Follow TV Tropes

Following

History YMMV / LastHeraldMageTrilogy

Go To

OR

Changed: 8

Removed: 927

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
CM needs to be approved. RTDE only applies to audiences not the work doing it.


** In-universe, hearing about the abuse Tashir suffered from his mother Ylsa, Vanyel is inclined to think of her as a CompleteMonster. The lady's maid telling him about it, who knew her, sees her as a TroubledAbuser despised by her family for being a MuggleBornOfMages and by her husband and ''his'' family for suspicion of BrotherSisterIncest when she was ''fourteen'', kept in a "childlike" state of mind and believing the only thing she was good at was sex.

to:

** In-universe, hearing about the abuse Tashir suffered from his mother Ylsa, Vanyel is inclined to think of her as a CompleteMonster.monster. The lady's maid telling him about it, who knew her, sees her as a TroubledAbuser despised by her family for being a MuggleBornOfMages and by her husband and ''his'' family for suspicion of BrotherSisterIncest when she was ''fourteen'', kept in a "childlike" state of mind and believing the only thing she was good at was sex.



* RonTheDeathEater: A short story in one of the Valdemar anthology novels features Paxia, a girl manifesting the Mage Gift, who's nearly driven mad by the country-wide spells Vanyel set up to ward Valdemar against mages. Valdemarans struggle to [[BrainwashingForTheGreaterGood think or talk about magic]], and using magic within the borders leads to increasing numbers of air elementals [[BeingWatched staring]] until the mage leaves the country. Paxia, exiled from her homeland and horrified by the realization that there must have been others like her tormented and not helped, swears revenge on Heralds believing that they knew and did nothing. The story calls attention to how Vanyel considered how terrible it would be for a mage venturing into Valdemar but had NoSympathy and made no arrangements to take care of Valdemarans born with the Mage-Gift, and his ''other'' spell ensured that no arrangements could ''be'' made.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* ParanoiaFuel: The BigBad's modus operandi is to slowly corrupt or kill every mage in Valdemar, especially the Herald-Mages. Since one, possibly even both of him are the immortal sorcerer Ma'ar, he plays an extremely long game, until finally he has an army of mage thralls at his back and only one Herald-Mage left to oppose him when he is finally ready to enter the country. And while the corruptions and slayings are subtle at first, they get more and more blatant as he cleans up his list, ending with an assassination that practically has his name on it. This, unsurprisingly, leaves Van in a roaring rage, and without Stefen and Yfandes to intervene, Vanyel would have been killed or corrupted too. As it is, he wins only at the cost of his own life.

to:

* ParanoiaFuel: The BigBad's [[BigBad Leareth's]] modus operandi is to slowly corrupt or kill every mage in Valdemar, especially the Herald-Mages. Since one, possibly even both he is the latest incarnation of him are the immortal sorcerer Ma'ar, he plays an extremely long game, whittling down the mage ranks for decades until finally he has an army of mage thralls at his back and only one Herald-Mage left to oppose him when he is finally ready to enter the country.can march on Valdemar practically unopposed. And while the corruptions and slayings are subtle at first, they get more and more blatant as he cleans up his list, ending with an assassination that practically has his name on it. This, unsurprisingly, leaves Van in a roaring rage, blind with anger, and without Stefen and Yfandes to intervene, Vanyel would have been killed or corrupted he comes within a hair of winding up in Leareth's possession too. As it is, he wins only at the cost of his own life.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


** In the same book, Herald-Healer Shavri deliberately opens an unblocked link to her dying Life-bonded, meaning her life will go when his does. Her own death, while not 'on-screen' or described in detail, is implied to be horrible.

to:

** In the same book, Herald-Healer King's Own Herald/Healer Shavri deliberately opens an unblocked link to her dying Life-bonded, Lifebonded, meaning her life will go when his does. Her own death, while not shown 'on-screen' or described in detail, is implied to be horrible.



* ParanoiaFuel: The BigBad's modus operandi is to slowly corrupt or kill every mage in Valdemar, especially the Herald-Mages. Since one, possibly even both of him are the immortal sorcerer Ma'ar, he plays an extremely long game, until finally he has an army of mage thralls at his back and only one Herald-Mage left to oppose him when he is finally ready to enter the country. And while the corruptions and slaying look subtle at first, they get more and more blatant as he cleans up his list, ending with an assassination that practically has his name on it. This, unsurprisingly, leaves Van in a roaring rage, and without Stefen and Yfandes to intervene, Vanyel would have been killed or corrupted too. As it is, he wins only at the cost of his own life.

to:

* ParanoiaFuel: The BigBad's modus operandi is to slowly corrupt or kill every mage in Valdemar, especially the Herald-Mages. Since one, possibly even both of him are the immortal sorcerer Ma'ar, he plays an extremely long game, until finally he has an army of mage thralls at his back and only one Herald-Mage left to oppose him when he is finally ready to enter the country. And while the corruptions and slaying look slayings are subtle at first, they get more and more blatant as he cleans up his list, ending with an assassination that practically has his name on it. This, unsurprisingly, leaves Van in a roaring rage, and without Stefen and Yfandes to intervene, Vanyel would have been killed or corrupted too. As it is, he wins only at the cost of his own life.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

** Also in-universe, Tylendel! After he's repudiated by Gala and subsequently kills himself, enough Companions think of him as still a Herald that they ring the Death Bell for him and he's buried in Whites. Vanyel and Savil's views of him are very sympathetic. Other Heralds find him too painful a subject to bring up. A Companion in the Collegium books who is the {{Reincarnation}} of a Herald who knew Tylendel well enough to refer to him by nickname thinks of him with considerable vitriol as a feckless ManChild, something Stefan [[ButHeSoundsHandsome would probably protest]].
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* ParanoiaFuel: The BigBad's modus operandi is to slowly corrupt or kill every mage in Valdemar, especially the Herald-Mages. Since one, possibly even both of him are the immortal sorcerer Ma'ar, he plays an extremely long game, until finally he has an army of mage thralls at his back and only one Herald-Mage left to oppose him when he is finally ready to enter the country. And while the corruptions and slaying look subtle at first, they get more and more blatant as he cleans up his list, ending with an assassination that practically has his name on it. This, unsurprisingly, leaves Van in a roaring rage, and without Stefen and Yfandes to intervene, Vanyel would have been killed or corrupted too. As it is, he wins only at the cost of his own life.

Added: 71

Changed: 174

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* EscapistCharacter: Vanyel struggles a ''lot'' in his life and is often lonely and unhappy, but over the course of the trilogy he becomes incredibly valuable to everyone he cares about, important and powerful and able to affect change like no one else. Everyone who dislikes him either comes around to loving him, comes to see him as a paragon they respect highly, or just dies. His {{Gayngst}} can be pretty relatable, particularly to queer readers, and resolves with his father mending his ways and a positive spin on TogetherInDeath with Stefan. Centuries after he's died Vanyel is still adored and respected. Also, he's very beautiful.

to:

* EscapistCharacter: Vanyel struggles a ''lot'' in his life and is often lonely and unhappy, but over the course of the trilogy he becomes incredibly valuable to everyone he cares about, important and powerful and able to affect change like no one else. Everyone who dislikes him either comes around to loving him, comes to see him as a paragon they respect highly, or just dies. His {{Gayngst}} can be pretty relatable, particularly to queer readers, and resolves with his father mending his ways and a positive spin on TogetherInDeath with Stefan. Centuries after he's died Vanyel is still adored and respected. Also, he's very beautiful.got a beautiful face, lean build, blue-black hair, and silver eyes -- even after his hair goes prematurely grey, he remains the most striking Herald in Whites until the day he dies.


Added DiffLines:

--->''Sometimes you could hear him screaming when the wind was right.''

Added: 927

Changed: 2

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


** In ''Magic's Pride'', it's mentioned offhand that "Lord Dark" took an underling who displeased him and chained him out in the woods so the carrion birds could eat his flesh -- bad enough, but he also added a Healing spell so the flesh would keep ''growing back''... now the crows are always fat and glossy, and none of the other underlings will eat them.

to:

** In ''Magic's Pride'', Price'', it's mentioned offhand that "Lord Dark" took an underling who displeased him and chained him out in the woods so the carrion birds could eat his flesh -- bad enough, but he also added a Healing spell so the flesh would keep ''growing back''... now the crows are always fat and glossy, and none of the other underlings will eat them.


Added DiffLines:

* RonTheDeathEater: A short story in one of the Valdemar anthology novels features Paxia, a girl manifesting the Mage Gift, who's nearly driven mad by the country-wide spells Vanyel set up to ward Valdemar against mages. Valdemarans struggle to [[BrainwashingForTheGreaterGood think or talk about magic]], and using magic within the borders leads to increasing numbers of air elementals [[BeingWatched staring]] until the mage leaves the country. Paxia, exiled from her homeland and horrified by the realization that there must have been others like her tormented and not helped, swears revenge on Heralds believing that they knew and did nothing. The story calls attention to how Vanyel considered how terrible it would be for a mage venturing into Valdemar but had NoSympathy and made no arrangements to take care of Valdemarans born with the Mage-Gift, and his ''other'' spell ensured that no arrangements could ''be'' made.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


** In ''Magic's Pride'', it's mentioned offhand that "Lord Dark" took an underling who displeased him and chained him out in the woods so the carrion birds could eat his flesh -- bad enough, but he also added a Healing spell so the flesh would keep ''growing back''...

to:

** In ''Magic's Pride'', it's mentioned offhand that "Lord Dark" took an underling who displeased him and chained him out in the woods so the carrion birds could eat his flesh -- bad enough, but he also added a Healing spell so the flesh would keep ''growing back''... now the crows are always fat and glossy, and none of the other underlings will eat them.

Added: 243

Changed: 88

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


** In ''Magic's Pawn'', a maddened Tylendel calls up ''wyrsa'', creatures that look half-greyhound and half-snake, and sets them on his enemies. His Companion tries to stand against them, but she is pulled down and destroyed... as she must have known would happen.

to:

** In ''Magic's Pawn'', a maddened Tylendel calls up ''wyrsa'', creatures that look half-greyhound and half-snake, and sets them on his enemies. His Companion disowns him -- the one and only time in this series this has happened -- and tries to stand against them, but she is pulled down and destroyed...destroyed in minutes... as she must have known would happen.


Added DiffLines:

** Vanyel and Yfandes meet their end by releasing all their mage energy at once -- a technique called the Final Strike -- to destroy Leareth and his army. While it's over quickly, Stef shares their incredible pain as they effectively explode.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* NightmareFuel: These books get ''dark'' at times
** In ''Magic's Pawn'', a maddened Tylendel calls up ''wyrsa'', creatures that look half-greyhound and half-snake, and sets them on his enemies. His Companion tries to stand against them, but she is pulled down and destroyed... as she must have known would happen.
** In the same book, Vanyel sees an ice-drake queen psychically dragging a woman within reach. The woman is fully aware of what is happening but can't do anything to stop it, and Van is paralyzed with fear himself.
** In ''Magic's Promise'', Van intercepts Herald Lores savagely ''whipping'' a Companion, to the point of shearing off strips of flesh. His own Companion is in a HeroicBSOD of anguish -- which is good for Lores, because she would have had every reason to repudiate him too, if she'd had enough mind to do so at the moment.
** In ''Magic's Pride'', it's mentioned offhand that "Lord Dark" took an underling who displeased him and chained him out in the woods so the carrion birds could eat his flesh -- bad enough, but he also added a Healing spell so the flesh would keep ''growing back''...
** In the same book, Herald-Healer Shavri deliberately opens an unblocked link to her dying Life-bonded, meaning her life will go when his does. Her own death, while not 'on-screen' or described in detail, is implied to be horrible.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* EscapistCharacter: Vanyel struggles a ''lot'' in his life and is often lonely and unhappy, but over the course of the trilogy he becomes incredibly valuable to everyone he cares about, important and powerful and able to affect change like no one else. Everyone who dislikes him either comes around to loving him, comes to see him as a paragon they respect highly, or just dies. His {{Gayngst}} can be pretty relatable, particularly to queer readers, and resolves with his father mending his ways and a positive spin on TogetherInDeath with Stefan. Centuries after he's died Vanyel is still adored and respected.

to:

* EscapistCharacter: Vanyel struggles a ''lot'' in his life and is often lonely and unhappy, but over the course of the trilogy he becomes incredibly valuable to everyone he cares about, important and powerful and able to affect change like no one else. Everyone who dislikes him either comes around to loving him, comes to see him as a paragon they respect highly, or just dies. His {{Gayngst}} can be pretty relatable, particularly to queer readers, and resolves with his father mending his ways and a positive spin on TogetherInDeath with Stefan. Centuries after he's died Vanyel is still adored and respected. Also, he's very beautiful.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* EscapistCharacter: Vanyel struggles a ''lot'' in his life and is often lonely and unhappy, but over the course of the trilogy he becomes incredibly valuable to everyone he cares about, important and powerful and able to affect change like no one else. Everyone who dislikes him either comes around to loving him, comes to see him as a paragon they respect highly, or just dies. His {{Gayngst}} can be pretty relatable, particularly to queer readers, and resolves with his father mending his ways and a positive spin on TogetherInDeath with Stefan. Centuries after he's died Vanyel is still adored and respected.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


** In-universe, hearing about the abuse Tashir suffered from his mother Ylsa, Vanyel is inclined to think of her as a CompleteMonster. The lady's maid telling him about it, who knew her, sees her as a TragicAbuser despised by her family for being a MuggleBornToMages and by her husband and ''his'' family for suspicion of BrotherSisterIncest when she was ''fourteen'', kept in a "childlike" state of mind and believing the only thing she was good at was sex.

to:

** In-universe, hearing about the abuse Tashir suffered from his mother Ylsa, Vanyel is inclined to think of her as a CompleteMonster. The lady's maid telling him about it, who knew her, sees her as a TragicAbuser TroubledAbuser despised by her family for being a MuggleBornToMages MuggleBornOfMages and by her husband and ''his'' family for suspicion of BrotherSisterIncest when she was ''fourteen'', kept in a "childlike" state of mind and believing the only thing she was good at was sex.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

** In-universe, hearing about the abuse Tashir suffered from his mother Ylsa, Vanyel is inclined to think of her as a CompleteMonster. The lady's maid telling him about it, who knew her, sees her as a TragicAbuser despised by her family for being a MuggleBornToMages and by her husband and ''his'' family for suspicion of BrotherSisterIncest when she was ''fourteen'', kept in a "childlike" state of mind and believing the only thing she was good at was sex.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* HilariousInHindsight: At one point in ''Magic's Price'', Yfandes teases Vanyel mercilessly when he has to do a major spellcasting with a hangover. He vows that one day he'll get a Companion drunk, just to turn the tables. In later books, it's explicitly revealed that Yfandes, like most Companions, is the {{reincarnation}} of a human, so she probably knows exactly how it feels (and just to make his revenge complete, Grove-born Companion Gwena -- who is ''no one's'' reincarnation -- wakes up woozy after being clipped with a magic-bolt and promises she'll never again mock Elspeth when she is "wine-sick".)

Top