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* ValuesResonance: On the other hand, this is the first movie to have a pro-lesbian storyline (and the two girls are explicitly in love). Not only that, but neither one dies (even though Manuela attempts to kill herself) or turns PsychoLesbian. In fact, it's very groundbreaking for its time.

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* ValuesResonance: On the other hand, this is the first movie to have a pro-lesbian storyline (and the two girls are explicitly in love). Not only that, but neither one dies [[BuryYourGays dies]] (even though Manuela attempts to kill herself) or turns PsychoLesbian. In fact, it's very groundbreaking for its time.

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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Many different interpretations of Fräulein von Bernburg exist to the vagueness of her feelings towards Manuela and the [[UnequalPairing age difference]] between the two. Does she really like Manuela or is she just letting her have a schoolgirl crush? If she does, is it pure romance or is it manipulative attraction to a student?

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Many different interpretations of Fräulein von Bernburg exist to the vagueness of her feelings towards Manuela and the [[UnequalPairing age difference]] between the two. Does she really like Manuela or is she just letting her have a schoolgirl crush? If she does, is it pure romance or is it manipulative attraction to a student?



* ValuesResonance: On the other hand, this is the first movie to have a pro-lesbian storyline (and the two girls are explicitly in love). Not only that, but neither one dies (even though Manuela attempts to kill herself) or turns PsychoLesbian. In fact, it's very groundbreaking for its time.

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* ValuesResonance: On the other hand, this is the first movie to have a pro-lesbian storyline (and the two girls are explicitly in love). Not only that, but neither one dies (even though Manuela attempts to kill herself) or turns PsychoLesbian. In fact, it's very groundbreaking for its time.time.

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* FunnyAneurysm: All the mentions of raising good soldiers and doing the Fatherland proud, obviously, but more emotionally evocatively is the fact that a reveille very similar to the Last Post is repeated throughout the film - this is the Memorial tune and a great show of passion and respect for the war dead in the UK, so it is painful to hear it used by Germans and could even truly anger Brits.

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* FunnyAneurysm: HarsherInHindsight: All the mentions of raising good soldiers and doing the Fatherland proud, obviously, but more emotionally evocatively is the fact that a reveille very similar to the Last Post is repeated throughout the film - this is the Memorial tune and a great show of passion and respect for the war dead in the UK, so it is painful to hear it used by Germans and could even truly anger Brits.

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* FairForItsDay: See ValuesDissonance and ValuesResonance.

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* %%* FairForItsDay: See ValuesDissonance and ValuesResonance.



* SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped: The aversion of ShowDontTell and its defense of lesbian romance would come across as {{Anvilicious}} if it was remade today, but for a film [[FairForItsDay from]] '''[[OlderThanTheyThink 1931]]'''...
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* HarsherInHindsight: All the mentions of raising good soldiers and doing the Fatherland proud, obviously, but more emotionally evocatively is the fact that a reveille very similar to the Last Post is repeated throughout the film - this is the Memorial tune and a great show of passion and respect for the war dead in the UK, so it is painful to hear it used by Germans and could even truly anger Brits.

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* HarsherInHindsight: FunnyAneurysm: All the mentions of raising good soldiers and doing the Fatherland proud, obviously, but more emotionally evocatively is the fact that a reveille very similar to the Last Post is repeated throughout the film - this is the Memorial tune and a great show of passion and respect for the war dead in the UK, so it is painful to hear it used by Germans and could even truly anger Brits.



* ValuesResonance: On the other hand, this is the first movie to have a pro-lesbian storyline (and the two girls are explicitly in love). Not only that, but neither one dies (even though Manuela attempts to kill herself) or turns PsychoLesbian. In fact, it could be considered to be ahead of its time.

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* ValuesResonance: On the other hand, this is the first movie to have a pro-lesbian storyline (and the two girls are explicitly in love). Not only that, but neither one dies (even though Manuela attempts to kill herself) or turns PsychoLesbian. In fact, it could be considered to be ahead of it's very groundbreaking for its time.
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* EveryoneIsBi: While Manuela is head-over-heels in love with Fräulein von Bernburg, she is far from the only girl attracted to her, and there is a scene where a girl, Mia von Wollin, and her friend read a love note written to her by another girl. However, some of the girls are attracted to men, Ilse von Westhagen sticking pictures of German actor Hans Albers to her locker and several girls looking at scantily-clad men in a magazine.
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* LesYay: Manuela has lots of this with her schoolmates, particularly in a scene after the play with Ilse, Ilse speaking to Manuela as she's leaning against a wall, faces centimetres away from each other.

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* LesYay: Manuela has lots of this with her schoolmates, particularly in a scene after the play with Ilse, Ilse speaking to von Westhagen, Ilse holding Manuela as she's leaning against a wall, faces centimetres away from each other.other as they quietly speak.
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* EveryoneIsBi: While Manuela is head-over-heels in love with Fräulein von Bernburg, she is far from the only girl attracted to her, and there is a scene where a girl, Mia von Wollin, and her friend read a love note written to her by another girl. However, some of the girls are attracted to men, Ilse von Westhagen sticking pictures of German actor Hans Albers to her locker and several girls looking at scantily-clad men in a magazine.


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* LesYay: Manuela has lots of this with her schoolmates, particularly in a scene after the play with Ilse, Ilse speaking to Manuela as she's leaning against a wall, faces centimetres away from each other.
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** Fräulein von Bernburg's kissing the foreheads of her students before they sleep. Meant as a motherly gesture of affection, or something less innocent?
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* EveryoneIsBi: Downplayed. A good number of the students display attraction to Fräulein von Bernburg and to a lesser extent, each other.
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* EnsembleDarkHorse: Manuela's friend Ilse has drawn some fans with her mischievous, dramatic personality. Some fans turned off with the StudentTeacherRomance ship Manuela with her instead.

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* EnsembleDarkHorse: Manuela's friend Ilse von Westhagen has drawn some fans with her mischievous, dramatic personality. Some fans turned off with the StudentTeacherRomance ship Manuela with her instead.
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* EveryoneIsBi: Downplayed. A good number of the students display attraction to Fräulein von Bernburg and to a lesser extent, each other.
* FairForItsDay: See ValuesDissonance and ValuesResonance.
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* EnsembleDarkHorse: Manuela's friend Ilse has drawn some fans with her mischievous, dramatic personality. Some fans turned off with the StudentTeacherRomance ship Manuela with her instead.

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* FairForItsDay: This is the first movie to have a pro-lesbian storyline (and the two girls are explicitly in love). Not only that, but neither one dies (even though Manuela attempts to kill herself) or turns PsychoLesbian. In fact, it could be considered to be ahead of its time.



* ValuesDissonance: The movie is about a romance between a fourteen year old and her teacher. It has implications of being requited on the teacher's part.

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* ValuesDissonance: The movie is about a romance between a fourteen year old and her teacher. It has implications of being requited on the teacher's part.part.
* ValuesResonance: On the other hand, this is the first movie to have a pro-lesbian storyline (and the two girls are explicitly in love). Not only that, but neither one dies (even though Manuela attempts to kill herself) or turns PsychoLesbian. In fact, it could be considered to be ahead of its time.
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No trope slashing.


* FairForItsDay[=/=]ValuesResonance: This is the first movie to have a pro-lesbian storyline (and the two girls are explicitly in love). Not only that, but neither one dies or turns PsychoLesbian. In fact, it could be considered to be ahead of its time.

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* FairForItsDay[=/=]ValuesResonance: FairForItsDay: This is the first movie to have a pro-lesbian storyline (and the two girls are explicitly in love). Not only that, but neither one dies (even though Manuela attempts to kill herself) or turns PsychoLesbian. In fact, it could be considered to be ahead of its time.
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* AdaptationDisplacement: The film is much better-known than the play.
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* SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped: The aversion of ShowDontTell and its defense of lesbian romance would come across as {{Anvilicious}} if it was remade today, but for a film [[FairForItsDay from]] '''[[OlderThanTheyThink 1931]]'''...

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* SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped: The aversion of ShowDontTell and its defense of lesbian romance would come across as {{Anvilicious}} if it was remade today, but for a film [[FairForItsDay from]] '''[[OlderThanTheyThink 1931]]'''...1931]]'''...
* ValuesDissonance: The movie is about a romance between a fourteen year old and her teacher. It has implications of being requited on the teacher's part.
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* HarsherInHindsight: All the mentions of raising good soldiers and doing the Fatherland proud, obviously, but more emotionally evocatively is the fact that a reveille very similar to the Last Post is repeated throughout the film - this is the Memorial tune and a great show of passion and respect for the war dead in the UK, so it is painful to hear it used by Germans and could even truly anger Brits.
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* SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped: The aversion of ShowDontTell and its defense of lesbian romance would come across as {{Anvilicious}} if it was remade today, but for a filmv[[FairForItsDay from]] '''[[OlderThanTheyThink 1931]]'''...

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* SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped: The aversion of ShowDontTell and its defense of lesbian romance would come across as {{Anvilicious}} if it was remade today, but for a filmv[[FairForItsDay film [[FairForItsDay from]] '''[[OlderThanTheyThink 1931]]'''...
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* FairForItsDay[=/=]ValuesResonance: This is the first movie to have a pro-lesbian storyline (and the two girls are explicitly in love). Not only that, but neither one dies or turns PsychoLesbian. In fact, it could be considered to be ahead of its time.

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* FairForItsDay[=/=]ValuesResonance: This is the first movie to have a pro-lesbian storyline (and the two girls are explicitly in love). Not only that, but neither one dies or turns PsychoLesbian. In fact, it could be considered to be ahead of its time.time.
* SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped: The aversion of ShowDontTell and its defense of lesbian romance would come across as {{Anvilicious}} if it was remade today, but for a filmv[[FairForItsDay from]] '''[[OlderThanTheyThink 1931]]'''...
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: Many different interpretations of Fräulein von Bernburg exist to the vagueness of her feelings towards Manuela and the [[UnequalPairing age difference]] between the two. Does she really like Manuela or is she just letting her have a schoolgirl crush? If she does, is it pure romance or is it manipulative attraction to a student?

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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Many different interpretations of Fräulein von Bernburg exist to the vagueness of her feelings towards Manuela and the [[UnequalPairing age difference]] between the two. Does she really like Manuela or is she just letting her have a schoolgirl crush? If she does, is it pure romance or is it manipulative attraction to a student?
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: Many different interpretations of Fräulein von Bernburg exist to the vagueness of her feelings towards Manuela and the [[UnequalPairing age difference]] between the two. Does she really like Manuela or is she just letting her have a schoolgirl crush? If she does, is it pure romance or is it manipulative attraction to a student?
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* FairForItsDay: This is the first movie to have a pro-lesbian storyline (and the two girls are explicitly in love). Not only that, but neither one dies or turns PsychoLesbian. In fact, it could be considered to be ahead of its time.

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* FairForItsDay: FairForItsDay[=/=]ValuesResonance: This is the first movie to have a pro-lesbian storyline (and the two girls are explicitly in love). Not only that, but neither one dies or turns PsychoLesbian. In fact, it could be considered to be ahead of its time.
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* FairForItsDay: This is the first movie to have a pro-lesbian storyline (and the two girls are explicitly in love). Not only that, but neither one dies or turns PsychoLesbian.

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* FairForItsDay: This is the first movie to have a pro-lesbian storyline (and the two girls are explicitly in love). Not only that, but neither one dies or turns PsychoLesbian. In fact, it could be considered to be ahead of its time.
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* FairForItsDay: This is the first movie to have a pro-lesbian storyline (and the two girls are explicitly in love). Not only that, but neither one dies or turns PsychoLesbian.

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