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* CompleteMonster: In the theatrical cut, [[MorallyAmbiguousDoctorate Dr. Terrence Wynn]] is revealed to be as monstrous as Michael himself. Wynn uses the ancient {{Cult}} of Thorn as a front for his experiments, using Michael's DNA to create evil in its purest form by impregnating female patients of Smith's Grove Sanitarium with Michael's DNA, most resulting in stillbirths. It is also discovered Wynn helped mentor Michael into being the killer he is today, and helped him escape in the [[Film/{{Halloween 1978}} first movie]]. In the [[Film/Halloween5TheRevengeOfMichaelMyers previous movie]], Wynn followed Michael in his killing spree, and [[CopKiller blew up a police station]] before abducting Michael's niece Jamie and escaping with Michael. After Jamie successfully births a new baby, Steven, Wynn plans on making Steven the next cycle of evil, and even forms a fascination with Danny Strode, trying to get him to become a killer too.

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* CompleteMonster: In the theatrical cut, [[MorallyAmbiguousDoctorate Dr. Terrence Wynn]] is revealed to be as monstrous as Michael himself. Wynn uses the ancient {{Cult}} of Thorn as a front for his experiments, using Michael's DNA to create evil in its purest form by impregnating female patients of Smith's Grove Sanitarium with Michael's DNA, most resulting in stillbirths. It is also discovered Wynn helped mentor Michael into being the killer he is today, and helped him escape in the [[Film/{{Halloween 1978}} first movie]]. In the [[Film/Halloween5TheRevengeOfMichaelMyers previous movie]], Wynn followed Michael in his killing spree, and [[CopKiller blew up a police station]] before abducting Michael's niece Jamie and escaping with Michael. After Jamie successfully births a new baby, Steven, Wynn plans on making Steven the next cycle of evil, and even forms a fascination with Danny Strode, trying to get him to become a killer too. His actions are even more abhorrent in the Producer's Cut, which contains additional scenes in which he personally murders Jamie and uses his dying breath to {{curse}} Doctor Loomis with the Mark of Thorn.
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* {{Sequelitis}}: This film's critical reception is the worst in the entire ''Halloween'' franchise, with a mere 6% on RottenTomatoes, a huge fall from grace from the [[Film/{{Halloween 1978}} original film]]'s 94%. By this point in the series, the story had strayed pretty far from the original film, which was praised for its simple story and its slow building of suspense. This film, on the other hand, was criticized for having a very messy, convoluted story, with some calling the finished film incomprehensible (although that's mostly blamed on ExecutiveMeddling). It's no wonder the [[Film/HalloweenH20TwentyYearsLater next film]] was a partial reboot. However some fans consider ''Film/HalloweenResurrection'' to be the worst in the series, and ''Film/Halloween5TheRevengeOfMichaelMyers'' not far behind.

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* {{Sequelitis}}: This film's critical reception is the worst in the entire ''Halloween'' franchise, with a mere 6% on RottenTomatoes, Website/RottenTomatoes, a huge fall from grace from the [[Film/{{Halloween 1978}} original film]]'s 94%. By this point in the series, the story had strayed pretty far from the original film, which was praised for its simple story and its slow building of suspense. This film, on the other hand, was criticized for having a very messy, convoluted story, with some calling the finished film incomprehensible (although that's mostly blamed on ExecutiveMeddling). It's no wonder the [[Film/HalloweenH20TwentyYearsLater next film]] was a partial reboot. However some fans consider ''Film/HalloweenResurrection'' to be the worst in the series, and ''Film/Halloween5TheRevengeOfMichaelMyers'' not far behind.
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** This doctors death, whose head was thrust and grated through a gate door as Michael tries to [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJ2Wu1tgoWA break through the barrier.]]

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** This doctors doctor's death, whose head was thrust and grated through a gate door as Michael tries to [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJ2Wu1tgoWA break through the barrier.]]



* {{Sequelitis}}: This film's critical reception is the worst in the entire ''Halloween'' franchise, with a mere 6% on RottenTomatoes, a huge fall from grace from the [[Film/{{Halloween 1978}} original film]]'s 94%. By this point in the series, the story had strayed pretty far from the original film, which was praised for it's simple story and it's slow building of suspense. This film, on the other hand, was criticized for having a very messy, convoluted story, with some calling the finished film incomprehensible (although that's mostly blamed on ExecutiveMeddling). It's no wonder the [[Film/HalloweenH20TwentyYearsLater next film]] was a partial reboot. However some fans consider ''Film/HalloweenResurrection'' to be the worst in the series, and ''Film/Halloween5TheRevengeOfMichaelMyers'' not far behind.

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* {{Sequelitis}}: This film's critical reception is the worst in the entire ''Halloween'' franchise, with a mere 6% on RottenTomatoes, a huge fall from grace from the [[Film/{{Halloween 1978}} original film]]'s 94%. By this point in the series, the story had strayed pretty far from the original film, which was praised for it's its simple story and it's its slow building of suspense. This film, on the other hand, was criticized for having a very messy, convoluted story, with some calling the finished film incomprehensible (although that's mostly blamed on ExecutiveMeddling). It's no wonder the [[Film/HalloweenH20TwentyYearsLater next film]] was a partial reboot. However some fans consider ''Film/HalloweenResurrection'' to be the worst in the series, and ''Film/Halloween5TheRevengeOfMichaelMyers'' not far behind.
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** This doctors death, whose head was thrust and grated through a gate door as Michael tries to [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJ2Wu1tgoWA break through the barrier.]]
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** Dr. Loomis's screaming at the end. Especially in the Producer's Cut. While pretty silly in context, Donald Pleasence's screams are VERY unsettling.
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* Nightmare Fuel: the operating room massacre towards the climax of the film and John Strode's excruciating death by electrocution.

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* Nightmare Fuel: {{Nightmare Fuel}}: the operating room massacre towards the climax of the film and John Strode's excruciating excruciatingly painful death by electrocution.
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*Nightmare Fuel: the operating room massacre towards the climax of the film and John Strode's excruciating death by electrocution.
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Nightmare fuel: John Strodes long, excruciating death from electrocution
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* HilariousInHindsight: A caller on the Barry Sims show has a discussion that ends in Barry mocking the idea of "Michael Myers in Space." A few years later and, while this isn't a Michael Myers movie, Jason Voorhees gets sent into space AND the future in ''Film/JasonX''. Seems someone took the idea of a serial killer in outer space seriously.
* RetroactiveRecognition: Creator/PaulRudd appears in one of his first films.
* {{Sequelitis}}: This film's critical reception is the worst in the entire ''Halloween'' franchise, with a mere 6% on RottenTomatoes, a huge fall from grace from the [[Film/{{Halloween1978}} original film]]'s 94%. By this point in the series, the story had strayed pretty far from the original film, which was praised for it's simple story and it's slow building of suspense. This film, on the other hand, was criticized for having a very messy, convoluted story, with some calling the finished film incomprehensible (although that's mostly blamed on ExecutiveMeddling). It's no wonder the [[Film/HalloweenH20TwentyYearsLater next film]] was a partial reboot. However some fans consider ''Film/HalloweenResurrection'' to be the worst in the series, and ''Film/Halloween5TheRevengeOfMichaelMyers'' not far behind.

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* HilariousInHindsight: A caller on the Barry Sims show has a discussion that ends in Barry mocking the idea of "Michael Myers in Space." Space". A few years later and, while this isn't a Michael Myers movie, Jason Voorhees gets sent into space AND the future in ''Film/JasonX''. Seems someone took the idea of a serial killer in outer space seriously.
* RetroactiveRecognition: Creator/PaulRudd appears in one of his first films.
films. Some joke that the climax of the film is ''Film/{{Antman}} vs Michael Myers''.
* {{Sequelitis}}: This film's critical reception is the worst in the entire ''Halloween'' franchise, with a mere 6% on RottenTomatoes, a huge fall from grace from the [[Film/{{Halloween1978}} [[Film/{{Halloween 1978}} original film]]'s 94%. By this point in the series, the story had strayed pretty far from the original film, which was praised for it's simple story and it's slow building of suspense. This film, on the other hand, was criticized for having a very messy, convoluted story, with some calling the finished film incomprehensible (although that's mostly blamed on ExecutiveMeddling). It's no wonder the [[Film/HalloweenH20TwentyYearsLater next film]] was a partial reboot. However some fans consider ''Film/HalloweenResurrection'' to be the worst in the series, and ''Film/Halloween5TheRevengeOfMichaelMyers'' not far behind.



* SurprisinglyImprovedSequel: At least, over the previous film...although to the fans, that may not being saying much.
* TheWoobie: Jamie Lloyd as in the last two movies, her baby, Kara and Danny Strode, and Kara's mother Debra. [[spoiler: Especially Debra and ESPECIALLY Jamie, who is finally killed off.]]

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* SurprisinglyImprovedSequel: At least, over the previous film... although to the fans, that may not being saying much.
much to the fans and some of them even disagree with that sentiment.
* TheWoobie: Jamie Lloyd as in the last two movies, her baby, baby Steven, Kara and Danny Strode, and Kara's mother Debra. [[spoiler: Especially Debra and ESPECIALLY Jamie, who is finally killed off.]]

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* {{Sequelitis}}: This film's critical reception is the worst in the entire ''Halloween'' franchise, with a mere 6% on RottenTomatoes, a huge fall from grace from the [[Film/{{Halloween1978}} original film]]'s 94%. By this point in the series, the story had strayed pretty far from the original film, which was praised for it's simple story and it's slow building of suspense. This film, on the other hand, was criticized for having a very messy, convoluted story, with some calling the finished film incomprehensible (although that's mostly blamed on ExecutiveMeddling). It's no wonder the [[Film/HalloweenH20TwentyYearsLater next film]] was a partial reboot. However some fans consider ''Film/HalloweenResurrection'' to be the worst in the series, and ''Film/Halloween5TheRevengeOfMichaelMyers'' not far behind.



* {{Sequelitis}}: This film's critical reception is the worst in the entire ''Halloween'' franchise, with a mere 6% on RottenTomatoes, a huge fall from grace from the [[Film/{{Halloween1978}} original film]]'s 94%. By this point in the series, the story had strayed pretty far from the original film, which was praised for it's simple story and it's slow building of suspense. This film, on the other hand, was criticized for having a very messy, convoluted story, with some calling the finished film incomprehensible (although that's mostly blamed on ExecutiveMeddling). It's no wonder the [[Film/HalloweenH20TwentyYearsLater next film]] was a partial reboot. However some fans consider ''Film/HalloweenResurrection'' to be the worst in the series, and ''Film/Halloween5TheRevengeOfMichaelMyers'' not far behind.
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* RetroactiveRecognition: Creator/PaulRudd appears in one of his first films.
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* {{Sequelitis}}: This film's critical reception is the worst in the entire ''Halloween'' franchise, with a mere 6% on RottenTomatoes, a huge fall from grace from the [[Film/{{Halloween1978}} original film]]'s 94%. By this point in the series, the story had strayed pretty far from the original film, which was praised for it's simple story and it's slow building of suspense. This film was criticized for having a very messy, convoluted story, with some calling the finished film incomprehensible (although that's mostly blamed on ExecutiveMeddling). It's no wonder the [[Film/HalloweenH20TwentyYearsLater next film]] was a partial reboot. However some fans consider ''Film/HalloweenResurrection'' to be the worst in the series, and ''Film/Halloween5TheRevengeOfMichaelMyers'' not far behind.

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* {{Sequelitis}}: This film's critical reception is the worst in the entire ''Halloween'' franchise, with a mere 6% on RottenTomatoes, a huge fall from grace from the [[Film/{{Halloween1978}} original film]]'s 94%. By this point in the series, the story had strayed pretty far from the original film, which was praised for it's simple story and it's slow building of suspense. This film film, on the other hand, was criticized for having a very messy, convoluted story, with some calling the finished film incomprehensible (although that's mostly blamed on ExecutiveMeddling). It's no wonder the [[Film/HalloweenH20TwentyYearsLater next film]] was a partial reboot. However some fans consider ''Film/HalloweenResurrection'' to be the worst in the series, and ''Film/Halloween5TheRevengeOfMichaelMyers'' not far behind.
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* {{Sequelitis}}: This film's critical reception is the worst in the entire ''Halloween'' franchise, with a mere 6% on RottenTomatoes, a huge fall from grace from the [[Film/{{Halloween1978}} original film]]'s 94%. By this point in the series, the story had strayed pretty far from the original film, which was praised for it's simple story and it's slow building of suspense. This film was criticized for having a very messy, convoluted story, with some calling the finished film incomprehensible (although that's mostly blamed on ExecutiveMeddling). It's no wonder the [[Film/HalloweenH20TwentyYearsLater next film]] was a partial reboot. However some fans consider ''Film/HalloweenResurrection'' to be the worst in the series, and ''Film/Halloween5TheRevengeOfMichaelMyers'' not far behind.

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* CompleteMonster: In the theatrical cut, [[MorallyAmbiguousDoctorate Dr. Terrence Wynn]] is revealed to be as monstrous as Michael himself. Wynn uses the ancient {{Cult}} of Thorn as a front for his experiments, using Michael's DNA to create evil in its purest form by impregnating female Sanitorium paitents with Michael's DNA, most resulting in stillbirths. It is also discovered Wynn helped mentor Michael into being the killer he is today, and helped him escape in the [[Film/{{Halloween 1978}} first movie]]. In the [[Film/Halloween5TheRevengeOfMichaelMyers previous movie]], Wynn followed Michael in his killing spree, and [[CopKiller blew up a police station]] before abducting Michael's niece Jamie and escaping with Michael. After Jamie successfully births a new baby, Steven, Wynn plans on making Steven the next cycle of evil, and even forms a fascination with Danny Strode, trying to get him to become a killer too.

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* CompleteMonster: In the theatrical cut, [[MorallyAmbiguousDoctorate Dr. Terrence Wynn]] is revealed to be as monstrous as Michael himself. Wynn uses the ancient {{Cult}} of Thorn as a front for his experiments, using Michael's DNA to create evil in its purest form by impregnating female Sanitorium paitents patients of Smith's Grove Sanitarium with Michael's DNA, most resulting in stillbirths. It is also discovered Wynn helped mentor Michael into being the killer he is today, and helped him escape in the [[Film/{{Halloween 1978}} first movie]]. In the [[Film/Halloween5TheRevengeOfMichaelMyers previous movie]], Wynn followed Michael in his killing spree, and [[CopKiller blew up a police station]] before abducting Michael's niece Jamie and escaping with Michael. After Jamie successfully births a new baby, Steven, Wynn plans on making Steven the next cycle of evil, and even forms a fascination with Danny Strode, trying to get him to become a killer too.
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* CompleteMonster: In the theatrical cut, [[MorallyAmbiguousDoctorate Dr. Terrence Wynn]] is revealed to be as monstrous as Michael himself. Wynn uses the ancient {{Cult}} of Thorn as a front for his experiments, using Michael's DNA to create evil in its purest form by impregnating female Sanitorium paitents with Michael's DNA, most resulting in stillbirths. It is also discovered Wynn helped mentor Michael into being the killer he is today, and helped him escape in the [[Film/{{Halloween 1978}} first movie]]. In the [[Film/Halloween5TheRevengeOfMichaelMyers previous movie]], Wynn followed Michael in his killing spree, and [[CopKiller blew up a police station]] before abducting Michael's niece Jamie and escaping with Michael. After Jamie successfully births a new baby, Steven, Wynn plans on making Steven the next cycle of evil, and even forms a facsnation with Danny Strode, trying to get him to become a killer too.

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* CompleteMonster: In the theatrical cut, [[MorallyAmbiguousDoctorate Dr. Terrence Wynn]] is revealed to be as monstrous as Michael himself. Wynn uses the ancient {{Cult}} of Thorn as a front for his experiments, using Michael's DNA to create evil in its purest form by impregnating female Sanitorium paitents with Michael's DNA, most resulting in stillbirths. It is also discovered Wynn helped mentor Michael into being the killer he is today, and helped him escape in the [[Film/{{Halloween 1978}} first movie]]. In the [[Film/Halloween5TheRevengeOfMichaelMyers previous movie]], Wynn followed Michael in his killing spree, and [[CopKiller blew up a police station]] before abducting Michael's niece Jamie and escaping with Michael. After Jamie successfully births a new baby, Steven, Wynn plans on making Steven the next cycle of evil, and even forms a facsnation fascination with Danny Strode, trying to get him to become a killer too.
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*CompleteMonster: In the theatrical cut, [[MorallyAmbiguousDoctorate Dr. Terrence Wynn]] is revealed to be as monstrous as Michael himself. Wynn uses the ancient {{Cult}} of Thorn as a front for his experiments, using Michael's DNA to create evil in its purest form by impregnating female Sanitorium paitents with Michael's DNA, most resulting in stillbirths. It is also discovered Wynn helped mentor Michael into being the killer he is today, and helped him escape in the [[Film/{{Halloween 1978}} first movie]]. In the [[Film/Halloween5TheRevengeOfMichaelMyers previous movie]], Wynn followed Michael in his killing spree, and [[CopKiller blew up a police station]] before abducting Michael's niece Jamie and escaping with Michael. After Jamie successfully births a new baby, Steven, Wynn plans on making Steven the next cycle of evil, and even forms a facsnation with Danny Strode, trying to get him to become a killer too.
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* ContestedSequel: An odd version, seeing how there's ''two'' versions that are in contest with each other, much less the other entries in the franchise. Some fans hold the "Producer's Cut" up to be the better one for having a more involved and intricate storyline rather than just being another rehash of the first ''Halloween'', others consider the theatrical cut to be better for its ridiculously over-the-top deaths, and still others consider both versions to be just plain terrible.



* TheWoobie: Jamie Lloyd as in the last two movies, her baby, Kara and Danny Strode, and Kara's mother Debra. [[spoiler: Especially Debra and ESPECIALLY Jamie, who is finally killed off.]]

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* TheWoobie: Jamie Lloyd as in the last two movies, her baby, Kara and Danny Strode, and Kara's mother Debra. [[spoiler: Especially Debra and ESPECIALLY Jamie, who is finally killed off.]]]]
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* BigLippedAlligatorMoment: The lead pipe wielding Tommy Doyle begins beating the crap out of Michael in a scene involving a near seizure inducing strobe light effect. Tommy hits Michael over and over again, eventually causing some kind of viscous green slime to begin oozing out of Michael's mask. Later, when Michael's mask is found abandoned, its completely clean, with no weird sludge coating it.

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* BigLippedAlligatorMoment: The lead pipe wielding Tommy Doyle begins beating the crap out of Michael in a scene involving a near seizure inducing strobe light effect. Tommy hits Michael over and over again, eventually causing some kind of viscous green slime to begin oozing out of Michael's mask. Later, when Michael's mask is found abandoned, its it's completely clean, with no weird sludge coating it.



* SurprisinglyImprovedSequel: At least, over the previous film...although to the fans that may not being saying much.

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* SurprisinglyImprovedSequel: At least, over the previous film...although to the fans fans, that may not being saying much.

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** Even worse, according to George Wilbur, who played the Shape, there was an actual "love scene" [his words, not ours] shot, but that he "kept the mask on." There's a damned good thing this didn't even make it into the Producer's Cut.



** Even worse, according to George Wilbur, who played the Shape, there was an actual "love scene" [his words, not ours] shot, but that he "kept the mask on." There's a damned good thing this didn't even make it into the Producer's Cut.
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* SurprisinglyImprovedSequel: At least, over the previous film...although to the fans that may not being saying much.
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* HilariousInHindsight: A caller on the Barry Sims show has a discussion that ends in Barry mocking the idea of "Michael Meyers in Space." A few years later and, while this isn't a Michael Meyers movie, Jason Voorhees gets sent into space AND the future in ''Film/JasonX''. Seems someone took the idea of a serial killer in outer space seriously.

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* HilariousInHindsight: A caller on the Barry Sims show has a discussion that ends in Barry mocking the idea of "Michael Meyers Myers in Space." A few years later and, while this isn't a Michael Meyers Myers movie, Jason Voorhees gets sent into space AND the future in ''Film/JasonX''. Seems someone took the idea of a serial killer in outer space seriously.
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* HilariousInHindsight: A caller on the Barry Sims show has a discussion that ends in Barry mocking the idea of "Michael Meyers in Space." A few years later and, while this isn't a Michael Meyers movie, Jason Voorhees gets sent into space AND the future in ''JasonX''. Seems someone took the idea of a serial killer in outer space seriously.

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* HilariousInHindsight: A caller on the Barry Sims show has a discussion that ends in Barry mocking the idea of "Michael Meyers in Space." A few years later and, while this isn't a Michael Meyers movie, Jason Voorhees gets sent into space AND the future in ''JasonX''.''Film/JasonX''. Seems someone took the idea of a serial killer in outer space seriously.
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* FridgeHorror: The father of Jamie's baby.
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* HilariousInHindsight: A caller on the Barry Sims show has a discussion that ends in Barry mocking the idea of "Michael Meyers in Space." A few years later and, while this isn't a Michael Meyers movie, Jason Voorhees gets sent into space AND the future in ''JasonX''. Seems someone took the idea of a serial killer in outer space seriously.



** Even worse, according to George Wilbur, who played the Shape, there was an actual "love scene" [his words, not ours] shot, but that he "kept the mask on." There's a damned good thing this didn't even make it into the Producer's Cut.

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** Even worse, according to George Wilbur, who played the Shape, there was an actual "love scene" [his words, not ours] shot, but that he "kept the mask on." There's a damned good thing this didn't even make it into the Producer's Cut.Cut.
* TheWoobie: Jamie Lloyd as in the last two movies, her baby, Kara and Danny Strode, and Kara's mother Debra. [[spoiler: Especially Debra and ESPECIALLY Jamie, who is finally killed off.]]
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** Even worse, according to George Wilbur, who played the Shape, there was an actual *ick* "love scene" [Wilbur's words, not mine] shot, but that he "kept the mask on." There's a damned good thing this didn't even make it into the Producer's Cut.

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** Even worse, according to George Wilbur, who played the Shape, there was an actual *ick* "love scene" [Wilbur's [his words, not mine] ours] shot, but that he "kept the mask on." There's a damned good thing this didn't even make it into the Producer's Cut.
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** Apparently if you thought it's silly to watch, it was equally silly to shoot. Making of footage reveals a riotous laughing crew as they pummeled the mask and as the green stuff flew out of it.
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** Even worse, according to George Wilbur, who played the Shape, there was an actual *ick* love scene shot, but that he "kept the mask on." There's a damned good thing this didn't even make it into the Producer's Cut.

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** Even worse, according to George Wilbur, who played the Shape, there was an actual *ick* love scene "love scene" [Wilbur's words, not mine] shot, but that he "kept the mask on." There's a damned good thing this didn't even make it into the Producer's Cut.
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** Even worse, according to George Wilbur, who played the Shape, there was an actual *ick* love scene shot, but that he "kept the mask on." There's a damned good thing this didn't even make it into the Producer's Cut.
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* BigLippedAlligatorMoment: The lead pipe wielding Tommy Doyle begins beating the crap out of Michael in a scene involving a near seizure inducing strobe light effect. Tommy hits Michael over and over again, eventually causing some kind of viscous green slime to begin oozing out of Michael's mask. Later, when Michael's mask is found abandoned, its completely clean, with no weird sludge coating it.
* {{Squick}}: The implication in the producer's cut that [[spoiler:Baby Steven is the result of Michael raping Jamie, his young niece]].

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