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** Whether to refer to songs by their name or their "genre". The latter seems to be falling out of style as ''Lapistoria'' onwards no longer assigns genres to new songs.
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* ViewerGenderConfusion: A number of fans have had to ask whether Timer is a guy or a girl. His DetachedSleeves, ZettaiRyouiki, and CrossPlaying certainly doesn't help.

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* ViewerGenderConfusion: A number of fans have had to ask whether Timer is a guy or a girl. His DetachedSleeves, ZettaiRyouiki, and CrossPlaying certainly doesn't help.help.
** More recently, Toa. He's Nia's brother but dresses in an outfit almost identical to hers, with DetachedSleeves and ZettaiRyouiki just like Timer.

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* TheDanza: Venus is based off of Bemani musicians DJ YOSHITAKA and Sota Fujimori, who use the alias "Venus" when collaborating together for songs.



* TheDanza: Venus is based off of Bemani musicians DJ YOSHITAKA and Sota Fujimori, who use the alias "Venus" when collaborating together for songs.
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* MostAnnoyingSound: The tutorial that runs during the AttractMode of ''Sunny Park'', unless the cabinet's attract mode sound setting is set to off.
--> "THREE TWO ONE PUUUUUUSH!"
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* TheDanza: Venus is based off of Bemani musicians DJ YOSHITAKA and Sota Fujimori, who use the alias "Venus" when collaborating together for songs.

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* PeripheryDemographic -- According to ThatOtherWiki, ''pop'n'' was originally intended to be played by couples on dates.

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* PeripheryDemographic -- PeripheryDemographic:
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According to ThatOtherWiki, ''pop'n'' was originally intended to be played by couples on dates.dates.
** In a more relevant example, most players are adults or at least teenagers.
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** ItsEasySoItSucks: Then when the scoring system was made easier for ''Lapistoria''[[note]]previously, the Cool-Great-Good-Bad scoring ratio was 10:5:1:0; as of ''Lapistoria'' it is now 10:7:4:0[[/note]], players were very, ''very'' unhappy.

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** ItsEasySoItSucks: Then when the scoring system was made easier for ''Lapistoria''[[note]]previously, the Cool-Great-Good-Bad scoring ratio was 10:5:1:0; as of ''Lapistoria'' it is now 10:7:4:0[[/note]], players were very, ''very'' unhappy. This isn't even a BrokenBase anymore because MOST players are complaining about it.
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This isn\'t even a Broken Base at this point, the majority dislike it.


*** Gameplay-wise, ''Lapistoria''[='=]s new scoring ratios have caused a good degree of turmoil; some hail it as making the game more accessible, others believe ItsEasySoItSucks.
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*** Gameplay-wise, ''Lapistoria''[='=]s new scoring ratios have caused a good degree of turmoil; some hail it as making the game more accessible, others believe ItsEasySoItSucks.
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** ItsEasySoItSucks: Then when the scoring system was made easier for ''Lapistoria''[[note]]previously, the Cool-Great-Good-Bad scoring ratio was 10:5:1:0; as of ''Lapistoria'' it is now 10:7:4:0[[/note]], players were very, ''very'' unhappy.

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* BrokenBase: ''pop'n music Lapistoria''[='=]s new art style. Some enjoy it, others feel it's [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks just not the same]] as the same style used in previous games.

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* BrokenBase: BrokenBase:
** The game's cutesy art style is a major point of contention [[AmericansHateTingle amongst Western players]].
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''pop'n music Lapistoria''[='=]s new art style. Some enjoy it, others feel it's [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks just not the same]] as the same style used in previous games.
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* BrokenBase: ''pop'n music Lapistoria''[='=]s new art style. Some enjoy it, others feel it's [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks just not the same]] as the same style used in previous games.
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** The song [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-cqpyog22A Space Dog]], [[LyricalDissonance which sounds happy and cheery at first]], [[RealitySubtext until you realize the song parallels Laika]]...
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* ItsHardSoItSucks: Beginning with ''pop'n music 20 fantasia'', the COOL judgement is forced in Normal mode. This has led to even higher-end players complaining, as having [=COOLs=] enabled means that a performance that otherwise nets a near-perfect score with COOL off can become a measly 50,000-60,000 point[[note]]The max score is 100,000[[/note]] play when COOL is enabled.

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* ItsHardSoItSucks: Beginning with ''pop'n music 20 fantasia'', the COOL judgement is forced in Normal mode. This has led to even higher-end players complaining, as having [=COOLs=] [=COOL=] enabled means that a performance that otherwise nets a near-perfect score with COOL off can become a measly 50,000-60,000 point[[note]]The points[[note]]The max score is 100,000[[/note]] play when COOL is enabled.
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* AwesomeMusic: [[AwesomeMusic/PopnMusic Here]].
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** If you're used to "FLOWER" giving you a five-note hold at the ''{{beatmania}} IIDX 13 [=DistorteD=]'' {{Homage}} part in ''[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDaE8h-ggis&t=1m32s IIDX]]'' and in ''[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nkkUmKIsIg&t=1m35s REFLEC BEAT]]'', watch out! Its higher-level charts [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNSVGHqxIvQ&t=1m41s convert the holds]] into [[ThatOneAttack a scale pattern]]!

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** If you're used to "FLOWER" (Trance Core) giving you a five-note hold at the ''{{beatmania}} IIDX 13 [=DistorteD=]'' {{Homage}} part in ''[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDaE8h-ggis&t=1m32s IIDX]]'' and in ''[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nkkUmKIsIg&t=1m35s REFLEC BEAT]]'', watch out! Its higher-level charts [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNSVGHqxIvQ&t=1m41s convert the holds]] into [[ThatOneAttack a scale pattern]]!
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* NightmareFuel: [[MyNameIsQuestionMarks ?]]'s eye. His eye! HIS EYE!

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* NightmareFuel: [[MyNameIsQuestionMarks ?]]'s eye. His eye! HIS EYE!

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* ContestedSequel: ''pop'n music 20 fantasia'', which forces the COOL judgement in all non-Easy modes.


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* ItsHardSoItSucks: Beginning with ''pop'n music 20 fantasia'', the COOL judgement is forced in Normal mode. This has led to even higher-end players complaining, as having [=COOLs=] enabled means that a performance that otherwise nets a near-perfect score with COOL off can become a measly 50,000-60,000 point[[note]]The max score is 100,000[[/note]] play when COOL is enabled.
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* ContestedSequel: ''pop'n music 20 fantasia'', which forces the COOL judgement in all non-Easy modes.
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** If you're used to "FLOWER" giving you a five-note hold at the ''{{beatmania}} IIDX 13 [=DistorteD=]'' {{Homage}} part in ''[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDaE8h-ggis&t=1m32s IIDX]]'' and in ''[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nkkUmKIsIg&t=1m35s REFLEC BEAT]]'', watch out! Its higher-level charts [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNSVGHqxIvQ&t=1m41s convert the holds]] into [[ThatOneAttack a sixteenth-note scale pattern]]!

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** If you're used to "FLOWER" giving you a five-note hold at the ''{{beatmania}} IIDX 13 [=DistorteD=]'' {{Homage}} part in ''[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDaE8h-ggis&t=1m32s IIDX]]'' and in ''[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nkkUmKIsIg&t=1m35s REFLEC BEAT]]'', watch out! Its higher-level charts [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNSVGHqxIvQ&t=1m41s convert the holds]] into [[ThatOneAttack a sixteenth-note scale pattern]]!
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** If you're used to "FLOWER" giving you a five-note hold at the ''{{beatmania}} IIDX 13 [=DistorteD=]'' {{Homage}} part in ''[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDaE8h-ggis&t=1m32s IIDX]]'' and in ''[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nkkUmKIsIg&t=1m35s REFLEC BEAT]]'', watch out! Its higher-level charts [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNSVGHqxIvQ&t=1m42s convert the holds]] into [[ThatOneAttack a sixteenth-note scale pattern]]!

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** If you're used to "FLOWER" giving you a five-note hold at the ''{{beatmania}} IIDX 13 [=DistorteD=]'' {{Homage}} part in ''[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDaE8h-ggis&t=1m32s IIDX]]'' and in ''[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nkkUmKIsIg&t=1m35s REFLEC BEAT]]'', watch out! Its higher-level charts [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNSVGHqxIvQ&t=1m42s com/watch?v=yNSVGHqxIvQ&t=1m41s convert the holds]] into [[ThatOneAttack a sixteenth-note scale pattern]]!

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* StopHavingFunGuys -- Some higher-end players will berate you if you don't use Cho-Challenge mode.

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* StopHavingFunGuys -- Some higher-end players will berate you if you don't use Cho-Challenge mode.mode, or if you use [[{{Beatmania}} Beat-Pop]].


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** If you're used to "FLOWER" giving you a five-note hold at the ''{{beatmania}} IIDX 13 [=DistorteD=]'' {{Homage}} part in ''[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDaE8h-ggis&t=1m32s IIDX]]'' and in ''[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nkkUmKIsIg&t=1m35s REFLEC BEAT]]'', watch out! Its higher-level charts [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNSVGHqxIvQ&t=1m42s convert the holds]] into [[ThatOneAttack a sixteenth-note scale pattern]]!
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* SurpriseDifficulty -- Not convinced that a cute and cheerful game can be NintendoHard? [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GV3yVpPJvss] Here you go.]][[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GV3yVpPJvss Well, there's a reason why on Wikipedia, the article states that pop'n music has some of the hardest songs in any rhythm game.]]

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* SurpriseDifficulty -- Not convinced that a cute and cheerful game can be NintendoHard? [http://www.[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GV3yVpPJvss] com/watch?v=GV3yVpPJvss Here you go.]][[http://www.]] [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GV3yVpPJvss Well, there's a reason why on Wikipedia, the article states that pop'n music has some of the hardest songs in any rhythm game.]]
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* [[GratuitousEnglish IN MAI RAIFU]]

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* [[GratuitousEnglish GratuitousEnglish: IN MAI RAIFU]]RAIFU



* NightmareFuel:'''?''' (yes, [[MyNameIsQuestionMarks that is his name]]) His eye! HIS EYE!

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* NightmareFuel:'''?''' (yes, NightmareFuel: [[MyNameIsQuestionMarks that is his name]]) ?]]'s eye. His eye! HIS EYE!



** {{Shipping}}: '''Nyami and Mimi''' These two characters (especially [[EnsembleDarkhorse Nyami]],) are frequently coupled with other Pop'n characters, the most common ships being those with [[KingOfAllCosmos MZD]], or [[LesYay each-other]].

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** * {{Shipping}}: '''Nyami Nyami and Mimi''' These two characters (especially [[EnsembleDarkhorse Nyami]],) Mimi are frequently coupled with other Pop'n characters, the most common ships being those with [[KingOfAllCosmos MZD]], or [[LesYay each-other]].



* UglyCute: '''Ash'''
** '''Hoshi no Hito''' In purest form.
* TheWoobie: '''Smile''' In his fail animation, he sulks while Minit's comes up to him and pats him on the back.
** '''Minit''' She cries in her miss animation. If you're playing her song, you'll see it a lot.
* ViewerGenderConfusion: ''Smile'' A number of fans have had to ask whether he's a guy or a girl. His Detached Sleeves, Zettai Ryouiki, and Cross Playing certainly doesn't help.

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* UglyCute: '''Ash'''
Ash.
** '''Hoshi Hoshi no Hito''' Hito, In purest form.
* TheWoobie: '''Smile''' In his fail animation, he Timer sulks while Minit's comes up to him and pats him on the back.
** '''Minit''' She Minit's cries in her miss animation. If you're playing her song, you'll see it a lot.
* ViewerGenderConfusion: ''Smile'' A number of fans have had to ask whether he's Timer is a guy or a girl. His Detached Sleeves, Zettai Ryouiki, DetachedSleeves, ZettaiRyouiki, and Cross Playing CrossPlaying certainly doesn't help.
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** '''Hoshi no Hito''' In purest form

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** '''Hoshi no Hito''' In purest formform.
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** {{Shipping}}: '''Nyami and Mimi''' These two characters (especially [[EnsembleDarkhorse Nyami]],) are frequently coupled with other Pop'n characters, the most common ships being those with [[KingOfAllCosmos MZD]], or [[LesYay each-other]].
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* [[GratuitousEnglish IN MAI RAIFU]]
* MemeticMutation: [[GratuitousEnglish "NO MEGANE NO LIFE"]]
* NightmareFuel:'''?''' (yes, [[MyNameIsQuestionMarks that is his name]]) His eye! HIS EYE!


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* UglyCute: '''Ash'''
**'''Hoshi no Hito''' In purest form
* TheWoobie: '''Smile''' In his fail animation, he sulks while Minit's comes up to him and pats him on the back.
** '''Minit''' She cries in her miss animation. If you're playing her song, you'll see it a lot.
* ViewerGenderConfusion: ''Smile'' A number of fans have had to ask whether he's a guy or a girl. His Detached Sleeves, Zettai Ryouiki, and Cross Playing certainly doesn't help.
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* PeripheryDemographic -- According to ThatOtherWiki, ''pop'n'' was originally intended to be played by couples on dates.
* StopHavingFunGuys -- Some higher-end players will berate you if you don't use Cho-Challenge mode.



* TearJerker -- A song from ''Iroha'', [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PveA39_7NOY Shizuku]] was said to be so depressing that some players simply ''quit playing the song completely''. [[http://f6.aaa.livedoor.jp/~takanm/LYRICS/bemani_artist_album/kamikyoku_asaki/shizuku.htm (Lyrics here).]]

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* TearJerker -- A song from ''Iroha'', [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PveA39_7NOY Shizuku]] was said to be so depressing that some players simply ''quit playing the song completely''. [[http://f6.aaa.livedoor.jp/~takanm/LYRICS/bemani_artist_album/kamikyoku_asaki/shizuku.htm (Lyrics here).]]
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* SurpriseDifficulty -- Not convinced that a cute and cheerful game can be NintendoHard? [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3gfL8n5vlU&fmt=18 Here you go.]][[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83rsCAT-f2s Well, there's a reason why on Wikipedia, the article states that pop'n music has some of the hardest songs in any rhythm game.]]

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* SurpriseDifficulty -- Not convinced that a cute and cheerful game can be NintendoHard? [[http://www.[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3gfL8n5vlU&fmt=18 com/watch?v=GV3yVpPJvss] Here you go.]][[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83rsCAT-f2s com/watch?v=GV3yVpPJvss Well, there's a reason why on Wikipedia, the article states that pop'n music has some of the hardest songs in any rhythm game.]]

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