Follow TV Tropes

Following

History YMMV / LudwigVanBeethoven

Go To

OR

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


** "Cavatina" from ''String Quartet No. 13'' sounds almost as if the music itself is weeping, with long notes blending into each other like raindrops. The two violins end up exchanging lines for a while before the lead violin is left alone, desperate, in a staccato ''Beklemmt''--choked--passage. Beethoven himself was so drained by the experience of writing it that he found it hard to write anything else for a while. This emotional experience led to its inclusion as the final track on the UsefulNotes/VoyagerGoldenRecord.

to:

** "Cavatina" from ''String Quartet No. 13'' sounds almost as if the music itself is weeping, with long notes blending into each other like raindrops. The two violins end up exchanging lines for a while before the lead violin is left alone, desperate, in a staccato ''Beklemmt''--choked--passage.''Beklemmt'' -- choked -- passage. Beethoven himself was so drained by the experience of writing it that he found it hard to write anything else for a while. This emotional experience led to its inclusion as the final track on the UsefulNotes/VoyagerGoldenRecord.



** The ''Große Fuge'', originally from ''String Quartet No. 13'', was profoundly different from anything else at the moment. It featured a complex syncopated melody and liberal use of dissonance on top of being very difficult to play. Even by the 20th century, its use of dissonance was still considered radical and esoteric, and was rarely performed. It wasn't until later that century that it became recognized as one of Beethoven's great works and far ahead of its time.

to:

** The ''Große Fuge'', originally from ''String Quartet No. 13'', 13 in Bâ™­ major'', was profoundly different from anything else at the moment. It featured a complex syncopated melody and liberal use of dissonance on top of being very difficult to play. Even by the 20th century, its use of dissonance was still considered radical and esoteric, and was rarely performed. It wasn't until later that century that it became recognized as one of Beethoven's great works and far ahead of its time.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* OlderThanTheyThink: For all Beethoven's musical accomplishments and monumental legacy, his Fifth Symphony was not the first symphony to include trombones or piccolos. In 1807, the year before the première of Beethoven's Fifth, Swedish composer Joachim Nicolas Eggert wrote his Third Symphony which used trombones, and symphonies with piccolo parts go as far back as Michael Haydn's (younger brother of Music/JosephHaydn) Eighteenth Symphony, composed in 1773. Beethoven is incorrectly credited because he was and continues to be recognized as one of the greatest composers of all time; in contrast, M. Haydn is obscure and Eggert is almost entirely forgotten.

to:

* OlderThanTheyThink: For all Beethoven's musical accomplishments and monumental legacy, his Fifth Symphony was not the first symphony to include trombones or piccolos. In 1807, the year before the première of Beethoven's Fifth, Swedish composer Joachim Nicolas Eggert wrote his Third Symphony which used trombones, and symphonies with piccolo parts go as far back as Michael Haydn's (younger brother of Music/JosephHaydn) Eighteenth Symphony, composed in 1773. Beethoven is incorrectly credited because he was and continues to be recognized as one of the greatest composers of all time; in contrast, M. Michael Haydn is obscure and Eggert is almost entirely forgotten.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* GrowingTheBeard: Musical historians divide Beethoven’s career into three profoundly different periods: early, middle and late; the composer grew the beard when he went from one period to the next.

to:

* GrowingTheBeard: Musical historians divide Beethoven’s career into three profoundly different periods: early, middle and late; the composer grew the beard when he went from one period to twice, at the next.start of the latter two periods.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* GrowingTheBeard: Beethoven did this twice. Musical historians divide his career into three profoundly different periods: Early, middle and late, the beard-growing happening at the start of the latter two.

to:

* GrowingTheBeard: Beethoven did this twice. Musical historians divide his Beethoven’s career into three profoundly different periods: Early, early, middle and late, late; the beard-growing happening at composer grew the start of beard when he went from one period to the latter two.next.

Added: 628

Changed: 266

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* GrowingTheBeard: Beethoven did this twice. Musical historians divide his career into three profoundly different periods: Early, middle and late. Transition from early to middle coincided with the death of his teacher, Haydn (whose shadow he had been trying to escape) as well as the discovery of the deterioration of his hearing, and the middle-to-late transition came about after he learned to deal with the complete loss of his hearing.

to:

* GrowingTheBeard: Beethoven did this twice. Musical historians divide his career into three profoundly different periods: Early, middle and late. late, the beard-growing happening at the start of the latter two.
**
Transition from early to middle coincided with the death of his teacher, Haydn Music/JosephHaydn (whose shadow he had been trying to escape) as well as the discovery of the deterioration of his hearing, hearing: this is the time Beethoven composed his 17th and the 21st Piano Sonatas and his Third Symphony, these particular pieces being considered a turning point in their genre's compositions.
** The
middle-to-late transition came about after he learned to deal with the complete loss of his hearing.hearing: this is the time where Beethoven composed his last three Piano Sonatas, the Missa Solemnis, the Ninth Symphony, and his last String Quartets.

Added: 116

Changed: 142

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* MemeticMutation: Dun-dun-dun DUUUUNNNN!
** BAM! BAM! Naaa-na-naaa-na-na-na-na-naaaa!

to:

* MemeticMutation: MemeticMutation:
**
Dun-dun-dun DUUUUNNNN!
DUUUUNNNN![[labelnote:Explanation]]The opening of the Fifth Symphony[[/labelnote]]
** BAM! BAM! Naaa-na-naaa-na-na-na-na-naaaa!Naaa-na-naaa-na-na-na-na-naaaa![[labelnote:Explanation]]The opening of the Third Symphony[[/labelnote]]

Added: 1540

Changed: 511

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


** BAM! BAM! Naaa-na-naaa-na-na-na-na-naaaa!



* TearJerker: "Cavatina" from ''String Quartet No. 13'' sounds almost as if the music itself is weeping, with long notes blending into each other like raindrops. The two violins end up exchanging lines for a while before the lead violin is left alone, desperate, in a staccato ''Beklemmt''--choked--passage. Beethoven himself was so drained by the experience of writing it that he found it hard to write anything else for a while. This emotional experience led to its inclusion as the final track on the UsefulNotes/VoyagerGoldenRecord.

to:

* TearJerker: ShockingMoments: Beethoven was a fan of this technique.
** The ''Eroica'' symphony was chock full of these, from the seemingly new theme in the middle of the development of the first movement to the sudden slowdown in the finale. However, the crowning shock of the symphony probably has to go to the anguished fugue in the middle of the funeral march with its striking dissonances--right after a false reprise of the opening section.
** ''O Freunde, nicht diese Töne!'' from the Ninth symphony--the first words sung in a symphony.
* TearJerker:
** The funeral march from the ''Eroica'' symphony (no. 3) is a very morose piece to begin with, even with the brief respite of the major trio. However, after a brief reprise of the opening section it suddenly shifts to a fugue on an earlier theme, which develops into almost a mass grieving session. This ends up making the true reprise of the opening almost sound like the grievers are collecting themselves. By the end, the theme can't even be stated in full without being broken up.
**
"Cavatina" from ''String Quartet No. 13'' sounds almost as if the music itself is weeping, with long notes blending into each other like raindrops. The two violins end up exchanging lines for a while before the lead violin is left alone, desperate, in a staccato ''Beklemmt''--choked--passage. Beethoven himself was so drained by the experience of writing it that he found it hard to write anything else for a while. This emotional experience led to its inclusion as the final track on the UsefulNotes/VoyagerGoldenRecord.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

** According to concert pianist Charles Rosen in The Classical Style, the long coda of the finale is needed to balance out the extreme tension of the whole symphony.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* JustHereForGodzilla: There are many people who listen the Fifth Symphony only for its first movement.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff: His 9th Symphony, and especially the StandardSnippet/OdeToJoy part, is ''huge'' in Japan. Every December, it is a holiday tradition to organize large singalong concerts that hundreds to thousands of people participate in.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* OlderThanTheyThink: For all Beethoven's musical accomplishments and monumental legacy, his Fifth Symphony was not the first symphony to include trombones or piccolos. In 1807, the year before the première of Beethoven's Fifth, Swedish composer Joachim Nicolas Eggert wrote his Third Symphony which used trombones, and symphonies with piccolo parts go as far back as Michael Haydn's (younger brother of Music/JosephHaydn) Eighteenth Symphony, composed in 1773. Beethoven is incorrectly credited because he was and continues to be recognized as one of the greatest composers of all time; in contrast, M. Haydn is obscure and Eggert is almost entirely forgotten.
Tabs MOD

Removed: 356

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
dewicking redirect; not parody


* WeirdAlEffect: His composition "Turkish March" in the incidental music Ruins of Athens is mostly known by Mexicans due to the CoveredUp take called "The Elephant Never Forgets" being used as the theme song for Series/ElChavoDelOcho. The chorus finale in the Ruins of Athens has a tune better known worldwide as El Jarabe Tapatio (The Mexican Hat Dance).
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* GrowingTheBeard: Beethoven did this twice. Musical historians divide his career into three profoundly different periods: Early, middle and late. Transition from early to middle coincided with the death of his teacher, Haydn (whose shadow he had been trying to escape) as well as the discovery of the deterioration of his hearing, and middle-to-late transition came about after he learned to deal with the complete loss of his hearing.

to:

* GrowingTheBeard: Beethoven did this twice. Musical historians divide his career into three profoundly different periods: Early, middle and late. Transition from early to middle coincided with the death of his teacher, Haydn (whose shadow he had been trying to escape) as well as the discovery of the deterioration of his hearing, and the middle-to-late transition came about after he learned to deal with the complete loss of his hearing.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments: At the end of the first performance of the ninth symphony, which Beethoven directed himself despite being completely deaf, the audience gave him five standing ovations - and they did it by waving hats and handkerchiefs in the air so he could see the applause he couldn't hear. Another story goes that Beethoven, who insisted on "conducting" (the ''real'' conducting was done by someone else but Beethoven was allowed to believe the musicians were following his lead) was several bars behind when the symphony finished and was therefore still conducting when the audience broke into applause. One of his sopranos physically turned him around to observe the audience's reaction, which of course he could not hear.

to:

* SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments: At the end of the first performance of the ninth symphony, his Ninth Symphony, which Beethoven directed himself despite being completely deaf, the audience gave him five standing ovations - and they did it by waving hats and handkerchiefs in the air so he could see the applause he couldn't hear. Another story goes that Beethoven, who insisted on "conducting" (the ''real'' conducting was done by someone else but Beethoven was allowed to believe the musicians were following his lead) was several bars behind when the symphony finished and was therefore still conducting when the audience broke into applause. One of his sopranos physically turned him around to observe the audience's reaction, which of course he could not hear.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* GrowingTheBeard: Some people feel that the music he wrote while he was going (and after he had gone) deaf is more interesting.

to:

* GrowingTheBeard: Some people feel that Beethoven did this twice. Musical historians divide his career into three profoundly different periods: Early, middle and late. Transition from early to middle coincided with the music death of his teacher, Haydn (whose shadow he wrote while he was going (and had been trying to escape) as well as the discovery of the deterioration of his hearing, and middle-to-late transition came about after he had gone) deaf is more interesting.learned to deal with the complete loss of his hearing.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* TearJerker: "Cavatina" from ''String Quartet No. 13'' sounds almost as if the music itself is weeping, with long notes blending into each other like raindrops. It was so disheartening that it was included as the final track on the UsefulNotes/VoyagerGoldenRecord.

to:

* TearJerker: "Cavatina" from ''String Quartet No. 13'' sounds almost as if the music itself is weeping, with long notes blending into each other like raindrops. It The two violins end up exchanging lines for a while before the lead violin is left alone, desperate, in a staccato ''Beklemmt''--choked--passage. Beethoven himself was so disheartening drained by the experience of writing it that he found it was included hard to write anything else for a while. This emotional experience led to its inclusion as the final track on the UsefulNotes/VoyagerGoldenRecord.

Added: 265

Changed: 42

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* TearJerker: "Cavatina" from ''String Quartet No. 13'' sounds almost as if the music itself is weeping, with long notes blending into each other like raindrops. It was so disheartening that it was included as the final track on the UsefulNotes/VoyagerGoldenRecord.



** The ''Große Fuge'' was profoundly different from anything else at the moment. It featured a complex syncopated melody and liberal use of dissonance on top of being very difficult to play. Even by the 20th century, its use of dissonance was still considered radical and esoteric, and was rarely performed. It wasn't until later that century that it became recognized as one of Beethoven's great works and far ahead of its time.

to:

** The ''Große Fuge'' Fuge'', originally from ''String Quartet No. 13'', was profoundly different from anything else at the moment. It featured a complex syncopated melody and liberal use of dissonance on top of being very difficult to play. Even by the 20th century, its use of dissonance was still considered radical and esoteric, and was rarely performed. It wasn't until later that century that it became recognized as one of Beethoven's great works and far ahead of its time.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments: At the end of the first performance of the ninth symphony, which Beethoven directed himself despite being completely deaf, the audience gave him five standing ovations - and they did it by waving hats and handkerchiefs in the air so he could see the applause he couldn't hear.

to:

* SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments: At the end of the first performance of the ninth symphony, which Beethoven directed himself despite being completely deaf, the audience gave him five standing ovations - and they did it by waving hats and handkerchiefs in the air so he could see the applause he couldn't hear. Another story goes that Beethoven, who insisted on "conducting" (the ''real'' conducting was done by someone else but Beethoven was allowed to believe the musicians were following his lead) was several bars behind when the symphony finished and was therefore still conducting when the audience broke into applause. One of his sopranos physically turned him around to observe the audience's reaction, which of course he could not hear.

Added: 976

Changed: 544

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* VindicatedByHistory: The premiere of the Fifth Symphony (and the Sixth) was in a concert that lasted four hours on a cold, December night and the audience was tired. Needless to say, it was not very well accepted in its first performance. It took a review by Creator/ETAHoffmann to bring its genius to light. However, ItMakesSenseInContext - the premiere was during the Napoleonic Wars, and as a result the orchestra was only able to rehearse the piece once before the performance, and mangled it so badly that Beethoven was forced to stop and restart at one point.

to:

* VindicatedByHistory: VindicatedByHistory:
**
The premiere of the Fifth Symphony (and the Sixth) was in a concert that lasted four hours on a cold, December night and the audience was tired. Needless to say, it was not very well accepted in its first performance. It took a review by Creator/ETAHoffmann to bring its genius to light. However, ItMakesSenseInContext - the premiere was during the Napoleonic Wars, and as a result the orchestra was only able to rehearse the piece once before the performance, and mangled it so badly that Beethoven was forced to stop and restart at one point.point.
** The ''Große Fuge'' was profoundly different from anything else at the moment. It featured a complex syncopated melody and liberal use of dissonance on top of being very difficult to play. Even by the 20th century, its use of dissonance was still considered radical and esoteric, and was rarely performed. It wasn't until later that century that it became recognized as one of Beethoven's great works and far ahead of its time.

Removed: 1709

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Violates the Too Controversial rule in No Real Life Examples Please


* AwesomeEgo:
** When he was still able to perform, Beethoven would pointedly stop playing if he heard any of the audience members whispering. He broke a chair over the head of one of his patrons. And yet he wasn't locked up; his behaviour was taken to be evidence of his genius, and indeed his disdain for authority and social rank was so pronounced that an Archduke decreed that etiquette laws did not apply to Beethoven. He wasn't the first composer to have an Awesome Ego, just the most famous.[[note]]The first recorded case of Awesome Ego in a composer was the 15th century French composer Josquin des Prez, one of whose prospective employers was warned "he composes when he wants to, not when he is wanted" but who became so famous that dozens of works have been attributed to him that he probably didn't write; musicologists are still sorting out the mess.[[/note]]
** The composer and impresario Anton Diabelli wrote a short waltz and asked a lot of famous composers to do a variation on it which he could then publish as a joint project in aid of orphans and widows of the Napoleonic Wars. When Beethoven finally sat down with Diabelli's tune he ran amok with it. It took him four years, but the result was the famous ''Diabelli Variations'', the greatest set of keyboard variations since Music/JohannSebastianBach's ''Goldberg Variations'' 60 years earlier. Diabelli considered them so badass that he released Beethoven's contribution as an independent volume, putting all fellow composers to shame. [[CurbStompBattle Which included big names like]] Music/FranzSchubert and Music/FranzLiszt. [[note]]To be fair, Liszt's contribution was [[ChildProdigy written when he was eleven years old]].[[/note]]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Not YMMV. Also speculation.


* TheAlcoholic: There is speculation that Beethoven may have had a problem with alcohol.
** Some of his more bizarre behavior may have been a result of inebriation.
** Beethoven had severe and prolonged attacks of jaundice during the last six years of his life.
** The composer had problems with ascites, which is fluid collecting in the abdomen, the last few years of his life. This is a common side effect of liver failure. His doctor performed paracentesis (tapping his belly to drain off the liquid) on four occasions -- one time drawing off 22 liters of fluid.
** An autopsy was performed on Beethoven shortly after his death, and several of his organs displayed damage consistent with alcohol abuse. He likely had chronic pancreatitis given that this organ was hard and film with a greatly widened duct. His spleen was significantly enlarged. His liver was shrunken to half its normal size, greenish-blue in color, leathery in consistency, covered with bean-sized knots, and containing blood vessels that were narrowed and bloodless; this is typical of chronic macronodular cirrhosis of the liver with portal hypertension. These are all commonly occurring indicators of excessive alcohol consumption.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


** An autopsy was performed on Beethoven shortly after his death, and several of his organs displayed damage consistent with alcohol abuse. He likely had chronic pancreatitis given that this organ was hard and film with a greatly widened duct. His spleen was greatly enlarged. His liver was shrunken to half its normal size, greenish-blue in color, leathery in consistency, covered with bean-sized knots, and containing blood vessels that were narrowed and bloodless; this is typical of chronic macronodular cirrhosis of the liver with portal hypertension. These are all commonly occurring indicators of excessive alcohol consumption.

to:

** An autopsy was performed on Beethoven shortly after his death, and several of his organs displayed damage consistent with alcohol abuse. He likely had chronic pancreatitis given that this organ was hard and film with a greatly widened duct. His spleen was greatly significantly enlarged. His liver was shrunken to half its normal size, greenish-blue in color, leathery in consistency, covered with bean-sized knots, and containing blood vessels that were narrowed and bloodless; this is typical of chronic macronodular cirrhosis of the liver with portal hypertension. These are all commonly occurring indicators of excessive alcohol consumption.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


** An autopsy was performed on Beethoven shortly after his death, and several of his organs displayed damage consistent with alcohol abuse. He likely had chronic pancreatitis given that this organ was hard and film with a greatly widened duct. His spleen was greatly enlarged. His liver was shrunken to half its normal size, greenish-blue in color, leathery in consistency, covered with bean-sized knots, and containing blood vessels that were narrowed and bloodless; this is typical of chronic macronodular cirrhosis of the liver with portal hypertension. These are all commonly occurring side effects of excessive alcohol consumption.

to:

** An autopsy was performed on Beethoven shortly after his death, and several of his organs displayed damage consistent with alcohol abuse. He likely had chronic pancreatitis given that this organ was hard and film with a greatly widened duct. His spleen was greatly enlarged. His liver was shrunken to half its normal size, greenish-blue in color, leathery in consistency, covered with bean-sized knots, and containing blood vessels that were narrowed and bloodless; this is typical of chronic macronodular cirrhosis of the liver with portal hypertension. These are all commonly occurring side effects indicators of excessive alcohol consumption.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


** An autopsy was performed on Beethoven shortly after his death, and several of his organs displayed damage consistent with alcohol abuse. He likely had chronic pancreatitis given that this organ was hard and film with a greatly widened duct. His spleen was greatly enlarged. His liver was shrunken to half its normal size, greenish-blue in color, leathery in consistency, covered with bean-sized knots, and containing blood vessels that were narrowed and bloodless; this is typical of chronic macronodular cirrhosis of the liver with portal hypertension.

to:

** An autopsy was performed on Beethoven shortly after his death, and several of his organs displayed damage consistent with alcohol abuse. He likely had chronic pancreatitis given that this organ was hard and film with a greatly widened duct. His spleen was greatly enlarged. His liver was shrunken to half its normal size, greenish-blue in color, leathery in consistency, covered with bean-sized knots, and containing blood vessels that were narrowed and bloodless; this is typical of chronic macronodular cirrhosis of the liver with portal hypertension. These are all commonly occurring side effects of excessive alcohol consumption.

Added: 859

Changed: 550

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


** An autopsy was performed on Beethoven shortly after his death, and several of his organs displayed damage consistent with alcohol abuse. He likely had chronic pancreatitis given that this organ was hard and film with a greatly widened duct. His liver was shrunken to half its normal size, greenish-blue in color, leathery in consistency, covered with bean-sized knots, and containing blood vessels that were narrowed and bloodless; this is typical of chronic macronodular cirrhosis of the liver with portal hypertension.

to:

** Beethoven had severe and prolonged attacks of jaundice during the last six years of his life.
** The composer had problems with ascites, which is fluid collecting in the abdomen, the last few years of his life. This is a common side effect of liver failure. His doctor performed paracentesis (tapping his belly to drain off the liquid) on four occasions -- one time drawing off 22 liters of fluid.
** An autopsy was performed on Beethoven shortly after his death, and several of his organs displayed damage consistent with alcohol abuse. He likely had chronic pancreatitis given that this organ was hard and film with a greatly widened duct. His spleen was greatly enlarged. His liver was shrunken to half its normal size, greenish-blue in color, leathery in consistency, covered with bean-sized knots, and containing blood vessels that were narrowed and bloodless; this is typical of chronic macronodular cirrhosis of the liver with portal hypertension.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* TheAlcoholic: There is speculation that Beethoven may have had a problem with alcohol.
** Some of his more bizarre behavior may have been a result of inebriation.
** An autopsy was performed on Beethoven shortly after his death, and several of his organs displayed damage consistent with alcohol abuse. He likely had chronic pancreatitis given that this organ was hard and film with a greatly widened duct. His liver was shrunken to half its normal size, greenish-blue in color, leathery in consistency, covered with bean-sized knots, and containing blood vessels that were narrowed and bloodless; this is typical of chronic macronodular cirrhosis of the liver with portal hypertension.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
applied to characters


* EnsembleDarkHorse: Symphony No. 9 is probably the favourite with the public, and Symphony No. 5 is the one with the most famous opening, but those who really know Beethoven's work tend to agree that Symphony No. 3 is the real ground-breaking game-changer, being by some distance the longest and most complex symphony that anyone had written up until that point.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Beethoven wrote the Mexican Hat Dance. I kid you not.


* WeirdAlEffect: His composition of "Turkish March" is mostly known by Mexicans due to the CoveredUp take called "The Elephant Never Forgets" being used as the theme song for Series/ElChavoDelOcho.

to:

* WeirdAlEffect: His composition of "Turkish March" in the incidental music Ruins of Athens is mostly known by Mexicans due to the CoveredUp take called "The Elephant Never Forgets" being used as the theme song for Series/ElChavoDelOcho.Series/ElChavoDelOcho. The chorus finale in the Ruins of Athens has a tune better known worldwide as El Jarabe Tapatio (The Mexican Hat Dance).
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* EndingFatigue: Even some professional musicians think Beethoven had a hard time bringing Symphony No. 5 in C minor to an end.
* EnsembleDarkHorse: Symphony No. 9 is probably the favourite with the public, and Symphony No. 5 is the one with the most famous opening, but those who really know Beethoven's work tend to agree that the Third Symphony is the really boundary-breaking, game-changing one, being by some distance the longest and most complex symphony that anyone had written up until that point.

to:

* EndingFatigue: Even some professional musicians think Beethoven had a hard time bringing Symphony No. 5 in C minor to an end.
* EnsembleDarkHorse: Symphony No. 9 is probably the favourite with the public, and Symphony No. 5 is the one with the most famous opening, but those who really know Beethoven's work tend to agree that the Third Symphony No. 3 is the really boundary-breaking, game-changing one, real ground-breaking game-changer, being by some distance the longest and most complex symphony that anyone had written up until that point.

Top