History YMMV / GodsNotDead2

** Grace's lawyer is an atheist and she is a devout Christian. Despite their different views, practically nothing comes from this dynamic as he essentially agrees with everything she wants.

* {{Glurge}}: The way this movie portrays non-Christians as bad people, and Christians as invariably good, sends the message that other beliefs are malicious, beyond even simply being wrong. Then again, this movie was always intended as a propaganda piece.

** The first movie has [[Series/HerculesTheLegendaryJourneys the son of Zeus]] as an atheist, now this one has a [[Series/SabrinaTheTeenageWitch a witch]] who has experienced the Salem Witch Trails as a devout Christian[[note]]The actress, Melissa Joan Hart, really is one.[[/note]] once again in the middle of a WitchHunt. '''EVERY''' critic points out the irony in this.

* InformedWrongness: Yes and no. On the one hand, a teacher briefly mentioning a religious figure while answering a student's question in class is something only the absolutely absurd would try to make a big deal over, and they'd likely get nowhere in doing so. On the other hand, atheists and religious/spiritual non-Christians have no genuine kindness or even simple rationality to their credit, according to the movie. And while there was nothing wrong with Grace's comment in class, the movie seems to say that any parent/guardian who objected to their kid being religiously preached at by a public school teacher would be wrong and also that only a non-Christian would object to preaching of Christianity to their kid. In reality, Christian individuals have diverse beliefs, meaning the parents and teacher's religious views might differ in certain areas, and even if they didn't, some Christians do strongly believe in separation of Church and State. If they wanted their kid to be exposed to religion at school/by a teacher, they'd either try to put them in a religious school or set up a meeting themselves between teacher and student outside of class.

* StrawmanHasAPoint: The lead "evil atheist" refers to Christianity as an oppressive belief, which many (but not all) of the non-Christian and historian viewers will agree with.
* SurprisinglyImprovedSequel: Many of the harshest critics will still describe this film as better than the first film, but mostly that is because of its more streamlined story and better lighting which is due to its bigger budget.

** If the film just focused on the actual reason Grace was on trial to begin with it could have been an interesting study on the limits between the separation of church and state. Instead it just completely turns around and becomes a case about proving Jesus' existence.

* StrawmanHasAPoint: The lead "evil atheist" refers to Christianity as an oppressive belief, which many of the non-Christian and historian viewers will agree with.
** [[DownplayedTrope Depending on the Christian person or organization, though.]]

** The Chinese kid who converts to Christianity subplot had some real potential behind it, and his dad had actual reasons to be mad: back home in China, at the very least being out and proudly religious (and that's '''any''' religion, not solely Christian) ain't good for your career prospects. If he (or his dad) worked in the Communist party, that's even worse. The kid could get himself relegated to the Chinese equivalent of [[Film/OfficeSpace Milton's basement office]], if not booted out of a cushy lifestyle entirely. It completely explains why his dad would be so mad at him, since from the dad's perspective his son is throwing his life away. But they instead treat is as if it's solely because he's an atheist and atheists hate Christians.

* StopBeingStereotypical: Surprisingly, the writers of the film are not Evangelical, but Catholic. However, this review by a Catholic site says the film [[http://www.catholicreview.org/article/play/sports/movie-review-god-s-not-dead-2 "suffers from an off-key tone, a pervasive sense of victimhood and sometimes painful sentimentality."]]

* [[DesignatedHero Designated Heroine]]: While Grace's comment in class wasn't inappropriate, she was a teacher employed by a public, secular school who met with a student outside of class and preached a religion the student's parents didn't agree with to their presumably underage child. While this also isn't illegal, it is a much more gray area and can definitely be argued to be disrespectfully inappropriate. Even if the parents had been shared her religion, they might have still objected to the unsupervised meeting out of school and/or a school employee preaching to their child.

* {{Glurge}}: The way this movie portrays non-Christians as bad people, and Christians as invariably good, sends the message that other beliefs are worthless. Then again, this movie was always intended as a propaganda piece.

** Who better to cast as the evil attorney that wants to prove that "God is dead" than [[Series/{{Reaper}} The Devil himself]], Creator/RayWise? Suddenly the trial becomes less "poorly executed AuthorTract" and more an "evil scheme to cheese off God".

* StopBeingStereotypical: Surprisingly, the writers of the film are not Evangelical, but Catholic. However, this review by a Catholic site says the film is [[http://www.catholicreview.org/article/play/sports/movie-review-god-s-not-dead-2 "suffers from an off-key tone, a pervasive sense of victimhood and sometimes painful sentimentality."]]

** Grace's lawyer is an atheist and she is a devout Christian. Despite their different belief systems, practically nothing comes from this dynamic as he essentially agrees with everything she wants.

** The Chinese kid who converts to Christianity subplot had some real potential behind it, and his dad had actual reason to be mad: back home in China, at the very least being out and proudly religious, and that's '''any''' religion not solely Christian, ain't good for your career prospects. If he (or his dad) worked in the Communist party, that's even worse. The kid could get himself relegated to the Chinese equivalent of [[Film/OfficeSpace Milton's basement office]], if not booted out of a cushy lifestyle entirely. It completely explains why his dad would be so mad at him, since from the dad's perspective his son is throwing his life away. But they instead treat is as if it's solely because he's an atheist and atheists hate Christians.

** They also seem to believe that if Jesus does exist, it would mean everything he represented is 100% true, but that is hardly the only possibility. Others would include that not all of his words were recorded accurately, or that he really existed, but only as a normal man. Even those who believe Jesus never existed, or at least there's not enough evidence to show this, might still feel that some sayings attributed to him have merit.

** This film seems to be dedicated to showing that in the world we live in the US government has complete control of what Christianity can and cannot do, showing them oppressed by arresting people for even speaking Jesus' name or arresting preachers for not complying with the government's demands of showing their sermons before each service.[[note]]Which in the US, government cannot do[[/note]] What they don't seem to realize is that the separation of church and state is a two way street - government stays out of religion and vice versa, and it makes it look like the United States is the exact same as some Middle Eastern government. Though in real life many people have claimed that the opposite is happening, with Christianity trying to dictate what the government can and cannot do.

** Some reviewers of the first film joked that the reason Radisson was killed was not because it was supposed to give himself the chance at redemption, but God was essentially enacting an equivalent exchange as at the same time the Newsboys were praying with Amy over her cancer. The theory was that to cure Amy's cancer God needed to kill someone else i.e. Radisson, but the reviewers usually brushed it off as after all cancer doesn't work that way and claimed it would be a really stupid idea. Come this film it is heavily suggested that Amy was cured because she became a Christian and suddenly that doesn't just sound like a joke theory anymore.

** The first movie has [[Series/HerculesTheLegendaryJourneys the son of Zeus]] as an atheist, now this one has a [[Series/SabrinaTheTeenageWitch a witch]] who has experienced the Salem Witch Trails as a devout Christian [[note]]The actress, Melissa Joan Hart, really is one.[[/note]] once again in the middle of a WitchHunt. '''EVERY''' critic points out the irony in this.
** Who better to cast as the evil attorney that wants to prove that "God is dead" than [[Series/{{Reaper}} The Devil himself]], Creator/RayWise. Suddenly the trial becomes less "poorly executed AuthorTract" and more "evil scheme to cheese off God".

** The first movie has [[Series/XenaWarriorPrincess the son of Zeus]] as an atheist, now this one has a [[Series/SabrinaTheTeenageWitch a witch]] who has experienced the Salem Witch Trails as a devout Christian [[note]]The actress, Melissa Joan Hart, really is one.[[/note]] once again in the middle of a WitchHunt. '''EVERY''' critic points out the irony in this.

** Some reviewers of the first film joked that the reason Radisson was killed was not because it was supposed to give himself the chance at redemption, but God was essentially enacting an equivalent exchange as at the same time the Newsboys were praying with Amy over her cancer. The theory was that to cure Amy's cancer God needed to kill someone else ie Radisson, but the reviewers usually brushed it off as after all cancer doesn't work that way and claimed it would be a really stupid idea. Come this film it is heavily suggested that Amy was cured because she became a Christian and suddenly that doesn't just sound like a joke theory anymore.

** The first movie has [[Series/XenaWarriorPrincess the son of Zeus]] as an atheist, now this one has a [[Series/SabrinaTheTeenageWitch a witch]] who has experienced the Salem Witch Trails as a devout Christian [[note]]The actress, Melissa Joan Hart, really is one.[[/note]] once again in the middle of a WitchHunt. '''EVERY''' critic points out the irony in the fact that the character she plays now would have killed the character she played before.

** The first movie has [[Series/XenaWarriorPrincess the son of Zeus]] as an atheist, now this one has a [[Series/SabrinaTheTeenageWitch a witch]] who has experienced the Salem Witch Trails as a devout Christian [[note]]The actress, Melissa Joan Hart, really is one.[[/note]] once again in the middle of a WitchHunt. '''EVERY''' critic points out the irony in this.

** The first movie has [[Series/XenaWarriorPrincess the son of Zeus]] as an atheist, now this one has a [[Series/SabrinaTheTeenageWitch a witch]] who has experienced the Salem Witch Trails as a devout Christian [[note]]the actress, Melissa Joan Hart, really is one[[/note]] once again in the middle of a WitchHunt. '''EVERY''' critic points out the irony in this.

* ParanoiaFuel: This film really amps up the persecution complex of Christians by having the trailers state how "THEY"[[note]]Atheists.[[/note]] are out to get them, how Christianity is at war complete with a scene of the same pastor being arrested, and setting atheists up to be like an evil organization bent on destroying Christianity once and for all. At one point it even justifies this whole thing by insinuating that if Christians don't fight for their religion now, tomorrow they could be dragged through the streets and killed for believing. It's pretty unlikely in a country that is over 80% Christian, and that's ignoring that a majority of Atheists have a "live and let live" attitude or even defends one's right to freely worship their religion.

** The Chinese kid who converts to Christianity subplot had some real potential behind it, and his dad had actual reason to be mad: back home in China, at the very least being out and proudly religious ain't good for your career prospects. If he (or his dad) worked in the Communist party, that's even worse. The kid could get himself relegated to the Chinese equivalent of [[Film/OfficeSpace Milton's basement office]], if not booted out of a cushy lifestyle entirely. It completely explains why his dad would be so mad at him, since from the dad's perspective his son is throwing his life away. But they instead treat is as if it's solely because he's an atheist and atheists hate Christians.

* SurprisinglyImprovedSequel: Many of the harshest critics will still describe this film as better than the first film, but mostly that is because of its more streamlined story and better lighting.

* ParanoiaFuel: This film really amps up the persecution complex of Christians by having the trailers state how "THEY"[[note]]Atheists.[[/note]] are out to get them, how Christianity is at war complete with a scene of the same pastor being arrested, and setting atheists up to be like an evil organization bent on destroying Christianity once and for all. At one point it even justifies this whole thing by insinuating that if Christians don't fight for their religion now, tomorrow they could be dragged through the streets and killed for believing. It's pretty unlikely in a country that is over 80% Christian.

** The first movie has [[Series/XenaWarriorPrincess the son of Zeus]] as an atheist, now this one has a [[Series/SabrinaTheTeenageWitch a witch]] who has experienced the Salem Witch Trails as a devout Christian [[note]]the actress, Melissa Joan Hart, really is one[[/note]] once again in the middle of a WitchHunt.

** They also seem to believe that if Jesus does exist, it would mean everything he represented is 100% true. Those two things have nothing in common.

** One of Creator/ErnieHudson's most famous lines is from the ''Film/{{Ghostbusters 1984}}'': "''If there's a steady paycheck in it, I'll believe whatever you say''". Come this film and many reviewers thinking the only reason he is in this film is for a paycheck.

** They also seem to treat the fact that if Jesus does exist, that means everything he represented is 100% true. Those two things have nothing in common.

** One of Creator/ErnieHudson's most famous lines is from the ''Film/{{Ghostbusters 1984}}'': "''If there is a steady paycheck in it, I'll believe whatever you say''". Come this film and many reviewers thinking the only reason he is in this film is for a paycheck.

** One of Ernie Hudson's most famous lines is from the Film/{{Ghostbusters}} "''If there is a steady paycheck in it, I'll believe whatever you say''". Come this film and many reviewers thinking the only reason he is in this film is for a paycheck.

* MexicansLoveSpeedyGonzales: Some atheist viewers seem to like Ray Wise's performance as a cartoonishly evil atheist simply for putting effort into his performance and adding some [[HamAndCheese much-needed hammery]] to the movie.

* PanderingToTheBase: Just like the first movie, this film seems to do nothing but pander to the Christians with a persecution complex along with the belief that the Christian Religion should be above the law.

** Grace's lawyer is an atheist and she is a devout Christian. Practically nothing comes from this dynamic as he essentially agrees with everything she wants.

** They also state that it is illegal in all schools to pray, when there are private schools students can attend based on one's belief system outside the government for this very purpose. It's also only illegal for public school teachers to lead prayer-students are free to pray as they wish, so long as it doesn't disrupt school activities.

** The ACLU is portrayed as a NebulousEvilOrganisation of atheists bent on destroying Christianity. The ACLU is an organization dedicated to protecting everyone's rights of free speech, press and assembly-they are only at odds with Christians because more often than not they are the ones trying to enforce their beliefs on others. In fact [[http://www.aclufightsforchristians.com the ACLU actually defends Christians frequently as well]]. In RealLife the ACLU would be defending Grace rather than how the film portrays them as out for her blood.
** During Lee Strobel's testimony, he claims that the way our calendar counts from the approximate birth time of Jesus as proof of hs existence. However, [[http://www.patheos.com/blogs/filmchat/2016/03/review-gods-not-dead-2-dir-harold-cronk-2016.html as a Patheos reviewer pointed out]], the ''anno domini'' (A.D.) way of counting years in the calendar wasn't invented until the 6th century by Dionysus Exiguus, a monk living in the Eastern Roman Empire, long after Christianity had been adopted as an official religion by the Roman and Byzantine empires. Historians believe Jesus was born between 4 BC (Herod's death) and 7 AD (Quirinius' census), based on the stories of his birth in the Gospels. This has been used as an argument against Jesus existing, since they can't agree on when he was born. Most historians do think he existed, but do not take any position about the divine nature Christians proclaim he had.
** This film seems to be dedicated to showing that in the world we live in the US government has complete control of what Christianity can and cannot do, showing them oppressed by arresting people for even speaking Jesus' name or arresting preachers for not complying with the government's demands of showing their sermons before each service.[[note]]Which in the US, government cannot do[[/note]] What they don't seem to realize is that the separation of church and state is a two way street-government stays out of religion and vice versa, and it makes it look like the United States is the exact same as some Middle Eastern government. Though in real life many people have claimed that the opposite is happening, with Christianity trying to dictate what the government can and cannot do.

* One of Ernie Hudson's most famous lines is from the Film/{{Ghostbusters}} "''If there is a steady paycheck in it, I'll believe whatever you say''". Come this film and many reviewers thinking the only reason he is in this film is for a paycheck.

** They also state that it is illegal in all schools to pray, when there are private schools students can attend based on one's belief system outside the government for this very purpose. It's also only illegal for public school teachers to lead prayer-students are free to pray as they wish.

* DontShootTheMessage: Like the first film, a lot of Christians feel this way about the film. Possibly even more so, as the premise of the first had some potential, but the premise of the sequel is unbelievably stupid.

* Don'tShootTheMessage: Like the first film, a lot of Christians feel this way about the film. Possibly even more so, as the premise of the first had some potential, but the premise of the sequel is unbelievably stupid.