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* OvershadowedByControversy: As explained above, the band is often criticized for sounding like Led Zeppelin and Josh in particular for sounding like Robert Plant and mimicking some of his gestures (even if Josh stated that ''he did not even know who Led Zeppelin were until high school''). Some argue it stalls the evolution of rock music, while some argue it's a nice change of pace. Their first album got a negative review from Pitchfork's Jeremy Larson, who labeled it 'half-baked boomer fetishism'. This review is either extremely funny or extremely pretentious depending on who you ask (mostly the latter).

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* OvershadowedByControversy: As explained above, the band is often criticized for sounding like Led Zeppelin and Josh in particular for sounding like Robert Plant and mimicking some of his gestures (even if Josh stated that ''he did not even know who Led Zeppelin were until high school''). Some argue it stalls the evolution of rock music, while some argue it's a nice change of pace. Their first album got a negative review from Pitchfork's Jeremy Larson, who labeled it 'half-baked boomer fetishism'. This review is either extremely funny or extremely pretentious depending on who you ask (mostly the latter).
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* SoOkayItsAverage: The main response most people had to their infamous first album from fans, haters, and average listeners. The common consensus is that it plays it a bit ''too'' safe for a first album and could have benefited from drawing upon the wackier side of classic/prog rock. [[labelnote: For example]]See Rush's first album and a few of the deeper cuts from Led Zepplin's discography.[[/labelnote]]

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* SoOkayItsAverage: The main response most people had to their infamous controversial first album from fans, haters, and average listeners. The common consensus is that it plays it a bit ''too'' safe for a first album and could have benefited from drawing upon the wackier side of classic/prog rock. [[labelnote: For example]]See Rush's first album and a few of the deeper cuts from Led Zepplin's discography.[[/labelnote]]
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* SoOkayItsAverage: The main response to most people had to their infamous first album from fans, haters, and average listeners. The common conensus is that it plays it a bit ''too'' safe for a first album and could have benefited from drawing upon the wackier side of classic/prog rock [[labelnote: For example]] See Rush's first album and a few of the deeper cuts from Led Zepplin's discography [[/labelnote]].

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* SoOkayItsAverage: The main response to most people had to their infamous first album from fans, haters, and average listeners. The common conensus consensus is that it plays it a bit ''too'' safe for a first album and could have benefited from drawing upon the wackier side of classic/prog rock rock. [[labelnote: For example]] See example]]See Rush's first album and a few of the deeper cuts from Led Zepplin's discography [[/labelnote]].discography.[[/labelnote]]
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* SerialNumbersFiledOff / TheyCopiedItSoItSucks: Often accused of being this to Led Zeppelin. [[Administrivia/RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment Again, that's all we have to say about that]].
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* HypeBacklash: Got this reception ''hard'' to their first album, with it being decried as the "half-baked boomer fetishism" in a notorious review by Pitchfork and earned a rare "NOT GOOD" video from WebVideo/TheNeedleDrop. Though funnily enough this backlash ended up getting it's own backlash, even from non-fans of the group, for being downright apocalyptic and decrying the band as heralding the death of Rock n' Roll because of '''one''' okay, bordering on all-right album from a group where half of their members weren't even ''twenty'' when it came out.
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* MemeticLoser: Considered this by their [[VocalMinority vocal]] {{Hatedom}} for being "rip-offs" of Music/LedZeppelin. [[Administrivia/RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment And that's all we have to say about that]].
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* HypeBacklash: Got this reception ''hard'' to their first album, with it being decried as the "half-baked boomer fetishism" in a notorious review by Pitchfork and earned a rare "NOT GOOD" video from WebVideo/TheNeedleDrop. Though funnily enough this backlash ended up getting it's own backlash, even from non-fans of the group, for being downright apocalyptic and decrying the band as heralding the death of Rock n' Roll because of one okay, bordering on all-right album from a group where half of their members weren't even ''twenty'' when it came out.

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* HypeBacklash: Got this reception ''hard'' to their first album, with it being decried as the "half-baked boomer fetishism" in a notorious review by Pitchfork and earned a rare "NOT GOOD" video from WebVideo/TheNeedleDrop. Though funnily enough this backlash ended up getting it's own backlash, even from non-fans of the group, for being downright apocalyptic and decrying the band as heralding the death of Rock n' Roll because of one '''one''' okay, bordering on all-right album from a group where half of their members weren't even ''twenty'' when it came out.

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* HypeBacklash: Got this reception ''hard'' to their first album, with it being decried as the "half-baked boomer fetishism" in a notorious review by Pitchfork and earned a rare "NOT GOOD" video from WebVideo/TheNeedleDrop. Though funnily enough this backlash ended up getting it's own backlash, even from non-fans of the group, for being downright apocalyptic and decrying the band as heralding the death of Rock n' Roll because of one okay, bordering on all-right album from a group where half of their members weren't even ''twenty'' when it came out.



* SoOkayItsAverage: The main response to most people had to their infamous first album from fans, haters, and average listeners. The common conensus is that it plays it a bit ''too'' safe for a first album and could have benefited from drawing upon the wakier side of classic/prog rock [[labelnote: For example]] See Rush's first album and a few of the deeper cuts from Led Zepplin's discography [[/labelnote]].

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* SoOkayItsAverage: The main response to most people had to their infamous first album from fans, haters, and average listeners. The common conensus is that it plays it a bit ''too'' safe for a first album and could have benefited from drawing upon the wakier wackier side of classic/prog rock [[labelnote: For example]] See Rush's first album and a few of the deeper cuts from Led Zepplin's discography [[/labelnote]].
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* SoOkayItsAverage: The main response to most people had to their infamous first album from fans, haters, and average listeners. The common conensus is that it plays it a bit ''too'' safe for a first album and could have benefited from drawing upon the wakier side of classic/prog rock [[labelnote: For example]] See Rush's first album and a few of the deeper cuts from Led Zepplin's discography.[[/labelnote]]

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* SoOkayItsAverage: The main response to most people had to their infamous first album from fans, haters, and average listeners. The common conensus is that it plays it a bit ''too'' safe for a first album and could have benefited from drawing upon the wakier side of classic/prog rock [[labelnote: For example]] See Rush's first album and a few of the deeper cuts from Led Zepplin's discography.[[/labelnote]]discography [[/labelnote]].
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* SoOkayItsAverage: The main response to most people had to their infamous first album from fans, haters, and average listeners. The common conensus is that it plays it a bit ''too'' safe for a first album and could have benefited from drawing upon the wakier side of classic/prog rock [[labelnote: For example]] See Rush's first album and a few of the deeper cuts from Led Zepplin's discography.[[/labelnote]]

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* Main/{{Narm}}: Many consider their lyrics to be this, especially those incorporating {{fantasy}} or "[[NewAgeRetroHippie hippie]]" themes. Nevertheless, countless fans [[NarmCharm adore them anyway]].
* OvershadowedByControversy: As explained above, the band is often criticized for sounding like Led Zeppelin and Josh in particular for sounding like Robert Plant and mimicking some of his gestures (even if Josh stated that he did not even know who Led Zeppelin were until high school). Some argue it stalls the evolution of rock music, while some argue it's a nice change of pace. Their first album got a negative review from Pitchfork's Jeremy Larson, who labeled it 'half-baked boomer fetishism'. This review is either extremely funny or extremely pretentious depending on who you ask (mostly the latter).

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* Main/{{Narm}}: Many consider their lyrics to be this, especially those incorporating {{fantasy}} or "[[NewAgeRetroHippie hippie]]" themes. Nevertheless, countless fans [[NarmCharm adore them anyway]].
* OvershadowedByControversy: As explained above, the band is often criticized for sounding like Led Zeppelin and Josh in particular for sounding like Robert Plant and mimicking some of his gestures (even if Josh stated that he ''he did not even know who Led Zeppelin were until high school).school''). Some argue it stalls the evolution of rock music, while some argue it's a nice change of pace. Their first album got a negative review from Pitchfork's Jeremy Larson, who labeled it 'half-baked boomer fetishism'. This review is either extremely funny or extremely pretentious depending on who you ask (mostly the latter).
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* OvershadowedByControversy: As explained above, the band is often criticized for sounding like Led Zeppelin and Josh in particular for sounding like Robert Plant and mimicking some of his gestures. Some argue it stalls the evolution of rock music, while some argue it's a nice change of pace. Their first album got a negative review from Pitchfork's Jeremy Larson, who labeled it 'half-baked boomer fetishism'. This review is either extremely funny or extremely pretentious depending on who you ask.
* SerialNumbersFiledOff / TheyCopiedItSoItSucks: Often accused (rightfully or not) of being this to Led Zeppelin. [[Administrivia/RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment Again, that's all we have to say about that]].

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* OvershadowedByControversy: As explained above, the band is often criticized for sounding like Led Zeppelin and Josh in particular for sounding like Robert Plant and mimicking some of his gestures.gestures (even if Josh stated that he did not even know who Led Zeppelin were until high school). Some argue it stalls the evolution of rock music, while some argue it's a nice change of pace. Their first album got a negative review from Pitchfork's Jeremy Larson, who labeled it 'half-baked boomer fetishism'. This review is either extremely funny or extremely pretentious depending on who you ask.
ask (mostly the latter).
* SerialNumbersFiledOff / TheyCopiedItSoItSucks: Often accused (rightfully or not) of being this to Led Zeppelin. [[Administrivia/RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment Again, that's all we have to say about that]].
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* MemeticLoser: Considered this by their [[VocalMinority vocal]] {{Hatedom}}. It’s become a bit of a joke to play a song by Led Zeppelin and then state that Greta Van Fleet did it instead.

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* MemeticLoser: Considered this by their [[VocalMinority vocal]] {{Hatedom}}. It’s become a bit {{Hatedom}} for being "rip-offs" of a joke Music/LedZeppelin. [[Administrivia/RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment And that's all we have to play a song by Led Zeppelin and then state that Greta Van Fleet did it instead.say about that]].



* SerialNumbersFiledOff / TheyCopiedItSoItSucks: Often accused (rightfully or not) of being this to Led Zeppelin. [[Administrivia/RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment And that's all we have to say about that]].

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* SerialNumbersFiledOff / TheyCopiedItSoItSucks: Often accused (rightfully or not) of being this to Led Zeppelin. [[Administrivia/RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment And Again, that's all we have to say about that]].
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* OvershadowedByControversy: As explained above, the band is often criticized for sounding like Led Zeppelin and Josh in particular for sounding like Robert Plant and mimicking some of his gestures. Some argue it stalls the evolution of rock music, while some argue it's a nice change of pace. Their first album got a pretty uncompromisingly brutal review (mentioned below) from Pitchfork's Jeremy Larson, who labeled it 'half-baked boomer fetishism'. This review is either extremely funny or extremely pretentious depending on who you ask.

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* OvershadowedByControversy: As explained above, the band is often criticized for sounding like Led Zeppelin and Josh in particular for sounding like Robert Plant and mimicking some of his gestures. Some argue it stalls the evolution of rock music, while some argue it's a nice change of pace. Their first album got a pretty uncompromisingly brutal negative review (mentioned below) from Pitchfork's Jeremy Larson, who labeled it 'half-baked boomer fetishism'. This review is either extremely funny or extremely pretentious depending on who you ask.

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* SnarkBait: Despite getting a [=#3=] album on the Billboard 200 and [[https://www.forbes.com/sites/matthewleimkuehler/2018/12/07/greta-van-fleet-twenty-one-pilots-fall-out-boy-grammy-award-2019-rock-nominations/#534415fd2e5a four Grammy nominations]] (one of which they won), ''Anthem of the Peaceful Army'' was met with largely mixed-to-negative reception, including [[https://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/greta-van-fleet-anthem-of-the-peaceful-army/ a now-infamous pan]] from Pitchfork.

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* SnarkBait: Despite getting a [=#3=] album on the Billboard 200 and [[https://www.forbes.com/sites/matthewleimkuehler/2018/12/07/greta-van-fleet-twenty-one-pilots-fall-out-boy-grammy-award-2019-rock-nominations/#534415fd2e5a four Grammy nominations]] (one of which they won), ''Anthem of the Peaceful Army'' was met with largely mixed-to-negative reception, including [[https://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/greta-van-fleet-anthem-of-the-peaceful-army/ a now-infamous pan]] from Pitchfork.----
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* OvershadowedByControversy: As explained above, the band is often criticized for sounding like Led Zeppelin and Josh in particular for sounding like Robert Plant and mimicking some of his gestures. Some argue it stalls the evolution of rock music, while some argue it's a nice change of pace. Their first album got a pretty uncompromisingly brutal review (mentioned below) from Pitchfork's Jeremy Larson, who labeled it 'half-baked boomer fetishism'. This review is either extremely funny or extremely pretentious depending on who you ask.
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* MemeticLoser: Once again, to fans of Led Zeppelin for ripping off their style. It’s become a bit of a joke to play a song by Led Zeppelin and then state that Greta Van Fleet did it instead.

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* MemeticLoser: Once again, to fans of Led Zeppelin for ripping off Considered this by their style.[[VocalMinority vocal]] {{Hatedom}}. It’s become a bit of a joke to play a song by Led Zeppelin and then state that Greta Van Fleet did it instead.



* SnarkBait: Despite getting a [=#3=] album on the Billboard 200 and [[https://www.forbes.com/sites/matthewleimkuehler/2018/12/07/greta-van-fleet-twenty-one-pilots-fall-out-boy-grammy-award-2019-rock-nominations/#534415fd2e5a four Grammy nominations]], ''Anthem of the Peaceful Army'' was met with largely mixed-to-negative reception, including [[https://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/greta-van-fleet-anthem-of-the-peaceful-army/ a now-infamous pan]] from Pitchfork.

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* SnarkBait: Despite getting a [=#3=] album on the Billboard 200 and [[https://www.forbes.com/sites/matthewleimkuehler/2018/12/07/greta-van-fleet-twenty-one-pilots-fall-out-boy-grammy-award-2019-rock-nominations/#534415fd2e5a four Grammy nominations]], nominations]] (one of which they won), ''Anthem of the Peaceful Army'' was met with largely mixed-to-negative reception, including [[https://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/greta-van-fleet-anthem-of-the-peaceful-army/ a now-infamous pan]] from Pitchfork.
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* IAmNotShazam: Their name sounds like it should refer to a woman, not a group. On a whim, they named themselves after a resident of their hometown who they thought had a cool name (Gret'''n'''a Van Fleet), without initially telling her - when they first started performing live, their namesake would be confused by acquaintances asking if she was planning on putting on a show.

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* Main/{{Narm}}: Many consider their lyrics to be this, especially those incorporating {{fantasy}} or "[[NewAgeRetroHippie hippie]]" themes.
** NarmCharm: Nevertheless, countless fans (having given their songs over 200 million streams as of now) adore them anyway.

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* Main/{{Narm}}: Many consider their lyrics to be this, especially those incorporating {{fantasy}} or "[[NewAgeRetroHippie hippie]]" themes.
** NarmCharm:
themes. Nevertheless, countless fans (having given their songs over 200 million streams as of now) [[NarmCharm adore them anyway.anyway]].
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* MemeticLoser: Once again, to fans of Led Zeppelin for ripping off their style. It’s become a bit of a joke to play a song by Led Zeppelin and then state that Greta Van Fleet did it instead.
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* SerialNumbersFiledOff / TheyCopiedItSoItSucks: Often accused (rightfully or not) of being this to Led Zeppelin. [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment And that's all we have to say about that]].

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* SerialNumbersFiledOff / TheyCopiedItSoItSucks: Often accused (rightfully or not) of being this to Led Zeppelin. [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment [[Administrivia/RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment And that's all we have to say about that]].
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* SerialNumbersFiledOff: Often accused (rightfully or not) of being this to Led Zeppelin. [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment And that's all we have to say about that]].

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* SerialNumbersFiledOff: SerialNumbersFiledOff / TheyCopiedItSoItSucks: Often accused (rightfully or not) of being this to Led Zeppelin. [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment And that's all we have to say about that]].

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* BrokenBase: Oh, where do we begin. Most of this is because of the fact that the band is a ripoff of Music/LedZeppelin.
* FaceOfTheBand: Josh Kiszka... solely because he sings exactly like Music/RobertPlant.
* GuiltyPleasure: [[WesternAnimation/{{Caillou}} Oh yes, daddy]]! No pun intended. Even Generation Xers will admit that GVF apply to this trope.
* Main/{{Narm}}: The vocals and lyrics have been considered dull by newer music fans and dated by Gen Xers. Whereas Robert Plant's singing felt genuine, Josh Kiszka is just chasing dollar bills.
* TheScrappy: Currently the embodiment of all the negative reception GVF has gotten. This is especially ironic when you consider the fact that a band as legendary as Music/{{Judas Priest}} managed to release their critically-acclaimed ''Firepower'' in the same year as ''Anthem of the Peaceful Army''.
* SnarkBait: Despite getting a [=#3=] album on the Billboard 200, ''Anthem of the Peaceful Army'' was met with overall negative reception, even an extremely harsh review from Pitchfork.

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* BrokenBase: Oh, where do we begin. Most of this is because of the fact Between fans who think that they are [[SerialNumbersFiledOff too similar]] to Music/LedZeppelin (and, to a lesser extent, other [[TheSeventies 70s]] ClassicRock groups such as {{Music/Aerosmith}} and {{Music/Rush}}) and those who think that they are already unique enough.
* CriticalDissonance: Despite [[https://www.metacritic.com/music/anthem-of-the-peaceful-army/greta-van-fleet mixed-to-negative reviews]],
the band is managed to score a ripoff of Music/LedZeppelin.
[[https://www.billboard.com/music/greta-van-fleet/chart-history/billboard-200/song/1104727 #3 album]] on the Billboard 200, which proceeded to stay on the chart for eleven weeks afterwards.
* FaceOfTheBand: Josh Kiszka... solely because he sings exactly like Music/RobertPlant.
Kiszka.
* GuiltyPleasure: [[WesternAnimation/{{Caillou}} Oh yes, daddy]]! No pun intended. Even Generation Xers will admit that GVF apply There are people who consider them to this trope.
be imitative of Led Zeppelin, yet appreciate their musical abilities nonetheless.
* Main/{{Narm}}: The vocals and Many consider their lyrics have been considered dull by newer music fans and dated by Gen Xers. Whereas Robert Plant's singing felt genuine, Josh Kiszka is just chasing dollar bills.
* TheScrappy: Currently the embodiment of all the negative reception GVF has gotten. This is
to be this, especially ironic when you consider the fact that a band as legendary as Music/{{Judas Priest}} managed to release those incorporating {{fantasy}} or "[[NewAgeRetroHippie hippie]]" themes.
** NarmCharm: Nevertheless, countless fans (having given
their critically-acclaimed ''Firepower'' in the same year songs over 200 million streams as ''Anthem of the Peaceful Army''.
now) adore them anyway.
* SerialNumbersFiledOff: Often accused (rightfully or not) of being this to Led Zeppelin. [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment And that's all we have to say about that]].
* SnarkBait: Despite getting a [=#3=] album on the Billboard 200, 200 and [[https://www.forbes.com/sites/matthewleimkuehler/2018/12/07/greta-van-fleet-twenty-one-pilots-fall-out-boy-grammy-award-2019-rock-nominations/#534415fd2e5a four Grammy nominations]], ''Anthem of the Peaceful Army'' was met with overall negative largely mixed-to-negative reception, even an extremely harsh review including [[https://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/greta-van-fleet-anthem-of-the-peaceful-army/ a now-infamous pan]] from Pitchfork.
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* GuiltyPleasure: [[WesternAnimation/{{Caillou}} Oh, yes daddy]]! No pun intended. Even Generation Xers will admit that GVF apply to this trope.

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* GuiltyPleasure: [[WesternAnimation/{{Caillou}} Oh, yes Oh yes, daddy]]! No pun intended. Even Generation Xers will admit that GVF apply to this trope.
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* Main/{{Narm}}: The lyrics have been considered dull by newer music fans and dated by Gen Xers. Whereas Robert Plant's singing felt genuine, Josh Kiszka is just chasing dollar bills.

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* Main/{{Narm}}: The vocals and lyrics have been considered dull by newer music fans and dated by Gen Xers. Whereas Robert Plant's singing felt genuine, Josh Kiszka is just chasing dollar bills.
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* Main/Narm: The lyrics have been considered dull by newer music fans and dated by Gen Xers. Whereas Robert Plant's singing felt genuine, Josh Kiszka is just chasing dollar bills.

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* Main/Narm: Main/{{Narm}}: The lyrics have been considered dull by newer music fans and dated by Gen Xers. Whereas Robert Plant's singing felt genuine, Josh Kiszka is just chasing dollar bills.
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* Narm: The lyrics have been considered dull by newer music fans and dated by Gen Xers. Whereas Robert Plant's singing felt genuine, Josh Kiszka is just chasing dollar bills.

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* Narm: Main/Narm: The lyrics have been considered dull by newer music fans and dated by Gen Xers. Whereas Robert Plant's singing felt genuine, Josh Kiszka is just chasing dollar bills.
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* BrokenBase: Oh, where do we begin. Most of this is because of the fact that the band is a ripoff of Music/LedZeppelin.
* FaceOfTheBand: Josh Kiszka... solely because he sings exactly like Music/RobertPlant.
* GuiltyPleasure: [[WesternAnimation/{{Caillou}} Oh, yes daddy]]! No pun intended. Even Generation Xers will admit that GVF apply to this trope.
* Narm: The lyrics have been considered dull by newer music fans and dated by Gen Xers. Whereas Robert Plant's singing felt genuine, Josh Kiszka is just chasing dollar bills.
* TheScrappy: Currently the embodiment of all the negative reception GVF has gotten. This is especially ironic when you consider the fact that a band as legendary as Music/{{Judas Priest}} managed to release their critically-acclaimed ''Firepower'' in the same year as ''Anthem of the Peaceful Army''.
* SnarkBait: Despite getting a [=#3=] album on the Billboard 200, ''Anthem of the Peaceful Army'' was met with overall negative reception, even an extremely harsh review from Pitchfork.

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