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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: How much of what the Lord Ruler did was because he was truly evil, and how much was [[spoiler: Ruin's influence?]] On the flip side, how much of what he did to protect his people was out of genuine caring, and how much was a PragmaticVillainy case of EvilVersusOblivion?

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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: How much of what the Lord Ruler did was because he was truly evil, and how much was [[spoiler: Ruin's influence?]] On the flip side, how much of what he did to protect his people was out of genuine caring, and how much was a PragmaticVillainy case of EvilVersusOblivion?EvilVersusOblivion? It should be noted that he was chosen for his willingness to murder a man who had never personally wronged him ''before'' he was ever exposed to Ruin.


** [[Characters/MistbornTheOriginalTrilogyKelsier Kelsier]] was little more than an arrogant master thief until he and his wife were sentenced to the dreaded Pits of Hathsin by the Lord Ruler. Escaping, he proceeded to hijack the rebellion as his private army and carefully spread his reputation as a quasi-religious figure across the empire, so that when he was killed his martyrdom would trigger a mass uprising that would topple the Lord Ruler - and ''The Secret History'' describes how even death couldn't keep him down for good as he continued his scheming as a [[OurGhostsAreDifferent cognitive shadow]]. Charismatic, brilliant, and more than a little mad, the Survivor of Hathsin would topple a thousand-year empire through sheer force of will and cunning and create a reputation for himself as an iconic figure that would endure for centuries.

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** [[Characters/MistbornTheOriginalTrilogyKelsier [[Characters/MistbornTheOriginalTrilogy Kelsier]] was little more than an arrogant master thief until he and his wife were sentenced to the dreaded Pits of Hathsin by the Lord Ruler. Escaping, he proceeded to hijack the rebellion as his private army and carefully spread his reputation as a quasi-religious figure across the empire, so that when he was killed his martyrdom would trigger a mass uprising that would topple the Lord Ruler - and ''The Secret History'' describes how even death couldn't keep him down for good as he continued his scheming as a [[OurGhostsAreDifferent cognitive shadow]]. Charismatic, brilliant, and more than a little mad, the Survivor of Hathsin would topple a thousand-year empire through sheer force of will and cunning and create a reputation for himself as an iconic figure that would endure for centuries.


** [[Characters/{{Kelsier}} Kelsier]] was little more than an arrogant master thief until he and his wife were sentenced to the dreaded Pits of Hathsin by the Lord Ruler. Escaping, he proceeded to hijack the rebellion as his private army and carefully spread his reputation as a quasi-religious figure across the empire, so that when he was killed his martyrdom would trigger a mass uprising that would topple the Lord Ruler - and ''The Secret History'' describes how even death couldn't keep him down for good as he continued his scheming as a [[OurGhostsAreDifferent cognitive shadow]]. Charismatic, brilliant, and more than a little mad, the Survivor of Hathsin would topple a thousand-year empire through sheer force of will and cunning and create a reputation for himself as an iconic figure that would endure for centuries.

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** [[Characters/{{Kelsier}} [[Characters/MistbornTheOriginalTrilogyKelsier Kelsier]] was little more than an arrogant master thief until he and his wife were sentenced to the dreaded Pits of Hathsin by the Lord Ruler. Escaping, he proceeded to hijack the rebellion as his private army and carefully spread his reputation as a quasi-religious figure across the empire, so that when he was killed his martyrdom would trigger a mass uprising that would topple the Lord Ruler - and ''The Secret History'' describes how even death couldn't keep him down for good as he continued his scheming as a [[OurGhostsAreDifferent cognitive shadow]]. Charismatic, brilliant, and more than a little mad, the Survivor of Hathsin would topple a thousand-year empire through sheer force of will and cunning and create a reputation for himself as an iconic figure that would endure for centuries.



* ParanoiaFuel: Consider the [[BigBad Big Bad's]] ability to alter written words and how powerful that is. This very book series could have been changed by him. In fact, you're reading right now. These very words could be the words of an evil god, working to manipulate your thoughts. [[spoiler:[[TheFourthWallWillNotProtectYou I am everywhere.]]]]

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* ParanoiaFuel: Consider the [[BigBad Big Bad's]] BigBad's ability to alter written words and how powerful that is. This very book series could have been changed by him. In fact, you're reading right now. These very words could be the words of an evil god, working to manipulate your thoughts. [[spoiler:[[TheFourthWallWillNotProtectYou I am everywhere.]]]]


** [[RebelLeader Kelsier]] was little more than an arrogant master thief until he and his wife were sentenced to the dreaded Pits of Hathsin by the Lord Ruler. Escaping, he proceeded to hijack the rebellion as his private army and carefully spread his reputation as a quasi-religious figure across the empire, so that when he was killed his martyrdom would trigger a mass uprising that would topple the Lord Ruler - and ''The Secret History'' describes how even death couldn't keep him down for good as he continued his scheming as a [[OurGhostsAreDifferent cognitive shadow]]. Charismatic, brilliant, and more than a little mad, the Survivor of Hathsin would topple a thousand-year empire through sheer force of will and cunning and create a reputation for himself as an iconic figure that would endure for centuries.

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** [[RebelLeader [[Characters/{{Kelsier}} Kelsier]] was little more than an arrogant master thief until he and his wife were sentenced to the dreaded Pits of Hathsin by the Lord Ruler. Escaping, he proceeded to hijack the rebellion as his private army and carefully spread his reputation as a quasi-religious figure across the empire, so that when he was killed his martyrdom would trigger a mass uprising that would topple the Lord Ruler - and ''The Secret History'' describes how even death couldn't keep him down for good as he continued his scheming as a [[OurGhostsAreDifferent cognitive shadow]]. Charismatic, brilliant, and more than a little mad, the Survivor of Hathsin would topple a thousand-year empire through sheer force of will and cunning and create a reputation for himself as an iconic figure that would endure for centuries.


* ParanoiaFuel: Consider the [[BigBad Big Bad's]] ability to alter written words and how powerful that is. This very book series could have been changed by him. In fact, you're reading right now. These very words could be the words of an evil god, working to manipulate your thoughts. [[spoiler:I am everywhere.]]

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* ParanoiaFuel: Consider the [[BigBad Big Bad's]] ability to alter written words and how powerful that is. This very book series could have been changed by him. In fact, you're reading right now. These very words could be the words of an evil god, working to manipulate your thoughts. [[spoiler:I [[spoiler:[[TheFourthWallWillNotProtectYou I am everywhere.]]]]]]


** [[RebelLeader Kelsier]] was little more than an arrogant master thief [[ItsPersonal until he and his wife were sentenced to the dreaded Pits of Hathsin by the Lord Ruler]]. Escaping, he proceeded to hijack the rebellion as his private army and carefully spread his reputation as a quasi-religious figure across the empire, so that when he was killed his martyrdom would trigger a mass uprising that would topple the Lord Ruler - and [[spoiler: ''MistbornSecretHistory'' describes how even death couldn't keep him down for good as he continued his scheming as a [[OurGhostsAreDifferent Cognitive Shadow]].]] Charismatic, brilliant, and more than a little mad, the Survivor of Hathsin would topple a thousand-year empire through sheer force of will and cunning and create a reputation for himself as an iconic figure that would endure for centuries. [[spoiler:And if he is Thaidakar, the leader of the Ghostbloods, as Literature/RhythmOfWar implies, then he’s managed to create/control a powerful, Cosmere-spanning, crime syndicate within 300 years... all while stuck on Scadrial!]]

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** [[RebelLeader Kelsier]] was little more than an arrogant master thief [[ItsPersonal until he and his wife were sentenced to the dreaded Pits of Hathsin by the Lord Ruler]]. Ruler. Escaping, he proceeded to hijack the rebellion as his private army and carefully spread his reputation as a quasi-religious figure across the empire, so that when he was killed his martyrdom would trigger a mass uprising that would topple the Lord Ruler - and [[spoiler: ''MistbornSecretHistory'' ''The Secret History'' describes how even death couldn't keep him down for good as he continued his scheming as a [[OurGhostsAreDifferent Cognitive Shadow]].]] cognitive shadow]]. Charismatic, brilliant, and more than a little mad, the Survivor of Hathsin would topple a thousand-year empire through sheer force of will and cunning and create a reputation for himself as an iconic figure that would endure for centuries. [[spoiler:And if he is Thaidakar, the leader of the Ghostbloods, as Literature/RhythmOfWar implies, then he’s managed to create/control a powerful, Cosmere-spanning, crime syndicate within 300 years... all while stuck on Scadrial!]]centuries.


** [=TenSoon=], due to his awesome CharacterDevelopment. [[spoiler:He even survives the trilogy and becomes a supporting character in ‘’Literature/ShadowsAndSelf'']].

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** [=TenSoon=], due to his awesome CharacterDevelopment. [[spoiler:He even survives the trilogy and becomes a supporting character in ‘’Literature/ShadowsAndSelf'']].‘’Literature/ShadowsOfSelf'']].


** [=TenSoon=], due to his awesome CharacterDevelopment.
** Marsh. Brandon even notes in his ''The Well of Ascension'' annotations that he was surprised by Marsh's very positive reception.

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** [=TenSoon=], due to his awesome CharacterDevelopment.
CharacterDevelopment. [[spoiler:He even survives the trilogy and becomes a supporting character in ‘’Literature/ShadowsAndSelf'']].
** Marsh. Brandon even notes in his ''The Well of Ascension'' annotations that he was surprised by Marsh's very positive reception. [[spoiler:He survives the trilogy and has a one-scene cameo in ''Literature/TheAlloyOfLaw'']].



** Following the release of the Literature/TheAlloyOfLaw supplement book this is actually no longer the case so long as you keep full Feruchemists and Mistborns out of the blend. Twinborns have their own rules and are very interesting (and balanced!), but have in turn replaced regular Mistborns and Feruchemists. As stated before, if you decide to blend full Feruchemists and Mistborns with Twinborn you'll have Game Breaking left and right.

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** Following the release of the Literature/TheAlloyOfLaw ''Literature/TheAlloyOfLaw'' supplement book this is actually no longer the case so long as you keep full Feruchemists and Mistborns out of the blend. Twinborns have their own rules and are very interesting (and balanced!), but have in turn replaced regular Mistborns and Feruchemists. As stated before, if you decide to blend full Feruchemists and Mistborns with Twinborn Twinborn, you'll have Game Breaking left and right.



* RomanticPlotTumor: In ''Well of Ascension'', Vin and Elend spend much of the book whining about their relationship and constantly fretting that one isn't good enough for the other. In Vin's case she's nervous that Elend doesn't love her as she is, but as her facade of Lady Valette and thinks that Elend should be with someone who doesn't emasculate him by being the one always protecting him and killing on his behalf. Elend, meanwhile, thinks that he's not badass enough to be worthy of a Mistborn like Vin and feels like he cannot understand how due to how "mysterious" she is. This is all while there's a siege going on, three armies camped outside Luthadel and assassins constantly being sent after Vin and/or Elend - you'd think they would spend their energy on more pressing concerns than how much they "love" each other.

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* RomanticPlotTumor: In ''Well ''The Well of Ascension'', Vin and Elend spend much of the book whining about their relationship and constantly fretting that one isn't good enough for the other. In Vin's case she's nervous that Elend doesn't love her as she is, but as her facade of Lady Valette and thinks that Elend should be with someone who doesn't emasculate him by being the one always protecting him and killing on his behalf. Elend, meanwhile, thinks that he's not badass enough to be worthy of a Mistborn like Vin and feels like he cannot understand how due to how "mysterious" she is. This is all while there's a siege going on, three armies camped outside Luthadel and assassins constantly being sent after Vin and/or Elend - you'd think they would spend their energy on more pressing concerns than how much they "love" each other.


** The Lord Ruler. Even Vin and [[spoiler: [[AmbigouslyGay Alendi]]]] find him attractive.

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** The Lord Ruler. Even Vin and [[spoiler: [[AmbigouslyGay [[HoYay Alendi]]]] find him attractive.



** Following the release of the Alloy of Law supplement book this is actually no longer the case so long as you keep full Feruchemists and Mistborns out of the blend. Twinborns have their own rules and are very interesting (and balanced!), but have in turn replaced regular Mistborns and Feruchemists. As stated before, if you decide to blend full Feruchemists and Mistborns with Twinborn you'll have Game Breaking left and right.
** Considering who [[BigBad can actually do this in-canon]], it's to be expected that it'd be a bit OP...

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** Following the release of the Alloy of Law Literature/TheAlloyOfLaw supplement book this is actually no longer the case so long as you keep full Feruchemists and Mistborns out of the blend. Twinborns have their own rules and are very interesting (and balanced!), but have in turn replaced regular Mistborns and Feruchemists. As stated before, if you decide to blend full Feruchemists and Mistborns with Twinborn you'll have Game Breaking left and right.
** Considering who [[BigBad who can actually do this in-canon]], it's to be expected that it'd be a bit OP...



** [[RebelLeader Kelsier]] was little more than an arrogant master thief until he and his wife were sentenced to the dreaded Pits of Hathsin by the Lord Ruler. Escaping, he proceeded to hijack the rebellion as his private army and carefully spread his reputation as a quasi-religious figure across the empire, so that when he was killed his martyrdom would trigger a mass uprising that would topple the Lord Ruler - and ''The Secret History'' describes how even death couldn't keep him down for good as he continued his scheming as a [[OurGhostsAreDifferent cognitive shadow]]. Charismatic, brilliant, and more than a little mad, the Survivor of Hathsin would topple a thousand-year empire through sheer force of will and cunning and create a reputation for himself as an iconic figure that would endure for centuries. [[spoiler:And if he is Thaidakar, as RoW implies, then he’s managed to create/control a powerful, Cosmere-spanning, crime syndicate within 300 years... all while stuck on Scadrial!]]

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** [[RebelLeader Kelsier]] was little more than an arrogant master thief [[ItsPersonal until he and his wife were sentenced to the dreaded Pits of Hathsin by the Lord Ruler. Ruler]]. Escaping, he proceeded to hijack the rebellion as his private army and carefully spread his reputation as a quasi-religious figure across the empire, so that when he was killed his martyrdom would trigger a mass uprising that would topple the Lord Ruler - and ''The Secret History'' [[spoiler: ''MistbornSecretHistory'' describes how even death couldn't keep him down for good as he continued his scheming as a [[OurGhostsAreDifferent cognitive shadow]]. Cognitive Shadow]].]] Charismatic, brilliant, and more than a little mad, the Survivor of Hathsin would topple a thousand-year empire through sheer force of will and cunning and create a reputation for himself as an iconic figure that would endure for centuries. [[spoiler:And if he is Thaidakar, the leader of the Ghostbloods, as RoW Literature/RhythmOfWar implies, then he’s managed to create/control a powerful, Cosmere-spanning, crime syndicate within 300 years... all while stuck on Scadrial!]]



* RomanticPlotTumor: In ''Well of Ascension'', Vin and Elend spend much of the book whining about their relationship and constantly fretting that one isn't good enough for the other. In Vin's case she's nervous that Elend doesn't love her as she is, but as her façade of Lady Valette and thinks that Elend should be with someone who doesn't emasculate him by being the one always protecting him and killing on his behalf. Elend, meanwhile, thinks that he's not badass enough to be worthy of a Mistborn like Vin and feels like he cannot understand how due to how "mysterious" she is. This is all while there's a siege going on, three armies camped outside Luthadel and assassins constantly being sent after Vin and/or Elend - you'd think they would spend their energy on more pressing concerns than how much they "love" each other.
* StrangledByTheRedString: Vin and Elend in the first book. They do share a few conversations in which they get to know each other, especially one during which Elend confesses to her his feelings about having to do something against the Final Empire's corruption and about his trauma when his father forced him to sleep with a skaa woman before having her killed when Elend was 13. However, you can make the argument that Vin falls for him too quickly, something that contrasts her otherwise extremely suspicious nature. She is even willing to put her life at stake by taking on other Mistborn (something she has never done up to that point) against the explicit wishes of Kelsier and the crew for his sake. Fortunately, the sequels flesh it out.

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* RomanticPlotTumor: In ''Well of Ascension'', Vin and Elend spend much of the book whining about their relationship and constantly fretting that one isn't good enough for the other. In Vin's case she's nervous that Elend doesn't love her as she is, but as her façade facade of Lady Valette and thinks that Elend should be with someone who doesn't emasculate him by being the one always protecting him and killing on his behalf. Elend, meanwhile, thinks that he's not badass enough to be worthy of a Mistborn like Vin and feels like he cannot understand how due to how "mysterious" she is. This is all while there's a siege going on, three armies camped outside Luthadel and assassins constantly being sent after Vin and/or Elend - you'd think they would spend their energy on more pressing concerns than how much they "love" each other.
* StrangledByTheRedString: Vin and Elend in the first book. They do share a few conversations in which they get to know each other, especially one during which Elend confesses to her his feelings about having to do something against the Final Empire's corruption and about his trauma when his father forced him to sleep with a skaa woman before having her killed when Elend was 13. However, you can make the argument that Vin falls for him too quickly, something that contrasts her otherwise extremely suspicious nature. She is even willing to put her life at stake by taking on other Mistborn (something she has never done up to that point) against the explicit wishes of Kelsier and the crew for his sake. Fortunately, the sequels flesh it out.out a LOT more.


* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: At the beginning of ''The Hero Of Ages'' [[spoiler: Ruin]] has returned and is poisoning the minds of everyone with a Spike, the Mists are slowly starving the already paltry crops of the empire, the inquisitors have an army of 300,000 koloss, and the entire world is slowly being smothered in ash. Happy days.

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* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: At the beginning of ''The Hero Of Ages'' Ages'', [[spoiler: Ruin]] has returned and is poisoning the minds of everyone with a Hemalurgic Spike, the Mists are slowly starving the already paltry crops of the empire, the inquisitors Steel Inquisitors have an army of 300,000 koloss, and the entire world is slowly being smothered in ash. Happy days.



** The Lord Ruler. Even Vin and [[spoiler:Alendi]] find him attractive.

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** The Lord Ruler. Even Vin and [[spoiler:Alendi]] [[spoiler: [[AmbigouslyGay Alendi]]]] find him attractive.


** [[RebelLeader Kelsier]] was little more than an arrogant master thief until he and his wife were sentenced to the dreaded Pits of Hathsin by the Lord Ruler. Escaping, he proceeded to hijack the rebellion as his private army and carefully spread his reputation as a quasi-religious figure across the empire, so that when he was killed his martyrdom would trigger a mass uprising that would topple the Lord Ruler - and ''The Secret History'' describes how even death couldn't keep him down for good as he continued his scheming as a [[OurGhostsAreDifferent cognitive shadow]]. Charismatic, brilliant, and more than a little mad, the Survivor of Hathsin would topple a thousand-year empire through sheer force of will and cunning and create a reputation for himself as an iconic figure that would endure for centuries.

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** [[RebelLeader Kelsier]] was little more than an arrogant master thief until he and his wife were sentenced to the dreaded Pits of Hathsin by the Lord Ruler. Escaping, he proceeded to hijack the rebellion as his private army and carefully spread his reputation as a quasi-religious figure across the empire, so that when he was killed his martyrdom would trigger a mass uprising that would topple the Lord Ruler - and ''The Secret History'' describes how even death couldn't keep him down for good as he continued his scheming as a [[OurGhostsAreDifferent cognitive shadow]]. Charismatic, brilliant, and more than a little mad, the Survivor of Hathsin would topple a thousand-year empire through sheer force of will and cunning and create a reputation for himself as an iconic figure that would endure for centuries. [[spoiler:And if he is Thaidakar, as RoW implies, then he’s managed to create/control a powerful, Cosmere-spanning, crime syndicate within 300 years... all while stuck on Scadrial!]]


* SoOkayItsAverage: While the story is very interesting, playing with, deconstructing, reconstructing, playing straight, and subverting any number of HighFantasy tropes, the writing style itself can be somewhat bland, and the author works a little too hard at being mysterious, planting several deliberate references to things yet unexplained, and pointing out how unexplained they are, as if to say to the reader "Hmm, isn't that mysterious? Don't want to keep reading to learn more?" He should thoroughly grab you by the midpoint of the first book, though, [[spoiler: during the great, intense, pulse-pounding scene of Kelsier, Vin, and the Inquisitors.]]

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* RomanticPlotTumor: In ''Well of Ascension'', Vin and Elend spend much of the book whining about their relationship and constantly fretting that one isn't good enough for the other. In Vin's case she's nervous that Elend doesn't love her as she is, but as her façade of Lady Valette and thinks that Elend should be with someone who doesn't emasculate him by being the one always protecting him and killing on his behalf. Elend, meanwhile, thinks that he's not badass enough to be worthy of a Mistborn like Vin and feels like he cannot understand how due to how "mysterious" she is. This is all while there's a siege going on, three armies camped outside Luthadel and assassins constantly being sent after Vin and/or Elend - you'd think they would spend their energy on more pressing concerns than how much they "love" each other.


* DracoInLeatherPants: In-universe. By the third book, characters such as Sazed and Elend speak positively of the Lord Ruler and his [[spoiler: wisdom in establishing the storehouses]], apparently forgetting that he was a cruel, oppressive tyrant. It gets to the point that had a reader not read the first book, they might wonder why exactly the rebellion existed in the first place.


* StrangledByTheRedString: Vin and Elend in the first book. They do share a few conversations in which they learn to know each other, especially one during which Elend confesses to her his feelings about having to do something against the Final Empire's corruption and about his traumatism when his father forced him to sleep with a skaa woman before having her killed when Elend was 13. However, you can make the argument that Vin falls for him too quickly, something that contrasts her otherwise extremely suspicious nature. She is even willing to put her life at stake by taking on other Mistborn (something she has never done up to that point) against the explicit wishes of Kelsier and the crew for his sake. Fortunately, the sequels flesh it out.

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* StrangledByTheRedString: Vin and Elend in the first book. They do share a few conversations in which they learn get to know each other, especially one during which Elend confesses to her his feelings about having to do something against the Final Empire's corruption and about his traumatism trauma when his father forced him to sleep with a skaa woman before having her killed when Elend was 13. However, you can make the argument that Vin falls for him too quickly, something that contrasts her otherwise extremely suspicious nature. She is even willing to put her life at stake by taking on other Mistborn (something she has never done up to that point) against the explicit wishes of Kelsier and the crew for his sake. Fortunately, the sequels flesh it out.

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