History YMMV / MadameWeb2024

--->'''Cassie:''' [[VerbalBackspace Well it wasn't so bad. Well obviously it was ''bad''. She died. But I grew up totally healthy. Death in childbirth is very rare.]]

** You all owe ''Film/TheMarvels|2023'' an apology![[labelnote:Explanation]]After Madame Web's [[BoxOfficeBomb disastrous opening]], fans of ''Film/TheMarvels2023'' were quick to say that the latter's box office doesn't look so bad in comparison.[[/labelnote]]

* DesignatedHero: Cassie is supposedly the main hero and her character is that she only cares about saving people. But when forced to save the three teenagers, [[spoiler:she acts very cold hearted and irritable towards them and at times ''outright abandons'' them- in one case, leaving them in the woods for three hours just to go ruffle through some notes. When she rescues them after the diner incident, the only thing she has to say to them is that they only care about themselves, [[{{Hypocrite}} never mind what she just did to them ten minutes earlier]].

* DesignatedHero: Cassie is supposedly the main hero and her character is that she only cares about saving people. But when forced to save the three teenagers, [[spoiler:she acts very cold hearted and irritable towards them and at times ''outright abandons'' them- in one case, leaving them in the woods for three hours just to go ruffle through some notes. When she rescues them after the diner incident, the only thing she has to say to them is that they only care about themselves, [[{{Hypocrite}} never mind what she just did to them ten minutes earlier]]. This is also on top of her stealing a taxi, and later, an ambulance]]. To be fair to her, she is also confused by visions that she doesn't understand, and her "ruffling through notes" was intended to help her find answers to the current situation.

* SpecialEffectFailure:
** Many viewers have pointed out that Ezekiel's lines are overdubbed, [[HongKongDub but very poorly]], as the lines frequently don't sync up to his mouth movements and sometimes even continue when his mouth isn't moving at all. While this would be forgivable if the movie's dialogue was originally in another language, the movie was entirely English to begin with. This suggests the use of ADR (a common trait of films that have undergone heavy rewrites), but due to the lack of FilmingForEasyDub, it becomes very evident.
** There's some very choppy editing in the final confrontation. Ezekiel bursts through the building roof and is standing right in front of Julia, ready to strike - then seconds later is next to Cassie, somehow unmasked.

** Many viewers have pointed out that Ezekiel's lines are overdubbed, [[HongKongDub but very poorly]], as the lines frequently don't sync up to his mouth movements and sometimes even continue when his mouth isn't moving at all. While this would be forgivable if the movie's dialogue was originally in another language, the movie was entirely English to begin with.

** Reducing the references to Richard Parker being some sort of spy or government agent like he was in the comics to a mere throwaway MythologyGag that only comics fans will even pick up on is a weird choice when you also make a key plot point of the movie the fact that Ezekiel Sims has murdered a government agent and hacked the NSA to take over their SinisterSuveillance capabilities to find the girls.

* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: Ben and Mary Parker's role in the movie comes down to just being {{fanservice}} made to give the story more connection to Spider-Man despite, once again, not having Spider-Man in it, although in this case the teasing becomes almost comically frustrating since neither character has any actual reason to be in the story, aside from Ben being Cassandra's coworker (a role that could've been played by anyone, as none of the main characters had any connection to Peter Parker's origin).

* FridgeBrilliance:
** In the comics, Cassandra was born unable to see or walk; here [[spoiler:her mother's expedition to the Amazon was to find a possible treatment, her efforts ensuring that her daughter was born healthy even if she doesn't live to see the girl grow up]].
** Ezekiel's character arc in the comics looks at how he sought the power of the spider to "help" others but became distracted by building up his own power base so that he ultimately never got around to actually ''helping'' anyone. This takes a darker spin on that idea when he acquires the power out of a vaguely explained idea that he wants to avoid going back to nothing, and extends to pursuing the future Spider-Women on the ''chance'' that they will kill him in the future. In the name of his own life, Ezekiel is fundamentally incapable of considering alternative options beyond killing people, where a true hero would be willing to take the risk in the name of saving innocents.
** Viewed the right way, each of the three Spider-Women depicted display some qualities of the three live-action Spider-Men:
*** Julia is a shy geek who can be seen as a reflecting of Creator/TobeyMaguire's Peter Parker before the spider-bite.
*** Mattie is more "in-your-face" and a bit more distant and troubled, much like how Creator/AndrewGarfield's Peter was more distant.
*** Anya's status as a technically illegal immigrant with no family reflects how the Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse version of Peter is [[spoiler:essentially a non-person after Strange's spell erased all knowledge of Peter Parker from the world]].

** "So, while my character in the movie may be able to see the future, I also can and I know what the future brings. I know that when you see ''Madame Web'' you're going to love it. In fact, I think you’re going to see it twice." [[labelnote:Explanation]]From a promo video that went memetic due to Creator/DakotaJohnson’s incredibly sensuous delivery, with some joking that Sony was attempting to tap into the "[[IllBeInMyBunk gooner demographic]]."[[/labelnote]]

* SugarWiki/FunnyMoments: After reading her mother's research on the Spider Tribe, and seeing Ezekiel's wall crawling, Cassie attempts to see if she has any wall crawling powers as well. She places her hands on the wall, the music builds dramatically, she jumps... and promptly slides down the wall. She tells the nearby cat that they ''won't'' share what happened with anyone.

** Viewed the right way, each of the three Spider-Women depicted display some qualities of the three live-action Spider-Men;
*** Julia is a shy geek who can be seen as a reflecting of Maguire's Peter Parker before the spider-bite.
*** Mattie is more "in-your-face" and a bit more distant and troubled, much like how Garfield's Peter was more distant.
*** Anya's status as a technically illegal immigrant with no family reflects how the Peter Parker of the Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse is [[spoiler:essentially a non-person after Strange's spell erased all knowledge of Peter Parker from the world]].

** Is Cassie a reluctant hero who's DarkAndTroubledPast makes her a socially awkward character who feels unable to really help Julia, Mattie and Anya, or a DesignatedHero who despite having a career that involves actively saving people chooses to repeatedly abandon three teenage girls despite being told that there is no one else that can protect them?

* DesignatedHero: As mentioned above, Cassie is supposedly the main hero and her character is that she only cares about saving people. But when forced to save the three teenagers, [[spoiler:she acts very cold hearted and irritable towards them and at times ''outright abandons'' them- in one case, leaving them in the woods for three hours just to go ruffle through some notes. When she rescues them after the diner incident, the only thing she has to say to them is that they only care about themselves, [[{{Hypocrite}} never mind what she just did to them ten minutes earlier]]. This is also on top of her stealing a taxi, and later, an ambulance]]. To be fair to her, she is also confused by visions that she doesn't understand, and her "ruffling through notes" was intended to help her find answers to the current situation.

* FunnyMoments: After reading her mother's research on the Spider Tribe, and seeing Ezekiel's wall crawling, Cassie attempts to see if she has any wall crawling powers as well. She places her hands on the wall, the music builds dramatically, she jumps... and promptly slides down the wall. She tells the nearby cat that they ''won't'' share what happened with anyone.

* DesignatedHero: Cassie is supposedly the main hero and her character is that she only cares about saving people. But when forced to save the three teenagers, [[spoiler:she acts very cold hearted and irritable towards them and at times ''outright abandons'' them- in one case, leaving them in the woods for three hours just to go ruffle through some notes. When she rescues them after the diner incident, the only thing she has to say to them is that they only care about themselves, [[{{Hypocrite}} never mind what she just did to them ten minutes earlier]]. This is also on top of her stealing a taxi, and later, an ambulance]]. To be fair to her, she is also confused by visions that she doesn't understand, and her "ruffling through notes" was intended to help her find answers to the current situation.

* TaintedByThePreview:
** The teaser received a ''very'' mixed reaction (putting it lightly) due to showcasing questionable-looking special effects, a convoluted story [[TrailersAlwaysSpoil that the trailer spells out for you]], and awkward/cliché dialogue, with numerous comparisons to the trailers of ''Film/{{Morbius|2022}}'' (which, incidentally, shares the exact same writers as this film), or one of the superhero shows produced by Creator/TheCW. Only a few hours after it was posted, the comments section for the trailer's Website/YouTube video was flooded by people mocking the trailer, primarily by jokingly praising [[BeamMeUpScotty a nonexistent line]] in it a la ''Morbius''.
** When the characters' superhero costumes were revealed, fan reaction to Mattie Franklin and Anya Corazon's costumes was receptive aside from the lack of eye lenses. Julia Carpenter's costume, however, was largely negatively received not only for the lack of eye lenses but for her chest emblem being overdetailed compared to the costumes worn by her comics counterpart, and the exposed cheeks making the mask look goofy.

** In the comics, Cassandra was born a cripple; here [[spoiler:her mother's expedition to the Amazon was to find a possible treatment, her efforts ensuring that her daughter was born healthy even if she doesn't live to see the girl grow up]].

* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter:
** Ben and Mary Parker's role in the movie comes down to just being {{fanservice}} made to give the story more connection to Spider-Man despite, once again, not having Spider-Man in it, although in this case the teasing becomes almost comically frustrating since neither character has any actual reason to be in the story, aside from Ben being Cassandra's coworker (a role that could've been played by anyone, as none of the main characters had any connection to Peter Parker's origin).
** Ezekiel as a dark Spider-Man variant could have been a truly creepy take on our favourite wall-crawler, with all of his famous powers now being used for evil - especially as Spider-Man's other famous EvilCounterpart, Venom, is firmly a good guy in the SSU. Even something as maligned as ''Film/SpiderMan3'' showed how unstoppable and scary Spidey could be when he was trying to kill Sandman, something that could have played out well here. Instead, aside from a few early lines about his wall-crawling ability, he's treated as a standard villain and with Webb's precognition cancelling out his strength and agility most of the time, not particularly difficult to defeat to the point of him becoming an unironic TheChewToy. Even his poisoning Cassie is shrugged off fairly quickly (although this can be attributed to her own physiology making her more resistant to the venom).

* DesignatedHero: Cassie is supposedly the main hero and her character is that she only cares about saving people. But when forced to save the three teenagers, [[spoiler:she acts very cold hearted and irritable towards them and at times ''outright abandons'' them- in one case, leaving them in the woods for three hours just to go ruffle through some notes. When she rescues them after the diner incident, the only thing she has to say to them is that they only care about themselves, [[{{Hypocrite}} never mind what she just did to them ten minutes earlier]]. This is also on top of her stealing a taxi, and later, an ambulance.]]

** Ezekiel as a dark Spider-Man variant could have been a truly creepy take on our favourite wall-crawler, with all of his famous powers now being used for evil - especially as Spider-Man's other famous EvilCounterpart, Venom, is firmly a good guy in the SSU. Even something as maligned as Film/SpiderMan3 showed how unstoppable and scary Spidey could be when he was trying to kill Sandman, something that could have played out well here. Instead, aside from a few early lines about his wall-crawling ability, he's treated as a standard villain and with Webb's precognition cancelling out his strength and agility most of the time, not particularly difficult to defeat to the point of him becoming an unironic TheChewToy. Even his poisoning Cassie is shrugged off fairly quickly.
* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: A major criticism about the movie is that, despite being the first live-action appearance of any Spider-Woman, never mind ''four'' of them, [[spoiler:only Cassandra has any powers and none them get their costumes in the story, nor is there any indication how this ever happens, or do the other three end up fighting the BigBad. Instead there's only a few clairvoyant visions promising the characters becoming costumed crime-fighters with powers [[SequelHook in the distant future]], for a hypothetical followup very few people believe will ever happen.]] This is made extremely baffling given much of the movie's marketing focused on [[spoiler:the characters in their costumes]], which raises the question: if the producers knew the audience ''wanted'' to see [[spoiler:the characters in costumes with powers]] and used misleading advertisements promising so, why not actually do so in the movie?

** Ben and Mary Parker's role in the movie comes down to just being {{fanservice}} made to give the story more connection to Spider-Man despite, once again, not having Spider-Man in it, although in this case the teasing becomes almost comically frustrating since neither character has any actual reason to be in the story, aside from Ben being Cassandra's coworker (a role that could've been played by anyone, as none of main characters had any connection to Peter Parker's origin).

** Ezekiel as a dark Spider-Man variant could have been a truly creepy take on our favourite wall-crawler, with all of his famous powers now being used for evil - especially as Spider-Man's other famous EvilCounterpart, Venom, is firmly a good guy in the SSU. Instead, aside from a few early lines about his wall-crawling ability, he's treated as a standard villain and with Webb's precognition cancelling out his strength and agility most of the time, not particularly difficult to defeat to the point of him becoming an unironic TheChewToy. Even his poisoning Cassie is shrugged off fairly quickly.

** Ezekiel as a dark Spider-Man variant could have been a truly creepy take on our favourite wall-crawler, with all of his famous powers now being used for evil - especially as Spider-Man's other famous EvilCounterpart, Venom, is firmly a good guy in the SSU. Instead, aside from a few early lines about his wall-crawling ability, he's treated as a standard villain and with Webb's precognition cancelling our his strength and agility most of the time, not particularly difficult to defeat. Even his poisoning Cassie is shrugged off fairly quickly.

* SpecialEffectFailure: Many viewers have pointed out that Ezekiel's lines are overdubbed, [[HongKongDub but very poorly]], as the lines frequently don't sync up to his mouth movements and sometimes even continue when his mouth isn't moving at all. While this would be forgivable if the movie's dialogue was originally in another language, the movie was entirely English to begin with.

* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: Ben and Mary Parker's role in the movie comes down to just being {{fanservice}} made to give the story more connection to Spider-Man despite, once again, not having Spider-Man in it, although in this case the teasing becomes almost comically frustrating since neither character has any actual reason to be in the story, aside from Ben being Cassandra's coworker (a role that could've been played by anyone, as none of main characters had any connection to Peter Parker's origin).

* CompleteMonster: Ezekiel Sims. He starts off by killing his colleagues on the expedition including Constance Webb, who was pregnant with Cassie and seeking out a very rare spider [[spoiler:in a desperate attempt to save her child]], just to take the spider and its powers for himself. Years later, having visions of being killed by three Spider-Women, poisons an FBI agent in order to force her into giving him the means to locate them, then leave her to die anyway. He also has his IT assistant use that technology and constantly threatens to kill her if she doesn't give her the results he wants. Even when they find out they were ordinary teenagers at that point in time, he hunts them down to murder them, endangering and/or killing everyone who tries to stop and even innocent bystanders. A far-cry from his much, MUCH more nobler counterpart, Ezekiel is a man fueled by greed and paranoia who would stop at nothing to prevent his fate.