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* RealismInducedHorror: One of the main reasons Preston and Priscilla Northwest are [[JerksAreWorseThanVillains considered two of the most despicable characters on the show]] despite them being normal (albeit very wealthy) humans in a setting full of weird things, including the Lumberjack Ghost in this particular episode. What makes them stand out from the likes of even Bill Cipher is their [[AbusiveParents horrific treatment]] of their daughter [[JerkassWoobie Pacifica]], doing their best to mold her into a bitchy, elitist CompetitionFreak because that's what ''they'' want her to be, regardless of Pacifica's own desires and goals. On top of that, she's been conditioned to shut up and obey at the sound of a bell, all but stating they've abused her into being afraid of defying them or standing up for herself.
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* RealismInducedHorror: One of the main reasons Preston and Priscilla Northwest are [[JerksAreWorseThanVillains considered two of the most despicable characters on the show]] despite them being normal (albeit very wealthy) humans in a setting full of weird things, including the Lumberjack Ghost in this particular episode. What makes them stand out from the likes of even Bill Cipher is their [[AbusiveParents horrific treatment]] of their daughter [[JerkassWoobie Pacifica]], doing their best to [[ToxicFamilyInfluence mold her into a bitchy, elitist elitist]] CompetitionFreak because that's what ''they'' want her to be, regardless of Pacifica's own desires and goals. On top of that, she's been conditioned to shut up and obey at the sound of a bell, all but stating they've abused her into being afraid of defying them or standing up for herself.
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* SugarWiki/SheReallyCanAct: Jackie Buscarino completely nails Pacifica's broken delivery towards the end of the episode after she realizes just how monstrous her family is, managing to make her sound like she's on the verge of crying yet never quite losing Pacifica's vocal tone in the process.
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** Was Pacifica deeply hurt by Dipper calling her "another link in the world's worst chain" because they both knew that Pacifica's anxiety about her parents trying to salvage their skins was the sole catalyst for her enlisting the help of Dipper (though they both later helped each other affirm that her fear of hurting the outside world was altruistic enough to completely overshadow that previous apprehension, thereby "breaking her chain") and even if he was just acting in the heat of the moment, genuinely meant what he said? Or was it because Dipper was the only person who ever treated Pacifica like an actual human being, before letting her anxiety around her parents relegate him to seeing him as less-than-human scum, removing the one true connection she had to the outside world? Was it both at the same time?
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** Was Pacifica deeply hurt by Dipper calling her "another link in the world's worst chain" because they both knew that Pacifica's anxiety about her parents trying to salvage their skins was the sole catalyst for her enlisting the help of Dipper (though they both later helped each other affirm that her fear of hurting the outside world was altruistic enough to completely overshadow that previous apprehension, thereby "breaking her chain") and even if he was just acting in the heat of the moment, genuinely meant what he said? Or was it because Dipper was the only person who ever treated Pacifica like an actual human being, before letting her anxiety around her parents relegate him to seeing him her as less-than-human scum, removing the one true connection she had to the outside world? Was it both at the same time?
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Were the agents at the party just to track activity on the machine, or were they investigating the Northwest legacy and how it's laden with fraud?
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** Were the agents at the party just to track activity on the machine, or were they investigating the Northwest legacy and how it's laden withfraud?fraud?
** Was Pacifica deeply hurt by Dipper calling her "another link in the world's worst chain" because they both knew that Pacifica's anxiety about her parents trying to salvage their skins was the sole catalyst for her enlisting the help of Dipper (though they both later helped each other affirm that her fear of hurting the outside world was altruistic enough to completely overshadow that previous apprehension, thereby "breaking her chain") and even if he was just acting in the heat of the moment, genuinely meant what he said? Or was it because Dipper was the only person who ever treated Pacifica like an actual human being, before letting her anxiety around her parents relegate him to seeing him as less-than-human scum, removing the one true connection she had to the outside world? Was it both at the same time?
** Were the agents at the party just to track activity on the machine, or were they investigating the Northwest legacy and how it's laden with
** Was Pacifica deeply hurt by Dipper calling her "another link in the world's worst chain" because they both knew that Pacifica's anxiety about her parents trying to salvage their skins was the sole catalyst for her enlisting the help of Dipper (though they both later helped each other affirm that her fear of hurting the outside world was altruistic enough to completely overshadow that previous apprehension, thereby "breaking her chain") and even if he was just acting in the heat of the moment, genuinely meant what he said? Or was it because Dipper was the only person who ever treated Pacifica like an actual human being, before letting her anxiety around her parents relegate him to seeing him as less-than-human scum, removing the one true connection she had to the outside world? Was it both at the same time?
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* MoralEventHorizon: Any ounce of humanity in Preston and Priscilla is quickly extinguished when they allow everyone in their party to die to save themselves.
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** Pacifica doesn't get a break during this episode.
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** Pacifica doesn't get a break during this episode. Even after bonding with Dipper and helping him see that she's a very, very decent person at heart, there's no telling how her parents will punish her for defying their orders.
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* RealismInducedHorror: One of the main reasons Preston and Priscilla Northwest are [[JerksAreWorseThanVillains considered two of the most despicable characters on the show]] despite them being normal (albeit very wealthy) humans in a setting full of weird things. What makes them stand out from the likes of even Bill Cipher is their [[AbusiveParents horrific treatment]] of their daughter [[JerkassWoobie Pacifica]], doing their best to mold her into a bitchy, elitist CompetitionFreak because that's what ''they'' want her to be, regardless of Pacifica's own desires and goals. On top of that, she's been conditioned to shut up and obey at the sound of a bell, all but stating they've abused her into being afraid of defying them or standing up for herself.
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* RealismInducedHorror: One of the main reasons Preston and Priscilla Northwest are [[JerksAreWorseThanVillains considered two of the most despicable characters on the show]] despite them being normal (albeit very wealthy) humans in a setting full of weird things.things, including the Lumberjack Ghost in this particular episode. What makes them stand out from the likes of even Bill Cipher is their [[AbusiveParents horrific treatment]] of their daughter [[JerkassWoobie Pacifica]], doing their best to mold her into a bitchy, elitist CompetitionFreak because that's what ''they'' want her to be, regardless of Pacifica's own desires and goals. On top of that, she's been conditioned to shut up and obey at the sound of a bell, all but stating they've abused her into being afraid of defying them or standing up for herself.
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* RealismInducedHorror: One of the main reasons Preston and Priscilla Northwest are [[JerksAreWorseThanVillains considered two of the most despicable characters on the show despite them being normal (albeit very wealthy) humans in a setting full of weird things. What makes them stand out from the likes of even Bill Cipher is their [[AbusiveParents horrific treatment]] of their daughter [[JerkassWoobie Pacifica]], doing their best to mold her into a bitchy, elitist CompetitionFreak because that's what ''they'' want her to be, regardless of Pacifica's own desires and goals. On top of that, she's been conditioned to shut up and obey at the sound of a bell, all but stating they've abused her into being afraid of defying them or standing up for herself.
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* RealismInducedHorror: One of the main reasons Preston and Priscilla Northwest are [[JerksAreWorseThanVillains considered two of the most despicable characters on the show show]] despite them being normal (albeit very wealthy) humans in a setting full of weird things. What makes them stand out from the likes of even Bill Cipher is their [[AbusiveParents horrific treatment]] of their daughter [[JerkassWoobie Pacifica]], doing their best to mold her into a bitchy, elitist CompetitionFreak because that's what ''they'' want her to be, regardless of Pacifica's own desires and goals. On top of that, she's been conditioned to shut up and obey at the sound of a bell, all but stating they've abused her into being afraid of defying them or standing up for herself.
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* RealismInducedHorror: This trope is one of the main reasons Preston and Priscilla Northwest are considered two of the most despicable characters on the show despite them being normal (albiet very wealthy) humans in a setting full of weird things. What makes them stand out from the likes of even Bill Cipher is their [[AbusiveParents horrific treatment]] of their daughter [[JerkassWoobie Pacifica]], doing their best to mold her into a bitchy, elitist CompetitionFreak because that's what ''they'' want her to be, regardless of Pacifica's own desires and goals. On top of that, she's been conditioned to shut up and obey at the sound of a bell, all but stating they've abused her into being afraid of defying them or standing up for herself.
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* RealismInducedHorror: This trope is one One of the main reasons Preston and Priscilla Northwest are [[JerksAreWorseThanVillains considered two of the most despicable characters on the show despite them being normal (albiet (albeit very wealthy) humans in a setting full of weird things. What makes them stand out from the likes of even Bill Cipher is their [[AbusiveParents horrific treatment]] of their daughter [[JerkassWoobie Pacifica]], doing their best to mold her into a bitchy, elitist CompetitionFreak because that's what ''they'' want her to be, regardless of Pacifica's own desires and goals. On top of that, she's been conditioned to shut up and obey at the sound of a bell, all but stating they've abused her into being afraid of defying them or standing up for herself.
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* RealismInducedHorror: This trope is one of the main reasons Preston and Priscilla Northwest are considered two of the most despicable characters on the show despite them being normal (albiet very wealthy) humans in a setting full of weird things. What makes them stand out from the likes of even Bill Cipher is their [[AbusiveParents horrific treatment]] of their daughter [[JerkassWoobie Pacifica]], doing their best to mold her into a bitchy, elitist CompetitionFreak because that's what ''they'' want her to be, regardless of Pacifica's own desires and goals. On top of that, she's been conditioned to shut up and obey at the sound of a bell, all but stating they've abused her into being afraid of defying them or standing up for herself.
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* FridgeHorror: As NothingIsScarier notes, it's frightening to imagine what conditioning Pacifica went through to make her obey at the command of a bell. Or for that matter what kind of punishment awaits her now.
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* FridgeHorror: As NothingIsScarier notes, it's It's frightening to imagine what conditioning Pacifica went through to make her obey at the command of a bell. Or for that matter what kind of punishment awaits her now.
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** The Lumberjack too. He wanted "lumber justice" denied to him, and Dipper for him was a SpannerInTheWorks that the Northwests hired.
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** The Lumberjack too. He wanted the "lumber justice" denied to him, and Dipper for him was a SpannerInTheWorks that the Northwests hired.
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* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: This episode caused much of the fanbase to do a 180 on their feelings towards Pacifica.
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** The Lumberjack too. He wanted "lumber justice" denied to him, and Dipper for him was a SpannerInTheWorks that the Northwests hired.
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** The Lumberjack too. He wanted "lumber justice" denied to him, and Dipper for him was a SpannerInTheWorks that the Northwests hired.hired.
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* AdultFear: While it's not presented as such, the notion that your own less-than-perfect choices as a parent could screw your child up.
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* CounterpartComparison:
** In this episode, Pacifica shares a lot in common with [[WesternAnimation/OverTheGardenWall Lorna]]. "The ringing of the bell commands you!"
** The Lumberjack is also similar to [[WesternAnimation/OverTheGardenWall the Woodsman]].
** In this episode, Pacifica shares a lot in common with [[WesternAnimation/OverTheGardenWall Lorna]]. "The ringing of the bell commands you!"
** The Lumberjack is also similar to [[WesternAnimation/OverTheGardenWall the Woodsman]].
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* NightmareRetardant: The Lumberjack ghost was intimidating when he first appeared, then he grew hair and started to look like [[Franchise/SonicTheHedgehog Dr Eggman]].
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* AdultFear: While it's not presented as such, the nation that your own less-than-perfect choices as a parent could screw your child up.
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* AdultFear: While it's not presented as such, the nation notion that your own less-than-perfect choices as a parent could screw your child up.
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* FridgeHorror: As NothingIsScarier notes, it's frightening to imagine what conditioning Pacifica went through to make her obey at the command of a bell. Or for that matter what kind of punishment awaits her now...
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* FridgeHorror: As NothingIsScarier notes, it's frightening to imagine what conditioning Pacifica went through to make her obey at the command of a bell. Or for that matter what kind of punishment awaits her now...now.
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* AdultFear: While it's not presented as such, the nation that your own less-than-perfect choices as a parent could screw your child up.
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** The Lumberjack is also similar to the Woodsman.
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** The Lumberjack is also similar to [[WesternAnimation/OverTheGardenWall the Woodsman.Woodsman]].
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** The Lumberjack is also similar to the Woodsman
* FridgeHorror: As NothingIsScarier notes, it's frightening to imagine what conditioning Pacifica went through to make her obey at the command of a bell.
* FridgeHorror: As NothingIsScarier notes, it's frightening to imagine what conditioning Pacifica went through to make her obey at the command of a bell.
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** The Lumberjack is also similar to the Woodsman
Woodsman.
* FridgeHorror: As NothingIsScarier notes, it's frightening to imagine what conditioning Pacifica went through to make her obey at the command of a bell. Or for that matter what kind of punishment awaits her now...
* FridgeHorror: As NothingIsScarier notes, it's frightening to imagine what conditioning Pacifica went through to make her obey at the command of a bell. Or for that matter what kind of punishment awaits her now...
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** The Lumberjack as well. He wanted "lumber justice" denied to him, and Dipper for him was a SpannerInTheWorks that the Northwests hired.
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** The Lumberjack as well.too. He wanted "lumber justice" denied to him, and Dipper for him was a SpannerInTheWorks that the Northwests hired.
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** The Lumberjack is also similar to the Woodsman
* FridgeHorror: As NothingIsScarier notes, it's frightening to imagine what conditioning Pacifica went through to make her obey at the command of a bell.
* FridgeHorror: As NothingIsScarier notes, it's frightening to imagine what conditioning Pacifica went through to make her obey at the command of a bell.
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Misuse of the trope to shoehorn Walkers.
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** The Lumberjack as well. He wanted "lumber justice" denied to him, and Dipper for him was a SpannerInTheWorks that the Northwests hired.
* UncannyValley: Fans of the series were openly unsettled by Pacifica's reaction towards her parents abuse. Two reviewers said it best while watching the episode
-->'''Robert Walker:''' That whole bit with the bell said everything you needed to know about Pacifica's childhood and I'm like "Oh my god".
-->'''Doug Walker:''' it was like the creepiest thing!.
* UncannyValley: Fans of the series were openly unsettled by Pacifica's reaction towards her parents abuse. Two reviewers said it best while watching the episode
-->'''Robert Walker:''' That whole bit with the bell said everything you needed to know about Pacifica's childhood and I'm like "Oh my god".
-->'''Doug Walker:''' it was like the creepiest thing!.
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** The Lumberjack as well. He wanted "lumber justice" denied to him, and Dipper for him was a SpannerInTheWorks that the Northwests hired.
* UncannyValley: Fans of the series were openly unsettled by Pacifica's reaction towards her parents abuse. Two reviewers said it best while watching the episode
-->'''Robert Walker:''' That whole bit with the bell said everything you needed to know about Pacifica's childhood and I'm like "Oh my god".
-->'''Doug Walker:''' it was like the creepiest thing!.hired.
* UncannyValley: Fans of the series were openly unsettled by Pacifica's reaction towards her parents abuse. Two reviewers said it best while watching the episode
-->'''Robert Walker:''' That whole bit with the bell said everything you needed to know about Pacifica's childhood and I'm like "Oh my god".
-->'''Doug Walker:''' it was like the creepiest thing!.
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** The Lumberjack as well. He wanted "lumber justice" denied to him, and Dipper for him was a SpannerInTheWorks that the Northwests hired.
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** The Lumberjack as well. He wanted "lumber justice" denied to him, and Dipper for him was a SpannerInTheWorks that the Northwests hired.hired.
* UncannyValley: Fans of the series were openly unsettled by Pacifica's reaction towards her parents abuse. Two reviewers said it best while watching the episode
-->'''Robert Walker:''' That whole bit with the bell said everything you needed to know about Pacifica's childhood and I'm like "Oh my god".
-->'''Doug Walker:''' it was like the creepiest thing!.
* UncannyValley: Fans of the series were openly unsettled by Pacifica's reaction towards her parents abuse. Two reviewers said it best while watching the episode
-->'''Robert Walker:''' That whole bit with the bell said everything you needed to know about Pacifica's childhood and I'm like "Oh my god".
-->'''Doug Walker:''' it was like the creepiest thing!.
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Were the agents at the party just to track activity on the machine, or were they investigating the Northwest legacy and how it's laden with fraud?
* CounterpartComparison:
** In this episode, Pacifica shares a lot in common with [[WesternAnimation/OverTheGardenWall Lorna]]. "The ringing of the bell commands you!"
* HoYay: To quote Agent Trigger when talking to his partner, [[LikeAnOldMarriedCouple "Why do we always fight at parties?"]]
* TheWoobie:
** Pacifica doesn't get a break during this episode.
** The Lumberjack as well. He wanted "lumber justice" denied to him, and Dipper for him was a SpannerInTheWorks that the Northwests hired.
* CounterpartComparison:
** In this episode, Pacifica shares a lot in common with [[WesternAnimation/OverTheGardenWall Lorna]]. "The ringing of the bell commands you!"
* HoYay: To quote Agent Trigger when talking to his partner, [[LikeAnOldMarriedCouple "Why do we always fight at parties?"]]
* TheWoobie:
** Pacifica doesn't get a break during this episode.
** The Lumberjack as well. He wanted "lumber justice" denied to him, and Dipper for him was a SpannerInTheWorks that the Northwests hired.