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* TheyCopiedItSoItSucks: In general, this and its previous 'big Marvel relaunch' ''ComicBook/MarvelLegacy'', is clearly inspired by ''ComicBook/DCRebirth'', in that its about stepping away from the drastic changes to bring back status quos and old characters. A big problem with this, however, is that Rebirth ''worked'' because DC at the time prior were really ''that bad''[[note]]among their problems, they'd had a line-wide reboot that decimated their continuity, traditionally light characters had became DarkerAndEdgier, franchises defined by their LegacyCharacter incarnations were demoted to a single generation, and core aspects of their universe, such as the ComicBook/JusticeSocietyOfAmerica, were removed from continuity[[/note]], and Rebirth was bringing back ''fundamental'' aspects of DC's universe that were missing (IE, legacy characters, history, continuity, tone, etc), rather than just getting rid of or demoting new characters in favour of returning the old. Since Marvel ''didn't'' have anything big missing from their universe (besides the Fantastic Four), ''A Fresh Start'' and ''Legacy'' seem to just be giving [[ShooOutTheNewGuy the newer diverse legacy heroes the boot]], who seem to have been used as a scapegoat, without doing anything to combat the ''actual'' causes of their sales problems.
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** ''Finally'' putting the X-Men back into the limelight after ''years'' of them being shafted into a DorkAge solely because of Creator/TwentiethCenturyFox holding their movie rights. Now that Disney bought out the company, thus gaining their company's rights, the X-Men have promptly returned as a pillar of Marvel. To exemplify this, they've gotten the famed Creator/JonathanHickman to relaunch the ''[[ComicBook/JonathanHickmansXMen X-Men]]'' with at least two major storylines that will redefine their place in the Marvel Universe.

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** ''Finally'' putting the X-Men back into the limelight after ''years'' of them being shafted into a DorkAge solely because of Creator/TwentiethCenturyFox holding their movie rights. Now that Disney bought out the company, thus gaining their company's rights, the X-Men have promptly returned as a pillar of Marvel. To exemplify this, they've gotten the famed Creator/JonathanHickman to relaunch the ''[[ComicBook/JonathanHickmansXMen X-Men]]'' with at least two major storylines that will redefine their place in the Marvel Universe.Universe, followed by a relaunch of brand new X-titles that start fresh as opposed to being in a constant state of stagnation. In fact, many were glad that Hickman convinced Marvel to cancel all ongoing ''X-Men'' titles (including the tepidly-received ''ComicBook/UncannyXMen2018'') in favor of his relaunch, which will "[[SoftReboot reboot]]" the X-Men into what is hoped to be a new era of greatness.
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** Though it's only a one-shot, ''ComicBook/PowerPack'' getting revisited, by their original creators no less, was a definite surprise.
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We don't know yet. The yearly relaunches were generally in the Autumn, marketing for them starting in the Summer.


* AndYouThoughtItWouldFail: There was a CollectiveGroan by much of the community at Marvel doing ''another'' relaunch just seven months after their [[ComicBook/MarvelLegacy last]], and it was thought that it would only continue their DorkAge they had been stuck in for a good portion of the '10s. Fast-forward a year later, and the general reception is that ''Fresh Start'' was what had finally gotten Marvel ''out'' of the DorkAge, with new creative teams, new ideas, new stories and generally being more in-tune with their actual audience, have reinvigorated the Marvel brand. It helps that they've stopped their CharacterShilling of the Inhumans at the expense of the X-Men, while putting mutants back as a core pillar of the Marvel Universe. Perhaps the most telling sign of their success? No 2019 relaunch.

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* AndYouThoughtItWouldFail: There was a CollectiveGroan by much of the community at Marvel doing ''another'' relaunch just seven months after their [[ComicBook/MarvelLegacy last]], and it was thought that it would only continue their DorkAge they had been stuck in for a good portion of the '10s. Fast-forward a year later, and the general reception is that ''Fresh Start'' was what had finally gotten Marvel ''out'' of the DorkAge, with new creative teams, new ideas, new stories and generally being more in-tune with their actual audience, have reinvigorated the Marvel brand. It helps that they've stopped their CharacterShilling of the Inhumans at the expense of the X-Men, while putting mutants back as a core pillar of the Marvel Universe. Perhaps the most telling sign of their success? No 2019 relaunch.
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* AndYouThoughtItWouldFail: There was a CollectiveGroan by much of the community at Marvel doing ''another'' relaunch just seven months after their [[ComicBook/MarvelLegacy last]], and it was thought that it would only continue their DorkAge they had been stuck in for a good portion of the '10s. Fast-forward a year later, and the general reception is that ''Fresh Start'' was what had finally gotten Marvel ''out'' of the DorkAge, with new creative teams, new ideas, new stories and generally being more in-tune with their actual audience, have reinvigorated the Marvel brand. It helps that they've stopped their CharacterShilling of the Inhumans at the expense of the X-Men, while putting mutants back as a core pillar of the Marvel Universe.

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* AndYouThoughtItWouldFail: There was a CollectiveGroan by much of the community at Marvel doing ''another'' relaunch just seven months after their [[ComicBook/MarvelLegacy last]], and it was thought that it would only continue their DorkAge they had been stuck in for a good portion of the '10s. Fast-forward a year later, and the general reception is that ''Fresh Start'' was what had finally gotten Marvel ''out'' of the DorkAge, with new creative teams, new ideas, new stories and generally being more in-tune with their actual audience, have reinvigorated the Marvel brand. It helps that they've stopped their CharacterShilling of the Inhumans at the expense of the X-Men, while putting mutants back as a core pillar of the Marvel Universe. Perhaps the most telling sign of their success? No 2019 relaunch.
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** The ending of ''Amazing Spider-Man #1'' features [[spoiler:a BigDamnKiss between Peter and MJ on the very last page, hinting that they might get back together, along with the near-explicit addressing of One More Day given how much it's referenced in that same issue. Issue 2 confirms, that yes, they are a couple again.]]

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** The ending of ''Amazing Spider-Man #1'' features [[spoiler:a BigDamnKiss [[spoiler:TheBigDamnKiss between Peter and MJ on the very last page, hinting that they might get back together, along with the near-explicit addressing of One More Day given how much it's referenced in that same issue. Issue 2 confirms, that yes, they are a couple again.]]
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* AndYouThoughtItWouldFail: There was a CollectiveGroan by much of the community at Marvel doing ''another'' relaunch just seven months after their [[ComicBook/MarvelLegacy last]], and it was thought that it would only continue their DorkAge they had been stuck in for a good portion of the '10s. Fast-forward a year later, and the general reception is that ''Fresh Start'' was what had finally gotten Marvel ''out'' of the DorkAge, with new creative teams, new ideas, new stories and generally being more in-tune with their actual audience, have reinvigorated the Marvel brand. It helps that they've stopped their CharacterShilling of the Inhumans at the expense of the X-Men, while putting mutants back as a core pillar of the Marvel Universe.
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** ''Finally'' putting the X-Men back into the limelight after ''years'' of them being shafted into a DorkAge solely because of Creator/TwentiethCenturyFox holding their movie rights. Now that Disney bought out back the company, thus gaining their company's rights, the X-Men have promptly returned as a pillar of Marvel. To exemplify this, they've gotten the famed Creator/JonathanHickman to relaunch the ''[[ComicBook/JonathanHickmansXMen X-Men]]'' with at least two major storylines that will redefine their place in the Marvel Universe.

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** ''Finally'' putting the X-Men back into the limelight after ''years'' of them being shafted into a DorkAge solely because of Creator/TwentiethCenturyFox holding their movie rights. Now that Disney bought out back the company, thus gaining their company's rights, the X-Men have promptly returned as a pillar of Marvel. To exemplify this, they've gotten the famed Creator/JonathanHickman to relaunch the ''[[ComicBook/JonathanHickmansXMen X-Men]]'' with at least two major storylines that will redefine their place in the Marvel Universe.
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** ''Finally'' putting the X-Men back into the limelight after ''years'' of them being shafted into a DorkAge solely because of Creator/TwentiethCenturyFox holding their movie rights. Now that Disney bought back the company's rights, the X-Men have promptly returned as a pillar of Marvel. To exemplify this, they've gotten the famed Creator/JonathanHickman to relaunch the ''[[ComicBook/JonathanHickmansXMen X-Men]]'' with at least two major storylines that will redefine their place in the Marvel Universe.

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** ''Finally'' putting the X-Men back into the limelight after ''years'' of them being shafted into a DorkAge solely because of Creator/TwentiethCenturyFox holding their movie rights. Now that Disney bought out back the company, thus gaining their company's rights, the X-Men have promptly returned as a pillar of Marvel. To exemplify this, they've gotten the famed Creator/JonathanHickman to relaunch the ''[[ComicBook/JonathanHickmansXMen X-Men]]'' with at least two major storylines that will redefine their place in the Marvel Universe.
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** ''Finally'' putting the X-Men back into the limelight after ''years'' of them being shafted into a DorkAge solely because of Creator/TwentiethCenturyFox holding their movie rights. Now that Disney bought out the company, thus gaining their rights, the X-Men have promptly returned as a pillar of Marvel. To exemplify this, they've gotten the famed Creator/JonathanHickman to relaunch the ''[[ComicBook/JonathanHickmansXMen X-Men]]'' with at least two major storylines that will redefine their place in the Marvel Universe.

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** ''Finally'' putting the X-Men back into the limelight after ''years'' of them being shafted into a DorkAge solely because of Creator/TwentiethCenturyFox holding their movie rights. Now that Disney bought out back the company, thus gaining their company's rights, the X-Men have promptly returned as a pillar of Marvel. To exemplify this, they've gotten the famed Creator/JonathanHickman to relaunch the ''[[ComicBook/JonathanHickmansXMen X-Men]]'' with at least two major storylines that will redefine their place in the Marvel Universe.
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** The announcement that the ''Young Avengers'' team book would finally return after five years since dissolution is this for fans who missed the team.

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** The announcement that the ''Young Avengers'' ''ComicBook/YoungAvengers'' team book would finally return after five years since dissolution is this for fans who missed the team.
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*** And by "slowing down" people apparently mean "killing off the line completelly" as, outside of the only tangentially related titles like Ms. Marvel or Moon Girl, the *only* Inhuman book this initiative was ''Death of the Inhumans''.

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*** And by "slowing down" people apparently mean "killing off the line completelly" completely" as, outside of the only tangentially related titles like Ms. Marvel or Moon Girl, the *only* Inhuman book this initiative was ''Death of the Inhumans''.
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** After several years on ice due to Marvel's feud with Creator/TwentiethCenturyFox, the Fantastic Four are finally making their return to the Marvel Universe.

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** After several years on ice due to Marvel's movie rights feud with Creator/TwentiethCenturyFox, the Fantastic Four are finally making their return to the Marvel Universe.
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There is no sign of anything else. Also if the yearly initiatives continue we're close to the end of this.


*** On that note, if it's any sign, ''Death of the Inhumans'' intends to ''completely'' reverse the roles and turn the Inhumans into a dying race instead of the X-Men.

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*** On that note, if it's any sign, And by "slowing down" people apparently mean "killing off the line completelly" as, outside of the only tangentially related titles like Ms. Marvel or Moon Girl, the *only* Inhuman book this initiative was ''Death of the Inhumans'' intends to ''completely'' reverse the roles and turn the Inhumans into a dying race instead of the X-Men.Inhumans''.
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** ''Finally'' putting the X-Men back into the limelight after ''years'' of them being shafted into a DorkAge solely because of Creator/TwentiethCenturyFox holding their movie rights. Now that Disney bought out the company, thus gaining their rights, the X-Men have promptly returned as a pillar of Marvel. To exemplify this, they've gotten the famed Creator/JonathanHickman to relaunch the ''[[ComicBook/JonathanHickmansXMen X-Men]]'' with at least two major storylines that will redefine their place in the Marvel Universe.
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** The shilling of Comicbook/TheInhumans seems to be slowing down, likely to placate the large {{Hatedom}} the franchise amassed in recent years due to the way Marvel was blatantly trying to make them into the new X-Men.

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** The shilling of Comicbook/TheInhumans seems to be slowing down, likely to placate the large {{Hatedom}} haters the franchise amassed in recent years due to the way Marvel was blatantly trying to make them into the new X-Men.
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** How many people thought ''ComicBook/BlackCat'' was ever going to headline her own ongoing?
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** Even if they're only One-Shots, the revivals of classic titles ''Love Romances'', ''Gunhawks'', and ''Ziggy Pig Silly Seal'' were a surprise.
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* WinTheCrowd: As noted, ''A Fresh Start'' had an uphill battle due to being ''another'' relaunch that reset the numbering (which has been a major cause of Marvel's problems with fans, as many found things became too confusing), and the appearance that they were shunting the 'diverse' heroes. However, the runs that started from the relaunch have been well-received (in particular, Nick Spencer's ''Amazing Spider-Man'' has been massively redeeming both the book ''and'' Spencer himself), while the 'diverse' heroes have been saved from obscurity either by having them gain new books (Ironheart, Iceman, and UnstoppableWasp, the latter two largely because of their strong trade sales), or grouped into team books (such as the new ''ComicBook/WestCoastAvengers''), thus mitigating the concerns that Marvel were going to pander to the fans who had been calling for those characters' heads. As a result, overall things have been rather well-received despite the initial concerns.

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* WinTheCrowd: As noted, ''A Fresh Start'' had an uphill battle due to being ''another'' relaunch that reset the numbering (which has been a major cause of Marvel's problems with fans, as many found things became too confusing), and the appearance that they were shunting the 'diverse' heroes. However, the runs that started from the relaunch have been well-received (in particular, Nick Spencer's ''Amazing Spider-Man'' has been massively redeeming both the book ''and'' Spencer himself), while the 'diverse' heroes have been saved from obscurity either by having them gain new books (Ironheart, Iceman, and UnstoppableWasp, Unstoppable Wasp, the latter two largely because of their strong trade sales), or grouped into team books (such as the new ''ComicBook/WestCoastAvengers''), thus mitigating the concerns that Marvel were going to pander to the fans who had been calling for those characters' heads. As a result, overall things have been rather well-received despite the initial concerns.

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I don't see any reason to drag Champions into this; the two series are unrelated.


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** For the many people who hate ''ComicBook/{{Champions|2016}}'' as being the effective replacement to the more well-regarded ''ComicBook/YoungAvengers'', the announcement that the Young Avengers would finally return after five years since dissolution is this.

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** For the many people who hate ''ComicBook/{{Champions|2016}}'' as being the effective replacement to the more well-regarded ''ComicBook/YoungAvengers'', the The announcement that the Young Avengers ''Young Avengers'' team book would finally return after five years since dissolution is this.this for fans who missed the team.
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** Because the ''ComicBook/{{Champions|2016}}'' were made effectively to replace the ''ComicBook/YoungAvengers'' as the main traditional teenage super team of the Marvel Universe, many didn't seriously think the Young Avengers would actually return any time soon. Then at New York Comic-Con 2018, C.B. Cebulski confirmed that a new ''Young Avengers'' title is on the way in 2019, and that fans of the series will be ''very'' happy.
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** ''ComicBook/{{Domino|Marvel Comics}} hasn't headlined her own series since 2003, and is usually put in team books as opposed to being solo, making it look left-field. Though, the interest in her character spiking after ''Film/Deadpool2'' may have had something to do with it.

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** ''ComicBook/{{Domino|Marvel Comics}} Comics}}'' hasn't headlined her own series since 2003, and is usually put in team books as opposed to being solo, making it look left-field. Though, the interest in her character spiking after ''Film/Deadpool2'' may have had something to do with it.

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** ''ComicBook/DaughtersOfTheDragon'' had a short-lived six issue run from 2006 and never had ComicBook/MistyKnight or ComicBook/ColleenWing headlined together in a title again. So bringing back over a decade later, even as a digital exclusive, definitely came out of nowhere.

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** ''ComicBook/DaughtersOfTheDragon'' had a short-lived six issue run from 2006 and never had ComicBook/MistyKnight or ComicBook/ColleenWing headlined together in a title again. So bringing the series back over a decade later, even as a digital exclusive, definitely came out of nowhere.nowhere.
** ''ComicBook/{{Domino|Marvel Comics}} hasn't headlined her own series since 2003, and is usually put in team books as opposed to being solo, making it look left-field. Though, the interest in her character spiking after ''Film/Deadpool2'' may have had something to do with it.
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** ''ComicBook/DaughtersOfTheDragon'' had a short-lived six issue run from 2006 and never had ComicBook/MistyKnight or ComicBook/ColleenWing headlined together in a title again. So bringing back over a decade later, even as a digital exclusive, definitely came out of nowhere.

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** ''ComicBook/DaughtersOfTheDragon'' had a short-lived six issue run from 2006 and never had ComicBook/MistyKnight or ComicBook/ColleenWing headlined together in a title again. So bringing back over a decade later, even as a digital exclusive, definitely came out of nowhere.nowhere.
* WinTheCrowd: As noted, ''A Fresh Start'' had an uphill battle due to being ''another'' relaunch that reset the numbering (which has been a major cause of Marvel's problems with fans, as many found things became too confusing), and the appearance that they were shunting the 'diverse' heroes. However, the runs that started from the relaunch have been well-received (in particular, Nick Spencer's ''Amazing Spider-Man'' has been massively redeeming both the book ''and'' Spencer himself), while the 'diverse' heroes have been saved from obscurity either by having them gain new books (Ironheart, Iceman, and UnstoppableWasp, the latter two largely because of their strong trade sales), or grouped into team books (such as the new ''ComicBook/WestCoastAvengers''), thus mitigating the concerns that Marvel were going to pander to the fans who had been calling for those characters' heads. As a result, overall things have been rather well-received despite the initial concerns.
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** Marvel puts the heroes of old back into the limelight, after many fans complained that their newer replacements either didn't hold up or received too much CharacterShilling. However, there are also those [[ItsTheSameNowItSucks displeased with the return to the status quo]].[[note]] It is an oversimplification to solely credit the ''Fresh Start'' relaunch with all of the LegacyImplosion going on at Marvel. Thor Odinson's return was planned from the start. Steve Rogers and Sam Wilson returned to their respective ''Captain America'' and ''Falcon'' identities during ''Marvel Legacy'' as a result of ''Secret Empire'' and its aftermath. Tony Stark never died; he was just in a coma, readers were shown this from the start, and his absence was always meant to be a temporary situation. The only part of the LegacyImplosion that can strictly be credited to ''Fresh Start'' is Riri Williams and Amadeus Cho losing their solo books in favour of ''Tony Stark: Iron Man'' and ''ComicBook/ImmortalHulk'' (in that Marvel could have published two Iron Man titles and two Hulk titles at once in the ''Fresh Start'' era, but chose not to). [[/note]]

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** Marvel puts the heroes of old back into the limelight, after many fans complained that their newer replacements either didn't hold up or received too much CharacterShilling. However, there are also those [[ItsTheSameNowItSucks displeased with the return to the status quo]].[[note]] It is an oversimplification to solely credit the ''Fresh Start'' relaunch with all of the LegacyImplosion going on at Marvel. Thor Odinson's return was planned from the start. Steve Rogers and Sam Wilson returned to their respective ''Captain America'' and ''Falcon'' identities during ''Marvel Legacy'' as a result of ''Secret Empire'' and its aftermath. Tony Stark never died; he was just in a coma, readers were shown this from the start, and his absence was always meant to be a temporary situation. The only part of the LegacyImplosion that can strictly be credited to ''Fresh Start'' is Riri Williams and Amadeus Cho losing their solo books in favour of ''Tony Stark: Iron Man'' and ''ComicBook/ImmortalHulk'' (in that Marvel could have published two Iron Man titles and two Hulk titles at once in the ''Fresh Start'' era, but chose not to). And Riri got her solo book back only a few months into the relaunch. [[/note]]
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** The ending of ''Amazing Spider-Man #1'' features [[spoiler:a BigDamnKiss between Peter and MJ on the very last page, hinting that they might get back together, along with the near-explicit addressing of One More Day given how much it's referenced in that same issue.]]

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** The ending of ''Amazing Spider-Man #1'' features [[spoiler:a BigDamnKiss between Peter and MJ on the very last page, hinting that they might get back together, along with the near-explicit addressing of One More Day given how much it's referenced in that same issue. Issue 2 confirms, that yes, they are a couple again.]]

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** With Mary Jane seemingly MIA at the start of Nick Spencer's run and the revelations that there will be a new LoveInterest possibly for Peter, some fans are upset because that would mean that Peter and MJ ''don't'' get back together at the end of "Go Down Swinging", Dan Slott's final storyline and, thus, the [[ExecutiveMeddling Spider-Marriage's dissolution]] continues onto ''year 12''. This was somewhat mitigated when [[spoiler:the ending of the first issue suggests that Peter and Mary Jane are getting back together, with shippers hoping that this won't be another tease.]]
** There's also the fact that Peter was [[StatusQuoIsGod gradually shunted back into poverty]], [[WhyWeCantHaveNiceThings moved back into NY and now lives in a shoddy apartment]], and rooms with Robbie Robinson's son again, meaning that Peter is once again the "relatable loser". Many of Peter's fans didn't take that well.

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** With Mary Jane seemingly MIA at the start of Nick Spencer's run and the revelations that there will be a new LoveInterest possibly for Peter, some fans are upset because that would mean that Peter and MJ ''don't'' get back together at the end of "Go Down Swinging", Dan Slott's final storyline and, thus, the [[ExecutiveMeddling Spider-Marriage's dissolution]] continues onto ''year 12''. This was somewhat mitigated when [[spoiler:the ending of the first issue suggests that Peter and Mary Jane are getting back together, with shippers hoping that this won't be another tease.]]
** There's also the fact that Peter Parker was [[StatusQuoIsGod gradually shunted back into poverty]], [[WhyWeCantHaveNiceThings moved back into NY and now lives in a shoddy apartment]], and rooms with Robbie Robinson's son again, meaning that Peter is once again the "relatable loser". Many of Peter's fans didn't take that well.
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* MemeticLoser: Between Marvel getting the film rights to the ''ComicBook/XMen'' back due to Disney's acquisition of Fox, the increased focus on bringing said X-Men back, and the ''Death of the Inhumans'' event coming after ''years'' of CharacterShilling in an attempt to turn them in Marvel's mutants due to film rights, and not to mention the epic failure of the [[Series/{{Inhumans}} show starring them]] after it was supposed to have been a big movie, the ''Inhumans'' have become the official whipping boys of the some of the Marvel community.

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* MemeticLoser: Between Marvel getting the film rights to the ''ComicBook/XMen'' back due to Disney's acquisition of Fox, the increased focus on bringing said X-Men back, and the ''Death of the Inhumans'' event coming after ''years'' of CharacterShilling in an attempt to turn them in Marvel's mutants due to film rights, and not to mention the epic failure of the [[Series/{{Inhumans}} show starring them]] after it was supposed to have been a big movie, the ''Inhumans'' have become the official whipping boys of the some a very vocal portion of the Marvel community.
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The "whole" sounded like too big of an overstatement to me.


* MemeticLoser: Between Marvel getting the film rights to the ''ComicBook/XMen'' back due to Disney's acquisition of Fox, the increased focus on bringing said X-Men back, and the ''Death of the Inhumans'' event coming after ''years'' of CharacterShilling in an attempt to turn them in Marvel's mutants due to film rights, and not to mention the epic failure of the [[Series/{{Inhumans}} show starring them]] after it was supposed to have been a big movie, the ''Inhumans'' have become the official whipping boys of the entire Marvel community.

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* MemeticLoser: Between Marvel getting the film rights to the ''ComicBook/XMen'' back due to Disney's acquisition of Fox, the increased focus on bringing said X-Men back, and the ''Death of the Inhumans'' event coming after ''years'' of CharacterShilling in an attempt to turn them in Marvel's mutants due to film rights, and not to mention the epic failure of the [[Series/{{Inhumans}} show starring them]] after it was supposed to have been a big movie, the ''Inhumans'' have become the official whipping boys of the entire some of the Marvel community.
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* MemeticLoser: Between Marvel getting the film rights to the ''ComicBook/XMen'' back due to Disney's acquisition of Fox, the increased focus on bringing said X-Men back, and the ''Death of the Inhumans'' event coming after ''years'' of CharacterShilling in an attempt to turn them in Marvel's mutants due to film rights, and not to mention the epic failure of the [[Series/{{Inhumans}} show starring them]] after it was supposed to have been a big movie, the ''Inhumans'' have become the official whipping boys of the entire Marvel community.

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