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* RPGMechanicsVerse: The setting and magic systems in particular have drawn comparisons to many RPG systems. [[spoiler: The Lord Ruler combining Allomancy and Feruchemy to avoid the drawbacks of both had a particularly MinMaxing feel to it.]]


** [[EvilOverlord The Lord Ruler]] is the [[GodEmperor godlike emperor]] of the Final Empire who rose from humble origins to become a tyrant who united the known world under his rule and reshaped it in his image. Despite centuries spent struggling with [[BigBad Ruin's]] influence on his thoughts, the Lord Ruler remained determined to ensure the survival of humanity [[WellIntentionedExtremist by any means necessary]] and set numerous contingency plans in motion. Even following the Lord Ruler's death his hand continued to work behind the scenes and would play a key role in Ruin's final defeat, and even centuries down the line his influence on Scadrial's history can't be entirely escaped.

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** [[EvilOverlord The Lord Ruler]] is the [[GodEmperor godlike emperor]] of the Final Empire who rose from humble origins to become a tyrant who united the known world under his rule and reshaped it in his image. Despite centuries spent struggling with [[BigBad Ruin's]] [[spoiler:[[BigBad Ruin's]]]] influence on his thoughts, the Lord Ruler remained determined to ensure the survival of humanity [[WellIntentionedExtremist by any means necessary]] and set numerous contingency plans in motion. Even following the Lord Ruler's death his hand continued to work behind the scenes and would play a key role in Ruin's [[spoiler:Ruin's]] final defeat, and even centuries down the line his influence on Scadrial's history can't be entirely escaped.



* RPGMechanicsVerse: The setting and magic systems in particular have drawn comparisons to many RPG systems. The Lord Ruler combining Allomancy and Feruchemy to avoid the drawbacks of both had a particularly MinMaxing feel to it.
* SoOkayItsAverage: While the story is very interesting, playing with, deconstructing, reconstructing, playing straight, and subverting any number of HighFantasy tropes, the writing style itself can be somewhat bland, and the author works a little to hard at being mysterious, planting several deliberate references to things yet unexplained, and pointing out how unexplained they are, as if to say to the reader "Hmm, isn't that mysterious? Don't want to keep reading to learn more?" He should thoroughly grab you by the midpoint of the first book, though, [[spoiler: during the great, intense, pulse-pounding scene of Kelsier, Vin, and the Inquisitors.]]

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* RPGMechanicsVerse: The setting and magic systems in particular have drawn comparisons to many RPG systems. [[spoiler: The Lord Ruler combining Allomancy and Feruchemy to avoid the drawbacks of both had a particularly MinMaxing feel to it.
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* SoOkayItsAverage: While the story is very interesting, playing with, deconstructing, reconstructing, playing straight, and subverting any number of HighFantasy tropes, the writing style itself can be somewhat bland, and the author works a little to too hard at being mysterious, planting several deliberate references to things yet unexplained, and pointing out how unexplained they are, as if to say to the reader "Hmm, isn't that mysterious? Don't want to keep reading to learn more?" He should thoroughly grab you by the midpoint of the first book, though, [[spoiler: during the great, intense, pulse-pounding scene of Kelsier, Vin, and the Inquisitors.]]



** Much is made in the first book about Kelsier not having enough time to personally train Vin, and having the other crewmembers (who are Mistings, and so can only burn one metal) teach her their specific metals. Vin quickly realizes that, in exchange for the versatility of being Misborn, the Mistings have learned to use their individual metals much more subtly and thoroughly than Kelsier had. Little ever comes of this, however, with Vin instead discovering duralumin, which lets her put super-duper oomph behind her Allomantic powers.

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** Much is made in the first book about Kelsier not having enough time to personally train Vin, and having the other crewmembers (who are Mistings, and so can only burn one metal) teach her their specific metals. Vin quickly realizes that, in exchange for the versatility of being Misborn, the Mistings have learned to use their individual metals much more subtly and thoroughly than Kelsier had. Little ever comes of this, however, with Vin instead discovering duralumin, [[spoiler:duralumin, which lets her put super-duper oomph behind her Allomantic powers.]]


* CompleteMonster: [[SmugSnake Lord Straff Venture]] is introduced in ''The Final Empire'' as a [[AristocratsAreEvil brutal noble]] ready to commit all manner of atrocities to cement his power. He systematically [[AbusiveParents abuses his children]] to force them to conform to his standards, even trying to have his son Elend assassinated. He sires illegitimate children to use as loyal assassins and spies, and discards his mistresses when they get too old--too old being late teens. In ''The Well of Ascension'', he allows an army of monsters, known for their ruthlessness and utter lack of mercy, to attack an enemy city, regardless of collateral damage. He later decides to allow the city's destruction, concluding he only cares about the Atium rumoured to be hidden in the city. Caring for nothing but his own power and advancement, and seeing others as nothing but tools to use or obstacles to be destroyed, Venture stands out as one of the only [[HumansAreTheRealMonsters humans]] in ''Literature/TheCosmere'' completely devoid of sympathy.

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* CompleteMonster: [[SmugSnake Lord Straff Venture]] is introduced in ''The Final Empire'' as a [[AristocratsAreEvil brutal noble]] ready to commit all manner of atrocities to cement his power. He systematically [[AbusiveParents abuses his children]] to force them to conform to his standards, even trying to have his son Elend assassinated. He sires illegitimate children to use as loyal assassins and spies, and discards his mistresses when they get too old--too old being late teens. In ''The Well of Ascension'', he allows an army of monsters, known for their ruthlessness and utter lack of mercy, to attack an enemy city, regardless of collateral damage. He later decides to allow the city's destruction, concluding he only cares about the Atium rumoured rumored to be hidden in the city. Caring for nothing but his own power and advancement, and seeing others as nothing but tools to use or obstacles to be destroyed, Venture stands out as one of the only [[HumansAreTheRealMonsters humans]] in ''Literature/TheCosmere'' completely devoid of sympathy.


* CompleteMonster: Lord Straff Venture is introduced in ''The Final Empire'' as a [[AristocratsAreEvil brutal noble]] ready to commit all manner of evil things he thinks will help cement his power. He is utterly okay with [[AbusiveParents systematically abusing both of his children]] to force them to conform to his standards. In ''The Well of Ascension'' he allows an army of monsters, known for their ruthlessness and utter lack of mercy, to attack an enemy city lowering its defences. He later decides to allow the entire city to be destroyed, concluding he only cares about the Atium rumoured to be hidden in the city.

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* CompleteMonster: [[SmugSnake Lord Straff Venture Venture]] is introduced in ''The Final Empire'' as a [[AristocratsAreEvil brutal noble]] ready to commit all manner of evil things he thinks will help atrocities to cement his power. He is utterly okay with systematically [[AbusiveParents systematically abusing both of abuses his children]] to force them to conform to his standards. standards, even trying to have his son Elend assassinated. He sires illegitimate children to use as loyal assassins and spies, and discards his mistresses when they get too old--too old being late teens. In ''The Well of Ascension'' Ascension'', he allows an army of monsters, known for their ruthlessness and utter lack of mercy, to attack an enemy city lowering its defences. city, regardless of collateral damage. He later decides to allow the entire city to be destroyed, city's destruction, concluding he only cares about the Atium rumoured to be hidden in the city.city. Caring for nothing but his own power and advancement, and seeing others as nothing but tools to use or obstacles to be destroyed, Venture stands out as one of the only [[HumansAreTheRealMonsters humans]] in ''Literature/TheCosmere'' completely devoid of sympathy.

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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: How much of what the Lord Ruler did was because he was truly evil, and how much was [[spoiler: Ruin's influence?]] On the flip side, how much of what he did to protect his people was out of genuine caring, and how much was a PragmaticVillainy case of EvilVersusOblivion?


* {{Tearjerker}}: [[spoiler: Preservation]]'s death. [[spoiler: Sazed]]'s annotations say that if Elend had stuck around for a few minutes after the final appearance of the mist spirit, he would have seen [[spoiler: the corpse of the man that Preservation once was form out of the mists before being buried in ash.]]


* JerkassWoobie: Cett and [[spoiler:Rashek]].

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* JerkassWoobie: Cett and [[spoiler:Rashek]].


* ''Literature/MistbornTheOriginalTrilogy'':


** The Lord Ruler, in the way he manipulates the nobility and [[CorruptChurch obligators]] and especially post-mortem when it becomes obvious [[spoiler: all the plans he had in place for the event of his own death]]. Pity for him that Kelsier is [[GuileHero more magnificent than he is]].
** Kar and Bendal, who manipulate the hell out of the Obligators, and even have their own subplot about how their scheming is screwing over the heroes.

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* ''Literature/MistbornTheOriginalTrilogy'':
** [[EvilOverlord The Lord Ruler, in Ruler]] is the way he manipulates the nobility and [[CorruptChurch obligators]] and especially post-mortem when it becomes obvious [[spoiler: all the plans he had in place for the event of his own death]]. Pity for him that Kelsier is [[GuileHero more magnificent than he is]].
** Kar and Bendal, who manipulate the hell out
[[GodEmperor godlike emperor]] of the Obligators, Final Empire who rose from humble origins to become a tyrant who united the known world under his rule and reshaped it in his image. Despite centuries spent struggling with [[BigBad Ruin's]] influence on his thoughts, the Lord Ruler remained determined to ensure the survival of humanity [[WellIntentionedExtremist by any means necessary]] and set numerous contingency plans in motion. Even following the Lord Ruler's death his hand continued to work behind the scenes and would play a key role in Ruin's final defeat, and even have their own subplot about centuries down the line his influence on Scadrial's history can't be entirely escaped.
** [[RebelLeader Kelsier]] was little more than an arrogant master thief until he and his wife were sentenced to the dreaded Pits of Hathsin by the Lord Ruler. Escaping, he proceeded to hijack the rebellion as his private army and carefully spread his reputation as a quasi-religious figure across the empire, so that when he was killed his martyrdom would trigger a mass uprising that would topple the Lord Ruler - and ''The Secret History'' describes
how their even death couldn't keep him down for good as he continued his scheming is screwing over as a [[OurGhostsAreDifferent cognitive shadow]]. Charismatic, brilliant, and more than a little mad, the heroes.Survivor of Hathsin would topple a thousand-year empire through sheer force of will and cunning and create a reputation for himself as an iconic figure that would endure for centuries.

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* GameBreaker: In the TabletopGame, narrators are advised not to try and combine Allomancy and Feruchemy because the rules to handle this ''without'' making it a GameBreaker don't yet exist.
** Following the release of the Alloy of Law supplement book this is actually no longer the case so long as you keep full Feruchemists and Mistborns out of the blend. Twinborns have their own rules and are very interesting (and balanced!), but have in turn replaced regular Mistborns and Feruchemists. As stated before, if you decide to blend full Feruchemists and Mistborns with Twinborn you'll have Game Breaking left and right.
** Considering who [[BigBad can actually do this in-canon]], it's to be expected that it'd be a bit OP...


* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: Much is made in the first book about Kelsier not having enough time to personally train Vin, and having the other crewmembers (who are Mistings, and so can only burn one metal) teach her their specific metals. Vin quickly realizes that, in exchange for the versatility of being Misborn, the Mistings have learned to use their individual metals much more subtly and thoroughly than Kelsier had. Little ever comes of this, however, with Vin instead discovering duralumin, which lets her put super-duper oomph behind her Allomantic powers.

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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot:
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Much is made in the first book about Kelsier not having enough time to personally train Vin, and having the other crewmembers (who are Mistings, and so can only burn one metal) teach her their specific metals. Vin quickly realizes that, in exchange for the versatility of being Misborn, the Mistings have learned to use their individual metals much more subtly and thoroughly than Kelsier had. Little ever comes of this, however, with Vin instead discovering duralumin, which lets her put super-duper oomph behind her Allomantic powers.powers.
** A minor one. During one of the parts told from Breeze's point of view, we learn that he's actually a full-blooded aristocrat but never revealed this secret to anyone. This could have led to interesting dialogues and developments if other members of the crew discovered it, especially Kelsier and Dockson. However, this backstory never actually plays any part during the story.


* StrangledByTheRedString: Vin and Elend in the first book; Vin is willing to put her life at stake by taking on other Mistborn (something she has never done up to that point) against the explicit wishes of Kelsier and the crew for the sake of an air-headed nobleman after he snarked at her a few times at parties (made worse because it firmly contrasts her otherwise extremely suspicious nature). Fortunately, the sequels flesh it out a little.

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* StrangledByTheRedString: Vin and Elend in the first book; book. They do share a few conversations in which they learn to know each other, especially one during which Elend confesses to her his feelings about having to do something against the Final Empire's corruption and about his traumatism when his father forced him to sleep with a skaa woman before having her killed when Elend was 13. However, you can make the argument that Vin falls for him too quickly, something that contrasts her otherwise extremely suspicious nature. She is even willing to put her life at stake by taking on other Mistborn (something she has never done up to that point) against the explicit wishes of Kelsier and the crew for the sake of an air-headed nobleman after he snarked at her a few times at parties (made worse because it firmly contrasts her otherwise extremely suspicious nature). his sake. Fortunately, the sequels flesh it out a little.out.


* RPGMechanicsVerse: The setting and magic systems in particular have drawn comparisons to many RPG systems. The Lord Ruler combining Allomancer and Ferachemy to avoid the drawbacks of both had a particularly MinMaxing feel to it.

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* RPGMechanicsVerse: The setting and magic systems in particular have drawn comparisons to many RPG systems. The Lord Ruler combining Allomancer Allomancy and Ferachemy Feruchemy to avoid the drawbacks of both had a particularly MinMaxing feel to it.


* RPGRulesVerse: The setting and magic systems in particular have drawn comparisons to many RPG systems. The Lord Ruler combining Allomancer and Ferachemy to avoid the drawbacks of both had a particularly MinMaxing feel to it.

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* RPGRulesVerse: RPGMechanicsVerse: The setting and magic systems in particular have drawn comparisons to many RPG systems. The Lord Ruler combining Allomancer and Ferachemy to avoid the drawbacks of both had a particularly MinMaxing feel to it.

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* RPGRulesVerse: The setting and magic systems in particular have drawn comparisons to many RPG systems. The Lord Ruler combining Allomancer and Ferachemy to avoid the drawbacks of both had a particularly MinMaxing feel to it.

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