History YMMV / HalloweenTheCurseOfMichaelMyers

** If you thought it was silly to watch, apparently it was equally silly to shoot. Making of footage reveals a riotous laughing crew as they pummeled the mask and the green stuff flew out of it.
* BrokenBase: Over whether the Producer's Cut or the Theatrical Cut is the better version of the film. Some fans prefer the Theatrical Cut for keeping Michael an intimidating force as opposed to TheDragon controlled by the cult, the ramped up gore and slasher violence and for leaving the identify of Jamie's baby's father anonymous. Other fans, meanwhile, believe the Producer's Cut to be the superior cut for sticking to its cult premise [[FanDislikedExplanation despite not being fully onboard with it]], a more consistent tone with the previous entries in the "Cult of Thorn" timeline, better filmmaking (no flashy obnoxious editing), more interactions with Dr. Loomis and an ending that is clear and conclusive compared to the Theatrical Cut's GainaxEnding.

** In the theatrical cut, [[MorallyAmbiguousDoctorate Dr. Terence Wynn]] is revealed to be as monstrous as Michael himself. Wynn uses the ancient {{Cult}} of Thorn as a front for his experiments, using Michael's DNA to create evil in its purest form by impregnating female patients of Smith's Grove Sanitarium with Michael's DNA, most resulting in stillbirths. It is also discovered Wynn helped mentor Michael into being the killer he is today, and helped him escape in the [[Film/{{Halloween 1978}} first movie]]. In the [[Film/Halloween5TheRevengeOfMichaelMyers previous movie]], Wynn followed Michael in his killing spree, and [[CopKiller blew up a police station]] before abducting Michael's niece Jamie and escaping with Michael. After Jamie successfully births a new baby, Steven, Wynn plans on making Steven the next cycle of evil, and even forms a fascination with Danny Strode, trying to get him to become a killer too.

** The lead pipe wielding Tommy Doyle begins beating the crap out of Michael in a scene involving a near seizure inducing strobe light effect. Tommy hits Michael over and over again, eventually causing some kind of viscous green slime to begin oozing out of Michael's mask. Later, when Michael's mask is found abandoned, it's completely clean, with no weird sludge coating it.

** While the Producer's Cut is seen as the better version of the film [[BrokenBase in some fan circles]], the one thing that first pops up in peoples minds when thinking about it is [[spoiler:Michael [[{{Squick}} being the father]] of Jamie’s baby]].

* SignatureScene: John's death scene in the theatrical cut (where he's impaled by Michael in a fuse box, causing his head to explode) is so awesome hilarious and satisfying, that both [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tq7AJe2wXbw#t=13m8s Phelous]] and the [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9d06XTkXBSs&t=17m11s Cinema Snob]] agree that it's the only improvement the theatrical cut has over the producer's cut (as John simply get electrocuted in the producer's cut).

** Michael’s mask, unlike the previous two films, is designed to be closer in appearance to the classic Captain Kirk mask. While far from perfect, it's widely considered to be one of the better masks from the sequels.

** [[https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Lz_Z7hCuBSI The Producer’s Cut]] version of the theme reincorporates the classic sound of the original 2 films, bringing it full circle.

* BrokenBase: Over whether the Producer's Cut or the Theatrical Cut is the better version of the film. Some fans prefer the Theatrical Cut for keeping Michael an intimidating force as opposed to TheDragon controlled by the cult, the ramped up gore and slasher violence and for leaving the identify of Jamie's baby's father anonymous. Other fans, meanwhile, believe the Producer's Cut to be the superior cut for sticking to its cult premise [[FanDislikedExplanation despite not being fully onboard with it]], a more consistent tone with the previous entries in the "Cult of Thorn" timeline and more interactions with Dr. Loomis.

** Every scene featuring Dr. Loomis, in no small part due to the knowledge that it would be the last time Creator/DonaldPleasance would ever play the character. On top of that, his age is showing with the exhaustion in Pleasance's voice.
* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: Dr. Loomis is very underutilized in this film, particularly in the Theatrical Cut. He barely shows up and mostly exists to serve exposition, not even participating in the climax in the Theatrical version. This was a case of ExecutiveMeddling and RealLifeWritesThePlot, as [[Creator/DonaldPleasence Donald Pleasence]] died during production and producer Paul Freeman fought with Daniel Farrands over Loomis, as he reportedly did not like the character.

* TearJerker: The very idea that Jamie Lloyd has spent ''six years'' of her life locked away by the Cult of Thorn. Its sad enough that a little girl has been kidnapped in an attempt to cover up everything at the police station shooting, but add on the fact that everyone she knew is either dead or are unaware of where she is, ''[[FromBadToWorse and then]]'', [[spoiler:she is forcefully raped and had a child by supposedly somebody in the cult (the Producer’s Cut is even worse in that it was her own uncle as a way to offer Michael a final sacrifice)]], and she’s been living a never ending Hell before her untimely death. If anything [[spoiler:Dr. Wynn shooting her in the hospital (or Michael killing her on the farm equipment, depending on the cut) was an act of mercy for her not wanting to suffer anymore]].

* HilariousInHindsight: A caller on the Barry Sims show has a discussion that ends in Barry mocking the idea of "Michael Myers in Space". A few years later and, while this isn't a Michael Myers movie, Jason Voorhees gets sent into space AND the future in ''Film/JasonX''. Seems someone took the idea of a serial killer in outer space seriously.
** Not just someone... it was John Carpenter himself who suggested the "Myers in Space" idea.

* NarmCharm: Creator/PaulRudd’s acting in this film is [[DullSurprise very lifeless and unconvincing]], which makes a lot of the more serious moments like him promising to protect baby Steven chuckle worthy. But given his character is meant to be the same guy who [[Film/Halloween1978 witnessed Michael trying to kill him and his babysitter as a child back in 1978]], his near catatonic performance surprisingly fits well here.

** The film is forever remembered as the entry that tried to explain Michael’s murderous origins with a mysterious cult.
** Even if you are able to look past that, it’s also remembered for the infamous TroubledProduction that plagued it.
** While the Producer’s Cut is seen as the better version of the film [[BrokenBase in some fan circles]], the one thing that first pops up in peoples minds when thinking about it is [[spoiler:Michael [[{{Squick}} being the father]] of Jamie’s baby]].

* CompleteMonster: In the theatrical cut, [[MorallyAmbiguousDoctorate Dr. Terence Wynn]] is revealed to be as monstrous as Michael himself. Wynn uses the ancient {{Cult}} of Thorn as a front for his experiments, using Michael's DNA to create evil in its purest form by impregnating female patients of Smith's Grove Sanitarium with Michael's DNA, most resulting in stillbirths. It is also discovered Wynn helped mentor Michael into being the killer he is today, and helped him escape in the [[Film/{{Halloween 1978}} first movie]]. In the [[Film/Halloween5TheRevengeOfMichaelMyers previous movie]], Wynn followed Michael in his killing spree, and [[CopKiller blew up a police station]] before abducting Michael's niece Jamie and escaping with Michael. After Jamie successfully births a new baby, Steven, Wynn plans on making Steven the next cycle of evil, and even forms a fascination with Danny Strode, trying to get him to become a killer too.
** CompleteMonster: Michael Myers. See [[Monster/{{Halloween}} here]].

* BigLippedAlligatorMoment: The lead pipe wielding Tommy Doyle begins beating the crap out of Michael in a scene involving a near seizure inducing strobe light effect. Tommy hits Michael over and over again, eventually causing some kind of viscous green slime to begin oozing out of Michael's mask. Later, when Michael's mask is found abandoned, it's completely clean, with no weird sludge coating it.
** Apparently if you thought it's silly to watch, it was equally silly to shoot. Making of footage reveals a riotous laughing crew as they pummeled the mask and as the green stuff flew out of it.
* BrokenBase: Over whether the Producer’s Cut or the Theatrical Cut is the better version of the film. Some fans prefer the Theatrical Cut for keeping Michael an intimidating force as opposed to TheDragon controlled by the cult, the ramped up gore and slasher violence and for leaving the identify of Jamie’s baby’s father anonymous. Other fans, meanwhile, believe the Producer’s Cut to be the superior cut for sticking to its cult premise [[FanDislikedExplanation despite not being fully onboard with it]], a more consistent tone with the previous entries in the "Cult of Thorn" timeline and more interactions with Dr. Loomis.

* ContestedSequel: Some consider it one of the worst entries for trying to explain Michael’s murderous origins with a cult. Others think it’s one of the more entertaining entries with good kills and some forward thinking on how it [[ContinuityNod connected all the previous films into one story]]. Still there are those who think it’s slightly above the more [[Film/Halloween5TheRevengeOfMichaelMyers despised]] [[Film/HalloweenResurrection entries]], but not enough to consider it good.
* FanDislikedExplanation: Regardless of which cut is better preferred, most fans generally dislike the Cult of Thorn setup for not only being a poorly executed backstory for Michael’s killing spree, but also felt it diminished what made Michael scary in the first place.

** Loomis is much more likable here than in the last movie, where he was portrayed as a lunatic obsessed with killing Michael at any cost, including using kids as bait.

* AuthorsSavingThrow: Michael’s mask, unlike the previous two films, is designed to be closer in appearance to the classic Captain Kirk mask. While far from perfect, it's widely considered to be one of the better masks from the sequels.

* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: Given the nature of the Cult of Thorn, it would have been incredible if instead of Dr. Wynn, it was [[Film/HalloweenIIISeasonOfTheWitch Conal Cochran]], BackFromTheDead, who was its leader. That way ''Halloween III'' could finally be tied in with the rest of the series.

* VindicatedByHistory: ''Sort of''. While many agree that the movie isn’t that good and still ranks pretty low compared to others in the series, it has gotten a bit more appreciation in recent years by fans who found it surprisingly more entertaining than [[Film/Halloween5TheRevengeOfMichaelMyers Halloween 5]] and at least felt Michael’s character wasn’t ''as'' badly mangled as he was in ''[[Film/HalloweenResurrection Resurrection]]''. The Producer’s Cut also helped in explaining certain PlotHoles that were never resolved in the Theatrical Cut and further expanding on the Cult of Thorn itself. Now, a majority of fans see it as one of the more entertaining sequels despite its major flaws.

* VindicatedByHistory: ''Sort of''. While many agree that the movie isn’t that good and still ranks pretty low compared to others in the series, it has gotten a bit more appreciation in recent years by fans who found it surprisingly more entertaining than [[Film/Halloween5TheRevengeOfMichaelMyers Halloween 5]] and at least felt Michael’s character wasn’t ''as'' badly mangled as he was in [[Film/HalloweenResurrection Resurrection]]. The Producer’s Cut also helped in explaining certain PlotHoles that were never resolved in the Theatrical Cut and further expanding on the Cult of Thorn itself. Now, a majority of fans see it as one of the more entertaining sequels despite its major flaws.

* RetroactiveRecognition: Creator/PaulRudd appears in one of his first films. Some joke that the climax of the film is ''[[Film/AntMan1 Ant-Man]] vs Michael Myers''.

* FanDislikedExplanation: Regardless of which cut is better preferred, most fans generally dislike the cult of thorn setup for not only being a poorly executed backstory for Michael’s killing spree, but also felt it diminished what made Michael scary in the first place.

* TheScrappy: Dr. Wynn and the Thorn cult as a whole, for providing a poorly done explanation of what Michael is as well as a bizarre sub-plot that goes nowhere, and [[spoiler:the [[RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil HORRIBlE implications of what they had Michael do to Jamie.]]]]]

* RetroactiveRecognition: Creator/PaulRudd appears in one of his first films. Some joke that the climax of the film is ''[[Film/{{Antman}} Ant-Man]] vs Michael Myers''.

* ContestedSequel: An odd version, seeing how there's ''two'' versions that are in contest with each other, much less the other entries in the franchise. Some fans hold the "Producer's Cut" up to be the better one for having a more involved and intricate storyline rather than just being another rehash of the first ''Halloween'', others consider the theatrical cut to be better for its ridiculously over-the-top deaths and lack of origin for who Jamie’s baby’s father really is, and still others consider both versions to be just plain terrible.
** Within the franchise itself. Some consider it one of the worst entries for trying to explain Michael’s murderous origins with a cult. Others think it’s one of the more entertaining entries with good kills and some forward thinking on how it [[ContinuityNod connected all the previous films into one story]]. Still there are those who think it’s slightly above the more [[Film/Halloween5TheRevengeOfMichaelMyers despised]] [[Film/HalloweenResurrection entries]], but not enough to consider it good.

* Narm: The nurse who helps Jamie escape is clearly smiling when she tells her to go.

* ContestedSequel: An odd version, seeing how there's ''two'' versions that are in contest with each other, much less the other entries in the franchise. Some fans hold the "Producer's Cut" up to be the better one for having a more involved and intricate storyline rather than just being another rehash of the first ''Halloween'', others consider the theatrical cut to be better for its ridiculously over-the-top deaths, and still others consider both versions to be just plain terrible.

* VindicatedByHistory: ''Sort of''. While many agree that the movie isn’t that good and still ranks pretty low compared to others in the series, it has gotten a bit more appreciation in recent years by fans who found it surprisingly more entertaining than [[Film/Halloween5TheRevengeOfMichaelMyers Halloween 5]] and at least felt Michael’s character wasn’t as badly mangled as he was in [[Film/HalloweenResurrection Resurrection]]. The Producer’s Cut also helped in explaining certain PlotHoles never resolved in the Theatrical Cut and further expanding on the Cult of Thorn itself. Now, a majority of fans see it as one of the more entreating films despite its major flaws.

* AuthorsSavingThrow: Unlike the previous two films, Michael's mask is designed to be closer in appearance to the classic Captain Kirk mask. While the mask is still criticized by some, it's widely considered to be one of the better masks from the sequels.

* NarmCharm: Creator/PaulRudd’s acting in this film is very lifeless and unconvincing, which makes a lot of the more serious moments like him promising to protect baby Steven chuckle worthy. But given his character is meant to be the same guy who [[Film/Halloween1978 witnessed Michael trying to attack him and his babysitter as a child back in 1978]], his near catatonic performance surprisingly fits well here.

* VindicatedByHistory: ''Sort of''. While many agree that the movie isn’t that good and still ranks pretty low compared to others in the series, it has gotten a bit more appreciation in recent years by fans who found it remotely more entertaining than [[Film/Halloween5TheRevengeOfMichaelMyers Halloween 5]] and at least felt Michael’s character wasn’t as badly mangled as he was in [[Film/HalloweenResurrection Resurrection]]. The Producer’s Cut also helped in explaining certain PlotHoles never resolved in the Theatrical Cut. Now, a majority of fans see it as one of the more entreating films despite its major flaws.