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** There seems to be new Persona designs. Like Shin Megami Tensei IV before, feelings are conflicted on it.
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* HarsherInHindsight: Literally everybody is happy, including Minato, Shinjiro, Ken, and Mitsuru. [[spoiler: Fast forward a few months and...]]
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** As excited as shadow fans are to see Ryoji and Teddie interact [[spoiler: Ryoji is not yet born due to the team not defeating the arcana shadows which leads to...]]
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** As excited as shadow fans are to see Ryoji and Teddie interact [[spoiler: Ryoji is not yet born due to the team not defeating having defeated the arcana shadows which leads to...yet.]]
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The P3 cast is drawn from a specfic part of their story, and the game itself is set in a place \"outside of time and space\" or the like. There is no indication that any time is passing in the \"real\" world.
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* FridgeHorror: If the P3/S.E.E.S. team is here instead of defeating the arcana shadows, it means that apathy syndrome has spread in their absence unless they are transported back to where they were prior at the end of the this game.
** Which means that '''if''' this story is '''not''' canon, [[spoiler: [[DoomedByCanon Shinjiro and Minato still die.]]]]
** Which means that '''if''' this story is '''not''' canon, [[spoiler: [[DoomedByCanon Shinjiro and Minato still die.]]]]
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** Which means that '''if''' this story is '''not''' canon, [[spoiler: [[DoomedByCanon Shinjiro and Minato '''still''' die.]]]]
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** Which means that '''if''' this story is '''not''' canon, [[spoiler: [[DoomedByCanon Shinjiro and Minato '''still''' still die.]]]]
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* FridgeHorror: If the p3 team is here instead of defeating the arcana shadows, it means that apathy syndrome has spread in their absence unless they are transported back to where they were prior at the end of the campaign.
** Which means that if this story is not canon, [[spoiler:DoomedByCanon Shinjiro and Minato still die.]]]]
** Which means that if this story is not canon, [[spoiler:DoomedByCanon Shinjiro and Minato still die.]]]]
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* FridgeHorror: If the p3 P3/S.E.E.S. team is here instead of defeating the arcana shadows, it means that apathy syndrome has spread in their absence unless they are transported back to where they were prior at the end of the campaign.this game.
** Which means thatif '''if''' this story is not '''not''' canon, [[spoiler:DoomedByCanon [[spoiler: [[DoomedByCanon Shinjiro and Minato still '''still''' die.]]]]
** Which means that
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** Which means that if this story is not canon, [[spoiler: DoomedByCanon Shinjiro and Minato still die.]]
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** Which means that if this story is not canon, [[spoiler: DoomedByCanon [[spoiler:DoomedByCanon Shinjiro and Minato still die.]] ]]]]
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* FridgeBrilliance: Aside from the stoic Zen, Aigis isn't smiling when she sees Teddie in the intro at [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXn3TLAw7Ek]] 2:20 is because she has not gone through her character development yet since the P3 cast came from before November, [[spoiler: before gaining her memories of why she was attached to Minato in the first place.]]
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* FridgeBrilliance: Aside from the stoic Zen, Aigis isn't smiling when she sees Teddie in the intro at [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXn3TLAw7Ek]] 2:20 is because she has not gone through her character development yet since the P3 cast came from before November, [[spoiler: before gaining her memories of why she was attached to Minato in the first place. And also losing her robotic characteristics due to being broken by Ryoji.]]
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** As excited as shadow fans are to see Ryoji and Teddie interact [[spoiler: Ryoji is not yet born due to the team not defeating the arcana shadows which leads to...]]
* FridgeHorror: If the p3 team is here instead of defeating the arcana shadows, it means that apathy syndrome has spread in their absence unless they are transported back to where they were prior at the end of the campaign.
** Which means that if this story is not canon, [[spoiler: DoomedByCanon Shinjiro and Minato still die.]]
* FridgeHorror: If the p3 team is here instead of defeating the arcana shadows, it means that apathy syndrome has spread in their absence unless they are transported back to where they were prior at the end of the campaign.
** Which means that if this story is not canon, [[spoiler: DoomedByCanon Shinjiro and Minato still die.]]
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* FridgeBrilliance: Aside from the stoic Zen, Aigis isn't smiling when she sees Teddie in the intro at [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXn3TLAw7Ek]] 2:20 is because she has not gone through her character development yet since the P3 cast came from before November, [[spoiler: Before gaining her memories of why she was attached to Minato in the first place.]]
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* FridgeBrilliance: Aside from the stoic Zen, Aigis isn't smiling when she sees Teddie in the intro at [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXn3TLAw7Ek]] 2:20 is because she has not gone through her character development yet since the P3 cast came from before November, [[spoiler: Before before gaining her memories of why she was attached to Minato in the first place.]]]]
**To add to this, she also seems to be shooting Teddie on sight in her character trailer whereas in Arena she was able to make judgment calls before attacking him.
**To add to this, she also seems to be shooting Teddie on sight in her character trailer whereas in Arena she was able to make judgment calls before attacking him.
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* FridgeBrilliance: Aside from the stoic Zen, Aigis isn't smiling when she sees Teddie in the intro at [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXn3TLAw7Ek]] 2:20 is because she has not gone through her character development yet since the P3 cast came from before October 4th, when [[spoiler:Shinjiro died]].
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* FridgeBrilliance: Aside from the stoic Zen, Aigis isn't smiling when she sees Teddie in the intro at [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXn3TLAw7Ek]] 2:20 is because she has not gone through her character development yet since the P3 cast came from before October 4th, when [[spoiler:Shinjiro died]].November, [[spoiler: Before gaining her memories of why she was attached to Minato in the first place.]]
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* FridgeBrilliance: Aside from the stoic Zen, Aigis isn't smiling when she sees Teddie in the intro at [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXn3TLAw7Ek]] 2:20 is because she has not gone through her character development yet since the P3 cast came from before October 4th.
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* FridgeBrilliance: Aside from the stoic Zen, Aigis isn't smiling when she sees Teddie in the intro at [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXn3TLAw7Ek]] 2:20 is because she has not gone through her character development yet since the P3 cast came from before October 4th.4th, when [[spoiler:Shinjiro died]].
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* FridgeBrilliance: Aside from the stoic Zen, Aigis isn't smiling when she sees Teddie in the intro at [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXn3TLAw7Ek]] 2:20 is because she has not gone through her character development yet since the P3 cast is stuck in this timeline BEFORE November.
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* FridgeBrilliance: Aside from the stoic Zen, Aigis isn't smiling when she sees Teddie in the intro at [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXn3TLAw7Ek]] 2:20 is because she has not gone through her character development yet since the P3 cast is stuck in this timeline BEFORE November.came from before October 4th.
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* FridgeBrilliance: Aside from the stoic Zen, Aigis isn't smiling when she sees Teddie in the intro at [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXn3TLAw7Ek]] 2:20 is because she has not gone through her character development yet since the P3 cast is stuck in this timeline BEFORE November.
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* BaseBreaker:
** After Atlus spent several weeks teasing a ''Persona'' related announcement, fans were not happy that this was the announcement & not ''VideoGame/{{Persona 5}}'', accusing Atlus of trolling... For a few minutes, before they realised it was merely the ''first'' announcement being made & ''Persona 5'' was announced anyway. Whilst the fans calmed down, several new arguments arose in its place.
** After Atlus spent several weeks teasing a ''Persona'' related announcement, fans were not happy that this was the announcement & not ''VideoGame/{{Persona 5}}'', accusing Atlus of trolling... For a few minutes, before they realised it was merely the ''first'' announcement being made & ''Persona 5'' was announced anyway. Whilst the fans calmed down, several new arguments arose in its place.
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* BaseBreaker:
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** After Atlus spent several weeks teasing a''Persona'' related ''Persona''-related announcement, fans were not happy that this was the announcement & not ''VideoGame/{{Persona 5}}'', accusing Atlus of trolling... For a few minutes, before they realised it was merely the ''first'' announcement being made & ''Persona 5'' was announced anyway. Whilst the fans calmed down, several new arguments arose in its place.
** After Atlus spent several weeks teasing a
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* FanDumb: After it was announced, several detractors accused it of being a parody/ comedic spinoff due to the super-deformed style. This despite the fact the first trailer was almost entirely action and plot.
** Additionally, many people are unaware of the Etrian Odyssey roots and dismiss it as a chibi spin-off.
** Additionally, many people are unaware of the Etrian Odyssey roots and dismiss it as a chibi spin-off.
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* FanDumb: After it was announced, several detractors accused it of being a parody/ comedic spinoff parody/comedic spin-off due to the super-deformed style. This despite the fact the first trailer was almost entirely action and plot.
** Additionally, many people are unaware of theEtrian Odyssey ''VideoGame/EtrianOdyssey'' roots and dismiss it as a chibi spin-off.
** Additionally, many people are unaware of the
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** After Atlus spent several weeks teasing a ''Persona'' related announcement, fans were not happy that this was the announcement & not ''VideoGame/{{Persona 5}}'', accusing Atlus of trolling... For a few minutes, before they realised it was merely the ''first'' announcement being made & ''Persona 5'' was announced anyway. Whilst the fans calmed down, several new arguments arose in it's place.
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** After Atlus spent several weeks teasing a ''Persona'' related announcement, fans were not happy that this was the announcement & not ''VideoGame/{{Persona 5}}'', accusing Atlus of trolling... For a few minutes, before they realised it was merely the ''first'' announcement being made & ''Persona 5'' was announced anyway. Whilst the fans calmed down, several new arguments arose in it's its place.
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** Additionally, many people are unaware of the Etrian Odyssey roots and dismiss it as a chibi spin-off.
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* FanDumb: After it was announced, several detractors accused it of being a parody/ comedic spinoff due to the super-deformed style. This despite the fact the first trailer was almost entirely action and plot.
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Natter.
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* NightmareFuel: The plastic surgeon Shadows that the coalition encounter in one story sequence could give '''''[[VideoGame/BioShock1 J.S. Steinman]]''''' a run for his money! Why else would ''Mitsuru'' of all people lose her composure and ''scream in terror?''
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* NightmareFuel: The [[DeadlyDoctor plastic surgeon Shadows Shadows]] that the coalition encounter in one story sequence could give '''''[[VideoGame/BioShock1 J.S. Steinman]]''''' a run for his money! Why else would ''Mitsuru'' of all people lose her composure and ''scream in terror?''
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This is little more than Wild Mass Guessing for now.
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* NightmareFuel: The plastic surgeon Shadows that the coalition encounter in one story sequence could give '''''[[VideoGame/BioShock1 J.S. Steinman]]''''' a run for his money! Why else would ''Mitsuru'' of all people lose her composure and ''scream in terror?''
* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: Some fans are pleased that Ken is back with Shinjiro, and hope that they [[spoiler: properly make amends, unlike the base game]].
* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: Some fans are pleased that Ken is back with Shinjiro, and hope that they [[spoiler: properly make amends, unlike the base game]].
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* NightmareFuel: The plastic surgeon Shadows that the coalition encounter in one story sequence could give '''''[[VideoGame/BioShock1 J.S. Steinman]]''''' a run for his money! Why else would ''Mitsuru'' of all people lose her composure and ''scream in terror?''
* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: Some fans are pleased that Ken is back with Shinjiro, and hope that they [[spoiler: properly make amends, unlike the base game]].terror?''
* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: Some fans are pleased that Ken is back with Shinjiro, and hope that they [[spoiler: properly make amends, unlike the base game]].
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* NightmareFuel: The plastic surgeon Shadows that the coalition encounter in one story sequence could give '''''[[VideoGame/BioShock1 J.S. Steinman]]''''' a run for his money! Why else would ''Mitsuru'' of all people lose her composure and ''scream in terror?''
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*** The 3DS getting a RPG title while the Vita is getting a dancing game
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** The ''ShinMegamiTensei'' fandom had a split following the Persona event, though the vitriol toward this title is less pronounced.pronounced.
* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: Some fans are pleased that Ken is back with Shinjiro, and hope that they [[spoiler: properly make amends, unlike the base game]].
* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: Some fans are pleased that Ken is back with Shinjiro, and hope that they [[spoiler: properly make amends, unlike the base game]].
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He is not. The few screenshots we have use a different name. Spelling.
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** After Atlus spent several weeks teasing a ''Persona'' related anouncement, announcement, fans were not happy that this was the anouncement announcement & not ''VideoGame/{{Persona 5}}'', accusing Atlus of trolling... For a few minutes, before they realised it was merely the ''first'' anouncement announcement being made & ''Persona 5'' was anounced announced anyway. Whilst the fans calmed down, several new arguments arose in it's place.
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** The Protagonist of ''Persona 3'' is being called Makoto Yuki, as per the movie adaptations. So in other words, the [[Anime/Persona4TheAnimation Yu Narukami]][=/=]''VideoGame/Persona4Arena'' argument all over again.
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** The ''Persona 3'' cast not including the Female Protagonist from ''Persona 3 Portable''.
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** The ''Persona 3'' cast not including the Female Protagonist from ''Persona 3 Portable''.Portable''.
** The ''ShinMegamiTensei'' fandom had a split following the Persona event, though the vitriol toward this title is less pronounced.
** The ''ShinMegamiTensei'' fandom had a split following the Persona event, though the vitriol toward this title is less pronounced.
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Natter.
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** The ''Persona 3'' cast not including the Female Protagonist from ''Persona 3 Portable''.
** Pretty much the ''entire'' Persona announcement event split the whole ''Shin Megami Tensei'' fandom.
** Pretty much the ''entire'' Persona announcement event split the whole ''Shin Megami Tensei'' fandom.
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** The ''Persona 3'' cast not including the Female Protagonist from ''Persona 3 Portable''.
** Pretty much the ''entire'' Persona announcement event split the whole ''Shin Megami Tensei'' fandom.Portable''.
** Pretty much the ''entire'' Persona announcement event split the whole ''Shin Megami Tensei'' fandom.
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** The ''Persona 3'' cast not including the Female Protagonist from ''Persona 3 Portable''.
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** The ''Persona 3'' cast not including the Female Protagonist from ''Persona 3 Portable''.Portable''.
** Pretty much the ''entire'' Persona announcement event split the whole ''Shin Megami Tensei'' fandom.
** Pretty much the ''entire'' Persona announcement event split the whole ''Shin Megami Tensei'' fandom.
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** Being [[VideoGame/Persona4Arena another crossover]] between ''VideoGame/{{Persona 3}}'' & ''VideoGame/{{Persona 4}}'' with no sign of the casts of ''VideoGame/{{Persona}}'' & the ''VideoGame{{Persona 2}}'' duology.
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** Being [[VideoGame/Persona4Arena another crossover]] between ''VideoGame/{{Persona 3}}'' & ''VideoGame/{{Persona 4}}'' with no sign of the casts of ''VideoGame/{{Persona}}'' & the ''VideoGame{{Persona ''VideoGame/{{Persona 2}}'' duology.
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**After Atlus spent several weeks teasing a ''Persona'' related anouncement, fans were not happy that this was the anouncement & not ''VideoGame/{{Persona 5}}'', accusing Atlus of trolling... For a few minutes, before they realised it was merely the ''first'' anouncement being made & ''Persona 5'' was anounced anyway. Whilst the fans calmed down, several new arguments arose in it's place.
**Being [[VideoGame/Persona4Arena another crossover]] between ''VideoGame/{{Persona 3}}'' & ''VideoGame/{{Persona 4}}'' with no sign of the casts of ''VideoGame/{{Persona}}'' & the ''VideoGame{{Persona 2}}'' duology.
** Being the first ''Persona'' game to not see a release on a PlayStation console.
** The change in art style.
** Being ''another'' spin-off of ''Persona 4''.
** Some [=3DS=] owners aren't happy that the much requested ''Persona [=3DS=]'' is a chibified crossover & not an UpdatedRerelease of one of the existing games.
** The subject of if the game's story is canon, and if it should be.
** The Protagonist of ''Persona 3'' is being called Makoto Yuki, as per the movie adaptations. So in other words, the [[Anime/Persona4TheAnimation Yu Narukami]][=/=]''VideoGame/Persona4Arena'' argument all over again.
** The ''Persona 3'' cast not including the Female Protagonist from ''Persona 3 Portable''.
**After Atlus spent several weeks teasing a ''Persona'' related anouncement, fans were not happy that this was the anouncement & not ''VideoGame/{{Persona 5}}'', accusing Atlus of trolling... For a few minutes, before they realised it was merely the ''first'' anouncement being made & ''Persona 5'' was anounced anyway. Whilst the fans calmed down, several new arguments arose in it's place.
**Being [[VideoGame/Persona4Arena another crossover]] between ''VideoGame/{{Persona 3}}'' & ''VideoGame/{{Persona 4}}'' with no sign of the casts of ''VideoGame/{{Persona}}'' & the ''VideoGame{{Persona 2}}'' duology.
** Being the first ''Persona'' game to not see a release on a PlayStation console.
** The change in art style.
** Being ''another'' spin-off of ''Persona 4''.
** Some [=3DS=] owners aren't happy that the much requested ''Persona [=3DS=]'' is a chibified crossover & not an UpdatedRerelease of one of the existing games.
** The subject of if the game's story is canon, and if it should be.
** The Protagonist of ''Persona 3'' is being called Makoto Yuki, as per the movie adaptations. So in other words, the [[Anime/Persona4TheAnimation Yu Narukami]][=/=]''VideoGame/Persona4Arena'' argument all over again.
** The ''Persona 3'' cast not including the Female Protagonist from ''Persona 3 Portable''.