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* {{Narm}}: Some people find [[spoiler: Holly Jones' motivation for kidnapping and killing children]] to be kind of...lame. Granted, [[spoiler: losing a child]] can definitely [[SanitySlippage make someone go insane]]—for crying out loud, ''that’s literally what’s happening to Dover''—but [[spoiler: her]] calling it a [[spoiler: “[[RageAgainstTheHeavens war on God]]”]] sounds a little melodramatic for such a dark movie.
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** Due to the movie centering on a protagonist's obsession with the disappearance of a loved one[[spoiler: and having said protagonist confront the BigBad, drink a drugged beverage and end up buried underground with little to no hope of survival by the movie's end]], some have called it a much better remake of ''Film/TheVanishing'' than the ''actual'' American remake of ''The Vanishing''.
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** Due to the movie centering on a protagonist's obsession with the disappearance of a loved one[[spoiler: and having said protagonist confront the BigBad, drinking a drugged beverage and ending up buried underground with little to no hope of survival]], some have called it a much better remake of ''Film/TheVanishing'' than the ''actual'' American remake of ''The Vanishing''.
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This movie is known for being quite disturbing, and some people that one element more than others
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* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: This movie is ''overwhelmingly'' depressing. Our [[DesignatedHero supposed hero]] is a brutal {{Deconstruction}} of [[PapaWolf vigilante fathers]] who spends the entire movie torturing [[spoiler: a man who's eventually revealed to be innocent and plagued by immense psychological damage undoubtedly ''worsened'' by the things Keller puts him through]]. And even though the movie ends on a surprisingly [[BittersweetEnding bittersweet note]], there's still [[EsotericHappyEnding so much that's keeping it from being a truly happy ending]], such as the trauma plaguing Keller's family as well as [[spoiler: the inevitable jail time he will face if he ever makes it out of that hole]]. However, this is slightly downplayed by the [[AdultFear realism behind Keller's motivations]], Loki's genuine dedication to helping the Dover family, and [[spoiler: Alex being reunited with his family in the end]].
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* SpiritualLicensee: This is most likely the closest thing to a successful movie adaptation of ''VideoGame/HeavyRain'' that will ever be made.
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** Along with ''Film/{{Logan}}'', this movie is also probably the closest we'll ever get to see Hugh Jackman as a live-action [[VideoGame/TheLastOfUs Joel]].
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Heard a lot of criticism about that one element. Other than that, fantastic movie
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* SugarWiki/CrowningMusicOfAwesome: The film's minimalist score by Jóhann Jóhannsson quite haunting, especially [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uEuT9Jx7OI The Candlelight Vigil]].
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** Also, [[spoiler: the maze pendent]] pretty much tells you who the culprit is but you won't realize it on a first time viewing.
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* TheWoobie: [[spoiler:Alex, especially when it's revealed that he was actually innocent (or at least not fully aware) of the kidnapping, and yet gets brutally tortured for it. Then at the end it's revealed that he was actually kidnapped when he was really young.]]
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* AwardSnub: There was a lot of hype for the film to be a big contender at the Oscars, especially in the acting category, but only wound up with a nomination for Roger Deakins' [[SceneryPorn cinematography]].
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* AwardSnub: There was a lot of hype for the film to be a big contender at the Oscars, especially in the acting category, but only wound up with a nomination for Roger Deakins' [[SceneryPorn cinematography]]. Which it lost. Hell, Hugh Jackman didn't get a nomination ''anywhere'' for his performance.
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** One could argue that what Keller does to [[spoiler:Alex]] qualifies, even if [[WellIntentionedExtremist he did it to find he girls]]. Franklin certainly seems to think so in-universe.
* RewatchBonus: "They didn't cry until I left them". [[spoiler: On a second watch it becomes clear that Alex was ''trying'' to tell Keller where the girls were, he just couldn't put it into words because of his disability.]]
** Also, [[spoiler: the maze pendent]] pretty much tells you who the culprit is but you won't realize it on a first time viewing.
* RewatchBonus: "They didn't cry until I left them". [[spoiler: On a second watch it becomes clear that Alex was ''trying'' to tell Keller where the girls were, he just couldn't put it into words because of his disability.]]
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* TheWoobie: [[spoiler:Alex, especially when it's revealed that he was actually innocent (or at least not fully aware) of the kidnapping, and yet gets brutally tortured for it. Then at the end it's revealed that he was actually kidnapped when he was really young.]]
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* CompleteMonster: [[spoiler: More like compete Monsters. Holly Jones and her husband whom decided to wage a personal war against God and doing so by kidnapping and killing countless number of children during their marriage together. All so the parents can [[TortureAlwaysWorks do something extreme like Keller]], or at the very least, [[RageAgainstTheHeavens blame and lose their faith in God.]]]]
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* CompleteMonster: [[spoiler: More like compete Monsters. Holly Jones and her husband whom decided to wage a personal war against God and doing so by kidnapping and killing countless number of children during their marriage together. All so the parents can [[TortureAlwaysWorks do something extreme like Keller]], or at the very least, [[RageAgainstTheHeavens blame and lose their faith in God.]]]]
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: Is Keller a psychopath using his own paranoia to justify his torture of [[spoiler:Alex]] or is he just a desperate man going too far to save his kid?
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* JerkassWoobie: Keller does some pretty horrible things to [[spoiler:Alex]] and even starts taking up drinking, but the man is just desperate to find his kid.
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* SugarWiki/CrowningMusicOfAwesome: The film's minimalist score by Jóhann Jóhannsson quite haunting, especially [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uEuT9Jx7OI The Candlelight Vigil]].
* MoralEventHorizon: [[spoiler:Holly]] crossed it a ''long'' time ago when it is revealed that [[spoiler:she and her husband were behind the kidnappings and murders of the kids]].
* MoralEventHorizon: [[spoiler:Holly]] crossed it a ''long'' time ago when it is revealed that [[spoiler:she and her husband were behind the kidnappings and murders of the kids]].
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* [[HeyItsThatGuy Hey, It's That Guy!]]: Bob Taylor is played by David Dastmalchian, who played Thomas Schiff in ''TheDarkKnight'', the paranoid schizophrenic 'hired' by the Joker to assist in the chaos at the commissioner's funeral. (He's the guy Dent nearly shoots in the alley.) If you recognized him and thought "there's our bad guy," [[spoiler:you were right... well, almost.]]
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* [[HeyItsThatGuy Hey, It's That Guy!]]: Bob Taylor is played by David Dastmalchian, who played Thomas Schiff in ''TheDarkKnight'', the paranoid schizophrenic 'hired' by the Joker to assist in the chaos at the commissioner's funeral. (He's the guy Dent nearly shoots in the alley.) If you recognized him and thought "there's our bad guy," [[spoiler:you were right--almost.]]right... well, almost.]]
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* CreepyAwesome: A musical version. The movie takes the uplifting gospel song "Put Your Hand in the Hand" and makes it ''incredibly'' creepy.
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