History YMMV / InvertedFate

* MoralEventHorizon: Asriel crossed it with [[spoiler:his [[KickTheDog needlessly cruel treatment]] of Frisk in The Angel's Promise. He could've simply backstabbed them, absorbed the [=SOULs=] and left it at that, but he deliberately drew out the betrayal by [[NoHoldsBarredBeatdown beating the poor kid within an inch of their life]] and [[BreakThemByTalking screaming in their face over how worthless they are]]. Asriel only continued to double down on this abuse, tormenting them out of petty spite even when it served no purpose in advancing his plans. And if that didn't push him past the MEH, he most ''certainly'' crossed it when he set his sights on Frisk's childhood friend Lilac, taking her SOUL and using her body as a puppet for yet more sadistic mind games.]]

** During TheVeryDefinitelyFinalDungeon, [[spoiler:Frisk and Chara enter a golden cathedral which seems far more benign than the horrors present during the last few arcs. However, the chapter is basically [[BigBad Asriel]] gaslighting the protagonists and the viewer into thinking he's this [[GodIsGood kind, noble, all-loving god]] whose goals are born from [[WellIntentionedExtremist benevolence and self-sacrifice]] despite it being a front for his [[AGodAmI self aggrandizing ego]] and [[{{Hypocrite}} hypocrisy]]. If anything, Asriel's portrayal of himself is consistent with cult leaders who try to convert new members via emotional manipulation and gaslighting. And that's before you compare Asriel's portrayal with how some interpret God [[GodIsEvil as an abusive patriarch]] who gaslights people into reverent obedience and sees all of His actions as righteous and justified.]]

** During TheVeryDefinitelyFinalDungeon, [[spoiler:Frisk and Chara enter a golden cathedral which seems for more benign than the horrors present during the last few arcs. However the chapter is basically [[BigBad Asriel]] gaslighting the protagonists and the viewer into thinking he's this [[GodIsGood kind, noble all-loving god]] whose goals are born from [[WellIntentionedExtremist benevolence and self-sacrifice]] despite it being a front for his [[AGodAmI self aggrandizing ego]] and [[{{Hypocrite}} hypocrisy]]. If anything, Asriel's portrayal of himself is consistent with cult leaders who try to convert new members via emotional manipulation and gaslighting. And that's before you compare Asriel's portrayal with how some interpret God [[GodIsEvil as an abusive patriarch]] who gaslights people into reverent obedience and sees all of His actions as righteous and justified.]]
** [[spoiler:Rift 6 has Flowey's descent into villainy, causing him to become TheSociopath that he's best known as. While the time travel aspects are fantastical, Flowey's descent mirrors how years of bad experiences, derealization, dehumanization, isolation and emotional numbness can do a number on the psyche of some people, causing them to gradually become more sociopathic. Asriel was a child when he first become Flowey, and he's done enough playthroughs to conclude that he's seen ''everything'' there is to see in the Underground. That's more than enough time for Flowey to go over the edge, snap and decide that he no longer cares because he's got nothing to lose, a mentality that has caused some people to actually go off and start killing people, much like how Flowey eventually decided to [[SpreeKiller do a Genocide run]] through the Underground.]]
* UnexpectedCharacter: While Susie, Berdly, Noelle and Rudy from ''VideoGame/{{Deltarune}}'' having cameos wasn't out-of-the-blue given that they're Monsters, nobody was expecting [[spoiler:Spamton to have a counterpart in ''Inverted Fate'', albeit as a sentient adware program given a robot body by [[MadScientist Papyrus]] instead of a Darkner]].

** [[spoiler:Rift 6 has Flowey's descent into villainy, causing him to become TheSociopath that he's best known as. While the time travel aspects are fantastical, Flowey's descent mirrors how years of bad experiences, derealization and dehumanization can do a number on the psyche of some people, causing them to gradually become more sociopathic. Asriel was a child when he first become Flowey, and he's done enough playthroughs to conclude that he's seen ''everything'' there is to see in the Underground. That's more than enough time for Flowey to go over the edge, snap and decide that he no longer cares because he's got nothing to lose, a mentality that has caused some people to actually go off and start killing people, much like how Flowey eventually decided to [[SpreeKiller do a Genocide run]] through the Underground.]]

* RealismInducedHorror: During TheVeryDefinitelyFinalDungeon, [[spoiler:Frisk and Chara enter a golden cathedral which seems for more benign than the horrors present during the last few arcs. However the chapter is basically [[BigBad Asriel]] gaslighting the protagonists and the viewer into thinking he's this [[GodIsGood kind, noble all-loving god]] whose goals are born from [[WellIntentionedExtremist benevolence and self-sacrifice]] despite it being a front for his [[AGodAmI self aggrandizing ego]] and [[{{Hypocrite}} hypocrisy]]. If anything, Asriel's portrayal of himself is consistent with cult leaders who try to convert new members via emotional manipulation and gaslighting. And that's before you compare Asriel's portrayal with how some interpret God [[GodIsEvil as an abusive patriarch]] who gaslights people into reverent obedience and sees all of His actions as righteous and justified.]]

* RealismInducedHorror: During TheDefinitelyFinalDungeon, [[spoiler:Frisk and Chara enter a golden cathedral which seems for more benign than the horrors present during the last few arcs. However the chapter is basically [[BigBad Asriel]] gaslighting the protagonists and the viewer into thinking he's this [[GodIsGood kind, noble all-loving god]] whose goals are born from [[WellIntentionedExtremist benevolence and self-sacrifice]] despite it being a front for his [[AGodAmI self aggrandizing ego]] and [[{{Hypocrite}} hypocrisy]]. If anything, Asriel's portrayal of himself is consistent with cult leaders who try to convert new members via emotional manipulation and gaslighting. And that's before you compare Asriel's portrayal with how some interpret God [[GodIsEvil as an abusive patriarch]] who gaslights people into reverent obedience and sees all of His actions as righteous and justified.]]

* MoralEventHorizon: If Asriel/Flowey didn't cross it during his inevitable betrayal when he [[spoiler:absorbed the human [=SOULs=] and the [=SOULs=] of all the monsters to achieve [[AGodAmI godhood]] once again]], he certainly did with his [[spoiler:[[KickTheDog needlessly cruel treatment of Frisk]], [[NoHoldsBarredBeatdown beating them within an inch of their life]] and [[BreakThemByTalking verbally tearing them to shreds]] in what was easily ''the'' most traumatic experience of their life. Keep in mind that Frisk is [[HarmfulToMinors 12 years old]]. Asriel continued to double down from this point onward, [[KickTheDog tormenting them]] [[EvilIsPetty out of petty spite]] even though it served no purpose in advancing his plans. The unexpected appearance of Lilac, Frisk's childhood friend and an innocent bystander, made for the perfect [[RevengeByProxy opportunity]] for Asriel to traumatize them even further. And sure enough, he decided to forcefully extract her SOUL in front of Frisk, causing her to ''collapse in a lifeless heap in front of them'', with his dialogue in TheStinger implying that he's going to use her for yet more sadistic mind games]].
* RealismInducedHorror: [[spoiler: During TheDefinitelyFinalDungeon, Frisk and Chara enter a golden cathedral which seems for more benign than the horrors present during the last few arcs. However the chapter is basically [[BigBad Asriel]] gaslighting the protagonists and the viewer into thinking he's this [[GodIsGood kind, noble all-loving god]] whose goals are born from [[WellIntentionedExtremist benevolence and self-sacrifice]] despite it being a front for his [[AGodAmI self aggrandizing ego]] and [[{{Hypocrite}} hypocrisy]]. If anything, Asriel's portrayal of himself is consistent with cult leaders who try to convert new members via emotional manipulation and gaslighting. And that's before you compare Asriel's portrayal with how some interpret God [[GodIsEvil as an abusive patriarch]] who gaslights people into reverent obedience and sees all of His actions as righteous and justified.]]

* FridgeBrilliance: In earlier some earlier sections where Frisk can be hit by projectiles, they could immediately take damage similar to Deltarune instead of initiating a "mini-encounter," except the SOUL doesn't appear. In null_4, [[spoiler:both Frisk and Chara's [=SOULs=] glow when Papybot advertises the exploding Pipis. Where does Pipis come from? Spamton. Which game did Spamton originate from? Deltarune. What did Deltarune introduce? Overworld dodging with the SOUL glowing]].
** So why does [[spoiler: Asriel have a giant church dedicated to himself and Chara, designed to showcase his self-aggrandizing hypocrisy? Simple. From a certain point on view, many Bible verses in both Testaments portray God as someone who should always be obeyed, who is always right and knows best and who is considered [[AllLovingHero kind and all loving]]; all of which can be interpreted as God being an abusive patriarch who gaslights people into obedience and uses emotional manipulation to decisive others in seeing them [[DracoInLeatherPants as sympathetic and benevolent]], much like how Asriel is trying to keep Chara in an abusive relationship by putting them on a pedestal while still having [[AGodAmI all the power in their friendship.]] ]]
** [[spoiler: Another bit regarding Asriel and his Rift Cathedral: Asriel is named after the Angel of Death which is consistent with his actions in Inverted Fate (i.e he absorbed everyone monster in the Underground and did the same with several humans on the surface.) While Asriel maybe named after the Angel of Death in terms of function, he's more consistent with Lucifer aka Satan due to him being a monster associated with goat-like imagery who creates illusions to deceive people and his status as a FallenHero. The [[EmbodiedVice Effigy of Ego]] is Asriel's god complex given form, and a god complex is a sign of extreme pride, the sin associated with Lucifer.]]
** Unlike the [[spoiler:Effigy of Ego and Pawn of Possessiveness]], it makes sense that [[spoiler:Fiend of Fatality]] would be defeated through kindness rather that calling them out. [[spoiler:The Fiend represents Asriel's child self]] with it's more aggressive nature being represented by [[spoiler:Chara's past self. The other Figments represent Asriel as he now as a fully grown adult.]]
* FridgeHorror: Some optional dialogue in the playable null_5 reveals that [[spoiler:there is a statue of Chara on the surface, implied to be a memorial made by their [[AbusiveParents birth parents]]. This means that not only are other humans likely to recognize Chara like Lilac did (and possibly misgender them/call them by their deadname), but also that some of them are aware of the existence of monsters and believe that Chara was killed by them, which might cause problems after the other monsters are brought back]].
** When Frisk, Chara and Lilac finally [[spoiler: escape from the corrupted Underground and make it back to the city, we see a few bodies drained of life, only moving to point the heroes in the intended direction. It's likely that what we saw in null_7 is only a small fraction of the horrors that [[ApocalypseHow Asriel's plan has inflicted.]] Additionally, Asriel's plan has warped reality to the point where several Gaster followers (aside from Spamton's cameo in the Cyber City building)are able to exist out in the open.]]
** Though [[spoiler: WordOfGod has confirmed that Asriel has no plans to become a MultiversalConqueror, the fact that Asriel is powerful enough to see into other universes means that he's able to learn from them to see where he went wrong in other universes, allowing him to cover whatever weaknesses he has and make himself ever stronger.]]

* BetterThanCanon: It's got all the charm and heart of Undertale, but it's longer. Frisk is a fleshed-out character instead of a silent protagonist, the great Papyrus is the secondary protagonist, and in general, a lot more character interaction is able to be shown with the comic not necessarily being limited to one perspective. It isn't difficult to see how it's viewed like this by many, especially with the characters and story being the main draws of the original game for a lot of people, and it even has its own soundtrack, another beloved aspect of the game, helping it further.

** Though [[spoiler: WordOfGod has confirmed that Asriel has no plans to become a MultiversalConquerer, the fact that Asriel is powerful enough to see into other universes means that he's able to learn from them to see where he went wrong in other universes, allowing him to cover whatever weaknesses he has and make himself ever stronger.]]

** So why does [[spoiler: Asriel have a giant church dedicated to himself and Chara, designed to showcase his self-aggrandizing hypocrisy? Simple. From a certain point on view, many Bible verses in both Testaments portray God as someone who should always be obeyed, who is always right and knows best and who is considered [AllLovingHero kind and all loving]]; all of which can be interpreted as God being an abusive patriarch who gaslights people into obedience and uses emotional manipulation to decisive others in seeing them [[DracoInLeatherPants as sympathetic and benevolent]], much like how Asriel is trying to keep Chara in an abusive relationship by putting them on a pedestal while still having [[AGodAmI all the power in their friendship.]] ]]

** So why does [[spoiler: Asriel have a giant church dedicated to himself and Chara, designed to showcase his self-aggrandizing hypocrisy? Simple. From a certain point on view, many Bible verses in both Testaments portray God as someone who should always be obeyed, who is always right and knows best and who is considered [AllLovingHero kind and all loving]]; all of which can be interpreted as God being an abusive patriarch who gaslights people into obedience and uses emotional manipulation to decisive others in seeing them [[DracoInLeatherPants as sympathetic and benevolent]], much like how Asriel is trying to keep Chara in an abusive relationship by putting them on a pedestal while still having [[AGodAmI all the power in their friendship.]]]]