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* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: The score by Music/RichardStone is positively oozing with gothic atmosphere mixed with southern charm, but [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3f0fArm71-0 "A Witch In the Woods"]] is a particular standout that perfectly sets up the overall feel of the film.

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* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: The score by Music/RichardStone Richard Stone is positively oozing with gothic atmosphere mixed with southern charm, but [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3f0fArm71-0 "A Witch In the Woods"]] is a particular standout that perfectly sets up the overall feel of the film.
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* FanNickname : Due to having a similar body structure (which is more than likely a byproduct of its [[Creator/StanWinston creator]]), several people affectionately call him "[[NinjaPirateZombieRobot Hillbilly]] [[Franchise/{{Alien}} Xenomorph]]"

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* FanNickname : Due to having a similar body structure (which is more than likely a byproduct of its [[Creator/StanWinston creator]]), several people affectionately call him "[[NinjaPirateZombieRobot Hillbilly]] [[Franchise/{{Alien}} Xenomorph]]"Xenomorph]]."
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* SlowPacedBeginning: a better example than most in the first film, showing Ed's journey to find Haggis, as well as a glimpse of Pumpkinhead in the intro, but Ed doesn't summon Pumpkinhead until 45 minutes into the movie.

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* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: The score by Music/RichardStone is positively oozing with gothic atmosphere mixed with southern charm, but [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3f0fArm71-0 A Witch In the Woods]] is a particular standout that perfectly sets up the overall feel of the film.

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* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: The score by Music/RichardStone is positively oozing with gothic atmosphere mixed with southern charm, but [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3f0fArm71-0 A "A Witch In the Woods]] Woods"]] is a particular standout that perfectly sets up the overall feel of the film.



* {{Sequelitis}}: [[Film/PumpkinheadIIBloodWings The second film, ''Blood Wings'']] ignored the first and was [[SoBadItsGood hilariously terrible]]. The next two sequels, however, while nowhere near the first one's quality, were a bit better and at least had something to do with the original.

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* {{Sequelitis}}: [[Film/PumpkinheadIIBloodWings The second film, ''Blood Wings'']] ''[[Film/PumpkinheadIIBloodWings Blood Wings]]'' ignored the first and was [[SoBadItsGood hilariously terrible]]. The next two sequels, however, while nowhere near the first one's quality, were a bit better and at least had something to do with the original.



* WhatAnIdiot: Joel in the first movie. One would think that someone on parole for drunk driving would want to keep alcohol and motorized vehicles as far away from each other as possible, but he's seen being intoxicated while driving his car and then even more intoxicated when he wants to drive his dirtbike, which results in him injuring a child. And then he decides to prevent any of his "[[WithFriendsLikeThese friends]]" from calling for medical aid by any means necessary, because apparently drunkenly hitting a child [[SarcasmMode is far worse]] than hit-and-run, vehicular manslaughter, kidnapping, torture, physical assault, destruction of private property (the cabin where he cut the phone lines was a rental), AND disobeying parole. Yes, there's TruthInTelevision, but even when it happens in real life, the people who do so are idiots.
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* WhatAnIdiot: Joel in the first movie. One would think that someone on parole for drunk driving would want to keep alcohol and motorized vehicles as far away from each other as possible, but he's seen being intoxicated while driving his car and then even more intoxicated when he wants to drive his dirtbike, which results in him injuring a child. And then he decides to prevent any of his "[[WithFriendsLikeThese friends]]" from calling for medical aid by any means necessary, because apparently drunkenly hitting a child [[SarcasmMode is far worse]] than hit-and-run, vehicular manslaughter, kidnapping, torture, physical assault, destruction of private property (the cabin where he cut the phone lines was a rental), AND disobeying parole. Yes, there's TruthInTelevision, but even when it happens in real life, the people who do so are idiots.
%%* TheWoobie: Ed Harley.Harley.

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* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: The score by Richard Stone is positively oozing with gothic atmosphere mixed with southern charm, but [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3f0fArm71-0 A Witch In the Woods]] is a particular standout that perfectly sets up the overall feel of the film.

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* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: The score by Richard Stone Music/RichardStone is positively oozing with gothic atmosphere mixed with southern charm, but [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3f0fArm71-0 A Witch In the Woods]] is a particular standout that perfectly sets up the overall feel of the film.
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* WhatAnIdiot: Joel in the first movie. One would think that someone on parole for drunk driving would want to keep alcohol and motorized 0vehicles as far away from each other as possible, but he's seen being intoxicated while driving his car and then even more intoxicated when he wants to drive his dirtbike, which results in him injuring a child. And then he decides to prevent any of his "[[WithFriendsLikeThese friends]]" from calling for medical aid by any means necessary, because apparently drunkenly hitting a child [[SarcasmMode is far worse]] than hit-and-run, vehicular manslaughter, kidnapping, torture, physical assault, destruction of private property (the cabin where he cut the phone lines was a rental), AND disobeying parole. Yes, there's TruthInTelevision, but even when it happens in real life, the people who do so are idiots.

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* WhatAnIdiot: Joel in the first movie. One would think that someone on parole for drunk driving would want to keep alcohol and motorized 0vehicles vehicles as far away from each other as possible, but he's seen being intoxicated while driving his car and then even more intoxicated when he wants to drive his dirtbike, which results in him injuring a child. And then he decides to prevent any of his "[[WithFriendsLikeThese friends]]" from calling for medical aid by any means necessary, because apparently drunkenly hitting a child [[SarcasmMode is far worse]] than hit-and-run, vehicular manslaughter, kidnapping, torture, physical assault, destruction of private property (the cabin where he cut the phone lines was a rental), AND disobeying parole. Yes, there's TruthInTelevision, but even when it happens in real life, the people who do so are idiots.
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* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: The score by Richard Stone is positively oozing with gothic atmosphere mixed with a southern bell charm, but [[https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jsy2h3ZDtHY A Witch In the Woods]] is a particular standout that perfectly sets up the overall feel of the film.

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* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: The score by Richard Stone is positively oozing with gothic atmosphere mixed with a southern bell charm, but [[https://m.[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsy2h3ZDtHY com/watch?v=3f0fArm71-0 A Witch In the Woods]] is a particular standout that perfectly sets up the overall feel of the film.
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* {{Anvilicious}}: In an example of Administrivia/TropesAreTools, Vengeance can corrupt even the best of men, as Ed Harley’s journey beautifully illustrates.

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* {{Anvilicious}}: In an example of Administrivia/TropesAreTools, Vengeance vengeance can corrupt even the best of men, as Ed Harley’s journey beautifully illustrates.



* WhatAnIdiot: Joel in the first movie. One would think that someone on parole for drunk driving would want to keep alcohol and motorized vehicles as far away from each other as possible, but he's seen being intoxicated while driving his car and then even more intoxicated when he wants to drive his dirtbike, which results in him injuring a child. And then he decides to prevent any of his "[[WithFriendsLikeThese friends]]" from calling for medical aid by any means necessary, because apparently drunkenly hitting a child [[SarcasmMode is far worse]] than hit-and-run, vehicular manslaughter, kidnapping, torture, physical assault, destruction of private property (the cabin where he cut the phone lines was a rental), AND disobeying parole. Yes, there's TruthInTelevision, but even when it happens in real life, the people who do so are idiots.

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* WhatAnIdiot: Joel in the first movie. One would think that someone on parole for drunk driving would want to keep alcohol and motorized vehicles 0vehicles as far away from each other as possible, but he's seen being intoxicated while driving his car and then even more intoxicated when he wants to drive his dirtbike, which results in him injuring a child. And then he decides to prevent any of his "[[WithFriendsLikeThese friends]]" from calling for medical aid by any means necessary, because apparently drunkenly hitting a child [[SarcasmMode is far worse]] than hit-and-run, vehicular manslaughter, kidnapping, torture, physical assault, destruction of private property (the cabin where he cut the phone lines was a rental), AND disobeying parole. Yes, there's TruthInTelevision, but even when it happens in real life, the people who do so are idiots.

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* {{Anvilicious}}: In an example of Administrivia/TropesAreTools, Vengeance can corrupt even the best of men, as Ed Harley’s journey beautifully illustrates.



* SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped: Vengeance can corrupt even the best of men, as Ed Harley’s journey beautifully illustrates.
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** Steve's relationship with his son.

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** Steve's Ed's relationship with his son.
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* SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped: Vengeance can corrupt even the best of men, as Ed Harley’s journey beautifully illustrates.
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** Bunt telling his sister Hessie that he's going out to look for Pumpkinhead and her saying to be careful.
** Steve's relationship with his son.
** The fact that except for Joel the campers are concerned about what happened and hopeful Billy is ok, with Steve even staying to help him.
** Tracy defending Jimmy Joe from his siblings teasing him with the Pumpkinhead chant at Ed's fruit stand.
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* WhatAnIdiot: Joel in the first movie. One would think that someone on parole for drunk driving would want to keep alcohol and motorized vehicles as far away from each other as possible, but he's seen being intoxicated while driving his car and then even more intoxicated when he wants to drive his ATV, which results in him injuring a child. And then he decides to prevent any of his "[[WithFriendsLikeThese friends]]" from calling for medical aid by any means necessary, because apparently drunkenly hitting a child [[SarcasmMode is far worse]] than hit-and-run, vehicular manslaughter, kidnapping, torture, physical assault, destruction of private property (the cabin where he cut the phone lines was a rental), AND disobeying parole. Yes, there's TruthInTelevision, but even when it happens in real life, the people who do so are idiots.

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* WhatAnIdiot: Joel in the first movie. One would think that someone on parole for drunk driving would want to keep alcohol and motorized vehicles as far away from each other as possible, but he's seen being intoxicated while driving his car and then even more intoxicated when he wants to drive his ATV, dirtbike, which results in him injuring a child. And then he decides to prevent any of his "[[WithFriendsLikeThese friends]]" from calling for medical aid by any means necessary, because apparently drunkenly hitting a child [[SarcasmMode is far worse]] than hit-and-run, vehicular manslaughter, kidnapping, torture, physical assault, destruction of private property (the cabin where he cut the phone lines was a rental), AND disobeying parole. Yes, there's TruthInTelevision, but even when it happens in real life, the people who do so are idiots.
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** Joel is one of the only of the kids who can be adequately described as a JerkassVictim. After all causing an accident is one thing but deliberately abandoning the victim, ''a little boy'', to save your skin and sabotage your friends' attempts to help and even strike one of the them is another.

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** Joel is one of the only of the kids who can be adequately described as a JerkassVictim. After all causing an accident is one thing but deliberately abandoning the victim, ''a little boy'', to save your skin and sabotage your friends' attempts to help by knocking one out and even strike one of the them ''locking both in a closet'' is another.something else.
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* SugarWiki/VisualEffectsOfAwesome: Pumpkinhead itself in the first film.

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* SugarWiki/VisualEffectsOfAwesome: Pumpkinhead itself in the first film.film, along with the {{Synchronization}} of Ed Harley in a few scenes.
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* {{Sequelitis}}: [[Film/PumpkinheadIIBloodWings The second film]] ignored the first and was [[SoBadItsGood hilariously terrible]]. The next two sequels, however, while nowhere near the first one's quality, were a bit better and at least had something to do with the original.

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* {{Sequelitis}}: [[Film/PumpkinheadIIBloodWings The second film]] film, ''Blood Wings'']] ignored the first and was [[SoBadItsGood hilariously terrible]]. The next two sequels, however, while nowhere near the first one's quality, were a bit better and at least had something to do with the original.
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* {{Sequelitis}}: The second film, ''Blood Wings'', ignored the first and was terrible. The next two sequels, however, while nowhere near the first one's quality, were a bit better and at least had something to do with the original.

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* {{Sequelitis}}: [[Film/PumpkinheadIIBloodWings The second film, ''Blood Wings'', film]] ignored the first and was terrible.[[SoBadItsGood hilariously terrible]]. The next two sequels, however, while nowhere near the first one's quality, were a bit better and at least had something to do with the original.
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* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: The score by Richard Stone is positively oozing with gothic atmosphere mixed with a southern bell charm., but [[https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jsy2h3ZDtHY A Witch In the Woods]] is a particular standout that perfectly sets up the overall feel of the film.

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* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: The score by Richard Stone is positively oozing with gothic atmosphere mixed with a southern bell charm., charm, but [[https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jsy2h3ZDtHY A Witch In the Woods]] is a particular standout that perfectly sets up the overall feel of the film.
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* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: [[https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jsy2h3ZDtHY The opening track]] is positively oozing with gothic atmosphere mixed with a southern bell charm. And it perfectly sets up the overall feel of the film.

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* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: The score by Richard Stone is positively oozing with gothic atmosphere mixed with a southern bell charm., but [[https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jsy2h3ZDtHY The opening track]] A Witch In the Woods]] is positively oozing with gothic atmosphere mixed with a southern bell charm. And it particular standout that perfectly sets up the overall feel of the film.
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* VindicatedByHistory: At the time of its release, the film was largely forgotten with overall mixed to mediocre reviews. Nowadays it’s seen highly by the horror community as one the most quintessential horror films of the 80’s.

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* VindicatedByHistory: At the time of its release, the film was largely forgotten with overall mixed to mediocre reviews. Nowadays it’s seen Nowadays, ''[=Pumpkinhead=]'' is viewed very highly by the horror community as one the most quintessential horror films of the 80’s.
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* VindicatedByHistory: At the time of its release, the film was largely forgotten with overall mixed to mediocre reviews. Nowadays it’s seen highly by the horror community as one the most quintessential horror films of the 80’s.
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* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: [[https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jsy2h3ZDtHY The opening track]] is positively oozing with gothic atmosphere mixed with a southern bell charm. And it perfectly sets up the overall feel of the film.
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* WhatAnIdiot : Joel in the first movie. One would think that someone on parole for drunk driving would want to keep alcohol and motorized vehicles as far away from each other as possible, but he's seen being intoxicated while driving his car and then even more intoxicated when he wants to drive his ATV, which results in him injuring a child. And then he decides to prevent any of his "[[WithFriendsLikeThese friends]]" from calling for medical aide by any means necessary, because apparently drunkenly hitting a child [[SarcasmMode is far worse]] than hit-and-run, vehicular manslaughter, kidnapping, torture, physical assault, destruction of private property (the cabin where he cut the phone lines was a rental), AND disobeying parole. Yes, there's TruthInTelevision , but even when it happens in real life, the people who do so are idiots.

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* WhatAnIdiot : WhatAnIdiot: Joel in the first movie. One would think that someone on parole for drunk driving would want to keep alcohol and motorized vehicles as far away from each other as possible, but he's seen being intoxicated while driving his car and then even more intoxicated when he wants to drive his ATV, which results in him injuring a child. And then he decides to prevent any of his "[[WithFriendsLikeThese friends]]" from calling for medical aide aid by any means necessary, because apparently drunkenly hitting a child [[SarcasmMode is far worse]] than hit-and-run, vehicular manslaughter, kidnapping, torture, physical assault, destruction of private property (the cabin where he cut the phone lines was a rental), AND disobeying parole. Yes, there's TruthInTelevision , TruthInTelevision, but even when it happens in real life, the people who do so are idiots.
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* VisualEffectsOfAwesome: Pumpkinhead itself in the first film.

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* MoralEventHorizon: Haggis usually warns the would-be avengers that they're about to cross it. [[spoiler: And she knows that she has crossed it long ago, as when Harley says "Goddamn you" her answer is a cynical smile and the retort ''He already has''.]]

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Haggis usually warns the would-be avengers that they're about to cross it. [[spoiler: And she knows that she has crossed it long ago, as when Harley says "Goddamn you" her answer is a cynical smile and the retort ''He already has''.]]
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* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: [[http://youtu.be/iaf9C4lPgAw "Just Like You"]] from ''Pumpkinhead II: Blood Wings'', performed by Roger Clinton, who plays Mayor Bubba.



* IdiotPlot: Much of the plot of ''Blood Wings'' is set off by Danny killing Tommy's mother for no reason and then summoning Pumpkinhead for, again, no reason.



* {{Narm}}: Along with the aforementioned IdiotPlot, this is one of the biggest problems with ''Blood Wings''.



* {{Squick}}: The implication in ''Blood Wings'' that [[TheGrotesque Tommy]] was the result of Pumpkinhead having... relations with a woman.
** There are two possibilities for how this happened, both of which are [[BuffySpeak squicky]]. The first is that Tommy's mother was [[NightmareFetishist attracted to Pumpkinhead]] for some reason and somehow had sex with him. The other is the [[FridgeHorror horrifying implication]] that Pumpkinhead [[RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil raped a human woman]] and Tommy was a ChildByRape.

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* ConspicuousCG: ''Ashes to Ashes'' suffered from it. ''Blood Feud'' remedied that slightly.
* ContinuitySnarl: ''Blood Wings'' has very little to do with the first one, retconning the Witch and Pumpkinhead's backstory. The later sequels simply ignore ''Blood Wings'' and tie themselves to the original.



* FanNickname : Due to having a similar body structure (which is more than likely a byproduct of its [[Creator/StanWinston creator]]), several people affectionately call him "[[Main/NinjaPirateZombieRobot Hillbilly]] [[Franchise/{{Alien}} Xenomorph]]"

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* FanNickname : Due to having a similar body structure (which is more than likely a byproduct of its [[Creator/StanWinston creator]]), several people affectionately call him "[[Main/NinjaPirateZombieRobot "[[NinjaPirateZombieRobot Hillbilly]] [[Franchise/{{Alien}} Xenomorph]]"



* WhatAnIdiot : Joel in the first movie. One would think that someone on parole for drunk driving would want to keep alcohol and motorized vehicles as far away from each other as possible, but he's seen being intoxicated while driving his car and then even more intoxicated when he wants to drive his ATV, which results in him injuring a child. And then he decides to prevent any of his "[[Main/WithFriendsLikeThese friends]]" from calling for medical aide by any means necessary, because apparently drunkenly hitting a child [[Main/SarcasmMode is far worse]] than hit-and-run, vehicular manslaughter, kidnapping, torture, physical assault, destruction of private property (the cabin where he cut the phone lines was a rental), AND disobeying parole. Yes, there's TruthInTelevision , but even when it happens in real life, the people who do so are idiots.
* TheWoobie: Ed Harley.
** WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds: Tragic as he is, Harley effectively murders several innocent people.

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* WhatAnIdiot : Joel in the first movie. One would think that someone on parole for drunk driving would want to keep alcohol and motorized vehicles as far away from each other as possible, but he's seen being intoxicated while driving his car and then even more intoxicated when he wants to drive his ATV, which results in him injuring a child. And then he decides to prevent any of his "[[Main/WithFriendsLikeThese "[[WithFriendsLikeThese friends]]" from calling for medical aide by any means necessary, because apparently drunkenly hitting a child [[Main/SarcasmMode [[SarcasmMode is far worse]] than hit-and-run, vehicular manslaughter, kidnapping, torture, physical assault, destruction of private property (the cabin where he cut the phone lines was a rental), AND disobeying parole. Yes, there's TruthInTelevision , but even when it happens in real life, the people who do so are idiots.
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** WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds: Tragic as he is, Harley effectively murders several innocent people.
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* {{Sequelitis}}: The second film, ''Blood Wings'', ignored the first and was terrible. The next two sequels, however, were subversions.

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* {{Sequelitis}}: The second film, ''Blood Wings'', ignored the first and was terrible. The next two sequels, however, while nowhere near the first one's quality, were subversions.a bit better and at least had something to do with the original.



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** Maggie's death is also rather hard to stomach, as she was completely innocent, tried desperately to stop Billy Harley from getting in the way of the bikes, and has a total emotional breakdown after he is hit. She is not spared a bit of wrath from Pumpkinhead, and even has a cross carved into her forehead simply because she's a religious person, possibly making Pumpkinhead the most petty JerkAss demon around.

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