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* DontShootTheMessage: In "Weredad", Cat Noir comes back to the bakery to apologize after Tom gets Akumatized over his rejection of Marinette, but Sabine reassures him that he doesn't have to be ashamed of how he feels, regardless of how Tom chose to react to it. While the advice and who it's given to are fine, the scene has attracted [[http://zoe-oneesama.tumblr.com/post/181561104119/you-know-the-part-where-sabine-says-something criticism]] for creating a massive DoubleStandard considering the treatment of Marinette/Ladybug in previous seasons, especially in the episodes where she rejected Cat Noir and wasn't given any such support.
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** By the end of season 5, Félix Fathom is ultimately portrayed as a true hero who, like the rest of Marinette's allies, [[spoiler:deserves to keep his Miraculous permanently]]...which ignores the fact that he essentially caused season 5's plot to happen by [[spoiler:willingly delivering all the Miraculouses sans Ladybug and Cat Noir's to the BigBad so he can get the Peacock Miraculous]]. And the fact that, not only did he never get a proper moment to atone for this, but that he continued to do morally-questionable things throughout season 5, including [[spoiler:using a sentimonster to wipe multiple people from existence]]. Needless to say, a number of fans didn't exactly buy it.

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** By the end of season 5, Félix Fathom is ultimately portrayed as a true hero who, like the rest of Marinette's allies, [[spoiler:deserves to keep his Miraculous permanently]]... which ignores the fact that he essentially caused season 5's plot to happen by [[spoiler:willingly delivering all the Miraculouses sans Ladybug and Cat Noir's to the BigBad so he can get the Peacock Miraculous]]. And the fact that, not only did he never get a proper moment to atone for this, but that he continued to do morally-questionable things throughout season 5, including [[spoiler:using a sentimonster to wipe multiple people from existence]]. Needless to say, a number of fans didn't exactly buy it.
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TakeThatScrappy: Many people were happy that Chloé shut down André's ice cream stand considering the latter was a creep focused on love especially towards teens, his UnintentionalUnsympathetic nature, and [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking operating a stand without a license.]]

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* TakeThatScrappy: Many people were happy that Chloé shut down André's ice cream stand considering the latter was a creep focused on love especially towards teens, his UnintentionalUnsympathetic UnintentionallyUnsympathetic nature, and [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking operating a stand without a license.]]
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TakeThatScrappy: Many people were happy that Chloé shut down André's ice cream stand considering the latter was a creep focused on love especially towards teens, his UnintentionalUnsympathetic nature, and [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking operating a stand without a license.]]
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* {{Wangst}}:
** Many fans feel Nathalie's HeelFaceTurn is weak and hollow, mostly because the only reason why she stops working for Gabriel TheDragon because is no longer fit for her own benefit, not because she feels remorse for her actions. Before her condition worsens due to the side effect of using broken miraculous, Nathalie does absolutely nothing meaningful aside from criticizing Gabriel's behavior and briefly commanding Adrien's amok. On-screen, Nathalie is mostly seen weeping over Emilie's video of her being unable to do something to stop Gabriel.
** Many consider Félix's DarkAndTroubledPast to be weak and uninspiring since ''Miraculous Ladybug'' already has a character who has a situation similar to his, with some of them feeling that the narrative doesn't excuse the bad attitude as being due to their bad parents. To elaborate, this stems from two main issues: 1. Most of his backstory in "Representation" is comes from Félix's perspective. While he seems honest in describing his father's maliciousness, since Félix is good at twisting his words, making fans feels he is still an UnreliableNarrator 2. Even if Colt indeed AbusiveParents, we still have no idea how vile Colt was since he was already long dead, making fans feel Colt's existence is just to excuse Gabriel's behavior as justifiable to take full control on Adrien due to out-of-love instead see Gabriel action's as emotionally abusive and manipulative father.
** Fans also see André Bourgeois's confession in "Collusion" as this. His unwillingness to be Mayor and give up his career of making a movie to please his horrid wife and bratty daughter is being considered to be a weak and pathetic FreudianExcuse and makes him look like a whiny ManChild. Him calling Chloé, his own biological daughter as "heartless", making André even more unsympathetic due to his refusal to realize her worsening attitude is comes from his parenting, since he is the one who solely raised Chloé into a SpoiledBrat during Audrey's absence.

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* MoreInterestingAsAVillain:
** Inverted in Chloé. Although most of her fans didn't expect her to be an instant AllLovingHero on her "redemption arc", the majority of them like to make Chloé/Queen Bee a neutral AntiHero and {{Foil}} for Marinette/Ladybug in some Fanfiction [=AU=]s where she got a proper redemption arc to balance the dynamic on Miraculous Team. Most of Chloé fans hate the exaggeration of her bad attitude to cement her villainy status, as she never becomes an interesting villain on her own in Season 4 and Season 5 since most of them feels this exaggeration is only to hype [[spoiler:Zoé]] as a "true Bee Miraculous holder".
** Fans were utterly disappointed over Félix's sudden HeelFaceTurn despite his committing many bad deeds out of spite toward the protagonist, such as betraying Ladybug and taking all Miraculouses to exchange for the Peacock miraculous from Gabriel, attempting to erase humanity to create his utopia, and stalking and kidnapping Kagami. In spite of his tragic past, he has done nothing to atone for his wrongdoing. What fans, especially his fans, would like to see is him staying as an AntiVillain on his own, without allying with either the protagonist or antagonist side.

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* MoreInterestingAsAVillain:
** Inverted in Chloé. Although most of her fans didn't expect her to be an instant AllLovingHero on her "redemption arc", the majority of them like to make Chloé/Queen Bee a neutral AntiHero and {{Foil}} for Marinette/Ladybug in some Fanfiction [=AU=]s where she got a proper redemption arc to balance the dynamic on Miraculous Team. Most of Chloé fans hate the exaggeration of her bad attitude to cement her villainy status, as she never becomes an interesting villain on her own in Season 4 and Season 5 since most of them feels this exaggeration is only to hype [[spoiler:Zoé]] as a "true Bee Miraculous holder".
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MoreInterestingAsAVillain: Fans were utterly disappointed over Félix's sudden HeelFaceTurn despite his committing many bad deeds out of spite toward the protagonist, such as betraying Ladybug and taking all Miraculouses to exchange for the Peacock miraculous from Gabriel, attempting to erase humanity to create his utopia, and stalking and kidnapping Kagami. In spite of his tragic past, he has done nothing to atone for his wrongdoing. What fans, especially his fans, would like to see is him staying as an AntiVillain on his own, without allying with either the protagonist or antagonist side.

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* MoreInterestingAsAVillain:
** Inverted in Chloé. Although most of her fans didn't expect her to be an instant AllLovingHero on her "redemption arc", the majority of them like to make Chloé/Queen Bee a neutral AntiHero and {{Foil}} for Marinette/Ladybug in some Fanfiction [=AU=]s where she got a proper redemption arc to balance the dynamic on Miraculous Team. Most of Chloé fans hate the exaggeration of her bad attitude to cement her villainy status, as she never becomes an interesting villain on her own in Season 4 and Season 5 since most of them feels this exaggeration is only to hype [[spoiler:Zoé]] as a "true Bee Miraculous holder".
** Fans were utterly disappointed over Félix's sudden HeelFaceTurn despite his committing many bad deeds out of spite toward the protagonist, such as betraying Ladybug and taking all Miraculouses to exchange for the Peacock miraculous from Gabriel, attempting to erase humanity to create his utopia, and stalking and kidnapping Kagami. In spite of his tragic past, he has done nothing to atone for his wrongdoing. What fans, especially his fans, would like to see is him staying as an AntiVillain on his own, without allying with either the protagonist or antagonist side.



* SugarWiki/VisualEffectsOfAwesome: As noted on the main page, the CG version of ''Miraculous Ladybug'' was produced for $11.5M, more than most Western productions. This has blessed the show with highly-detailed visual design, dynamic battle choreography, expressive animation and particle effec

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* SugarWiki/VisualEffectsOfAwesome: As noted on the main page, the CG version of ''Miraculous Ladybug'' was produced for $11.5M, more than most Western productions. This has blessed the show with highly-detailed visual design, dynamic battle choreography, expressive animation and particle effeceffects.
* {{Wangst}}:
** Many fans feel Nathalie's HeelFaceTurn is weak and hollow, mostly because the only reason why she stops working for Gabriel TheDragon because is no longer fit for her own benefit, not because she feels remorse for her actions. Before her condition worsens due to the side effect of using broken miraculous, Nathalie does absolutely nothing meaningful aside from criticizing Gabriel's behavior and briefly commanding Adrien's amok. On-screen, Nathalie is mostly seen weeping over Emilie's video of her being unable to do something to stop Gabriel.
** Many consider Félix's DarkAndTroubledPast to be weak and uninspiring since ''Miraculous Ladybug'' already has a character who has a situation similar to his, with some of them feeling that the narrative doesn't excuse the bad attitude as being due to their bad parents. To elaborate, this stems from two main issues: 1. Most of his backstory in "Representation" is comes from Félix's perspective. While he seems honest in describing his father's maliciousness, since Félix is good at twisting his words, making fans feels he is still an UnreliableNarrator 2. Even if Colt indeed AbusiveParents, we still have no idea how vile Colt was since he was already long dead, making fans feel Colt's existence is just to excuse Gabriel's behavior as justifiable to take full control on Adrien due to out-of-love instead see Gabriel action's as emotionally abusive and manipulative father.
** Fans also see André Bourgeois's confession in "Collusion" as this. His unwillingness to be Mayor and give up his career of making a movie to please his horrid wife and bratty daughter is being considered to be a weak and pathetic FreudianExcuse and makes him look like a whiny ManChild. Him calling Chloé, his own biological daughter as "heartless", making André even more unsympathetic due to his refusal to realize her worsening attitude is comes from his parenting, since he is the one who solely raised Chloé into a SpoiledBrat during Audrey's absence.

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* MoreInterestingAsAVillain:
** Inverted in Chloé. Although most of her fans didn't expect her to be an instant AllLovingHero on her "redemption arc", the majority of them like to make Chloé/Queen Bee a neutral AntiHero and {{Foil}} for Marinette/Ladybug in some Fanfiction [=AU=]s where she got a proper redemption arc to balance the dynamic on Miraculous Team. Most of Chloé fans hate the exaggeration of her bad attitude to cement her villainy status, as she never becomes an interesting villain on her own in Season 4 and Season 5 since most of them feels this exaggeration is only to hype [[spoiler:Zoé]] as a "true Bee Miraculous holder".
** Fans were utterly disappointed over Félix's sudden HeelFaceTurn despite his committing many bad deeds out of spite toward the protagonist, such as betraying Ladybug and taking all Miraculouses to exchange for the Peacock miraculous from Gabriel, attempting to erase humanity to create his utopia, and stalking and kidnapping Kagami. In spite of his tragic past, he has done nothing to atone for his wrongdoing. What fans, especially his fans, would like to see is him staying as an AntiVillain on his own, without allying with either the protagonist or antagonist side.



* SugarWiki/VisualEffectsOfAwesome: As noted on the main page, the CG version of ''Miraculous Ladybug'' was produced for $11.5M, more than most Western productions. This has blessed the show with highly-detailed visual design, dynamic battle choreography, expressive animation and particle effects.
* {{Wangst}}:
** Many fans feel Nathalie's HeelFaceTurn is weak and hollow, mostly because the only reason why she stops working for Gabriel TheDragon because is no longer fit for her own benefit, not because she feels remorse for her actions. Before her condition worsens due to the side effect of using broken miraculous, Nathalie does absolutely nothing meaningful aside from criticizing Gabriel's behavior and briefly commanding Adrien's amok. On-screen, Nathalie is mostly seen weeping over Emilie's video of her being unable to do something to stop Gabriel.
** Many consider Félix's DarkAndTroubledPast to be weak and uninspiring since ''Miraculous Ladybug'' already has a character who has a situation similar to his, with some of them feeling that the narrative doesn't excuse the bad attitude as being due to their bad parents. To elaborate, this stems from two main issues: 1. Most of his backstory in "Representation" is comes from Félix's perspective. While he seems honest in describing his father's maliciousness, since Félix is good at twisting his words, making fans feels he is still an UnreliableNarrator 2. Even if Colt indeed AbusiveParents, we still have no idea how vile Colt was since he was already long dead, making fans feel Colt's existence is just to excuse Gabriel's behavior as justifiable to take full control on Adrien due to out-of-love instead see Gabriel action's as emotionally abusive and manipulative father.
** Fans also see André Bourgeois's confession in "Collusion" as this. His unwillingness to be Mayor and give up his career of making a movie to please his horrid wife and bratty daughter is being considered to be a weak and pathetic FreudianExcuse and makes him look like a whiny ManChild. Him calling Chloé, his own biological daughter as "heartless", making André even more unsympathetic due to his refusal to realize her worsening attitude is comes from his parenting, since he is the one who solely raised Chloé into a SpoiledBrat during Audrey's absence.

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* SugarWiki/VisualEffectsOfAwesome: As noted on the main page, the CG version of ''Miraculous Ladybug'' was produced for $11.5M, more than most Western productions. This has blessed the show with highly-detailed visual design, dynamic battle choreography, expressive animation and particle effects.
* {{Wangst}}:
** Many fans feel Nathalie's HeelFaceTurn is weak and hollow, mostly because the only reason why she stops working for Gabriel TheDragon because is no longer fit for her own benefit, not because she feels remorse for her actions. Before her condition worsens due to the side effect of using broken miraculous, Nathalie does absolutely nothing meaningful aside from criticizing Gabriel's behavior and briefly commanding Adrien's amok. On-screen, Nathalie is mostly seen weeping over Emilie's video of her being unable to do something to stop Gabriel.
** Many consider Félix's DarkAndTroubledPast to be weak and uninspiring since ''Miraculous Ladybug'' already has a character who has a situation similar to his, with some of them feeling that the narrative doesn't excuse the bad attitude as being due to their bad parents. To elaborate, this stems from two main issues: 1. Most of his backstory in "Representation" is comes from Félix's perspective. While he seems honest in describing his father's maliciousness, since Félix is good at twisting his words, making fans feels he is still an UnreliableNarrator 2. Even if Colt indeed AbusiveParents, we still have no idea how vile Colt was since he was already long dead, making fans feel Colt's existence is just to excuse Gabriel's behavior as justifiable to take full control on Adrien due to out-of-love instead see Gabriel action's as emotionally abusive and manipulative father.
** Fans also see André Bourgeois's confession in "Collusion" as this. His unwillingness to be Mayor and give up his career of making a movie to please his horrid wife and bratty daughter is being considered to be a weak and pathetic FreudianExcuse and makes him look like a whiny ManChild. Him calling Chloé, his own biological daughter as "heartless", making André even more unsympathetic due to his refusal to realize her worsening attitude is comes from his parenting, since he is the one who solely raised Chloé into a SpoiledBrat during Audrey's absence.
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** Inverted in Chloé. Although most of her fans didn't expect her to be an instant AllLovingHero on her "redemption arc", the majority of them like to make Chloé/Queen Bee a neutral AntiHero and {{Foil}} for Marinette/Ladybug in some Fanfiction [=AU=]s where she got a proper redemption arc to balance the dynamic on Miraculous Team. Most of Chloé fans hate the exaggeration of her bad attitude to cement her villainy status, as she never becomes an interesting villain on her own in Season 4 and Season 5 since most of them feels this exaggeration is only to hype Zoé as a "true Bee Miraculous holder".

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** Inverted in Chloé. Although most of her fans didn't expect her to be an instant AllLovingHero on her "redemption arc", the majority of them like to make Chloé/Queen Bee a neutral AntiHero and {{Foil}} for Marinette/Ladybug in some Fanfiction [=AU=]s where she got a proper redemption arc to balance the dynamic on Miraculous Team. Most of Chloé fans hate the exaggeration of her bad attitude to cement her villainy status, as she never becomes an interesting villain on her own in Season 4 and Season 5 since most of them feels this exaggeration is only to hype Zoé [[spoiler:Zoé]] as a "true Bee Miraculous holder".



** Fans also see André Bourgeois's confession in "Collusion" as this. His unwillingness to be Mayor and give up his career of making a movie to please his horrid wife and bratty daughter is being considered to be a weak and pathetic FreudianExcuse and makes him look like a whiny ManChild. Him calling Chloé, his own biological daughter as "heartless", making André even more unsympathetic due to his refusal to realize her worsening attitude is comes from his parenting, since he is the one who solely raised Chloé into a Spoiled Brat during Audrey's absence.

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** Fans also see André Bourgeois's confession in "Collusion" as this. His unwillingness to be Mayor and give up his career of making a movie to please his horrid wife and bratty daughter is being considered to be a weak and pathetic FreudianExcuse and makes him look like a whiny ManChild. Him calling Chloé, his own biological daughter as "heartless", making André even more unsympathetic due to his refusal to realize her worsening attitude is comes from his parenting, since he is the one who solely raised Chloé into a Spoiled Brat SpoiledBrat during Audrey's absence.
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** Many fans feel Nathalie's HeelFaceTurn is weak and hollow, mostly because the only reason why she stops working for Gabriel TheDragon for her own benefit, not because she feels remorse for her actions. Before her condition worsens due to the side effect of using broken miraculous, Nathalie does absolutely nothing meaningful aside from criticizing Gabriel's behavior and briefly commanding Adrien's amok. On-screen, Nathalie is mostly seen weeping over Emilie's video of her being unable to do something to stop Gabriel.

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** Many fans feel Nathalie's HeelFaceTurn is weak and hollow, mostly because the only reason why she stops working for Gabriel TheDragon because is no longer fit for her own benefit, not because she feels remorse for her actions. Before her condition worsens due to the side effect of using broken miraculous, Nathalie does absolutely nothing meaningful aside from criticizing Gabriel's behavior and briefly commanding Adrien's amok. On-screen, Nathalie is mostly seen weeping over Emilie's video of her being unable to do something to stop Gabriel.
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* MoreInterestingAsAVillain:
** Inverted in Chloé. Although most of her fans didn't expect her to be an instant AllLovingHero on her "redemption arc", the majority of them like to make Chloé/Queen Bee a neutral AntiHero and {{Foil}} for Marinette/Ladybug in some Fanfiction [=AU=]s where she got a proper redemption arc to balance the dynamic on Miraculous Team. Most of Chloé fans hate the exaggeration of her bad attitude to cement her villainy status, as she never becomes an interesting villain on her own in Season 4 and Season 5 since most of them feels this exaggeration is only to hype Zoé as a "true Bee Miraculous holder".
** Fans were utterly disappointed over Félix's sudden HeelFaceTurn despite his committing many bad deeds out of spite toward the protagonist, such as betraying Ladybug and taking all Miraculouses to exchange for the Peacock miraculous from Gabriel, attempting to erase humanity to create his utopia, and stalking and kidnapping Kagami. In spite of his tragic past, he has done nothing to atone for his wrongdoing. What fans, especially his fans, would like to see is him staying as an AntiVillain on his own, without allying with either the protagonist or antagonist side.


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*{{Wangst}}:
** Many fans feel Nathalie's HeelFaceTurn is weak and hollow, mostly because the only reason why she stops working for Gabriel TheDragon for her own benefit, not because she feels remorse for her actions. Before her condition worsens due to the side effect of using broken miraculous, Nathalie does absolutely nothing meaningful aside from criticizing Gabriel's behavior and briefly commanding Adrien's amok. On-screen, Nathalie is mostly seen weeping over Emilie's video of her being unable to do something to stop Gabriel.
** Many consider Félix's DarkAndTroubledPast to be weak and uninspiring since ''Miraculous Ladybug'' already has a character who has a situation similar to his, with some of them feeling that the narrative doesn't excuse the bad attitude as being due to their bad parents. To elaborate, this stems from two main issues: 1. Most of his backstory in "Representation" is comes from Félix's perspective. While he seems honest in describing his father's maliciousness, since Félix is good at twisting his words, making fans feels he is still an UnreliableNarrator 2. Even if Colt indeed AbusiveParents, we still have no idea how vile Colt was since he was already long dead, making fans feel Colt's existence is just to excuse Gabriel's behavior as justifiable to take full control on Adrien due to out-of-love instead see Gabriel action's as emotionally abusive and manipulative father.
** Fans also see André Bourgeois's confession in "Collusion" as this. His unwillingness to be Mayor and give up his career of making a movie to please his horrid wife and bratty daughter is being considered to be a weak and pathetic FreudianExcuse and makes him look like a whiny ManChild. Him calling Chloé, his own biological daughter as "heartless", making André even more unsympathetic due to his refusal to realize her worsening attitude is comes from his parenting, since he is the one who solely raised Chloé into a Spoiled Brat during Audrey's absence.
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** Chloé/Marinette has a surprisingly massive following due to their similarities. Many fics turning them into lovers and even the ones that don't are very offering of plenty of teases between them. Let's not forget in canon how Chloe can't seem to prevent herself from touching [[https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/lady-bug/images/9/91/Kung_Food_075.png/revision/latest?cb=20200406201452 Marinette's]] [[https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/lady-bug/images/9/97/Animaestro_141.png/revision/latest?cb=20200418221529 boobs.]]

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** Chloé/Marinette has a surprisingly massive following due to their similarities. Many fics turning them into lovers and even the ones that don't are very offering of plenty of teases between them. Let's not forget in canon how Chloe Chloé can't seem to prevent herself from touching [[https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/lady-bug/images/9/91/Kung_Food_075.png/revision/latest?cb=20200406201452 Marinette's]] [[https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/lady-bug/images/9/97/Animaestro_141.png/revision/latest?cb=20200418221529 boobs.]]
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* FoeYayShipping:
** Chloé/Marinette has a surprisingly massive following due to their similarities. Many fics turning them into lovers and even the ones that don't are very offering of plenty of teases between them. Let's not forget in canon how Chloe can't seem to prevent herself from touching [[https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/lady-bug/images/9/91/Kung_Food_075.png/revision/latest?cb=20200406201452 Marinette's]] [[https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/lady-bug/images/9/97/Animaestro_141.png/revision/latest?cb=20200418221529 boobs.]]
** ConsummateLiar Lila is introduced at the very end of Season 1, and is called out by Marinette's alter-ego Ladybug, causing her [[MonsterOfTheWeek akumatization]]. While Ladybug eventually apologizes for embarrassing her, Lila refuses to forgive her, then [[GreenRooming disappears for almost an entire season with little acknowledgement]]. As a result, the fandom had two and half years to speculate on what Marinette and Lila's dynamic would be like, as Lila hadn't met Marinette yet, and so [[HatesMySecretIdentity Lila could hate Ladybug but love Marinette]]. Common plots include Marinette setting out to [[LoveRedeems stop Lila from lying]] by befriending her without Ladybug's baggage and the two falling in love, or Lila trying to manipulate Marinette (either because she knows she's Ladybug, or just to mess with her) and [[InLoveWithTheMark falling in love with her along the way]]. While Season 3 firmly establishes that [[KarmaHoudini Lila is still getting away with her lies]], and she and Marinette hate each other independent of Ladybug's actions in Season 1, the ship still has a following, especially with the [[https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/lady-bug/images/2/28/Chameleon_149.png/revision/latest?cb=20200223231523 physical antagonism between the two]] and the implication that [[spoiler:Lila will become the next Butterfly supervillain]].
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* CommonKnowledge: A lot of people mistakenly refer to the villains created by Hawk Moth as "Akumas". The Akumas are the magic butterflies Hawk Moth uses to turn his victims into supervillains, which in turn are called "Akumatized villains" or simply "villains".
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* {{Squick}}: Théo Barbot's infatuation with Ladybug can fall into this due to her being visibly in her mid-teens and him seemingly in his early-twenties. And even if you assume that people aren't supposed to notice the heroes' ages due to the magic of the Miraculous, the fact that [[https://78.media.tumblr.com/9391c581587f172f1306d5d161a6e9e0/tumblr_inline_o3h5phR5ln1sous9g_500.png he's also been linked]] to the similarly-aged Mireille raises some questions. Eventually, WordOfGod [[https://twitter.com/eh73881870/status/1237463977057308672 confirmed]] that he was around 16-18, lessening this trope.

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* {{Squick}}: Théo Barbot's infatuation with Ladybug can fall into this due to her being visibly in her mid-teens and him seemingly in his early-twenties. And even if you assume that people aren't supposed to notice the heroes' ages due to the magic of the Miraculous, the fact that [[https://78.media.tumblr.com/9391c581587f172f1306d5d161a6e9e0/tumblr_inline_o3h5phR5ln1sous9g_500.png he's also been linked]] to the similarly-aged Mireille raises some questions. Eventually, [[FandomSpecificPlot Fanfic writers would resolve this issue]] by either having Théo be unaware of Ladybug's age due to said magic and ditching his crush as soon as he learns it or having him be YoungerThanTheyLook. WordOfGod eventually [[https://twitter.com/eh73881870/status/1237463977057308672 confirmed]] the latter by saying that he was around 16-18, lessening this trope.
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* VanillaProtagonist: The protagonist Marinette is a normal CuteClumsyGirl who has a fairly good life, and even her worst problems (being picked on by the school's AlphaBitch, being unable to confess her feelings to a boy) are not that bad compared to other troubled characters, like the deuteragonist Adrien (BrokenAce with a sad and lonely backstory, a MissingMom, and an abusive father who is secretly the main supervillain of the show), or AlphaBitch Chloé (who has terrible parents, wants to be loved by her abusive mother, and pre-season 4 Chloé also has HiddenDepths and has proven that she can be a hero, if still a very flawed AntiHero).
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* VanillaProtagonist: The protagonist Marinette is a normal CuteClumsyGirl who has a fairly good life, and even her worst problems (being picked on by the school's AlphaBitch, being unable to confess her feelings to a boy) are not that bad compared to other troubled characters, like the deuteragonist Adrien (BrokenAce with a sad and lonely backstory, a MissingMom, and an abusive father who is secretly the main supervillain of the show), or AlphaBitch Chloé (who has terrible parents, wants to be loved by her abusive mother, and pre-season 4 Chloé also has HiddenDepths and has proven that she can be a hero, if still a very flawed AntiHero).
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** The magic potions that were introduced in the second season since even though 7 of them are shown, only the powers of 3 were shown (water, ice and space), this is especially painful since after the maximum loss of all of them The Miraculous at the end of season 4, the potions would serve to give the heroes some advantage

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** The magic potions that were introduced in the second season since even season. Even though 7 of them are shown, only the powers of 3 were shown (water, ice and space), this space). This is especially painful since after the maximum loss of all of them The the Miraculous at the end of season 4, the potions would could theoretically serve to give the heroes some advantageadvantage.
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* EvilIsSexy: Between the number of relatively attractive people that get Akumatized and the fact that a number of Akuma outfits involve skin-tight bodysuits, plenty of akumatized villains have gotten this reaction from fans.
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** Fans also feel that the constant addition of new Miraculous Heroes as the show goes on is starting to be a bit too much. Season 2 started this trend with the introductions of Alya/Rena Rouge, Nino/Carapace, Chloé/Queen Bee. There wasn't much fuss over it as all four were major supporting characters and the episodes were spaced out enough for some breathing room, and it helped that they were later balanced out by an additional Miraculous wielder on the villains' side, with Nathalie becoming Mayura at the end of the season. Chloé in particular, had an arc focused on her and her backstory so her being accepted as a new hero in ''Maledictator'' felt meaningful. Season 3 introduced five more with Luka/Viperion, Kagami/Ryuko, Max/Pegasus, Alix/Bunnix, and Kim/King Monkey. It wasn't too bad here, although Party Crasher was considered to be a very weak episode. Season 4 would be when fans would start to put their foot down as no more than eight new heroes were introduced, with half of them debuting in the same episode and not even having time for transformation sequences to boot. Zoé is also considered a sour spot as she automatically becomes a hero one episode after her debut episode despite other characters being around for seasons longer.

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** Fans also feel that the constant addition of new Miraculous Heroes as the show goes on is starting to be a bit too much. Season 2 started this trend with the introductions of Alya/Rena Rouge, Nino/Carapace, and Chloé/Queen Bee. There wasn't much fuss over it as all four three were major supporting characters and the episodes were spaced out enough for some breathing room, and it helped that they were later balanced out by an additional Miraculous wielder on the villains' side, with Nathalie becoming Mayura at the end of the season. Chloé in particular, had an arc focused on her and her backstory so her being accepted as a new hero in ''Maledictator'' felt meaningful. Season 3 introduced five more with Luka/Viperion, Kagami/Ryuko, Max/Pegasus, Alix/Bunnix, and Kim/King Monkey. It wasn't too bad here, although Party Crasher was considered to be a very weak episode. Season 4 would be when fans would start to put their foot down as no more than eight new heroes were introduced, with half of them debuting in the same episode and not even having time for transformation sequences to boot. Zoé is also considered a sour spot as she automatically becomes a hero one episode after her debut episode despite other characters being around for seasons longer.

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** the magic potions that were introduced in the second season since even though 7 of them are shown, only the powers of 3 were shown (water, ice and space), this is especially painful since after the maximum loss of all of them The Miraculous at the end of season 4, the potions would serve to give the heroes some advantage

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** the magic potions that were introduced in the second season since even though 7 of them are shown, only the powers of 3 were shown (water, ice and space), this is especially painful since after the maximum loss of all of them The Miraculous at the end of season 4, the potions would serve to give the heroes some advantage
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** [[spoiler:Those who wished to see an akumatized Marinette for so long would finally get their wish in "Miraculous Paris", though she's still good since she was akumatized (or rather kamikotized) by a heroic and alternative version of Gabriel]].

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** [[spoiler:Those Those who wished to see an akumatized [[spoiler:an akumatized]] Marinette for so long would finally get their wish in "Miraculous Paris", though [[spoiler:though she's still good since she was akumatized (or rather kamikotized) by a heroic and alternative version of Gabriel]].Gabriel]].
*** Likewise, in the same special, after five seasons of always being used for evil, it's satisfying to finally see the Butterfly Miraculous being used for good.

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** Kagami Tsurugi.

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* UnnecessaryMakeover: Shadybug's [[spoiler:GoodMakeover]] is often seen as a downgrade from her original design, which had a cuter hairstyle and more design elements that contrasted her from Ladybug. Her makeover is essentially a less cohesive version of Ladybug's outfit.
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** Due to being the evil versions of the protagonists, it didn't take long for people to ship Shadowbug and Claw Noir as a kind of OutlawCouple, although many previews suggest that their relationship is tense, despite being allies, so it is ambiguous that both will remain when the episode premieres.

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** Due to being the evil versions of the protagonists, it didn't take long for people to ship Shadowbug Shadybug and Claw Noir as a kind of OutlawCouple, although many previews suggest that their relationship is tense, despite being allies, so it is ambiguous that both will remain when the episode premieres.
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* CatharsisFactor: After years of them dancing around it, people were happy when the [[UnrequitedLoveSwitcheroo love square swap finally happened]]. Ladybug gaining a crush on Cat Noir and him losing his crush on her has been particularly well-received due to Cat's fans not liking how rude Ladybug had become to him as the show went on and Ladybug‘s fans not liking how Cat repeatedly pursued her despite being told she was not interested.

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After years of them dancing around it, people were happy when the [[UnrequitedLoveSwitcheroo love square swap finally happened]]. Ladybug gaining a crush on Cat Noir and him losing his crush on her has been particularly well-received due to Cat's fans not liking how rude Ladybug had become to him as the show went on and Ladybug‘s fans not liking how Cat repeatedly pursued her despite being told she was not interested.interested.
** [[spoiler:Those who wished to see an akumatized Marinette for so long would finally get their wish in "Miraculous Paris", though she's still good since she was akumatized (or rather kamikotized) by a heroic and alternative version of Gabriel]].
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** The show is very popular in Mexico, to the point that Canal 5 broadcast the show in a time slot before ''WesternAnimation/SpongeBobSquarePants'', and ''WesternAnimation/ElChavoAnimado'' on weekday afternoons, [[note]]Except on the Tuesdays and Thursdays slots recently where it got replaced with ''WesternAnimation/SonicBoom''.[[/note]] official and unofficial merchandising relating to ''Miraculous'' is also very big in the country, and on the same level as ''Mario'', and ''PAW Patrol''.

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** The show is very popular in Mexico, to the point that Canal 5 broadcast the show in a time slot before ''WesternAnimation/SpongeBobSquarePants'', and ''WesternAnimation/ElChavoAnimado'' on weekday afternoons, [[note]]Except afternoons,[[note]]Except on the Tuesdays and Thursdays slots recently where it got replaced with ''WesternAnimation/SonicBoom''.[[/note]] official and unofficial merchandising relating to ''Miraculous'' is also very big in the country, and on the same level as ''Mario'', ''Super Mario'', and ''PAW Patrol''.
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** The show is very popular in Mexico, to the point that Canal 5 broadcast the show in a time slot before ''WesternAnimation/SpongeBobSquarePants'', and ''WesternAnimation/ElChavoAnimado'' on weekday afternoons, [[note]]Except on the Tuesdays and Thursdays slots recently where it got replaced with ''WesternAnimation/SonicBoom''[[/note]]official and unofficial merchandising relating to ''Miraculous'' is also very big, and on the same level as ''Mario'', and ''PAW Patrol''.

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** The show is very popular in Mexico, to the point that Canal 5 broadcast the show in a time slot before ''WesternAnimation/SpongeBobSquarePants'', and ''WesternAnimation/ElChavoAnimado'' on weekday afternoons, [[note]]Except on the Tuesdays and Thursdays slots recently where it got replaced with ''WesternAnimation/SonicBoom''[[/note]]official ''WesternAnimation/SonicBoom''.[[/note]] official and unofficial merchandising relating to ''Miraculous'' is also very big, big in the country, and on the same level as ''Mario'', and ''PAW Patrol''.
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** The show is very popular in Mexico, to the point that Canal 5 broadcast the show in a time slot before ''WesternAnimation/SpongeBobSquarePants'', and ''WesternAnimation/ElChavoAnimado'' on weekday afternoons (except on the Tuesdays and Thursdays slots recently where it got replaced with ''WesternAnimation/SonicBoom'').

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** The show is very popular in Mexico, to the point that Canal 5 broadcast the show in a time slot before ''WesternAnimation/SpongeBobSquarePants'', and ''WesternAnimation/ElChavoAnimado'' on weekday afternoons (except afternoons, [[note]]Except on the Tuesdays and Thursdays slots recently where it got replaced with ''WesternAnimation/SonicBoom'').''WesternAnimation/SonicBoom''[[/note]]official and unofficial merchandising relating to ''Miraculous'' is also very big, and on the same level as ''Mario'', and ''PAW Patrol''.

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* PreemptiveShipping: Concept arts for the character Volpina/Lila released months ahead of her actual debut in the show at the end of Season 1, spurring a lot of {{Fanon}} that depicted her as a new superheroine who would be helping out the established heroes and [[LesYay becoming a rival to Cat Noir/Adrien for Ladybug/Marinette's affections]]. None of this would come to be. Lila eventually turned out to be a HateSink villain who despised Ladybug, chased after Adrien for fame, and bullied Marinette, all of which combined to make the Lila/Marinette ship relatively small.

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Concept arts for the character Volpina/Lila released months ahead of her actual debut in the show at the end of Season 1, spurring a lot of {{Fanon}} that depicted her as a new superheroine who would be helping out the established heroes and [[LesYay becoming a rival to Cat Noir/Adrien for Ladybug/Marinette's affections]]. None of this would come to be. Lila eventually turned out to be a HateSink villain who despised Ladybug, chased after Adrien for fame, and bullied Marinette, all of which combined to make the Lila/Marinette ship relatively small.
** Due to being the evil versions of the protagonists, it didn't take long for people to ship Shadowbug and Claw Noir as a kind of OutlawCouple, although many previews suggest that their relationship is tense, despite being allies, so it is ambiguous that both will remain when the episode premieres.

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