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* IconicCharacterForgottenTitle: A double subversion in that Mervyn Peake considered this a series about Titus, not Gormenghast. The novella "Boy In Darkness" and the third novel, ''Titus Alone'' take place outside of Gormenghast.
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* DracoInLeatherPants: Steerpike is adored by fans despite his many atrocities. Though even the biggest leather pants fetishist may have second thoughts when they read what Steerpike planned to do to Fuschsia...

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* DracoInLeatherPants: Steerpike is adored by fans despite his many atrocities. Though even the biggest leather pants fetishist may have second thoughts when they read what Steerpike planned to do to Fuschsia...Fuchsia...
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* [[FirstInstallmentWins First Two Installments Win]]: The first two novels, which take place almost wholly within the castle, are more remembered and talked about than ''Titus Alone''.

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* [[FirstInstallmentWins First Two Installments Win]]: FirstInstallmentWins: The first two novels, which take place almost wholly within the castle, are more remembered and talked about than ''Titus Alone''.
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* [[FirstInstallmentWins First Two Installments Win]]: The first two novels, which take place almost wholly within the castle, are more remembered and talked about than ''Titus Alone''.
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* MisaimedFandom: the turrets, vaults, and labyrinths of Gormenghast Castle, its bizarre rituals and crazed denizens, have been compelling and alluring to generations of readers. Peake, however, assumed that everyone would sympathize with Titus' disgust for the place and his need to escape it.
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* HeartwarmingMoments: Young Titus playing marbles with Dr. Prunesquallor and Professor Belgrove.

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* HeartwarmingMoments: SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments: Young Titus playing marbles with Dr. Prunesquallor and Professor Belgrove.
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* PeripheryDemographic: A lot of "serious" literature critics and English professors, the kinds that usually look down on fantasy fiction, love Mervyn Peake's more grounded and politically driven take on the genre. Yale literature professor Harold Bloom (perhaps the most "traditional" and therefore snobbiest literary scholar in America) put it in his updated Western Canon as one of the premiere books of the 20th century.
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* MagnificentBastard: [[AmbitionIsEvil Steerpike]] begins life as a [[FromNobodyToNightmare lowly boy in the kitchens]] who is able to scheme and connive his way into [[VillainousUnderdog becoming one of the most powerful figures in all Gormenghast]]. Arranging for the downfall of favored retainer Flay, Steerpike seduces Earl Sepulchrave Groan's daughter Fuchsia and burns Sepulchrave's library to drive the Earl mad. Murdering Master of Ritual Barquentine to claim his position, Steerpike also entraps Sepulchrave's sisters in his schemes until they depend entirely on him and he may leave them to starve. Even when exposed, Steerpike is able to use his intellect and resourcefulness to hide out within Gormenghast, waging a one-man war against the Groans and all their forces.

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* MagnificentBastard: [[AmbitionIsEvil Steerpike]] begins life as a [[FromNobodyToNightmare lowly boy in the kitchens]] who is able to scheme and connive his way into [[VillainousUnderdog becoming one of the most powerful figures in all of Gormenghast]]. Arranging for the downfall of the favored retainer Flay, Steerpike seduces Earl Sepulchrave Groan's daughter Fuchsia and burns Sepulchrave's library to drive the Earl mad. mad, [[EngineeredHeroics painting himself as the hero]] who saved everyone from the fire he engineered. Murdering Master of Ritual Barquentine to claim his position, Steerpike also manipulates and later entraps Sepulchrave's sisters in his schemes until they depend entirely on him and he may leave them to starve. Even when exposed, Steerpike is able to use his intellect and resourcefulness to hide out within Gormenghast, waging a one-man war against the Groans and all their forces. Only stopped by a freak flood, Steerpike [[DefiantToTheEnd defiantly dies]] snarling his hatred of hero Titus Groan as he passes.

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* DracoInLeatherPants: Steerpike is adored by fans despite his many atrocities. Though even the biggest leather pants fetishist may have second thoughts when they read what Steerpike planned to do to Fushsia...

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* DracoInLeatherPants: Steerpike is adored by fans despite his many atrocities. Though even the biggest leather pants fetishist may have second thoughts when they read what Steerpike planned to do to Fushsia...Fuschsia...


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* HilariousInHindsight: Some modern music fans might smirk at Steerpike's origins as "[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJRP3LRcUFg a jumped-up pantry boy who never knew his place]]".


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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: Fuchsia is one of the main characters of the story, and one of the few who's as discontented with life in Gormenghast as Titus is. And yet she's [[spoiler:[[DroppedABridgeOnHim unceremoniously killed off]]]] in a way that doesn't advance the story at all and just seems to indicate that Peake simply lost interest in her.
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* HeartwarmingMoments: Young Titus playing marbles with Dr. Prunesquallor and Professor Belgrove.

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* NightmareFuel: In the second book, Steerpike's murder of [[spoiler:Barquentine]] by setting him on fire, and the ensuing events in which [[spoiler:the burning Barquentine [[TakingYouWithMe grabs hold of him]], and Steerpike only survives by diving into the moat and ends up permanently scarred.]]

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In the second book, Steerpike's murder of [[spoiler:Barquentine]] by setting him on fire, and the ensuing events in which [[spoiler:the burning Barquentine [[TakingYouWithMe grabs hold of him]], and Steerpike only survives by diving into the moat and ends up permanently scarred.]]
** While Flay is roaming the castle at night, he's horrified to hear [[spoiler:the screams of Clarice and Cora as they perish from hunger and dehydration; he tries desperately to find where the screams are coming from so that he can help, but he's unable to locate the locked room and can only listen helplessly as the cries grow fainter and finally cease.
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