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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: Was Luna claiming Celestia has no power in the dream realm just a {{handwave}} to keep her her out of the story? Or was it just an excuse Luna made to avoid having to confront Celesta over the Tantabus and her role in it?
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** To be fair, she was actually Nightmare Moon for a ''lot'' longer than that. And probably caused a good deal of destruction before she was banished.
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** To be fair, she was actually Nightmare Moon for a ''lot'' longer than that. And probably caused a good deal of destruction before she was banished.
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* MemeticMutation: Rainbow's horror at the overly bright and happy "nightmare" the Tantabus puts her in has led to jokes that it reminds her of her "[[WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyG3 past life]]" and [[TakeThat that's what scared her]].
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* BizarroEpisode: This is an episode about a dream-warping monster who traps everypony in Ponyville in the same nightmare. The first half deserves a mention as it digs into the worst nightmares of the Mane Six.

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* BizarroEpisode: This is an episode about a dream-warping monster who traps everypony in Ponyville in the same nightmare. The first half deserves a mention as it digs into the worst nightmares of the Mane Six.Six, then the second half involves a completely out-there battle sequence including Big Mac undergoing a MagicalGirl TransformationSequence, Filthy Rich riding a giant wave of bits shooting money from his hooves, and a knightly Spike riding a giant Derpy into battle. Yeah, this episode gets ''weird''.
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* AssPull: The HandWave that Celestia has no power in the dream realm comes off as a ''really'' lazy way of [[DeusExitMachina keeping her from having a role in the story.]]
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* BizarroEpisode: This is an episode about a dream-warping monster who traps everypony in Ponyville in the same nightmare. The first half deserves a mention as it digs into the worst nightmares of the Mane Six.
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Repair Dont Respond, the Season 5 seemingly Jossed those expectations (Celestia is merely imprisoned on the moon, there's no signs of the Inferred Holocaust eternal night would cause).


** [[FridgeBrilliance In hindsight]], Nightmare Moon's plan was still pretty genocidal (and she did attack her sister with intent to kill). So to a degree, it's possible to see why Luna would have such a hard time forgiving herself.
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** [[FridgeBrilliance In hindsight]], Nightmare Moon's plan was still pretty genocidal (and she did attack her sister with intent to kill). So to a degree, it's possible to see why Luna would have such a hard time forgiving herself.
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** Ever since ''VideoGame/UnderTale'' was released, there had been immediate comparisons between the "Happy Flowers" and Flowey.

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** Ever since ''VideoGame/UnderTale'' ''VideoGame/{{Undertale}}'' was released, there had been immediate comparisons between the "Happy Flowers" and Flowey.
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** Ever since ''VideoGame/UnderTale'' was released, there had been immediate comparisons between the "Happy Flowers" and Flowey.
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** There's some debate over which is better: this episode, or the Nightmare Arc of the [=IDW=] comics, since both tackled Luna's insecurities which end up nearly bringing destruction to Equestria. The comic was more focused on the Nightmare Forces and Nightmare Rarity than Luna, yet it brought a face to Nightmare Moon and had Luna confronting her fear more directly. This episode has Luna in a more passive role for the climax that makes it feel more scaled down, but the focus was kept on Luna's character, and the Tantabus being a personification of her guilt rather than the force that made her Nightmare Moon adds to Luna's status as TheAtoner.

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** There's some debate over which is better: this episode, episode or the Nightmare Arc of the [=IDW=] comics, since both tackled Luna's insecurities which end up nearly bringing destruction to Equestria. The comic was more focused on the Nightmare Forces and Nightmare Rarity than Luna, yet it brought a face to Nightmare Moon and had Luna confronting her fear more directly. This episode has Luna in a more passive role for the climax that makes it feel more scaled down, but the focus was kept on Luna's character, and the Tantabus being a personification of her guilt rather than the force that made her Nightmare Moon adds to Luna's status as TheAtoner.
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** Was this a good episode that portrayed Luna finally forgiving herself in a well-done manner whilst adding some hilarious {{FandomNod}}s and showing that the background ponies can get in on the action just as well as the Mane Six? Or was it a badly done episode that portrayed Luna as a pony with [[HarmfulToMinors issues bordering on self-destruction]] that were far too quickly and unrealistically shunted under the rug?

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** Was this a good episode that portrayed Luna finally forgiving herself in a well-done manner whilst adding some hilarious {{FandomNod}}s {{Fandom Nod}}s and showing that the background ponies can get in on the action just as well as the Mane Six? Or was it a badly done episode that portrayed Luna as a pony with [[HarmfulToMinors issues bordering on self-destruction]] that were far too quickly and unrealistically shunted under the rug?



** Fluttershy referring to Nightmare!Angel Bunny as a "giant evil Angel" becomes ten times funnier when we find out in "Scare Master" that she likes the pony-equivalent to ''Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion''...which just so happens to dedicate some of its plot to killing giant evil monsters called "Angels".

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** Fluttershy referring to Nightmare!Angel Nightmare Angel Bunny as a "giant evil Angel" becomes ten times funnier when we find out in "Scare Master" that she likes the pony-equivalent to ''Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion''...which just so happens to dedicate some of its plot to killing giant evil monsters called "Angels".
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** Fluttershy referring to Nightmare!Angel Bunny as a "giant evil Angel" becomes ten times funnier when we find out in "Scare Master" that she likes the pony-equivalent to ''Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion''...which just so happens to dedicate some of its plot to killing giant evil monsters called "Angels".

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* {{Narm}}: Luna's constant guilt is mentioned so many times that it stops being sad and comes off as a RunningGag instead.

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* {{Wangst}}: [[http://sonikku001.deviantart.com/art/Past-Sins-551713735 This fan comic]] sums up why some felt Luna's guilt was excessive.
-->'''Luna''': I created the Tantabus to punish myself for everything that I had done as Nightmare Moon...\\
'''Twilight''': '''Princess Luna!''' [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS4E2PrincessTwilightSparklePart2 You were Nightmare Moon for like, an hour. You barely hurt anypony...]]\\
'''Luna''': '''Everything that I've done!'''
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* WhatAnIdiot: Pinkie Pie dreams of giving ice cream to the everypony in Ponyville, therefore dragging the entire town into fighting Tantabus.

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* WhatAnIdiot: Pinkie Pie dreams of giving ice cream to the everypony in Ponyville, therefore dragging the entire town into fighting Tantabus.
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* WhatAnIdiot: Pinkie Pie dreams of giving ice cream to the everypony in Ponyville, therefore dragging the entire town into fighting Tantabus.
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** It could also be seen as this for the fans who disliked "Luna Eclipsed" for allowing Luna to let her past define her, instead of leaving it behind, in order to gain friends. See HarsherInHindsight below.

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** It could also be seen as this for the fans who disliked "Luna Eclipsed" for allowing Luna to let her past define her, instead of leaving it behind, in order to gain friends. See HarsherInHindsight below.
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** It's a little hard to take the defeat of the Tantabus seriously when it turns around and gives a goofy-looking "wait, what?" expression to the camera just before disappearing.
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* HeartwarmingInHindsight: [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS5E18BrotherhoovesSocial It's later revealed]] that a very young Apple Bloom loved to watch Big Mac make a dragonfly toy fly and thought he was doing it with magic, and has since grown out of it and idolizes Applejack more, lending a quite poignant explanation for why he'd dream of being an Alicorn.
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** It could also be seen as this for the fans who disliked "Luna Eclipsed" for allowing Luna to let her past define her, instead of leaving it behind, [[FamilyUnfriendlyAesop in order to gain friends]]. See HarsherInHindsight below.

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** It could also be seen as this for the fans who disliked "Luna Eclipsed" for allowing Luna to let her past define her, instead of leaving it behind, [[FamilyUnfriendlyAesop in order to gain friends]].friends. See HarsherInHindsight below.
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** It could also be this for the fans who disliked "Luna Eclipsed" for allowing Luna to let her past define her, instead of leaving it behind, [[FamilyUnfriendlyAesop in order to gain friends]]. See HarsherInHindsight below.

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** It could also be seen as this for the fans who disliked "Luna Eclipsed" for allowing Luna to let her past define her, instead of leaving it behind, [[FamilyUnfriendlyAesop in order to gain friends]]. See HarsherInHindsight below.
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** It could also be this for the fans who disliked "Luna Eclipsed" for allowing Luna to let her past define her, instead of leaving it behind, [[FamilyUnfriendlyAesop in order to gain friends]]. See HarsherInHindsight below.
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** Was this a good episode that portrayed Luna finally forgiving herself in a well-done manner whilst adding some hilarious {{FandomNod}}s and showing that the background ponies can get in on the action just as well as the Mane Six? Or was it a badly done episode that portrayed Luna as a pony with [[HarmfulToMinors issues bordering on self-destruction]] that were far too quickly and unrealistically shunted under the rug?
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** The "Neigh, Soul Sister" episode of ''WebVideo/FriendshipIsWitchcraft'' has previously referenced ''Literature/DoAndroidsDreamOfElectricSheep''. When Applejack and Apple Bloom are herding sheep, Sweetie Belle (either a soulless robot or an {{android|sArePeopleToo}}) wonders "Why have I seen these creatures [[DoAndroidsDream in my dreams]]?" The episode "Lunar Slander" has a MeaningfulEcho that treads a bit closer to this episode's plot when Luna/Molestia animates the plush spiders in a carnival game and a [[SpearCarrier random background pony]] asks "Why have I seen these creatures in my [[SpidersAreScary nightmares]]?"

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** The "Neigh, Soul Sister" episode of ''WebVideo/FriendshipIsWitchcraft'' has previously referenced ''Literature/DoAndroidsDreamOfElectricSheep''. When Applejack and Apple Bloom are herding sheep, Sweetie Belle (either a soulless robot or an {{android|sArePeopleToo}}) wonders "Why have I seen these creatures [[DoAndroidsDream in my dreams]]?" The episode "Lunar Slander" has a MeaningfulEcho that treads a bit closer to this episode's plot when Luna/Molestia animates the plush spiders in a carnival game and a [[SpearCarrier random background pony]] asks "Why have I seen these creatures in my [[SpidersAreScary nightmares]]?"
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** The "Neigh, Soul Sister" episode of ''WebVideo/FriendshipIsWitchcraft'' has previously referenced ''Literature/DoAndroidsDreamOfElectricSheep''. When Applejack and Apple Bloom are herding sheep, Sweetie Belle (either a soulless robot or an {{android|sArePeopleToo}}) wonders "Why have I seen these creatures [[DoAndroidsDream in my dreams]]?" The episode "Lunar Slander" has a MeaningfulEcho when Luna/Molestia animates the plush spiders in a carnival game and a [[SpearCarrier random background pony]] asks "Why have I seen these creatures in my [[SpidersAreScary nightmares]]?"

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** The "Neigh, Soul Sister" episode of ''WebVideo/FriendshipIsWitchcraft'' has previously referenced ''Literature/DoAndroidsDreamOfElectricSheep''. When Applejack and Apple Bloom are herding sheep, Sweetie Belle (either a soulless robot or an {{android|sArePeopleToo}}) wonders "Why have I seen these creatures [[DoAndroidsDream in my dreams]]?" The episode "Lunar Slander" has a MeaningfulEcho that treads a bit closer to this episode's plot when Luna/Molestia animates the plush spiders in a carnival game and a [[SpearCarrier random background pony]] asks "Why have I seen these creatures in my [[SpidersAreScary nightmares]]?"
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** The "Neigh, Soul Sister" episode of ''WebVideo/FriendshipIsWitchcraft'' has previously referenced ''Literature/DoAndroidsDreamOfElectricSheep''. When Applejack and Apple Bloom are herding sheep, Sweetie Belle (either a soulless robot or an {{android|sArePeopleToo}}) wonders "Why have I seen these creatures in my dreams?" The episode "Lunar Slander" has a MeaningfulEcho when Luna/Molestia animates the plush spiders in a carnival game; a [[SpearCarrier random background pony]] asks "Why have I seen these creatures in my [[SpidersAreScary nightmares]]?"

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** The "Neigh, Soul Sister" episode of ''WebVideo/FriendshipIsWitchcraft'' has previously referenced ''Literature/DoAndroidsDreamOfElectricSheep''. When Applejack and Apple Bloom are herding sheep, Sweetie Belle (either a soulless robot or an {{android|sArePeopleToo}}) wonders "Why have I seen these creatures [[DoAndroidsDream in my dreams?" dreams]]?" The episode "Lunar Slander" has a MeaningfulEcho when Luna/Molestia animates the plush spiders in a carnival game; game and a [[SpearCarrier random background pony]] asks "Why have I seen these creatures in my [[SpidersAreScary nightmares]]?"
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** The "Neigh, Soul Sister" episode of ''WebVideo/FriendshipIsWitchcraft'' has previously referenced ''Literature/DoAndroidsDreamOfElectricSheep''. When Applejack and Apple Bloom are herding sheep, Sweetie Belle (either a soulless robot or an {{android|sArePeopleToo}}) wonders "Why have I seen these creatures in my dreams?" The episode "Lunar Slander" has a MeaningfulEcho when Luna/Molestia animates the plush spiders in a carnival game; a [[SpearCarrier random background pony]] asks "Why have I seen these creatures in my [[SpidersAreScary nightmares]]?"
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** Is this episode a well-written exploration of guilt, or a horridly-written exploration of depression that glosses over issues like Self Harm and makes them look like momentary ailments?
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