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** There were several people who correctly predicted that the DNA test made by Suigetsu was flawed, as well as the explanation of it [[spoiler: that Karin was actually Sakura's midwife and that the umbilical cord used for the test actually belonged to Sarada]].
** Also, more than a few fans who remembered previous instances of it, quickly called the TrollingCreator theory on the whole affair.
** There were several people who correctly predicted that the DNA test made by Suigetsu was flawed, as well as the explanation of it [[spoiler: that Karin was actually Sakura's midwife and that the umbilical cord used for the test actually belonged to Sarada]].
** Also, more than a few fans who remembered previous instances of it, quickly called the TrollingCreator theory on the whole affair.
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* AuthorsSavingThrow: Gaiden aims this for the controversial Sasuke/Sakura pairing. Unfortunately whether it worked or [[StrangledByTheRedString not]] is up to [[BrokenBase readers]].
** The animated adaptation in ''Anime/{{Boruto}}'' makes it more clear that Sasuke cares about his family, along with making him a bit more expressive in general, quelling many thoughts that he's an aloof deadbeat.
** The animated adaptation in ''Anime/{{Boruto}}'' makes it more clear that Sasuke cares about his family, along with making him a bit more expressive in general, quelling many thoughts that he's an aloof deadbeat.
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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Sarada, The entire plot of Gaiden is her weird quest to find out if Sakura is her mother, It comes across as a very overblown case of TeenAngst, esepcially as most of it is unfounded and also, pointless in the end anyway.
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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Sarada, The entire plot of Gaiden is her weird quest to find out if Sakura is her mother, It comes across as a very overblown case of TeenAngst, teen angst, esepcially as most of it is unfounded and also, pointless in the end anyway.
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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Sarada, The entire plot of Gaiden is her weird quest to find out if Sakura is her mother, It comes across as a very overblown case of TeenAngst, esepcially as most of it is unfounded and also, pointless in the end anyway.
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** The animated adaptation in ''Anime/{{Boruto}}'' makes it more clear that Sasuke cares about his family, along with making him a bit more expressive in general, quelling many thoughts that he's an aloof deadbeat.
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* CharacterRerailment: Naruto's adulthood is seen this way by many fans. From his design to personality, even fans who stopped liked him during Part 2 accepted Hokage Naruto as one of the better characters of Gaiden.
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* CharacterRerailment: Naruto's adulthood is seen this way by many fans. From his design to personality, even fans who stopped liked liking him during Part 2 accepted Hokage Naruto as one of the better characters of Gaiden.
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It takes more than favoritism to be classified as a Creators Pet.
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* CreatorsPet: Kishimoto said in an interview that Chocho quickly became his staff's favorite character. That would explain why she was placed in every chapter, her one-note joke was allowed to go endlessly on, and why she received so much screentime while more popular characters were ignored.
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** Sarada is seen as either a whiny, SpotlightStealingSquad, or as the only likeable Uchiha ever.
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* FanonDiscontinuity: For large portion of Sasuke/Sakura fans, they were better without this Gaiden. The ending of the Gaiden seems to have won back many Sasuke/Sakura shippers, [[spoiler: but the way it portrays their family as a happy one despite how the Gaiden started is still not appreciated by a fair amount of the fans that see it as a really messed up family beneath the apparent happiness.]]
* GeniusBonus: During the DNA test if you look closely at the results, they show a 100% match, this was the first clue some people pointed out for questioning the validity of the test. Why? [[http://science.howstuffworks.com/life/genetic/dna-evidence5.htm Positive paternity/maternity tests never show more than a 50% match]] (half from the mother and half from the father), this also fits with the fact that[[spoiler: the umbilical cord was from Sarada, so Suigetsu was comparing 2 DNA samples from the same source]].
* GeniusBonus: During the DNA test if you look closely at the results, they show a 100% match, this was the first clue some people pointed out for questioning the validity of the test. Why? [[http://science.howstuffworks.com/life/genetic/dna-evidence5.htm Positive paternity/maternity tests never show more than a 50% match]] (half from the mother and half from the father), this also fits with the fact that[[spoiler: the umbilical cord was from Sarada, so Suigetsu was comparing 2 DNA samples from the same source]].
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* FanonDiscontinuity: For large portion of Sasuke/Sakura fans, they were better without this Gaiden. The ending of the Gaiden seems to have won back many Sasuke/Sakura shippers, [[spoiler: but [[spoiler:but the way it portrays their family as a happy one despite how the Gaiden started is still not appreciated by a fair amount of the fans that see it as a really messed up family beneath the apparent happiness.]]
* GeniusBonus: During the DNA test if you look closely at the results, they show a 100% match, this was the first clue some people pointed out for questioning the validity of the test. Why? [[http://science.howstuffworks.com/life/genetic/dna-evidence5.htm Positive paternity/maternity tests never show more than a 50% match]] (half from the mother and half from the father), this also fits with the factthat[[spoiler: the that [[spoiler:the umbilical cord was from Sarada, so Suigetsu was comparing 2 DNA samples from the same source]].
* GeniusBonus: During the DNA test if you look closely at the results, they show a 100% match, this was the first clue some people pointed out for questioning the validity of the test. Why? [[http://science.howstuffworks.com/life/genetic/dna-evidence5.htm Positive paternity/maternity tests never show more than a 50% match]] (half from the mother and half from the father), this also fits with the fact
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* ShipToShipCombat: If anything, ''Gaiden'' has kept the flames going. The biggest contendors are the [[spoiler: Sasuke/Karin]] and the [[spoiler: Sasuke/Sakura]] shippers, due to [[spoiler: when Karin is (supposedly) revealed as Sarada's biological mother rather than Sakura. It's then revealed that Karin is not actually Sarada's mother, but the one who helped Sakura give birth to her when they were traveling together. The reason the DNA test was positive was because the sample Suigetsu used was from Sarada's umbilical cord that Karin kept as a memento. Meaning that Sakura ''is'' her biological mother and that Karin was just meant to be a red herring. The two even say they are friends.]] Did this revelation quell the flames? No.
* TheUntwist: Thanks to Kishimoto's repeated offenses of TrollingCreator, it came as no surprise to the cynical part of the fanbase that [[spoiler: Sakura was Sarada's mother all along.]]
* TheUntwist: Thanks to Kishimoto's repeated offenses of TrollingCreator, it came as no surprise to the cynical part of the fanbase that [[spoiler: Sakura was Sarada's mother all along.]]
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* ShipToShipCombat: If anything, ''Gaiden'' has kept the flames going. The biggest contendors are the [[spoiler: Sasuke/Karin]] [[spoiler:Sasuke/Karin]] and the [[spoiler: Sasuke/Sakura]] [[spoiler:Sasuke/Sakura]] shippers, due to [[spoiler: when [[spoiler:when Karin is (supposedly) revealed as Sarada's biological mother rather than Sakura. It's then revealed that Karin is not actually Sarada's mother, but the one who helped Sakura give birth to her when they were traveling together. The reason the DNA test was positive was because the sample Suigetsu used was from Sarada's umbilical cord that Karin kept as a memento. Meaning that Sakura ''is'' her biological mother and that Karin was just meant to be a red herring. The two even say they are friends.]] Did this revelation quell the flames? No.
* TheUntwist: Thanks to Kishimoto's repeated offenses of TrollingCreator, it came as no surprise to the cynical part of the fanbase that[[spoiler: Sakura [[spoiler:Sakura was Sarada's mother all along.]]
* TheUntwist: Thanks to Kishimoto's repeated offenses of TrollingCreator, it came as no surprise to the cynical part of the fanbase that
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* GeniusBonus: During the DNA test if you look closely at the results, they show a 100% match, this was the first clue some people pointed out for questioning the validity of the test. Why? [[http://science.howstuffworks.com/life/genetic/dna-evidence5.htm Positive paternity/maternity tests never show more than a 50% match]] (half from the mother and half from the father), this fits with the fact that the umbilical cord was from Sarada so Suigetsu was comparing 2 DNA samples from the same source.
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* GeniusBonus: During the DNA test if you look closely at the results, they show a 100% match, this was the first clue some people pointed out for questioning the validity of the test. Why? [[http://science.howstuffworks.com/life/genetic/dna-evidence5.htm Positive paternity/maternity tests never show more than a 50% match]] (half from the mother and half from the father), this also fits with the fact that that[[spoiler: the umbilical cord was from Sarada Sarada, so Suigetsu was comparing 2 DNA samples from the same source.source]].
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* GeniusBonus: During the DNA test if you look closely at the results, they show a 100% match, this was the first clue some people pointed out for questioning the validity of the test. Why? [[http://science.howstuffworks.com/life/genetic/dna-evidence5.htm Positive paternity/maternity tests never show more than a 50% match]] (half from the mother and half from the father).
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* GeniusBonus: During the DNA test if you look closely at the results, they show a 100% match, this was the first clue some people pointed out for questioning the validity of the test. Why? [[http://science.howstuffworks.com/life/genetic/dna-evidence5.htm Positive paternity/maternity tests never show more than a 50% match]] (half from the mother and half from the father).father), this fits with the fact that the umbilical cord was from Sarada so Suigetsu was comparing 2 DNA samples from the same source.
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Scrappy needs to be hated a majority of the fandom. Do not put an example here just because you don't like the character
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* TheScrappy: Chocho, due to her ItsAllAboutMe attitude and that she [[SpotlightStealingSquad steals a lot of time]] from most of the next generation.
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* TheScrappy: Chocho, due to her ItsAllAboutMe attitude and that she [[SpotlightStealingSquad steals a lot of time]] from most of the next generation.
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* GeniusBonus: During the DNA test if you look closely at the results, they show a 100% match, this was the first clue some people pointed out for questioning the validity of the test. Why? Positive paternity tests never show more than a 50% match (half from the mother and half from the father).
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* GeniusBonus: During the DNA test if you look closely at the results, they show a 100% match, this was the first clue some people pointed out for questioning the validity of the test. Why? [[http://science.howstuffworks.com/life/genetic/dna-evidence5.htm Positive paternity paternity/maternity tests never show more than a 50% match match]] (half from the mother and half from the father).
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Putting it back as per discussion page
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* GeniusBonus: During the DNA test if you look closely at the results, they show a 100% match, this was the first clue some people pointed out for questioning the validity of the test. Why? Positive paternity tests never show more than a 50% match (half from the mother and half from the father).
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This entry works on the -complete assumption- that an author infamous for not doing his research, dropped asome obscure hint, on a manga with a guy with eyes sticking out of the back and top of his skull. Occam\'s. razor.
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* GeniusBonus: During the DNA test if you look closely at the results, they show a 100% match, this was the first clue some people pointed out for questioning the validity of the test. Why? Positive paternity tests never show more than a 50% match (half from the mother and half from the father).
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I\'ve put it back for the time being, I added an entry on the Discussion page explaining the rationale.
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* GeniusBonus: During the DNA test if you look closely at the results, they show a 100% match, this was the first clue some people pointed out for questioning the validity of the test. Why? Positive paternity tests never show more than a 50% match (half from the mother and half from the father).
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That makes no sense. The test was done perfectly; the mistake was in the assumption of the source of the umbilical cord. My point is, DNA testing tries to discover the 50% match between the child’s and the parent’s DNA profiles to prove or disprove the blood relationship. DNA parentage testing is considered to be 100% accurate. We don’t know if the 100% itself on screen refers in turn to a 100% match of that 50% tested. If the results were so inaccurate, I’d argue Suigetsu must have noticed the anomaly, given he was capable of running the complex test by himself. Lastly, Kishimoto has a noticeable track record Artistic License Biology in the past. Take it to the discussion page.
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* GeniusBonus: During the DNA test if you look closely at the results, they show a 100% match, this was the first clue some people pointed out for questioning the validity of the test. Why? Positive paternity tests never show more than a 50% match (half from the mother and half from the father).
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Umm no, how can it be 100% match with Sakura since it was compared to a swab from Sarada? The actual DNA test as a paternity one was flawed.
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* GeniusBonus: During the DNA test if you look closely at the results, they show a 100% match, this was the first clue some people pointed out for questioning the validity of the test. Why? Positive paternity tests never show more than a 50% match (half from the mother and half from the father).
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The test was still correct, just the sample was just from a different person, being a 100% match to Sakura\'s DNA instead of Karin.
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* GeniusBonus: During the DNA test if you look closely at the results, they show a 100% match, this was the first clue some people pointed out for questioning the validity of the test. Why? Positive paternity tests never show more than 50% match (half from the mother and half from the father).
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I don\'t think the trope fits when it was a deliberate Red Herring
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: The DrivingQuestion of the Gaiden was centered on who Sarada's mother was. Everything from Sakura dodging her questions on the matter to Sarada's resemblance to Karin seemed to be leading to the idea of Sasuke cheating on Sakura with Karin to conceive Sarada. Yet, it wasn't the case.
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: The DrivingQuestion of the Gaiden was centered on who Sarada's mother was. Everything from Sakura dodging her questions on the matter to Sarada's resemblance to Karin seemed to be leading to the idea of Sasuke cheating on Sakura with Karin to conceive Sarada. Yet, it wasn't the case.
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\"For some\" are Weasel Words. Scrappy needs to be hated a majority of the fandom
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* TheScrappy: Chocho for some, due to her [[ItsAllAboutMe self-centered attitude]] and [[SpotlightStealingSquad domination]] in the plot at the expense of many other characters.
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* TheScrappy: Chocho for some, due to her [[ItsAllAboutMe self-centered attitude]] and [[SpotlightStealingSquad domination]] in the plot at the expense of many other characters.
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It reviewed well and sold well, unless you have evidence to the contrary then using \"the majority\" of fans is myopic. Romantic Plot Tumor is still a misusage, there\'s not romantic subplot here. this usage is just \"complaining about pairings you don\'t like\"
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* BrokenBase: The Gaiden itself is seen this way. Majority of the fans consider it a money grabbing waste of time, from lack of focus on new generation to Uzumaki family and the resumed focus on Uchihas even after the happy ending. Sasu/Saku fans are also divided on gaiden; some fans accept any bone that's thrown to them while a great deal of shippers like to pretend it never happened.
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* BrokenBase: The Gaiden itself is seen this way. Majority of the Some fans consider it a money grabbing waste of time, from lack of focus on new generation to Uzumaki family and the resumed focus on Uchihas even after the happy ending. Sasu/Saku fans are also divided on gaiden; some fans accept any bone that's thrown to them while a great deal of shippers like to pretend it never happened.
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* RomanticPlotTumor: Sakura / Sasuke pairing is unarguably the most controversial out of pairings made canon. Gaiden aims to make it more accepted but it still backfires by the amount of drama, Sasuke's absence, lack of satisfying rewarding and rushed ending. Even some Sasu/Saku fans are disturbed by how things turned out.
