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* UnintentionallySympathetic: Ebenezar may come off as in the wrong for his knee-jerk reflexive hatred of the White Court and the way he lectures Harry...but he ''does'' have good reason to hate the White Court, and given that they're a race of mind-benders who've enslaved and feasted on countless people for centuries, he's not wrong to worry about their influence on his grandson and great-granddaughter. All Harry can say in Thomas's defence is 'He's my friend, he's ''different,'' just trust me!' [[RightForTheWrongReasons Which, as he correctly notes, is what abuse victims always say.]] Additionally, the first time Ebenezar encountered Thomas the latter had just tried to rape and devour Molly Carpenter (albeit after having been tortured by the Naagloshi for several days) and Ebenezar got a good look at the aftermath of Lara Raith ''succeeding'' in raping and devouring her cousin Madeline; it only reinforced his opinion that the White Court are insatiable monsters who turn on their own kin if they're hungry enough.
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** Ebenezar may come off as in the wrong for his knee-jerk reflexive hatred of the White Court and the way he lectures Harry...but he ''does'' have good reason to hate the White Court, and given that they're a race of mind-benders who've enslaved and feasted on countless people for centuries, he's not wrong to worry about their influence on his grandson and great-granddaughter. All Harry can say in Thomas's defence is 'He's my friend, he's ''different,'' just trust me!' [[RightForTheWrongReasons Which, as he correctly notes, is what abuse victims always say.]] Additionally, the first time Ebenezar encountered Thomas the latter had just tried to rape and devour Molly Carpenter (albeit after having been tortured by the Naagloshi for several days) and Ebenezar got a good look at the aftermath of Lara Raith ''succeeding'' in raping and devouring her cousin Madeline; it only reinforced his opinion that the White Court are insatiable monsters who turn on their own kin if they're hungry enough.
** Ebenezar may come off as in the wrong for his knee-jerk reflexive hatred of the White Court and the way he lectures Harry...but he ''does'' have good reason to hate the White Court, and given that they're a race of mind-benders who've enslaved and feasted on countless people for centuries, he's not wrong to worry about their influence on his grandson and great-granddaughter. All Harry can say in Thomas's defence is 'He's my friend, he's ''different,'' just trust me!' [[RightForTheWrongReasons Which, as he correctly notes, is what abuse victims always say.]] Additionally, the first time Ebenezar encountered Thomas the latter had just tried to rape and devour Molly Carpenter (albeit after having been tortured by the Naagloshi for several days) and Ebenezar got a good look at the aftermath of Lara Raith ''succeeding'' in raping and devouring her cousin Madeline; it only reinforced his opinion that the White Court are insatiable monsters who turn on their own kin if they're hungry enough.
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** As for the lecturing, he's also not wrong that Harry has an impressive RoguesGallery, most of whom WouldHurtAChild to get to him. In fact, ''that's exactly what'' happened in ''Literature/SkinGame'', not two months previous, when Nicodemus tried to kill Maggie in order to get vengeance on Harry. And the next best thing happens later in this book, when the svartalfs try to take Maggie hostage after Thomas attacks and tries to assassinate Etri.
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** As for the lecturing, he's also not wrong that Harry has an impressive RoguesGallery, most of whom WouldHurtAChild to get to him. In fact, ''that's exactly what'' that's ''exactly'' what happened in ''Literature/SkinGame'', not two months previous, when Nicodemus tried to kill Maggie in order to get vengeance on Harry. And the next best thing happens later in this book, when the svartalfs try to take Maggie hostage after Thomas attacks and tries to assassinate Etri.
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* UnintentionallySympathetic: Ebenezar may come off as in the wrong for his knee-jerk reflexive hatred of the White Court and the way he lectures Harry...but he ''does'' have good reason to hate the White Court, and given that they're a race of mind-benders who've enslaved and feasted on countless people for centuries, he's not wrong to worry about their influence on his grandson and great-granddaughter. All Harry can say in Thomas's defence is 'He's my friend, he's ''different,'' just trust me!' [[RightForTheWrongReasons Which, as he correctly notes, is what abuse victims always say.]] Additionally, the first time Ebenezar met Thomas the latter had just tried to rape and devour Molly Carpenter (albeit after having been tortured by the Naagloshi for several days) and Ebenezar got a good look at the aftermath of Lara Raith ''succeeding'' in raping and devouring her cousin Madeline; it only added to his opinion that the White Court are insatiable monsters who turn on their own kin if they're hungry enough. As for the lecturing, he's also not wrong that Harry has an impressive RoguesGallery, most of whom WouldHurtAChild to get to him.
** In fact, ''exactly that'' happened in ''Literature/SkinGame'', not two months previous, when Nicodemus tried to kill Maggie in order to get vengeance on Harry. And the next best thing happens later in the book, when the svartalfs try to take Maggie hostage after Thomas attacks Etri.
** In fact, ''exactly that'' happened in ''Literature/SkinGame'', not two months previous, when Nicodemus tried to kill Maggie in order to get vengeance on Harry. And the next best thing happens later in the book, when the svartalfs try to take Maggie hostage after Thomas attacks Etri.
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* UnintentionallySympathetic: Ebenezar may come off as in the wrong for his knee-jerk reflexive hatred of the White Court and the way he lectures Harry...but he ''does'' have good reason to hate the White Court, and given that they're a race of mind-benders who've enslaved and feasted on countless people for centuries, he's not wrong to worry about their influence on his grandson and great-granddaughter. All Harry can say in Thomas's defence is 'He's my friend, he's ''different,'' just trust me!' [[RightForTheWrongReasons Which, as he correctly notes, is what abuse victims always say.]] Additionally, the first time Ebenezar met encountered Thomas the latter had just tried to rape and devour Molly Carpenter (albeit after having been tortured by the Naagloshi for several days) and Ebenezar got a good look at the aftermath of Lara Raith ''succeeding'' in raping and devouring her cousin Madeline; it only added to reinforced his opinion that the White Court are insatiable monsters who turn on their own kin if they're hungry enough. enough.
** As for the lecturing, he's also not wrong that Harry has an impressive RoguesGallery, most of whom WouldHurtAChild to get tohim.
**him. In fact, ''exactly that'' ''that's exactly what'' happened in ''Literature/SkinGame'', not two months previous, when Nicodemus tried to kill Maggie in order to get vengeance on Harry. And the next best thing happens later in the this book, when the svartalfs try to take Maggie hostage after Thomas attacks and tries to assassinate Etri.
** As for the lecturing, he's also not wrong that Harry has an impressive RoguesGallery, most of whom WouldHurtAChild to get to
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* UnintentionallySympathetic: Ebenezar may come off as in the wrong for his knee-jerk reflexive hatred of the White Court and the way he lectures Harry...but he ''does'' have good reason to hate the White Court, and given that they're a race of mind-benders who've enslaved and feasted on countless people for centuries, he's not wrong to worry about their influence on his grandson and great-granddaughter. All Harry can say in Thomas's defence is 'He's my friend, he's ''different,'' just trust me!' [[RightForTheWrongReasons Which, as he correctly notes, is what abuse victims always say.]] Additionally, the first time Ebenezar met Thomas the latter had just tried to rape and devour Molly Carpenter (albeit after having been tortured by the Naagloshi for several days) and Ebenezar got a good look at the aftermath of Lara Raith ''succeeding'' in raping and devouring her cousin Madeline; it only added to his opinion that the White Court are insatiable monsters who turn on their own kin if they're hungry enough. As for the lecturing, he's also not wrong that Harry has an impressive RoguesGallery, most of whom WouldHurtAChild to get to him.
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* UnintentionallySympathetic: Ebenezar may come off as in the wrong for his knee-jerk reflexive hatred of the White Court and the way he lectures Harry...but he ''does'' have good reason to hate the White Court, and given that they're a race of mind-benders who've enslaved and feasted on countless people for centuries, he's not wrong to worry about their influence on his grandson and great-granddaughter. All Harry can say in Thomas's defence is 'He's my friend, he's ''different,'' just trust me!' [[RightForTheWrongReasons Which, as he correctly notes, is what abuse victims always say.]] Additionally, the first time Ebenezar met Thomas the latter had just tried to rape and devour Molly Carpenter (albeit after having been tortured by the Naagloshi for several days) and Ebenezar got a good look at the aftermath of Lara Raith ''succeeding'' in raping and devouring her cousin Madeline; it only added to his opinion that the White Court are insatiable monsters who turn on their own kin if they're hungry enough. As for the lecturing, he's also not wrong that Harry has an impressive RoguesGallery, most of whom WouldHurtAChild to get to him.him.
** In fact, ''exactly that'' happened in ''Literature/SkinGame'', not two months previous, when Nicodemus tried to kill Maggie in order to get vengeance on Harry. And the next best thing happens later in the book, when the svartalfs try to take Maggie hostage after Thomas attacks Etri.
** In fact, ''exactly that'' happened in ''Literature/SkinGame'', not two months previous, when Nicodemus tried to kill Maggie in order to get vengeance on Harry. And the next best thing happens later in the book, when the svartalfs try to take Maggie hostage after Thomas attacks Etri.
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* UnintentionallySympathetic: Ebenezar may come off as in the wrong for his knee-jerk reflexive hatred of the White Court and the way he lectures Harry...but he ''does'' have good reason to hate the White Court, and given that they're a race of mind-benders who've enslaved and feasted on countless people for centuries, he's not wrong to worry about their influence on his grandson and great-granddaughter. All Harry can say in Thomas's defence is 'He's my friend, he's ''different,'' just trust me!' [[RightForTheWrongReasons Which, as he correctly notes, is what abuse victims always say.]] Additionally, the first time Ebenezar met Thomas the latter had just tried to rape and devour Molly Carpenter (albeit Thomas had been tortured by the Naagloshi for several days beforehand) and Ebenezar got a good look at the aftermath of Lara Raith ''succeeding'' in raping and devouring her cousin Madeline; it only added to his opinion that the White Court are insatiable monsters who turn on their own kin if they're hungry enough. As for the lecturing, he's also not wrong that Harry has an impressive RoguesGallery, most of whom WouldHurtAChild to get to him.
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* UnintentionallySympathetic: Ebenezar may come off as in the wrong for his knee-jerk reflexive hatred of the White Court and the way he lectures Harry...but he ''does'' have good reason to hate the White Court, and given that they're a race of mind-benders who've enslaved and feasted on countless people for centuries, he's not wrong to worry about their influence on his grandson and great-granddaughter. All Harry can say in Thomas's defence is 'He's my friend, he's ''different,'' just trust me!' [[RightForTheWrongReasons Which, as he correctly notes, is what abuse victims always say.]] Additionally, the first time Ebenezar met Thomas the latter had just tried to rape and devour Molly Carpenter (albeit Thomas had after having been tortured by the Naagloshi for several days beforehand) days) and Ebenezar got a good look at the aftermath of Lara Raith ''succeeding'' in raping and devouring her cousin Madeline; it only added to his opinion that the White Court are insatiable monsters who turn on their own kin if they're hungry enough. As for the lecturing, he's also not wrong that Harry has an impressive RoguesGallery, most of whom WouldHurtAChild to get to him.
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** Also, Harry's holding off Ebenezar for as long as he does is fairly impressive--but it becomes less so when it's realized that a) Ebenezar is clearly [[IAmNotLeftHanded holding back]] and b) Harry was able to maneuver him onto ice and then close the distance, where [[GeoEffects as the Winter Knight, he would have the advantage.]] Ebenezar would've creamed him in half the time otherwise.
* GeniusBonus: At one point, it's mentioned that Vadderung has a cane whose shadow looks three times longer than it actually is. Why? Because it's most likely Odin's spear Gungnir in disguise.
* GeniusBonus: At one point, it's mentioned that Vadderung has a cane whose shadow looks three times longer than it actually is. Why? Because it's most likely Odin's spear Gungnir in disguise.
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* UnintentionallySympathetic: Ebenezar may come off as in the wrong for his knee-jerk reflexive hatred of the White Court and the way he lectures Harry...but he ''does'' have good reason to hate the White Court, and given that they're a race of mind-benders who've enslaved and feasted on countless people for centuries, he's not wrong to worry about their influence on his grandson and great-granddaughter. All Harry can say in Thomas's defence is 'He's my friend, he's ''different,'' just trust me!' Additionally, the first time Ebenezar met Thomas the latter had just tried to rape and devour Molly Carpenter (albeit Thomas had been tortured by the Naagloshi for several days beforehand) and Ebenezar got a good look at the aftermath of Lara Raith ''succeeding'' in raping and devouring her cousin Madeline; it only added to his opinion that the White Court are insatiable monsters who turn on their own kin if they're hungry enough. As for the lecturing, he's also not wrong that Harry has an impressive RoguesGallery, most of whom WouldHurtAChild to get to him.
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* UnintentionallySympathetic: Ebenezar may come off as in the wrong for his knee-jerk reflexive hatred of the White Court and the way he lectures Harry...but he ''does'' have good reason to hate the White Court, and given that they're a race of mind-benders who've enslaved and feasted on countless people for centuries, he's not wrong to worry about their influence on his grandson and great-granddaughter. All Harry can say in Thomas's defence is 'He's my friend, he's ''different,'' just trust me!' [[RightForTheWrongReasons Which, as he correctly notes, is what abuse victims always say.]] Additionally, the first time Ebenezar met Thomas the latter had just tried to rape and devour Molly Carpenter (albeit Thomas had been tortured by the Naagloshi for several days beforehand) and Ebenezar got a good look at the aftermath of Lara Raith ''succeeding'' in raping and devouring her cousin Madeline; it only added to his opinion that the White Court are insatiable monsters who turn on their own kin if they're hungry enough. As for the lecturing, he's also not wrong that Harry has an impressive RoguesGallery, most of whom WouldHurtAChild to get to him.
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* UnintentionallySympathetic: Ebenezar may come off as in the wrong for his knee-jerk reflexive hatred of the White Court and the way he lectures Harry...but he ''does'' have good reason to hate the White Court, and given that they're a race of mind-benders who've enslaved and feasted on countless people for centuries, he's not wrong to worry about their influence on his grandson and great-granddaughter. Additionally, the first time Ebenezar met Thomas the latter had just tried to rape and devour Molly Carpenter (albeit Thomas had been tortured by the Naagloshi for several days beforehand) and Ebenezar got a good look at the aftermath of Lara Raith ''succeeding'' in raping and devouring her cousin Madeline; it only added to his opinion that the White Court are insatiable monsters who turn on their own kin if they're hungry enough. As for the lecturing, he's also not wrong that Harry has an impressive RoguesGallery, most of whom WouldHurtAChild to get to him.
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* UnintentionallySympathetic: Ebenezar may come off as in the wrong for his knee-jerk reflexive hatred of the White Court and the way he lectures Harry...but he ''does'' have good reason to hate the White Court, and given that they're a race of mind-benders who've enslaved and feasted on countless people for centuries, he's not wrong to worry about their influence on his grandson and great-granddaughter. All Harry can say in Thomas's defence is 'He's my friend, he's ''different,'' just trust me!' Additionally, the first time Ebenezar met Thomas the latter had just tried to rape and devour Molly Carpenter (albeit Thomas had been tortured by the Naagloshi for several days beforehand) and Ebenezar got a good look at the aftermath of Lara Raith ''succeeding'' in raping and devouring her cousin Madeline; it only added to his opinion that the White Court are insatiable monsters who turn on their own kin if they're hungry enough. As for the lecturing, he's also not wrong that Harry has an impressive RoguesGallery, most of whom WouldHurtAChild to get to him.
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* UnintentionallySympathetic: Ebenezar may come off as in the wrong for his knee-jerk reflexive hatred of the White Court and the way he lectures Harry...but he ''does'' have good reason to hate the White Court, and given that they're a race of mind-benders who've enslaved countless people for centuries, he's not wrong to worry about their influence on his grandson and great-granddaughter. Additionally, the first time Ebenezar met Thomas the latter had just tried to rape and eat Molly Carpenter (albeit Thomas had been tortured by the Naagloshi for several days beforehand) and Ebenezar got a good look at the aftermath of Lara Raith ''actually'' raping and eating her cousin Madeline; it only added to his opinion that the White Court are insatiable monsters who turn on their own kin if they're hungry enough. As for the lecturing, he's also not wrong that Harry has an impressive RoguesGallery, most of whom WouldHurtAChild to get to him.
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* UnintentionallySympathetic: Ebenezar may come off as in the wrong for his knee-jerk reflexive hatred of the White Court and the way he lectures Harry...but he ''does'' have good reason to hate the White Court, and given that they're a race of mind-benders who've enslaved and feasted on countless people for centuries, he's not wrong to worry about their influence on his grandson and great-granddaughter. Additionally, the first time Ebenezar met Thomas the latter had just tried to rape and eat devour Molly Carpenter (albeit Thomas had been tortured by the Naagloshi for several days beforehand) and Ebenezar got a good look at the aftermath of Lara Raith ''actually'' ''succeeding'' in raping and eating devouring her cousin Madeline; it only added to his opinion that the White Court are insatiable monsters who turn on their own kin if they're hungry enough. As for the lecturing, he's also not wrong that Harry has an impressive RoguesGallery, most of whom WouldHurtAChild to get to him.
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* UnintentionallySympathetic: Ebenezar may come off as in the wrong for his knee-jerk reflexive hatred of the White Court and the way he lectures Harry...but he ''does'' have good reason to hate the White Court, and given that they're a race of mind-benders who've enslaved countless people for centuries, he's not wrong to worry about their influence on his grandson and great-granddaughter. Additionally, the first time Ebenezar met Thomas the latter had tried to rape and eat Molly Carpenter (albeit Thomas had been tortured by the Naagloshi for days beforehand) and Ebenezar got a good look at the aftermath of Lara Raith ''actually'' raping and eating her cousin Madeline; it only added to his belief that the White Court are insatiable monsters. As for the lecturing, he's also not wrong that Harry has an impressive RoguesGallery, most of whom WouldHurtAChild to get to him.
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* UnintentionallySympathetic: Ebenezar may come off as in the wrong for his knee-jerk reflexive hatred of the White Court and the way he lectures Harry...but he ''does'' have good reason to hate the White Court, and given that they're a race of mind-benders who've enslaved countless people for centuries, he's not wrong to worry about their influence on his grandson and great-granddaughter. Additionally, the first time Ebenezar met Thomas the latter had just tried to rape and eat Molly Carpenter (albeit Thomas had been tortured by the Naagloshi for several days beforehand) and Ebenezar got a good look at the aftermath of Lara Raith ''actually'' raping and eating her cousin Madeline; it only added to his belief opinion that the White Court are insatiable monsters.monsters who turn on their own kin if they're hungry enough. As for the lecturing, he's also not wrong that Harry has an impressive RoguesGallery, most of whom WouldHurtAChild to get to him.
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* UnintentionallySympathetic: Ebenezar may come off as in the wrong for his knee-jerk reflexive hatred of the White Court and the way he lectures Harry...but he ''does'' have good reason to hate the White Court, and given that they're a race of mind-benders who've enslaved countless people for centuries, he's not wrong to worry about their influence on his grandson and great-granddaughter. Additionally, the first time Ebenezar met Thomas the latter had tried to rape and eat Molly Carpenter (albeit Thomas had been tortured by the Naagloshi for days beforehand) and Ebenezar got a good look at the aftermath of Lara ''actually'' raping and eating her cousin Madeline; it only adds to his belief that the White Court are insatiable monsters. As for the lecturing, he's also not wrong that Harry has an impressive RoguesGallery, most of whom WouldHurtAChild to get to him.
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* UnintentionallySympathetic: Ebenezar may come off as in the wrong for his knee-jerk reflexive hatred of the White Court and the way he lectures Harry...but he ''does'' have good reason to hate the White Court, and given that they're a race of mind-benders who've enslaved countless people for centuries, he's not wrong to worry about their influence on his grandson and great-granddaughter. Additionally, the first time Ebenezar met Thomas the latter had tried to rape and eat Molly Carpenter (albeit Thomas had been tortured by the Naagloshi for days beforehand) and Ebenezar got a good look at the aftermath of Lara Raith ''actually'' raping and eating her cousin Madeline; it only adds added to his belief that the White Court are insatiable monsters. As for the lecturing, he's also not wrong that Harry has an impressive RoguesGallery, most of whom WouldHurtAChild to get to him.
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* UnintentionallySympathetic: Ebenezar may come off as in the wrong for his knee-jerk reflexive hatred of the White Court and the way he lectures Harry...but he ''does'' have good reason to hate the White Court, and given that they're a race of mind-benders, mind-benders who've enslaved countless people for centuries, he's not wrong to worry about their influence on his grandson. grandson and great-granddaughter. Additionally, the first time Ebenezar met Thomas the latter had tried to rape and eat Molly Carpenter (albeit Thomas had been tortured by the Naagloshi for days beforehand) and Ebenezar got a good look at the aftermath of Lara ''actually'' raping and eating her cousin Madeline; it only adds to his belief that the White Court are insatiable monsters. As for the lecturing, he's also not wrong that Harry has an impressive RoguesGallery, most of whom WouldHurtAChild to get to him.
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* HilariousInHindsight: This bit of dialogue from ''Cold Days'' is either this trope or FunnyAneurysmMoment after this book:
-->'''Harry:''' What happens if I go back in time to kill my grandfather?
-->'''Vadderung:''' He beats you senseless, I expect.
-->'''Harry:''' What happens if I go back in time to kill my grandfather?
-->'''Vadderung:''' He beats you senseless, I expect.
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: The peace talks themselves. [[spoiler: We never actually get to see any negotiation because Ethniu the Titan shows up and proceeds to dramatically destroy the Unseelie Accords. This could have been a fascinating opportunity to flesh out the Fomori, as well as have Harry have to approach a situation with more diplomacy than he usually does. Additionally, while many long-running characters return for the talks, Harry doesn't get to interact with many of them.]]
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: The peace talks themselves. [[spoiler: We never actually get to see any negotiation because Ethniu the Titan shows up and proceeds to dramatically destroy the Unseelie Accords. This could have been a fascinating opportunity to flesh out the Fomori, as well as have Harry have to approach a situation with more diplomacy than he usually does. Additionally, while many long-running characters return for the talks, Harry doesn't get to interact with many of them.]]]]
* UnintentionallySympathetic: Ebenezar may come off as in the wrong for his knee-jerk reflexive hatred of the White Court and the way he lectures Harry...but he ''does'' have good reason to hate the White Court, and given that they're a race of mind-benders, he's not wrong to worry about their influence on his grandson. Additionally, he's not wrong that Harry has an impressive RoguesGallery, most of whom WouldHurtAChild to get to him.
* UnintentionallySympathetic: Ebenezar may come off as in the wrong for his knee-jerk reflexive hatred of the White Court and the way he lectures Harry...but he ''does'' have good reason to hate the White Court, and given that they're a race of mind-benders, he's not wrong to worry about their influence on his grandson. Additionally, he's not wrong that Harry has an impressive RoguesGallery, most of whom WouldHurtAChild to get to him.
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* {{Narm}}: The repeated descriptions of the White Knight mantle reacting to Lara's presence in every scene Lara's in.
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* FridgeBrilliance: In the Dresden Files short story, "Curses," said that the 'Billy Goat Curse' which prevented the Chicago Cubs from winning the World Series was cast by a fey king named Gwynn ap Nudd. Since that story's publication, the Cubs finally went on to win the World Series (in the real world)[[spoiler:. And indeed, in this story, we learn that Gwynn ap Nudd was killed offscreen by the Fomor at some point... which would explain why the curse is no longer functioning and the Cubs are able to win]].
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* LesYay: Freydis practically throws herself at Murphy, whose weak comeback isn't "I'm straight," it's "I'm Catholic."
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** Is Ebenezer engaged in KnightTemplar behavior combined with VanHelsingHateCrimes or is he ProperlyParanoid with the information that Harry gives him? [[spoiler: Was killing Harry's doppelganger a MoralEventHorizon or an accident, or both?]]
** Is Harry falling back into his old habits of keeping things from his allies? A lot of things would have been averted if he's just told Ebenezer upfront that [[spoiler: Thomas is his grandson.]] Alternatively, since Eb's reaction was [[spoiler: absolute revulsion and priming the spell that ended up killing doppelganger Harry]], Harry may also have read his mentor correctly. Not telling Ebenezar may also have been subconscious payback for Ebenezar allowing Harry to disappear into the foster system and never revealing their true relationship, which Harry mentions early on is a HUGE sticking point for him.
** Is Harry falling back into his old habits of keeping things from his allies? A lot of things would have been averted if he's just told Ebenezer upfront that [[spoiler: Thomas is his grandson.]] Alternatively, since Eb's reaction was [[spoiler: absolute revulsion and priming the spell that ended up killing doppelganger Harry]], Harry may also have read his mentor correctly. Not telling Ebenezar may also have been subconscious payback for Ebenezar allowing Harry to disappear into the foster system and never revealing their true relationship, which Harry mentions early on is a HUGE sticking point for him.
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** Is Ebenezer Ebenezar engaged in KnightTemplar behavior combined with VanHelsingHateCrimes or is he ProperlyParanoid with the information that Harry gives him? [[spoiler: Was killing Harry's doppelganger a MoralEventHorizon or an accident, or both?]]
** Is Harry falling back into his old habits of keeping things from his allies? A lot of things would have been averted if he's just toldEbenezer Ebenezar upfront that [[spoiler: Thomas is his grandson.]] Alternatively, since Eb's reaction was [[spoiler: absolute revulsion and priming the spell that ended up killing doppelganger Harry]], Harry may also have read his mentor correctly. Not telling Ebenezar may also have been subconscious payback for Ebenezar allowing Harry to disappear into the foster system and never revealing their true relationship, which Harry mentions early on is a HUGE sticking point for him.
** Is Harry falling back into his old habits of keeping things from his allies? A lot of things would have been averted if he's just told
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* IdiotPlot: So much conflict between Harry and Ebenezer could have been avoided if Harry had just told Ebenezer the truth from the start [[spoiler:about Thomas ''also'' being his grandson]]. On the other hand, given his reaction when Harry ''did'' tell him, perhaps it couldn't. Also telling, the last time they conflicted was over Maggie, which Ebenezer doesn't seem to have learned from.
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* IdiotPlot: So much conflict between Harry and Ebenezer Ebenezar could have been avoided if Harry had just told Ebenezer Ebenezar the truth from the start [[spoiler:about Thomas ''also'' being his grandson]]. On the other hand, given his reaction when Harry ''did'' tell him, perhaps it couldn't. Also telling, the last time they conflicted was over Maggie, which Ebenezer Ebenezar doesn't seem to have learned from.
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: The peace talks themselves. [[spoiler: We never actually get to see any negotiation because Ethniu the Titan shows up and proceeds to dramatically destroy the Unseelie Accords. This could have been a fascinating opportunity to flesh out the Formori.]]
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: The peace talks themselves. [[spoiler: We never actually get to see any negotiation because Ethniu the Titan shows up and proceeds to dramatically destroy the Unseelie Accords. This could have been a fascinating opportunity to flesh out the Formori.Fomori.]]
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* IdiotPlot: So much conflict between Harry and Ebenezer could have been avoided if Harry had just told Ebenezer the truth from the start [[spoiler:about Thomas ''also'' being his grandson]]. On the other hand, given his reaction when Harry ''did'' tell him, perhaps it couldn't.
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* IdiotPlot: So much conflict between Harry and Ebenezer could have been avoided if Harry had just told Ebenezer the truth from the start [[spoiler:about Thomas ''also'' being his grandson]]. On the other hand, given his reaction when Harry ''did'' tell him, perhaps it couldn't. Also telling, the last time they conflicted was over Maggie, which Ebenezer doesn't seem to have learned from.
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* IdiotPlot: So much conflict between Harry and Ebenezer could have been avoided if Harry had just told Ebenezer the truth from the start [[spoiler:about Thomas ''also'' being his grandson.]]
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* IdiotPlot: So much conflict between Harry and Ebenezer could have been avoided if Harry had just told Ebenezer the truth from the start [[spoiler:about Thomas ''also'' being his grandson.]] grandson]]. On the other hand, given his reaction when Harry ''did'' tell him, perhaps it couldn't.
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* ShipToShipCombat: Fans of Harry's other love interests like Molly Carpenter or Luccio are less than happy about [[spoiler: him finally getting with Karrin.]] Some have even expressed how much they prefer ''Lara Raith.''
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* ShipToShipCombat: Fans of Harry's other love interests like Molly Carpenter or Luccio are less than happy about [[spoiler: him finally getting with Karrin.]] Karrin]]. Some have even expressed how much they prefer ''Lara Raith.''
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How ? Thomas is clearly out of it mentally during this entire time.
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** So much conflict between Harry and Ebenezer could have been avoided if Harry had just told Ebenezer the truth from the start [[spoiler:about Thomas ''also'' being his grandson.]]
** Harry and Lara never actually bother to ask Thomas [[spoiler: why he did what he did or what he's trying to tell them about Justine.]]
** So much conflict between Harry and Ebenezer could have been avoided if Harry had just told Ebenezer the truth from the start [[spoiler:about Thomas ''also'' being his grandson.]]
** Harry and Lara never actually bother to ask Thomas [[spoiler: why he did what he did or what he's trying to tell them about Justine.]]
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* IdiotPlot:
**IdiotPlot: So much conflict between Harry and Ebenezer could have been avoided if Harry had just told Ebenezer the truth from the start [[spoiler:about Thomas ''also'' being his grandson.]]
** Harry and Lara never actually bother to ask Thomas [[spoiler: why he did what he did or what he's trying to tell them about Justine.]]]]
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** Harry and Lara never actually bother to ask Thomas [[spoiler: why he did what he did or what he's trying to tell them about Justine.]]
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** Is Ebenezer engaged in KnightTemplar behavior combined with VanHelsingHateCrimes or is he ProperlyParanoid with the information that Harry gives him? [[spoiler: Was killing Harry's doppelganger a MoralEventHorizon or an accident?]]
** Is Harry falling back into his old habits of keeping things from his allies? A lot of things would have been averted if he's just told Ebenezer upfront that [[spoiler: Thomas is his grandson.]] Alternatively, not telling Ebenezar may have been subconscious payback for Ebenezar allowing Harry to disappear into the foster system and never revealing their true relationship, which Harry mentions early on is a HUGE sticking point for him.
** Is Harry falling back into his old habits of keeping things from his allies? A lot of things would have been averted if he's just told Ebenezer upfront that [[spoiler: Thomas is his grandson.]] Alternatively, not telling Ebenezar may have been subconscious payback for Ebenezar allowing Harry to disappear into the foster system and never revealing their true relationship, which Harry mentions early on is a HUGE sticking point for him.
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** Is Ebenezer engaged in KnightTemplar behavior combined with VanHelsingHateCrimes or is he ProperlyParanoid with the information that Harry gives him? [[spoiler: Was killing Harry's doppelganger a MoralEventHorizon or an accident?]]
accident, or both?]]
** Is Harry falling back into his old habits of keeping things from his allies? A lot of things would have been averted if he's just told Ebenezer upfront that [[spoiler: Thomas is his grandson.]] Alternatively,not since Eb's reaction was [[spoiler: absolute revulsion and priming the spell that ended up killing doppelganger Harry]], Harry may also have read his mentor correctly. Not telling Ebenezar may also have been subconscious payback for Ebenezar allowing Harry to disappear into the foster system and never revealing their true relationship, which Harry mentions early on is a HUGE sticking point for him.
** Is Harry falling back into his old habits of keeping things from his allies? A lot of things would have been averted if he's just told Ebenezer upfront that [[spoiler: Thomas is his grandson.]] Alternatively,
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** Is Harry falling back into his old habits of keeping things from his allies? A lot of things would have been averted if he's just told Ebenezer upfront that [[spoiler: Thomas is his grandson.]]
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** Is Harry falling back into his old habits of keeping things from his allies? A lot of things would have been averted if he's just told Ebenezer upfront that [[spoiler: Thomas is his grandson.]]]] Alternatively, not telling Ebenezar may have been subconscious payback for Ebenezar allowing Harry to disappear into the foster system and never revealing their true relationship, which Harry mentions early on is a HUGE sticking point for him.
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** So much conflict between Harry and Ebenezer could have been avoided if Harry had just told Ebenezer the truth [[spoiler:about Thomas ''also'' being his grandson.]]
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** So much conflict between Harry and Ebenezer could have been avoided if Harry had just told Ebenezer the truth from the start [[spoiler:about Thomas ''also'' being his grandson.]]
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** So much conflict between Harry and Ebenezar could have been avoided if Harry had just told Ebenezer the truth [[spoiler:about Thomas ''also'' being his grandson.]]
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** So much conflict between Harry and Ebenezar Ebenezer could have been avoided if Harry had just told Ebenezer the truth [[spoiler:about Thomas ''also'' being his grandson.]]
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* IdiotPlot: So much conflict between Harry and Ebenezar could have been avoided if Harry had just told Ebenezer the truth [[spoiler:about Thomas ''also'' being his grandson.]]
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** So much conflict between Harry and Ebenezar could have been avoided if Harry had just told Ebenezer the truth [[spoiler:about Thomas ''also'' being his grandson.]] ]]
** Harry and Lara never actually bother to ask Thomas [[spoiler: why he did what he did or what he's trying to tell them about Justine.]]
** So much conflict between Harry and Ebenezar could have been avoided if Harry had just told Ebenezer the truth [[spoiler:about Thomas ''also'' being his grandson.
** Harry and Lara never actually bother to ask Thomas [[spoiler: why he did what he did or what he's trying to tell them about Justine.]]
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* BigLippedAlligatorMoment: [[AThreesomeIsHot Butters having threesomes with Andi and another woman.]] It comes out of nowhere, causes Harry to blink a few times, and Butters to get very defenesive before never being mentioned again.
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* BigLippedAlligatorMoment: [[AThreesomeIsHot Butters having threesomes with Andi and another woman.]] It comes out of nowhere, causes Harry to blink a few times, and Butters to get very defenesive defensive before never being mentioned again.
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation:
** Is Ebenezer engaged in KnightTemplar behavior combined with VanHelsingHateCrimes or is he ProperlyParanoid with the information that Harry gives him? [[spoiler: Was killing Harry's doppelganger a MoralEventHorizon or an accident?]]
** Is Harry falling back into his old habits of keeping things from his allies? A lot of things would have been averted if he's just told Ebenezer upfront that [[spoiler: Thomas is his grandson.]]
** Is Lara Raith really EvilCannotComprehendGood with Harry or is she so used to being manipulated and abusive that [[spoiler: she can't understand that he's not trying to leverage her when he puts Thomas in a prison cell that only he can open.]]
* BigLippedAlligatorMoment: [[AThreesomeIsHot Butters having threesomes with Andi and another woman.]] It comes out of nowhere, causes Harry to blink a few times, and Butters to get very defenesive before never being mentioned again.
* EvilIsSexy: Lara Raith gets an especially large amount of attention this book and oozes sex in every appearance.
* ShipTease: Lara Raith and Harry get this, surprisingly enough.
* ShipToShipCombat: Fans of Harry's other love interests like Molly Carpenter or Luccio are less than happy about [[spoiler: him finally getting with Karrin.]] Some have even expressed how much they prefer ''Lara Raith.''
* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: The peace talks themselves. [[spoiler: We never actually get to see any negotiation because Ethniu the Titan shows up and proceeds to dramatically destroy the Unseelie Accords. This could have been a fascinating opportunity to flesh out the Formori.]]
** Is Ebenezer engaged in KnightTemplar behavior combined with VanHelsingHateCrimes or is he ProperlyParanoid with the information that Harry gives him? [[spoiler: Was killing Harry's doppelganger a MoralEventHorizon or an accident?]]
** Is Harry falling back into his old habits of keeping things from his allies? A lot of things would have been averted if he's just told Ebenezer upfront that [[spoiler: Thomas is his grandson.]]
** Is Lara Raith really EvilCannotComprehendGood with Harry or is she so used to being manipulated and abusive that [[spoiler: she can't understand that he's not trying to leverage her when he puts Thomas in a prison cell that only he can open.]]
* BigLippedAlligatorMoment: [[AThreesomeIsHot Butters having threesomes with Andi and another woman.]] It comes out of nowhere, causes Harry to blink a few times, and Butters to get very defenesive before never being mentioned again.
* EvilIsSexy: Lara Raith gets an especially large amount of attention this book and oozes sex in every appearance.
* ShipTease: Lara Raith and Harry get this, surprisingly enough.
* ShipToShipCombat: Fans of Harry's other love interests like Molly Carpenter or Luccio are less than happy about [[spoiler: him finally getting with Karrin.]] Some have even expressed how much they prefer ''Lara Raith.''
* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: The peace talks themselves. [[spoiler: We never actually get to see any negotiation because Ethniu the Titan shows up and proceeds to dramatically destroy the Unseelie Accords. This could have been a fascinating opportunity to flesh out the Formori.]]
