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* MoralMyopia: Doylist example. Claremont famously had Kitty Pryde use the n-word to compare the oppression of mutants to that of black people, though in a context that accuses Stevie Hunter of mild hypocrisy when due to her reaction confronted with another minority's oppression. Considering that this is comparing a fictional minority to an actual minority, one traditionally threatened by mob violence that most mutants could shrug off easily, the line loses a lot of its impact.


* EnsembleDarkhorse: Oh, yeah. While Stryker's appearance in X-Men history was always intended to be a one-off, but he's since become one of the most iconic and menacing villains in X-Men history, making appearances in four of the movies, thanks to him personifying with [[TruthInTelevision disturbingly]] [[ValuesResonance realistic]] clarity the FantasticRacism that truly defines the X-Men as characters.


* FridgeLogic: At times it seems as if Stryker & Co. are the only ones on the scene who remember that Magneto is actually a ''criminal''. (His first HeelFaceTurn was still in progress at the time the graphic novel was released.) It's true that during the scene in Madison Square Garden Stryker represents a greater concern than does Mags, who is downed relatively quickly. Still, after Stryker is dealt with, it's a little surprising that no one even considers arresting a man whose last public act involved sinking a Soviet submarine that threatened his attempt to take over the world.
** That might be an explanation in and of itself; just ''try'' arresting the guy who did that. Magneto is one of the most powerful men in the world; you'd have to be crazy to try and take him on without some serious firepower or resources.


** Another example, on a lighter note: why did Wolverine score so well in the Danger Room scenario? He didn't really do anything useful.
*** Because he actually followed orders. Anyone who knows Wolverine can tell you how well that usually works out.


* HarsherInHindsight[=/=]HilariousInHindsight: Stryker bears a (cough) striking resemblance to Vice President Mike Pence, known for being very conservatively religious.


* ValuesResonance: You would not have to change much if you were to set this story in the present day.

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* ValuesResonance: You would not have to change much if you were to set this story in the present day. Televangelists, while not nearly as popular or ubiquitous as they were in TheEighties, are still influential in American culture, entertainments and politics as the LGBT Civil Rights movement can attest to.


* HarsherInHindsight[=/=]HilariousInHindsight: Stryker bears a (cough) striking resemblance to Vice President Mike Pence, also a religious fundamentalist.

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* HarsherInHindsight[=/=]HilariousInHindsight: Stryker bears a (cough) striking resemblance to Vice President Mike Pence, also a religious fundamentalist.known for being very conservatively religious.

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* HarsherInHindsight[=/=]HilariousInHindsight: Stryker bears a (cough) striking resemblance to Vice President Mike Pence, also a religious fundamentalist.


* CompleteMonster: [[SinisterMinister Reverend William Stryker]], debuting here, is a [[KnightTemplar religious zealot]] who believes that [[FantasticRacism mutantkind is an affront to God and undeserving of life]]. Years ago, Stryker [[OffingTheOffspring stabbed his newborn]] for being a mutant, [[NeckSnap broke his wife's neck]] for giving birth to a "monster", then became convinced that God had chosen him to wipe out all mutants. To this end, Stryker founded the fanatical Purifiers, and uses them to kill any and every mutant they come across, in just one instance [[WouldHurtAChild gunning down two young children]]. After kidnapping Charles Xavier and subjecting him and his friends to brutal MindRape, Stryker plans to use Xavier's psychic powers to exterminate every mutant in the world, and later coldly murders his [[TheDragon Dragon]] when she shows signs of being a latent mutant. William Stryker is the perfect representative of the bigotry and racism the X-Men have worked so hard to overcome over the years, made all the worse by his constant claims that he's just doing "the Lord's work".

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* CompleteMonster: [[SinisterMinister Reverend William Stryker]], debuting here, is a [[KnightTemplar religious zealot]] who believes that [[FantasticRacism mutantkind is an affront to God and undeserving of life]]. Years ago, Stryker [[OffingTheOffspring hatefully persecutes mutantkind]], having stabbed his newborn]] own infant son for being born a mutant, [[NeckSnap broke mutant and killing his wife's neck]] wife for giving birth to a "monster", then became convinced that God had chosen him to wipe out all mutants. To this end, birthing the boy. Founding the "Purifiers", Stryker founded the fanatical Purifiers, and uses has them to kill any and every mutant mutants they come across, in just one instance [[WouldHurtAChild gunning down two young children]]. After kidnapping across. Kidnapping Charles Xavier and subjecting him and his friends to brutal MindRape, MindRape him, Stryker plans to use Xavier's the psychic powers to exterminate every mutant to [[FinalSolution wipe out every other mutant on Earth]] in the world, and later coldly murders name of his [[TheDragon Dragon]] when she shows signs of being a latent mutant. William fanatical quest. Temporarily stopping his genocidal crusade, Stryker is resumes upon finding the perfect representative of mutant-killing machine, Nimrod, founding a new Purifier group and revealing it to the bigotry world through bombing a school bus full of de-powered mutants, [[WouldHurtAChild killing dozens of innocent children]]. After manipulating and racism then killing a young mutant, Stryker launches an all-out assault on the X-Men have worked so hard to overcome over X-Mansion in the years, made hopes of killing all the worse by children living there. Even after his constant claims that he's just doing "the Lord's work".own death, Stryker's brainwashing of his own son breaks the boy into becoming a fanatical, bigoted monster like his father.


* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: Of all the times for Claremont to forget he wrote Nightcrawler as a practicing Catholic... Kurt would have made a perfect counterpoint to Stryker's hysteria. With Stryker's [[AsTheGoodBookSays twisting of Scripture]] to justify his genocidal intentions, Chris couldn't have found one point to have Kurt quote from Wisdom 11:23-26? [[note]]"But you are merciful to all, for you can do all things,and you overlook people’s sins, so that they may repent. For you love all things that exist,and detest none of the things that you have made, for you would not have made anything if you had hated it. How would anything have endured if you had not willed it? Or how would anything not called forth by you have been preserved? You spare all things, for they are yours, O Lord, you who love the living." [[/note]]
** Nightcrawler's character developed gradually. The first issue that revealed him to be a ''practicing'' Christian was ''Uncanny X-Men'' #165, which was released almost a year after this graphic novel. This troper can't even remember how long after that he was described as specifically Catholic.

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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: Of all the times for Claremont to forget he wrote Nightcrawler as a practicing Catholic... Kurt would have made a perfect counterpoint to Stryker's hysteria. With Stryker's [[AsTheGoodBookSays twisting of Scripture]] to justify his genocidal intentions, Chris couldn't have found one point to have Kurt quote from Wisdom 11:23-26? [[note]]"But you are merciful to all, for you can do all things,and things, and you overlook people’s sins, so that they may repent. For you love all things that exist,and exist, and detest none of the things that you have made, for you would not have made anything if you had hated it. How would anything have endured if you had not willed it? Or how would anything not called forth by you have been preserved? You spare all things, for they are yours, O Lord, you who love the living." [[/note]]
** Nightcrawler's character developed gradually. The first issue that revealed him to be a ''practicing'' Christian was ''Uncanny X-Men'' #165, which was released almost a year after this graphic novel. This troper can't even remember how long after that he was described as specifically Catholic.
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* SignatureScene: The panel where William Stryker points at Nightcrawler and rhetorically asks "Human? You dare call that--thing--human!?!" and Kitty chewing out Stryker right after that (although the former panel is more famous due to MemeticMutation).


* HarsherInHindsight: As many people have commented online, Stryker bears a disturbingly close resemblance to [[https://pics.me.me/why-does-mike-pence-always-look-like-hes-about-to-6683813.png Mike Pence]], current United States Vice President and another religious fanatic political figure who has been harshly criticized for his support of [[CureYourGays conversion therapy.]] Starts to [[HaveYouTriedNotBeingAMonster ring a bell]], doesn't it?

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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Oh, yeah. While Stryker's appearance in X-Men history was always intended to be a one-off, but he's since become one of the most iconic and menacing villains in X-Men history, making appearances in four of the movies, thanks to him personifying with [[TruthInTelevision disturbingly]] [[ValuesResonance realistic]] clarity the FantasticRacism that truly defines the X-Men as characters.


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* HarsherInHindsight: As many people have commented online, Stryker bears a disturbingly close resemblance to [[https://pics.me.me/why-does-mike-pence-always-look-like-hes-about-to-6683813.png Mike Pence]], current United States Vice President and another religious fanatic political figure who has been harshly criticized for his support of [[CureYourGays conversion therapy.]] Starts to [[HaveYouTriedNotBeingAMonster ring a bell]], doesn't it?


** Nightcrawler's character developed gradually. The first issue that revealed him to be a ''practicing'' Christian was ''Uncanny X-Men'' #165, which was released almost a year after this graphic novel. [[Troper/chilled0ut This troper]] can't even remember how long after that he was described as specifically Catholic.

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** Nightcrawler's character developed gradually. The first issue that revealed him to be a ''practicing'' Christian was ''Uncanny X-Men'' #165, which was released almost a year after this graphic novel. [[Troper/chilled0ut This troper]] troper can't even remember how long after that he was described as specifically Catholic.


** Nightcrawler's character developed gradually. The first issue that revealed him to be a ''practicing'' Christian was ''Uncanny X-Men'' #165, which was released almost a year after this graphic novel. [[chilled0ut This troper]] can't even remember how long after that he was described as specifically Catholic.

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** Nightcrawler's character developed gradually. The first issue that revealed him to be a ''practicing'' Christian was ''Uncanny X-Men'' #165, which was released almost a year after this graphic novel. [[chilled0ut [[Troper/chilled0ut This troper]] can't even remember how long after that he was described as specifically Catholic.

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