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** Assuming that ''Carl'', ''Bowser's Koopalings'' and ''Donkey Kong Island'' follow the Nintendo canon will definitely piss off the fandom. The three shows take place in the [=FreezeFlame22=] Universe ([[NotMakingThisUpDisclaimer yes, that is the official name]]) and have little to no relation to what is established in the ''Franchise/SuperMarioBros'' series.
** No, Freeze's old series, ''The Koopa Kids'', is not canon to any of the series. ''Bowser's Koopalings'' was especifically created to replace ''The Koopa Kids'' and {{Retcon}} it out of existance. Even Freeze and his team [[CreatorBacklash regard that series as an embarrassment that is better off forgotten]]. Additionally, the name itself is yet another FandomEnragingMisconception among the ''Super Mario Bros.'' fanbase.

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** Assuming that ''Carl'', ''Bowser's Koopalings'' and ''Donkey Kong Island'' any of the series follow the Nintendo canon will definitely piss off the fandom. The three shows take place in the [=FreezeFlame22=] Universe ([[NotMakingThisUpDisclaimer yes, that is the official name]]) and have little to no relation to what is established in the ''Franchise/SuperMarioBros'' series.
** No, Freeze's old series, ''The Koopa Kids'', [[CanonDiscontinuity is not canon to any of the series.series]]. ''Bowser's Koopalings'' was especifically created to replace ''The Koopa Kids'' and {{Retcon}} it out of existance. Even Freeze and his team [[CreatorBacklash regard that series as an embarrassment that is better off forgotten]]. Additionally, the name itself is yet another FandomEnragingMisconception among the ''Super Mario Bros.'' fanbase.



* WhatDoYouMeanItsNotForKids: Yes, [=FreezeFlame22=] makes sitcoms based off the ''Franchise/SuperMarioBros'' series with colorful sprites and backgrounds, but they are definitely not aimed at children. The four shows have mild swearing (with the stronger profanities being censored), deal with mature topics such as verbal, psychological and emotional abuse, blackmail and bullying, and feature characters such as Bowser Jr. (a [[ManipulativeBastard manipulative]], [[TheSociopath sociopathic]] 9 year-old child). ''Wars of Frozen Flames'', being based off Wars of the Roses, features on-screen deaths among other acts of violence. Freeze's [=YouTube=] channel description even has a disclaimer about how his content is '''not''' meant for children.

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* WhatDoYouMeanItsNotForKids: Yes, [=FreezeFlame22=] makes sitcoms based off the ''Franchise/SuperMarioBros'' series with colorful sprites and backgrounds, but they are definitely not aimed at children. The four shows have mild swearing (with the stronger profanities being censored), deal with mature topics such as verbal, psychological and emotional abuse, blackmail and bullying, and feature characters such as Bowser Jr. (a [[ManipulativeBastard manipulative]], [[TheSociopath sociopathic]] 9 year-old child). ''Wars of Frozen Flames'', Flames'' in particular, being based off Wars of the Roses, features on-screen deaths among other acts of violence. Freeze's [=YouTube=] channel description even has a disclaimer about how his content is '''not''' meant for children.
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* EpilepticTrees: Due to their similar hairstyles and prominent sharp fang, many fans had speculated that Lucina Bishop was Ludwig biological mother. While WordOfGod has stated that that ''[[WhatCouldHaveBeen was]]'' the original plan, the two of them are completely unrelated. The fact that Ms. Bishop [[PutOnABus was]] [[LongBusTrip permanently]] [[PutOnABus retired]] from ''Carl'' only seemed to plunge this down even further. Eventually, Ludwig's real biological mother was revealed to be [[spoiler: Sophia Eisenhower, the wife of King Johann XVIII of the Bohenkraut Kingdom]]. Additionally, Ms. Bishop returned for the remastered versions for the first three seasons of Carl, but her designed was heavily altered to remove any lingering connection to Ludwig.

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* EpilepticTrees: Due to their similar hairstyles and prominent sharp fang, many fans had speculated that Lucina Bishop was Ludwig biological mother. While WordOfGod has stated that that ''[[WhatCouldHaveBeen was]]'' the original plan, the two of them are completely unrelated. The fact that Ms. Bishop [[PutOnABus was]] [[LongBusTrip permanently]] [[PutOnABus was retired]] from ''Carl'' starting with the fourth season only seemed to plunge this down even further. Eventually, Ludwig's real biological mother was revealed to be [[spoiler: Sophia Eisenhower, the wife of King Johann XVIII of the Bohenkraut Kingdom]]. Additionally, Ms. Bishop returned for the remastered versions for the first three seasons of Carl, but her designed was heavily altered to remove any lingering connection to Ludwig.
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* EpilepticTrees: Due to their similar hairstyles and prominent sharp fang, many fans had speculated that Lucina Bishop was Ludwig biological mother. While WordOfGod has stated that that ''[[WhatCouldHaveBeen was]]'' the original plan, the two of them are completely unrelated. The fact that Ms. Bishop [[PutOnABus was]] [[LongBusTrip permanently]] [[PutOnABus retired]] from ''Carl'' only seemed to plunge this down even further. Eventually, Ludwig's real biological mother was revealed to be [[spoiler: Sophia Eisenhower, the wife of King Johann XVIII of the Bohenkraut Kingdom]].

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* EpilepticTrees: Due to their similar hairstyles and prominent sharp fang, many fans had speculated that Lucina Bishop was Ludwig biological mother. While WordOfGod has stated that that ''[[WhatCouldHaveBeen was]]'' the original plan, the two of them are completely unrelated. The fact that Ms. Bishop [[PutOnABus was]] [[LongBusTrip permanently]] [[PutOnABus retired]] from ''Carl'' only seemed to plunge this down even further. Eventually, Ludwig's real biological mother was revealed to be [[spoiler: Sophia Eisenhower, the wife of King Johann XVIII of the Bohenkraut Kingdom]]. Additionally, Ms. Bishop returned for the remastered versions for the first three seasons of Carl, but her designed was heavily altered to remove any lingering connection to Ludwig.
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* EpilepticTrees: Due to their similar hairstyles and prominent sharp fang, many fans had speculated that Lucina Bishop was Ludwig biological mother. While WordOfGod has stated that that ''[[WhatCouldHaveBeen was]]'' the original plan, the two of them are completely unrelated. The fact that Ms. Bishop [[PutOnABus was]] [[LongBusTrip permanently]] [[PutOnABus retired]] from ''Carl'' only seemed to plunge this down even further. Eventually, Ludwig's real biological mother was revealed to be [[spoiler: Sophia Eisenhower, the wife of King Johann XVIII of the Bohenkraut Kingdom]].

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* EpilepticTrees: Due to their similar hairstyles and prominent sharp fang, many fans had speculated that Lucina Bishop was Ludwig biological mother. While WordOfGod has stated that that ''[[WhatCouldHaveBeen was]]'' the original plan, the two of them are completely unrelated. The fact that Ms. Bishop [[PutOnABus was]] [[LongBusTrip permanently]] [[PutOnABus retired]] from ''Carl'' only seemed to plunge this down even further. Eventually, Ludwig's real biological mother was revealed to be [[spoiler: Sophia Eisenhower, the wife of King Johann XVIII of the Bohenkraut Kingdom]]. Additionally, Ms. Bishop returned for the remastered versions for the first three seasons of Carl, but her designed was heavily altered to remove any lingering connection to Ludwig.
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** "NO ONE calls Grace annoying!"[[labelnote:Explanation]]In "Boo's Big Date", Talia says this after Kylie reveals that Emily had called Grace annoying. This lead to various edits and jokes about Talia murdering anyone who dares to call Grace annoying, with Emily and Calvin being the most common victims.[[/labelnote]]

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** "NO ONE calls Grace annoying!"[[labelnote:Explanation]]In "Boo's Big Date", Talia says this after Kylie reveals that Emily had called Grace annoying. This lead to various edits and jokes about Talia [[MemeticPsychopath murdering anyone who dares to call Grace annoying, annoying]], with Emily and Calvin being the most common victims.[[/labelnote]]
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* CondemnedByHistory: While ''[=FreezeFlame22=]'''s earliest videos were rather during the time they were released, nowadays, most fans look back at the older videos negatively, mainly due to the franchise GrowingTheBeard and the EarlyInstallmentWeirdness found in early videos causing them to heavily contrast with newer episodes, the overwhelming SadistShow humor, and a few [[SpecialEffectFailure editing flops]]. The lighting rod of the backlash tends to be ''The Koopa Kids'', as most fans tend to see the quirks of the early videos as a result of its lingering influence. Even [[CreatorBacklash [=FreezeFlame22=] himself regards his oldest works with embarrassment and regret]], which culminated into the first three seasons of ''Carl'' getting a remaster.

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* CondemnedByHistory: While ''[=FreezeFlame22=]'''s earliest videos were rather successful during the time they were released, nowadays, most fans look back at the older videos negatively, mainly due to the franchise GrowingTheBeard and the EarlyInstallmentWeirdness found in early videos causing them to heavily contrast with newer episodes, the overwhelming SadistShow humor, and a few [[SpecialEffectFailure editing flops]]. The lighting rod of the backlash tends to be ''The Koopa Kids'', as most fans tend to see the quirks of the early videos as a result of its lingering influence. Even [[CreatorBacklash [=FreezeFlame22=] himself regards his oldest works with embarrassment and regret]], which culminated into the first three seasons of ''Carl'' getting a remaster.
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* CondemnedByHistory: While ''[=FreezeFlame22=]'''s earliest videos were rather succesful back then, nowadays, most fans look back at the older videos negatively, mainly due to GrowingTheBeard and EarlyInstallmentWeirdness causing them to heavily constrast newer episodes, the overwhelming SadistShow humor, and a few [[SpecialEffectFailure editing flops]]. The lighting rod of the backlash tends to be ''The Koopa Kids'', as most fans tend to see the quirks as a result of its influence. Even [[OldShame [=FreezeFlame22=] himself regards his oldest works with embarrasment and regret]], which culiminated into the first three seasons of ''Carl'' getting a remaster.

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* CondemnedByHistory: While ''[=FreezeFlame22=]'''s earliest videos were rather succesful back then, during the time they were released, nowadays, most fans look back at the older videos negatively, mainly due to the franchise GrowingTheBeard and the EarlyInstallmentWeirdness found in early videos causing them to heavily constrast contrast with newer episodes, the overwhelming SadistShow humor, and a few [[SpecialEffectFailure editing flops]]. The lighting rod of the backlash tends to be ''The Koopa Kids'', as most fans tend to see the quirks of the early videos as a result of its lingering influence. Even [[OldShame [[CreatorBacklash [=FreezeFlame22=] himself regards his oldest works with embarrasment embarrassment and regret]], which culiminated culminated into the first three seasons of ''Carl'' getting a remaster.
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* CondemnedByHistory: In the earliest years of ''[=FreezeFlame22=]'', his videos were rather succesful. But nowadays, most fans look back at the older videos negatively, mainly due to GrowingTheBeard and EarlyInstallmentWeirdness causing them to heavily constrast newer episodes, the overwhelming SadistShow humor, and a few [[SpecialEffectFailure editing flops]]. The lighting rod of the backlash tends to be ''The Koopa Kids'', as most fans tend to see the quirks as a result of its influence. Even [[OldShame [=FreezeFlame22=] himself regards his oldest works with embarrasment and regret]], which culiminated into the first three seasons of ''Carl'' getting a remaster.

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* CondemnedByHistory: In the While ''[=FreezeFlame22=]'''s earliest years of ''[=FreezeFlame22=]'', his videos were rather succesful. But succesful back then, nowadays, most fans look back at the older videos negatively, mainly due to GrowingTheBeard and EarlyInstallmentWeirdness causing them to heavily constrast newer episodes, the overwhelming SadistShow humor, and a few [[SpecialEffectFailure editing flops]]. The lighting rod of the backlash tends to be ''The Koopa Kids'', as most fans tend to see the quirks as a result of its influence. Even [[OldShame [=FreezeFlame22=] himself regards his oldest works with embarrasment and regret]], which culiminated into the first three seasons of ''Carl'' getting a remaster.
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* FandomRivalry: Fans of Freeze's content had a minor one with fans of Dannywaving's content, primarily ''WebAnimation/ADayWithBowserJr''. When Freeze initially began making content, many of Dannywaving's fans flocked to Freeze's channel accusing him of ripping off Danny's content. The rivalry seems to have calmed down in recent times, both due to Freeze gaining more experience as a writer and content creator, and ''A Day With Bowser Jr.'' being QuietlyCancelled in favor of Danny making original works.

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* FandomRivalry: Fans of Freeze's content had a minor one with fans of Dannywaving's content, primarily ''WebAnimation/ADayWithBowserJr''. When Freeze initially began making content, many of Dannywaving's fans flocked to Freeze's channel accusing him of ripping off Danny's content. The rivalry seems to have calmed down in recent times, during the 2020s, both due to Freeze gaining more experience as a writer and content creator, and ''A Day With Bowser Jr.'' being QuietlyCancelled in favor of Danny making original works.
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* FandomRivalry: Fans of Freeze's content had a minor one with fans of Dannywaving's content, primarily ''WebAnimation/ADayWithBowserJr''. When Freeze initially began making content, many of Dannywaving's fans flocked to Freeze's channel accusing him of ripping off Danny's content. The rivalry seems to have calmed down in recent times, both due to Freeze gaining more experience as a writer and content creator, and ''A Day With Bowser Jr.'' being QuietlyCancelled in favor of Danny making original works.
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* JerksAreWorseThanVillains: Gooper is a horrendous bully who sees women as objects, Tyson is a power-thirsty psychopath who doesn't care who gets hurt as long as he is able to achieve his goal, Candy psychologically abused DK and almost made him lose his friends and job... [[LoveToHate but the way they are presented makes it difficult for the audience to entirely hate them]]. [[HateSink Hate Sinks]] without further characterization, such as Dominik Bones (who verbally abuses Dry Bones on a daily basis and is the reason why he developed an inferiority complex), and Emily (A FlatCharacter that what little personality she has consists of being a massive asshole) are much more hated by the fanbase.
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* CondemnedByHistory: In the earliest years of ''[=FreezeFlame22=]'', his videos were rather succesful. But nowadays, most fans look back at older videos negatively, mainly due to GrowingTheBeard and EarlyInstallmentWeirdness causing them to heavily constrast newer episodes, the overwhelming SadistShow humor, and a few [[SpecialEffectFailure editing flops]]. The lighting rod of the backlash tends to be ''The Koopa Kids'', as most fans tend to see the quirks as a result of its influence. Even [[OldShame [=FreezeFlame22=] himself regards his oldest works with embarrasment and regret]], which culiminated into the first three seasons of ''Carl'' getting a remaster.

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* CondemnedByHistory: In the earliest years of ''[=FreezeFlame22=]'', his videos were rather succesful. But nowadays, most fans look back at the older videos negatively, mainly due to GrowingTheBeard and EarlyInstallmentWeirdness causing them to heavily constrast newer episodes, the overwhelming SadistShow humor, and a few [[SpecialEffectFailure editing flops]]. The lighting rod of the backlash tends to be ''The Koopa Kids'', as most fans tend to see the quirks as a result of its influence. Even [[OldShame [=FreezeFlame22=] himself regards his oldest works with embarrasment and regret]], which culiminated into the first three seasons of ''Carl'' getting a remaster.
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* CondemnedByHistory: In the earliest years of ''[=FreezeFlame22=]'', his videos were rather succesful. But nowadays, most fans look back at older videos with a negative view, mainly due to GrowingTheBeard and EarlyInstallmentWeirdness causing them to heavily constrast newer episodes, the overwhelming SadistShow humor, and a few [[SpecialEffectFailure editing flops]]. The lighting rod of the backlash tends to be ''The Koopa Kids'', as most fans tend to see the quirks as a result of its influence. This has even resulted in [[OldShame [=FreezeFlame22=] himself regarding his oldest works with embarrasment]], which culiminated into the first three seasons of ''Carl'' getting a remaster.

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* CondemnedByHistory: In the earliest years of ''[=FreezeFlame22=]'', his videos were rather succesful. But nowadays, most fans look back at older videos with a negative view, negatively, mainly due to GrowingTheBeard and EarlyInstallmentWeirdness causing them to heavily constrast newer episodes, the overwhelming SadistShow humor, and a few [[SpecialEffectFailure editing flops]]. The lighting rod of the backlash tends to be ''The Koopa Kids'', as most fans tend to see the quirks as a result of its influence. This has even resulted in Even [[OldShame [=FreezeFlame22=] himself regarding regards his oldest works with embarrasment]], embarrasment and regret]], which culiminated into the first three seasons of ''Carl'' getting a remaster.
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* CondemnedByHistory: In the earliest years of ''[=FreezeFlame22=]'', his videos were rather succesful. But nowadays, most fans look back at older videos with a negative view, mainly due to GrowingTheBeard and EarlyInstallmentWeirdness making it heavily constrast newer episodes, the overwhelming SadistShow humor, and a few [[SpecialEffectFailure editing flops]]. The lighting rod of the backlash tends to be ''The Koopa Kids'', as most fans tend to see the quirks as a result of its influence. This has even resulted in [[OldShame [=FreezeFlame22=] himself regarding his oldest works with embarrasment]], which culiminated into the first three seasons of ''Carl'' getting a remaster.

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* CondemnedByHistory: In the earliest years of ''[=FreezeFlame22=]'', his videos were rather succesful. But nowadays, most fans look back at older videos with a negative view, mainly due to GrowingTheBeard and EarlyInstallmentWeirdness making it causing them to heavily constrast newer episodes, the overwhelming SadistShow humor, and a few [[SpecialEffectFailure editing flops]]. The lighting rod of the backlash tends to be ''The Koopa Kids'', as most fans tend to see the quirks as a result of its influence. This has even resulted in [[OldShame [=FreezeFlame22=] himself regarding his oldest works with embarrasment]], which culiminated into the first three seasons of ''Carl'' getting a remaster.
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* CondemnedByHistory: In the earliest years of ''[=FreezeFlame22=]'', his videos were rather succesful. But nowadays, most fans look back at older videos with a negative view, mainly due to GrowingABeard and EarlyInstallmentWeirdness making it heavily constrast newer episodes, the overwhelming SadistShow humor, and a few [[SpecialEffectFailure editing flops]]. The lighting rod of the backlash tends to be ''The Koopa Kids'', as most fans tend to see the quirks as a result of its influence. This has even resulted in [[OldShame [=FreezeFlame22=] himself regarding his oldest works with embarrasment]], which culiminated into the first three seasons of ''Carl'' getting a remaster.

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* CondemnedByHistory: In the earliest years of ''[=FreezeFlame22=]'', his videos were rather succesful. But nowadays, most fans look back at older videos with a negative view, mainly due to GrowingABeard GrowingTheBeard and EarlyInstallmentWeirdness making it heavily constrast newer episodes, the overwhelming SadistShow humor, and a few [[SpecialEffectFailure editing flops]]. The lighting rod of the backlash tends to be ''The Koopa Kids'', as most fans tend to see the quirks as a result of its influence. This has even resulted in [[OldShame [=FreezeFlame22=] himself regarding his oldest works with embarrasment]], which culiminated into the first three seasons of ''Carl'' getting a remaster.
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* CondemnedByHistory: In the earliest years of ''[=FreezeFlame22=]'', his videos were rather succesful. But nowadays, most fans look back at older videos with a negative view, mainly due to GrowingABeard and EarlyInstallmentWeirdness making it heavily constrast newer episodes, the overwhelming SadistShow humor, and a few [[StockEffectsFailure editing flops]]. The lighting rod of the backlash tends to be ''The Koopa Kids'', as most fans tend to see the quirks as a result of its influence. This has even resulted in [[OldShame [=FreezeFlame22=] himself regarding his oldest works with embarrasment]], which culiminated into the first three seasons of ''Carl'' getting a remaster.

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* CondemnedByHistory: In the earliest years of ''[=FreezeFlame22=]'', his videos were rather succesful. But nowadays, most fans look back at older videos with a negative view, mainly due to GrowingABeard and EarlyInstallmentWeirdness making it heavily constrast newer episodes, the overwhelming SadistShow humor, and a few [[StockEffectsFailure [[SpecialEffectFailure editing flops]]. The lighting rod of the backlash tends to be ''The Koopa Kids'', as most fans tend to see the quirks as a result of its influence. This has even resulted in [[OldShame [=FreezeFlame22=] himself regarding his oldest works with embarrasment]], which culiminated into the first three seasons of ''Carl'' getting a remaster.
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* CondemnedByHistory: In the earliest years of ''[=FreezeFlame22=]'', his videos were rather succesful. But nowadays, most fans look back at older videos with a negative view, mainly due to GrowingABeard and EarlyInstallmentWeirdness making it heavily constrast newer episodes, the overwhelming SadistShow humor, and a few [[StockEffectsFailure editing flops]]. The lighting rod of the backlash tends to be ''The Koopa Kids'', as most fans tend to see the quirks as a result of its influence. This has even resulted in [[OldShame [=FreezeFlame22=] himself regarding his oldest works with embarrasment]], which culiminated into the first three seasons of ''Carl'' getting a remaster.
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* GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff: Freeze is a UK-based content creator, but the bulk of his fanbase comes from outside of the UK, especially in the US and Canada.

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* NarmCharm: For a series that is based on Creator/{{Nintendo}} games and entirely animated in sprite work, the episodes have such sophisticated storytelling, that some longtime viewers even prefer these versions of the characters than their original counterparts.

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* NarmCharm: For a series that is based on Creator/{{Nintendo}} games and entirely animated in sprite work, the episodes All of [=FreezeFlame22=]'s shows have such intriguing lore, enthralling characters, and sophisticated storytelling, that some longtime viewers even prefer these versions of the characters than their original counterparts.storytelling. Concurrently, they are comedies animated with sprite work and located in a world based on Nintendo.

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* EpilepticTrees: Due to their similar hairstyles and prominent sharp fang, many fans had especulated that Lucina Bishop was Ludwig biological mother. While WordOfGod has stated that that ''[[WhatCouldHaveBeen was]]'' the original plan, the two of them are completely unrelated. The fact that Ms. Bishop [[PutOnABus was]] [[LongBusTrip permanently]] [[PutOnABus retired]] from ''Carl'' only seemed to plunge this down even further. Eventually, Ludwig's real biological mother was revealed to be [[spoiler: Sophia Eisenhower, the wife of King Johann XVIII of the Bohenkraut Kingdom]].

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* EpilepticTrees: Due to their similar hairstyles and prominent sharp fang, many fans had especulated speculated that Lucina Bishop was Ludwig biological mother. While WordOfGod has stated that that ''[[WhatCouldHaveBeen was]]'' the original plan, the two of them are completely unrelated. The fact that Ms. Bishop [[PutOnABus was]] [[LongBusTrip permanently]] [[PutOnABus retired]] from ''Carl'' only seemed to plunge this down even further. Eventually, Ludwig's real biological mother was revealed to be [[spoiler: Sophia Eisenhower, the wife of King Johann XVIII of the Bohenkraut Kingdom]].



* SugarWiki/HeReallyCanAct: The voice acting of all the shows is really good for the most part, but standouts include Carmen, Swoldow and Popplio Power, who perfectly capture the essence of the characters they play in any given situation.
** ''Wars of Frozen Flames'' in particular does a magnificent job in the voice acting department; the characters really feel like they both belong in the past and [=FreezeFlame22=] canon.
* HeartwarmingInHindsight: Carl states in the first episode of the series that Calvin's first meeting with Linda consisted of him hitting on her in a supermarket, which is anything but romantic. [[Recap/CarlS5E5LookingBack It was later revealed]] that that was ''not'' the first time Calvin and Linda had met, and their first meeting was much more special. However, because of their appearences being so different back in the day and not asking for each other's name, [[ForgottenFirstMeeting neither of them recognized the other]] when meeting again almost one decade later.
* HilariousInHindsight:
** In the episode "The Parallel Universe" of ''Bowser's Koopalings'', Ludwig asks Larry if he is finally going to come out of the closet. Fast-forward three seasons later, and ''Lemmy'' comes out of the closet. On a similar note, Lemmy saying that he wants to go to his bedroom [[ThatCameOutWrong to play with balls]] in the "Pilot" episode of the series, and Wendy stating that [[NoodleIncident he once got his tongue stuck in the mouth of a snowman]] in "Morton Koopa Sr." become even funnier after the reveal of him being a homosexual.
** In the very first episode of ''Carl'', Miss Bishop introduces herself and states that she will be the homeroom teacher for the rest of the students' school lifes. This becomes rather funny given that three seasons later, she was PutOnABus after [=FreezeFlame22=] both lost interest in the character and was unnable to find a voice actress that could do a posh british accent at the time, with Carl even [[LampshadeHanging lampshading]] how they will never see her again.
** In "The School Trip" after Steelix finally arrives with the bus in order to take everyone to Desert Hills, Staffordshire complains that she has been waiting for so long that she feels like a ''Franchise/{{Metroid}}'' fan [[SequelGap waiting for a new announcement]]. One year and three months later, ''VideoGame/MetroidDread'' was announced at E3 2021.
** In "Parents Evening", which released in May 2020, Logan comments that Music/KanyeWest should be president. Two months later, West's campaign as a third-party candidate for president of the United States in the 2020 election materialized. [[labelnote:note]]While West had previously stated that he had intention to run for president back in 2015, no one really believed he would actually follow through at the time.[[/labelnote]]. That said, this would later become HarsherInHindsight following various controversies Kanye West would find himself surrounded in not many years later.
* HollywoodHomely: Mary-Lynn and her sisters are said to be rather ugly by the other students in ''Carl'', but the only real negative (physical) trait they have are their big foreheads. According to WordOfGod, Mary-Lynn and her sisters are not meant to be ugly, but rather average-looking, and the comments about them being ugly are just "teens being teens", as otherwise no teenage boy would even consider making out with the Hatchin sisters.
* JerkassWoobie:
** Ever wondered why Dry Bones is so blunt when it comes to talking to his friends and is always lying about being rich when he obviously isn't? His home life is awful; it consists of him, his emotionally and verbally abusive father, and his misanthropist grandfather. Heck, Dry Bones is the only decent guy ''out of his whole family'', as they all have a deep hatred for each other.
** Sure, Ludwig is smug and self-centered, but you can't help but feel bad for the guy, having his would-be position as the king taken away by a [[TroublingUnchildlikeBehaviour sociopathic little kid]], who to add more insult to injury constantly rubs it in his face, and being, for a lack of a better word, SurroundedByIdiots at every moment.
** K. Rool is cynic and bitter because of the horrible treatment he received, and still gets, from his family. His father constantly favours his older brother Kennedy over him, and Kennedy would always find ways to make K. Rool look bad, and his cousin and sister often take him for granted.
** Queen Cynder is an imposing and cruel woman, but it's hard to not feel bad for her. She is stuck in a loveless marriage with King John VI, an incompetent {{Manchild}} [[GirlsHaveCooties who finds girls gross]] and who threw a tantrum when he first saw her because she wasn't blonde, who was abandoned by her lover Blayne the minute Lord Sigmund was imprisoned by Lord Richard, leaving her alone with their bastard son Godwin, who is believed by everyone to be John and Cynder's son. Plus, it's also implied that her father neglected her growing up, as he lied to her about John's personality. Her condescending attitute towards others, and her desire for power [[FreudianExcuse are basically the result of her having had to emotionally suffer so much throughout her life]].
** Calvin tends to harsh towards his children (Mainly Carl.) but given that he had lived under a strained marriage, having a deadbeat father (Who is still a ass in the present.) whose main motives are food and girls, it’s clear to see why he’s like this.
* JerksAreWorseThanVillains: Gooper is a horrendous bully who sees women as objects, Tyson is a power-thirsty psychopath who doesn't care who gets hurt as long as he is able to achieve his goal, Candy psychologically abused DK and almost made him lose his friends and job... [[LoveToHate but the way they are presented makes it difficult for the audience to entirely hate them]]. [[HateSink Hate Sinks]] without further characterization, such as Dominik Bones (who verbally abuses Dry Bones on a daily basis and is the reason why he developed an inferiority complex), and Emily (A FlatCharacter that what little personality she has consists of being a massive asshole) are much more hated by the fanbase.

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* SugarWiki/HeReallyCanAct: The voice acting of all the shows is really good for the most part, but standouts include Carmen, Swoldow and Popplio Power, who perfectly capture the essence of the characters they play in any given situation.
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situation. ''Wars of Frozen Flames'' in particular does a magnificent job in the voice acting department; the characters really feel like they both belong in the past and [=FreezeFlame22=] canon.
* HeartwarmingInHindsight: Carl states in the first episode of the series that Calvin's first meeting with Linda consisted of him hitting on her in a supermarket, which is anything but romantic. [[Recap/CarlS5E5LookingBack It was later revealed]] that that was ''not'' the first time Calvin and Linda had met, and their first meeting was much more special. However, because of their appearences being so different back in the day and not asking for each other's name, [[ForgottenFirstMeeting neither of them recognized the other]] when meeting again almost one decade later.
* HilariousInHindsight:
** In the episode "The Parallel Universe" of ''Bowser's Koopalings'', Ludwig asks Larry if he is finally going to come out of the closet. Fast-forward three seasons later, and ''Lemmy'' comes out of the closet. On a similar note, Lemmy saying that he wants to go to his bedroom [[ThatCameOutWrong to play with balls]] in the "Pilot" episode of the series, and Wendy stating that [[NoodleIncident he once got his tongue stuck in the mouth of a snowman]] in "Morton Koopa Sr." become even funnier after the reveal of him being a homosexual.
** In the very first episode of ''Carl'', Miss Bishop introduces herself and states that she will be the homeroom teacher for the rest of the students' school lifes. This becomes rather funny given that three seasons later, she was PutOnABus after [=FreezeFlame22=] both lost interest in the character and was unnable to find a voice actress that could do a posh british accent at the time, with Carl even [[LampshadeHanging lampshading]] how they will never see her again.
** In "The School Trip" after Steelix finally arrives with the bus in order to take everyone to Desert Hills, Staffordshire complains that she has been waiting for so long that she feels like a ''Franchise/{{Metroid}}'' fan [[SequelGap waiting for a new announcement]]. One year and three months later, ''VideoGame/MetroidDread'' was announced at E3 2021.
** In "Parents Evening", which released in May 2020, Logan comments that Music/KanyeWest should be president. Two months later, West's campaign as a third-party candidate for president of the United States in the 2020 election materialized. [[labelnote:note]]While West had previously stated that he had intention to run for president back in 2015, no one really believed he would actually follow through at the time.[[/labelnote]]. That said, this would later become HarsherInHindsight following various controversies Kanye West would find himself surrounded in not many years later.
* HollywoodHomely: Mary-Lynn and her sisters are said to be rather ugly by the other students in ''Carl'', but the only real negative (physical) trait they have are their big foreheads. According to WordOfGod, Mary-Lynn and her sisters are not meant to be ugly, but rather average-looking, and the comments about them being ugly are just "teens being teens", as otherwise no teenage boy would even consider making out with the Hatchin sisters.
* JerkassWoobie:
** Ever wondered why Dry Bones is so blunt when it comes to talking to his friends and is always lying about being rich when he obviously isn't? His home life is awful; it consists of him, his emotionally and verbally abusive father, and his misanthropist grandfather. Heck, Dry Bones is the only decent guy ''out of his whole family'', as they all have a deep hatred for each other.
** Sure, Ludwig is smug and self-centered, but you can't help but feel bad for the guy, having his would-be position as the king taken away by a [[TroublingUnchildlikeBehaviour sociopathic little kid]], who to add more insult to injury constantly rubs it in his face, and being, for a lack of a better word, SurroundedByIdiots at every moment.
** K. Rool is cynic and bitter because of the horrible treatment he received, and still gets, from his family. His father constantly favours his older brother Kennedy over him, and Kennedy would always find ways to make K. Rool look bad, and his cousin and sister often take him for granted.
** Queen Cynder is an imposing and cruel woman, but it's hard to not feel bad for her. She is stuck in a loveless marriage with King John VI, an incompetent {{Manchild}} [[GirlsHaveCooties who finds girls gross]] and who threw a tantrum when he first saw her because she wasn't blonde, who was abandoned by her lover Blayne the minute Lord Sigmund was imprisoned by Lord Richard, leaving her alone with their bastard son Godwin, who is believed by everyone to be John and Cynder's son. Plus, it's also implied that her father neglected her growing up, as he lied to her about John's personality. Her condescending attitute towards others, and her desire for power [[FreudianExcuse are basically the result of her having had to emotionally suffer so much throughout her life]].
** Calvin tends to harsh towards his children (Mainly Carl.) but given that he had lived under a strained marriage, having a deadbeat father (Who is still a ass in the present.) whose main motives are food and girls, it’s clear to see why he’s like this.
* JerksAreWorseThanVillains: Gooper is a horrendous bully who sees women as objects, Tyson is a power-thirsty psychopath who doesn't care who gets hurt as long as he is able to achieve his goal, Candy psychologically abused DK and almost made him lose his friends and job... [[LoveToHate but the way they are presented makes it difficult for the audience to entirely hate them]]. [[HateSink Hate Sinks]] without further characterization, such as Dominik Bones (who verbally abuses Dry Bones on a daily basis and is the reason why he developed an inferiority complex), and Emily (A FlatCharacter that what little personality she has consists of being a massive asshole) are much more hated by the fanbase.
canon.



* MoralEventHorizon
** Gooper has always being a bully that feels absolutely no sympathy for his victims, but him kidnapping Grace and forcing her to be his date for the school dance while shoving and locking Mary-Lynn inside a closet, plus sending Liam and Bob to tell Carl that he is with Grace in order to drive Carl into a depression made him completely irredeemable to most if not all fans of the series. If that wasn't enough, he later threatens to hit Grace after the latter had tried to embarrass him in front of others.
*** You thought that wasn't bad enough? Well, how about Gooper [[ManipulativeBastard taking advantage of Roxanne's emotional state]] after being stood up by Tucker one too many times in order to make her kiss him '''twice'''? The second time is even worse, as he basically threatens to tell everyone about it and destroy Roxanne's reputation if she doesn't break up with Tucker and starts dating him. Roxanne is then forced to go out with someone who only sees her as an object, and if Emily is anything to go by, some people are starting to see her as a [[ReallyGetsAround desperate slut]] for being "willing" to date Gooper of all people after ending her relationship with Tucker.
** What little personality Emily had consisted of her being a judgemental {{Jerkass}} who badmouths people when they're out of earshot, but then there's her insulting and physically assaulting Kylie, the only one who was actually willing to stand for her, when Kylie confesses to having kissed Tucker at the Christmas party, not because of the cheating itself, but because Kylie, a bisexual woman, kissed a man while having a girlfriend. Emily hurt Kylie both physically and emotionally over a mistake she made.
** Camilla has always been an [[{{Jerkass}} unpleasant]] SpoiledBrat who thinks everyone is beneath her, but no one would expect that she would go as far as to trick Wendy, who considered Camilla a good friend, into gaining a lot of weight so Travis would dump her out of disgust [[GreenEyedMonster in order to date him herself]].
*** If you don’t think that cemented Camilla as being anything but a [[HateSink piece of trash]], then she definitely sank to a new low when she started to pull nasty pranks on Wendy in an attempt to force her to break up with Travis, among which include [[MurderTheHypotenuse putting a venomous snake in the castle's bathroom]] and breaking into Wendy's room, stealing all of her possessions, and ''selling them online''. [[NiceGuy Travis]] is downright disgusted, to the point of outright calling her [[BeyondRedemption a horrible person]] and rendering her chances of dating him non-existent.
** King Johann XVIII, the king of the Bohnenkraut Kingdom is a tyrant who was responsible for the death of Ludwig's biological mother, and he also murdered his first four children while lying to Ludwig that they were stillborn. As if that weren't bad enough, he plans to use the Green Star to power an energy cannon that will kill countless innocents, including women and children, in the Bohnenkraut Kingdom during Chuckola Fest so that he can establish a new empire. And to test out said weapon, he fires it at Karhar City, killing all the inhabitants, including the children.
* MemeticBadass: Roberto. Is not rare for fans to label him as one of the most god-like characters in the franchise.



* MemeticPsychopath: Talia. If someone calls Grace annoying, she will murder them no questions asked.



* OneTrueThreesome: Following the reveal in "Bad Roxanne (2/2)" that Kylie had hidden feelings for Talia, many fans took a likeness of the idea of Dry Bones and Talia letting Kylie into their relationship.
* PlayAlongMeme: In ''Bowser's Koopalings'', with the exception of his three allies no one is capable of remembering Fryguy's name, so fans jokingly say that they don't know who Fryguy is either.
* SignatureScene
** '''''Carl'''''
*** TheBigDamnKiss between Carl and Grace at the end of "The School Dance (2/2)", which marks the beginning of their romantic relationship.
*** [[DreadfulMusician Mary-Lynn]] singing "[[Music/{{Adele}} Rolling in the Deep]]" in "The Talentless Show". Completely destroys your ears? Yes. Is it worth it? [[SoBadItsGood Absolutely]]. The scene is so well-remembered by fans that Mary-Lynn's voice actress, [=AverageToaster19=], [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UT8ZaBm8OQ made a cover of her singing the full song in the voice she uses for Mary-Lynn]].
*** The kiss between Blooper and Roxanne at the end of the "Bad Roxanne" duology, putting an end to season 5 [[WillTheyOrWontThey and years of romantic tension]], [[RelationshipUpgrade finally promoting the two of them to a couple]]. That and Roxanne using [[{{Jerkass}} Gooper's]] {{Blackmail}} of her against him and breaking up with him for good before that.
** '''''Wars of Frozen Flames'''''
*** The factions of the nobility pulling their swords on each other during the Loveday Feast.
*** The entire Battle of Whomp City, and within this event, [[spoiler:Lord Sigmund's execution]].
* TheScrappy: Emily is heavily disliked among the ''Carl'' fanbase due to [[FlatCharacter not having too much going on for her]] and for the way she criticized Grace, Talia, and Roxanne (''especially'' Roxanne, who was going through a harsh situation at the time) in front of Kylie. Even [=FreezeFlame22=] and various other voice actors have expressed distaste for Emily, but mainly for the former reason. The amount of people that hate Emily skyrocketed after the premiere of season 5's "The Valentine's Bowl", in which she assaults and insults Kylie after Kylie confesses to having made a mistake. On the bright side, [[PutOnABus Emily was shown getting into a bus and leaving Toad Town for good]] on that same episode,
* SpiritualAntithesis: ''Carl'' can be seen as one to ''WesternAnimation/{{Doug}}'', as both shows revolve around the everyday lives of the titular protagonists. However, while Doug Funnie is a painfully average 11-and-a-half-year-old who prefers solving his problems peacefully, Carl Mitchell won't hesitate to throw hands if something ticks him off enough.



* TheWoobie:
** '''''Carl'''''
*** Dry Bones' skin was burnt off in a fire, his house looks like it will crumble apart at any minute, and he is verbally abused by his father on a daily basis. His father has also made it very clear in the past that Dry Bones could go jump off a cliff for all he cares. Because his home-life is so horrible, Dry Bones always tells BlatantLies to others about how great his father and granfather are and how rich he is in order to cope with the fact that his home-life is completely awful.
*** Poor Blooper. [[BigBrotherBully His older brothers pick on him]], and his mother is a grumpy alcoholic who openly insults all of her kids. Not to mention that his father was eaten alive by a shark when he was younger. On top of that, [[ObliviousToLove Roxanne is completely oblivious to his crush on her]] and whenever he tries to ask her out, Roxanne either misses the point or already has another boy to hang out with. Then it turns out Roxanne ''does'' have feelings for him too, but can't start a relationship with him because Gooper is blackmailing her into dating him.
*** Talia is constantly teased by bullies for her metabolism and [[MyBelovedSmother her strict parents have pestered her all her life]], never giving her a break or allowing her to be herself, and even forced her to work at the local Goomburger with [[FatBastard Dedede]] of all people as her boss. All of this has caused Talia to grow up as a shy and insecure girl who [[HatesTheirParent deeply resents her parents]]. She seems to be doing better ever since she embraced the more rebelious side of her, but it really says something when she doesn't seem affected by her mother leaving the kingdom and her father being heartbroken by it in the slightest.
*** Roxanne can't catch a break. She's kind, smart, beautiful, popular... but is also a complete emotional wreck as a result of her failed romantic relationships. She used to date resident [[TheBully bully]] and [[StrawMisogynist misogynist]] Gooper well before he TookALevelInJerkass (or so she believes), and was completely devasted when she found out he was cheating on her. Her second boyfriend Tucker always took her for granted and prefered to spend time goofing off with his friends rather than with her. The last straw came when Tucker [[ForgottenBirthday stood her up on her birthday]] and Gooper took advantage of it to emotionally manipulate Roxanne into kissing him. Gooper then [[{{Blackmail}} blackmailed]] Roxanne into breaking up with Tucker and dating him or else he would tell everyone what happened and ruin her reputation. Then there's her confessing to Blooper that she feels the same things he feels for her, but couldn't start a relationship with him due to Gooper blackmailing her at the time.
*** [[TheFriendNobodyLikes Jim Flaig]]. He's always looked down by the rest of Gooper's gang and only embarrases himself whenever he tries to fit in. Perhaps how he got in was simply out of pity.
** '''''Bowser's Koopalings'''''
*** Poor Larry. He's always poked fun at by his siblings and whenever he tries to fit in, he's always called out for it as it usually gets the Koopalings in a great deal of trouble.
*** Even though Ludwig acts smug and prideful most of the times, he is actually very lonely on the inside. This is a result of his would-be position as the future king of the Koopa Kingdom being taken over by Bowser Jr. as he is Bowser's biological son, and Junior both rubbing it in his face and mistreating him and the other Koopalings [[ForTheEvulz for no reason other than to be an asshole]]. He is also constantly annoyed by his other siblings' antics, especially Larry's. Not to mentioned, he's always put into slapstick or some sort of injury, [[TheyKilledKennyAgain even dying from some on occasions.]]
*** Kamek never gets the recognition he deserves for doing his job at the castle, and he is always subjected to some kind of abuse from Bowser, The Koopalings, Bowser Jr., or the other residents of the castle. The same thing also happened with Bowser's father back in the day. No wonder he is such a grump.
** '''''Donkey Kong Island'''''
*** Diddy Kong has it awful. He's always the butt of all of the jokes, his friends pick on him for having a crush on Dixie, and he is subjected to abuse from [[{{Jerkass}} Krusha]] [[DisproportionateRetribution as a result of liking Dixie]] (never mind the fact that Dixie and Krusha only dated briefly), which used to be ''much'' more severe than it is now. Not to mention, his parents clearly favour DK over him. Of course, that's not to say that they ''don't'' love Diddy, but he's always in his brother's shadow. Fortunately, things change for the better for Diddy.
*** Chunky is scared of everything and he is often subjected to some sort of misfortune, although to a lesser extent than Diddy. The poor guy can't catch a break.
*** K. Rool is so cynic of the world around him because his father always favoured his brother Kennedy over him. No matter how hard he tried, no matter how many things he achieved, [[CainAndAbel his brother would always try to make his life miserable]] by doing better than him and gaining their father's approval. Not only that, but ever since he moved to Kongo Island, he has to deal with whatever shenanigans the Kongs have organized, as well as Krusha harrasing them and Klump... being Klump.
*** DK being [[SuperGullible so gullible]] and always trying to look for the positive side of things even when there isn't one lead to him becoming stuck in a toxic relationship with [[BitchInSheepsClothing Candy]], who psychologically abused him, took advantage of him at every opportunity, tried to leech off his hard work whenever she could, almost made him lose his job and friends, and even cheated on him with Krusha of all people. Even after Candy was exposed for who she really is, DK felt like her actions were all his fault for not being there for her. The worst part is that [[TruthInTelevision it is actually an accurate depiction of a toxic relationship]].
*** While things eventually got better for Diddy, they got ''worse'' for Dixie. Turns out she too had feelings for Diddy because he was one of the few boys to not treat her like a trophy, but she was afraid of ruining their friendship and kept quiet about it and rejected his advances. She came to regret her decision when Diddy started dating Kitty, as it hurts her emotionally every time she sees them together, but she does not want to selfishly reck their relationship.
** '''''Wars of Frozen Flames'''''
*** Lady Jane Phoenix's husband died in an accident as a result of riding his mustie drunk, leaving her alone with their baby James. Additionally, the egg James was in rendered her sterile when she laid it, so she'll never be able to bear more children. She is told to remarry if she wants to have a source of income, and the law of the time states that she has to give up her son to someone at the service of the crown once she does so. Before her brother-in-law Rodrick steps in and offers to raise James, her only options were with her uncle Sigmund or her cousin Blayne, both unpleasant and self-centered people (the latter even mocked her about her husband's death) and she's afraid of what they might do to him. Things do change for the better for her when she is married off to Lord Korrin Sylver, as he treats her wonderfully and tells her that they'll visit James very often, but the pain of being separated from her only son is still there. Keep in mind, Jane was only fourteen years old when she had James, and her second marriage happened at the age of fifteen.
*** Underneath all of Queen Cynder's cruelty lies a very lonley woman stuck in a loveless marriage to a {{Manchild}} of a king, who has no one but her bastard child to keep her company. It's even shown that she really tried to make the best out of her situation, but the years spent with John eventually drove her bitter and short-tempered.
*** Lady Anna Koopa, a carefree and refined yet kind girl, was really looking forward to her wedding and life as the wife of a duke, [[spoiler:only to be betrayed and kidnapped by said duke, and handed over to Queen Cynder as a hostage, with the Queen treating her as her personal slave. [[SympathyForTheHero Cynder even admits that she feels some pity for Anna]]]]. That's how you know her situation is ''really'' bad.

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* TheWoobie:
** '''''Carl'''''
*** Dry Bones' skin was burnt off in a fire, his house looks like it will crumble apart at any minute, and he is verbally abused by his father on a daily basis. His father has also made it very clear in the past that Dry Bones could go jump off a cliff for all he cares. Because his home-life is so horrible, Dry Bones always tells BlatantLies to others about how great his father and granfather are and how rich he is in order to cope with the fact that his home-life is completely awful.
*** Poor Blooper. [[BigBrotherBully His older brothers pick on him]], and his mother is a grumpy alcoholic who openly insults all of her kids. Not to mention that his father was eaten alive by a shark when he was younger. On top of that, [[ObliviousToLove Roxanne is completely oblivious to his crush on her]] and whenever he tries to ask her out, Roxanne either misses the point or already has another boy to hang out with. Then it turns out Roxanne ''does'' have feelings for him too, but can't start a relationship with him because Gooper is blackmailing her into dating him.
*** Talia is constantly teased by bullies for her metabolism and [[MyBelovedSmother her strict parents have pestered her all her life]], never giving her a break or allowing her to be herself, and even forced her to work at the local Goomburger with [[FatBastard Dedede]] of all people as her boss. All of this has caused Talia to grow up as a shy and insecure girl who [[HatesTheirParent deeply resents her parents]]. She seems to be doing better ever since she embraced the more rebelious side of her, but it really says something when she doesn't seem affected by her mother leaving the kingdom and her father being heartbroken by it in the slightest.
*** Roxanne can't catch a break. She's kind, smart, beautiful, popular... but is also a complete emotional wreck as a result of her failed romantic relationships. She used to date resident [[TheBully bully]] and [[StrawMisogynist misogynist]] Gooper well before he TookALevelInJerkass (or so she believes), and was completely devasted when she found out he was cheating on her. Her second boyfriend Tucker always took her for granted and prefered to spend time goofing off with his friends rather than with her. The last straw came when Tucker [[ForgottenBirthday stood her up on her birthday]] and Gooper took advantage of it to emotionally manipulate Roxanne into kissing him. Gooper then [[{{Blackmail}} blackmailed]] Roxanne into breaking up with Tucker and dating him or else he would tell everyone what happened and ruin her reputation. Then there's her confessing to Blooper that she feels the same things he feels for her, but couldn't start a relationship with him due to Gooper blackmailing her at the time.
*** [[TheFriendNobodyLikes Jim Flaig]]. He's always looked down by the rest of Gooper's gang and only embarrases himself whenever he tries to fit in. Perhaps how he got in was simply out of pity.
** '''''Bowser's Koopalings'''''
*** Poor Larry. He's always poked fun at by his siblings and whenever he tries to fit in, he's always called out for it as it usually gets the Koopalings in a great deal of trouble.
*** Even though Ludwig acts smug and prideful most of the times, he is actually very lonely on the inside. This is a result of his would-be position as the future king of the Koopa Kingdom being taken over by Bowser Jr. as he is Bowser's biological son, and Junior both rubbing it in his face and mistreating him and the other Koopalings [[ForTheEvulz for no reason other than to be an asshole]]. He is also constantly annoyed by his other siblings' antics, especially Larry's. Not to mentioned, he's always put into slapstick or some sort of injury, [[TheyKilledKennyAgain even dying from some on occasions.]]
*** Kamek never gets the recognition he deserves for doing his job at the castle, and he is always subjected to some kind of abuse from Bowser, The Koopalings, Bowser Jr., or the other residents of the castle. The same thing also happened with Bowser's father back in the day. No wonder he is such a grump.
** '''''Donkey Kong Island'''''
*** Diddy Kong has it awful. He's always the butt of all of the jokes, his friends pick on him for having a crush on Dixie, and he is subjected to abuse from [[{{Jerkass}} Krusha]] [[DisproportionateRetribution as a result of liking Dixie]] (never mind the fact that Dixie and Krusha only dated briefly), which used to be ''much'' more severe than it is now. Not to mention, his parents clearly favour DK over him. Of course, that's not to say that they ''don't'' love Diddy, but he's always in his brother's shadow. Fortunately, things change for the better for Diddy.
*** Chunky is scared of everything and he is often subjected to some sort of misfortune, although to a lesser extent than Diddy. The poor guy can't catch a break.
*** K. Rool is so cynic of the world around him because his father always favoured his brother Kennedy over him. No matter how hard he tried, no matter how many things he achieved, [[CainAndAbel his brother would always try to make his life miserable]] by doing better than him and gaining their father's approval. Not only that, but ever since he moved to Kongo Island, he has to deal with whatever shenanigans the Kongs have organized, as well as Krusha harrasing them and Klump... being Klump.
*** DK being [[SuperGullible so gullible]] and always trying to look for the positive side of things even when there isn't one lead to him becoming stuck in a toxic relationship with [[BitchInSheepsClothing Candy]], who psychologically abused him, took advantage of him at every opportunity, tried to leech off his hard work whenever she could, almost made him lose his job and friends, and even cheated on him with Krusha of all people. Even after Candy was exposed for who she really is, DK felt like her actions were all his fault for not being there for her. The worst part is that [[TruthInTelevision it is actually an accurate depiction of a toxic relationship]].
*** While things eventually got better for Diddy, they got ''worse'' for Dixie. Turns out she too had feelings for Diddy because he was one of the few boys to not treat her like a trophy, but she was afraid of ruining their friendship and kept quiet about it and rejected his advances. She came to regret her decision when Diddy started dating Kitty, as it hurts her emotionally every time she sees them together, but she does not want to selfishly reck their relationship.
** '''''Wars of Frozen Flames'''''
*** Lady Jane Phoenix's husband died in an accident as a result of riding his mustie drunk, leaving her alone with their baby James. Additionally, the egg James was in rendered her sterile when she laid it, so she'll never be able to bear more children. She is told to remarry if she wants to have a source of income, and the law of the time states that she has to give up her son to someone at the service of the crown once she does so. Before her brother-in-law Rodrick steps in and offers to raise James, her only options were with her uncle Sigmund or her cousin Blayne, both unpleasant and self-centered people (the latter even mocked her about her husband's death) and she's afraid of what they might do to him. Things do change for the better for her when she is married off to Lord Korrin Sylver, as he treats her wonderfully and tells her that they'll visit James very often, but the pain of being separated from her only son is still there. Keep in mind, Jane was only fourteen years old when she had James, and her second marriage happened at the age of fifteen.
*** Underneath all of Queen Cynder's cruelty lies a very lonley woman stuck in a loveless marriage to a {{Manchild}} of a king, who has no one but her bastard child to keep her company. It's even shown that she really tried to make the best out of her situation, but the years spent with John eventually drove her bitter and short-tempered.
*** Lady Anna Koopa, a carefree and refined yet kind girl, was really looking forward to her wedding and life as the wife of a duke, [[spoiler:only to be betrayed and kidnapped by said duke, and handed over to Queen Cynder as a hostage, with the Queen treating her as her personal slave. [[SympathyForTheHero Cynder even admits that she feels some pity for Anna]]]]. That's how you know her situation is ''really'' bad.
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moving series-specific examples to their own pages. also, Old Shame is IUEO.


* AccidentalInnuendo:
** This line from Iggy at the beginning of "Iggy's Pet":
---> '''Iggy''': And now this potion should make me bigger! Now I'll get so many more chicks!
* {{Adorkable}}:
** Grace is the embodiment of this. She is a nice, caring and ditzy ball of sunshine.
** There is just something about Larry being so naive when compared to his siblings and thinking that "meanie" is an actual insult that comes off as charming.
** Chunky is easily scared by everything. Keep in mind, he is TheBigGuy.
** Travis is clumsy, but also charming. No wonder Wendy fell for him.
** Korrin is not only a caring husband to Jane, but his clumsiness and him calling her "my deliciousness" as a compliment makes him even more endearing.
** Lord Tusk looks intimidating and is capable of slaughtering thousands of soldiers in the battlefield with ease, but he is also a sensitive guy who likes when people read him bedtime stories.
* BaseBreakingCharacter:
** '''''Carl'''''
*** Calvin. You either think he is an interesting character and a great example of GoodIsNotNice, or you find his harsh treatment of his family, especially Carl, to be a bit excessive.
** '''''Bowser's Koopalings'''''
*** Larry Koopa. On one hand, he is very sympathetic and kind-hearted, which has earned the hearts of many fans. On the other side, however, other fans find him annoying.
*** Ludwig has a varied fanbase. You could either love his character for being snarky and understand where his demeanor comes from considering all that has happened to him or find him a total jerk who is too mean to Larry.
*** Wendy Koopa has a varied fanabase. You may either find her a interesting character who is likable for being a good friend/sibling for Larry. On the other hand, her social media obsession can be seen as annoying.
** '''''Donkey Kong Island'''''
*** DK and Diddy's parents are either funny because of their [[AmazinglyEmbarrassingParents tendency to embarrass their kids]] and how open they are about the more... private aspects of their relationship, or are irritating because of those very same reasons. Them clearly favouring DK over [[BornUnlucky Diddy]] (although it seems to be unintentional on their part) does not help much.
* CrossesTheLineTwice:
** '''''Carl'''''
*** A teenager dying in a parachute jumping accident in "Toad Town Puckers"? Tragic. The reason being that he was accidentally given a bag with sodas instead of an actual parachute? Hilarious.
** '''''Bowser's Koopalings'''''
*** This line from Morton in "Time Travel Trouble":
--->'''Morton''': So what does everyone think of this Adolf guy? Pretty horrible, right?
*** Bowser Jr. literally ''nuking'' an entire kingdom in "Son of Morton" as part of a CutawayGag.
** '''''Wars of Frozen Flames'''''
*** The prologue of the first episode is full of these. Standouts include King Edrick Koopa IV dying thirty days into his reign as a result of getting infected with the Black Plague, and Prince Joseph being stated to have disappeared [[SuspiciouslySpecificDenial under non-suspicious circumstances]] [[BlatantLies while he is shown inside his cell lying in a pool of blood]].

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* AccidentalInnuendo:
** This line from Iggy at the beginning of "Iggy's Pet":
---> '''Iggy''': And now this potion should make me bigger! Now I'll get so many more chicks!
* {{Adorkable}}:
** Grace is the embodiment of this. She is a nice, caring and ditzy ball of sunshine.
** There is just something about Larry being so naive when compared to his siblings and thinking that "meanie" is an actual insult that comes off as charming.
** Chunky is easily scared by everything. Keep in mind, he is TheBigGuy.
** Travis is clumsy, but also charming. No wonder Wendy fell for him.
** Korrin is not only a caring husband to Jane, but his clumsiness and him calling her "my deliciousness" as a compliment makes him even more endearing.
** Lord Tusk looks intimidating and is capable of slaughtering thousands of soldiers in the battlefield
!!Series with ease, but he is also a sensitive guy who likes when people read him bedtime stories.
* BaseBreakingCharacter:
** '''''Carl'''''
*** Calvin. You either think he is an interesting character and a great example of GoodIsNotNice, or you find his harsh treatment of his family, especially Carl, to be a bit excessive.
** '''''Bowser's Koopalings'''''
*** Larry Koopa. On one hand, he is very sympathetic and kind-hearted, which has earned the hearts of many fans. On the other side, however, other fans find him annoying.
*** Ludwig has a varied fanbase. You could either love his character for being snarky and understand where his demeanor comes from considering all that has happened to him or find him a total jerk who is too mean to Larry.
*** Wendy Koopa has a varied fanabase. You may either find her a interesting character who is likable for being a good friend/sibling for Larry. On the other hand, her social media obsession can be seen as annoying.
** '''''Donkey Kong Island'''''
*** DK and Diddy's parents are either funny because of
their [[AmazinglyEmbarrassingParents tendency to embarrass their kids]] and how open they are about the more... private aspects of their relationship, or are irritating because of those very same reasons. Them clearly favouring DK over [[BornUnlucky Diddy]] (although it seems to be unintentional on their part) does not help much.
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* CrossesTheLineTwice:
** '''''Carl'''''
*** A teenager dying in a parachute jumping accident in "Toad Town Puckers"? Tragic. The reason being that he was accidentally given a bag with sodas instead of an actual parachute? Hilarious.
** '''''Bowser's Koopalings'''''
*** This line from Morton in "Time Travel Trouble":
--->'''Morton''': So what does everyone think of this Adolf guy? Pretty horrible, right?
*** Bowser Jr. literally ''nuking'' an entire kingdom in "Son of Morton" as part of a CutawayGag.
** '''''Wars of Frozen Flames'''''
*** The prologue of the first episode is full of these. Standouts include King Edrick Koopa IV dying thirty days into his reign as a result of getting infected with the Black Plague, and Prince Joseph being stated to have disappeared [[SuspiciouslySpecificDenial under non-suspicious circumstances]] [[BlatantLies while he is shown inside his cell lying in a pool of blood]].
''YMMV/BowsersKoopalings''
* ''YMMV/{{Carl}}''
* ''YMMV/DonkeyKongIsland''
* ''YMMV/TheKoopaKids''
* ''YMMV/WarsOfFrozenFlames''
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* EnsembleDarkHorse:
** Roberto is very well-liked among the ''Carl'' fanbase. People consider him to be one of the funniest background characters in the show, if not the best.
** Sebastian. He's a recurring antagonist fans love seeing because of his cunning personality and [[OohMeAccentsSlipping his northen England accent, which he tries to hide]].
** Liam became this after decking Gooper in the face in "Bad Roxanne (1/2)" once he learns that he was blackmailing Roxanne into dating him, even warning him to never try it again. He might be a jerk, [[PetTheDog but he still cares for his sister deep down]].
** Some of Bowser's ancestors and relatives are quite popular and well-liked by fans due to their designs.
** Lord Birchard Python II, mainly for his LargeHam personality and how he tends to overreact at the most harmless comments, with many people joking that he is the way he is because he is bald, earning him the nickname of "Maldman" among fans.

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* EnsembleDarkHorse:
** Roberto is very well-liked among the ''Carl'' fanbase. People consider him to be one of the funniest background characters in the show, if not the best.
** Sebastian. He's a recurring antagonist fans love seeing because of his cunning personality and [[OohMeAccentsSlipping his northen England accent, which he tries to hide]].
** Liam became this after decking Gooper in the face in "Bad Roxanne (1/2)" once he learns that he was blackmailing Roxanne into dating him, even warning him to never try it again. He might be a jerk, [[PetTheDog but he still cares for his sister deep down]].
**
EnsembleDarkhorse: Some of Bowser's ancestors and relatives relatives, as seen in [[https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/628343832043454465/961006276492550184/Koopa_Monarchs_Version_9.0_background.png the Koopa Monarchy throughout history]] are quite popular and well-liked by fans due to their designs.
** Lord Birchard Python II, mainly for his LargeHam personality and how he tends to overreact at the most harmless comments, with many people joking that he is the way he is because he is bald, earning him the nickname of "Maldman" among fans.
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** No, Feeeze's old series, ''The Koopa Kids'', is not canon to any of the series. ''Bowser's Koopalings'' was especifically created to replace ''The Koopa Kids'' and {{Retcon}} it out of existance. Even Freeze and his team [[OldShame regard that series as an embarrasment that is better off forgotten]]. Additionally, the name itself is yet another FandomEnragingMisconception among the ''Super Mario Bros.'' fanbase.
* FanNickname:
** "Maldman" for Birchard Python.
** "Sigmund Pastries" for Lord Sigmund Phoenix [[spoiler:due to "ductile pastries" being his last words prior to his death]].
* HarsherInHindsight:
** ''Carl:''
*** One scene where Carl gets decapitated by a criminal in the Classic 2017 version of "The First Day" is uncomfortable to watch because Linda worries about Carl getting killed at Toad Town High in the 2022 remastered version of the episode as mentioned earlier.
*** In "Carl's Rival", after hearing Sebastian's (made-up) story about how a former girlfriend cheated on him, Talia says that Dry Bones would never do that to her. Later on, in "Carl's House Party" Dry Bones makes out with Kylie while both were drunk, and Talia breaks up with him after finding out. Thankfully, Talia and Dry Bones reunited in the Season 4 finale.
*** Calvin told Felix to try jumping out of a plane without using a parachute in "Mr Mitchell vs Mr Grey". Calvin's sarcastic comment is a lot less funny to laugh about ([[HilariousInHindsight or more]] [[BlackComedy depending on]] [[CrossesTheLineTwice your sense of humor]]) because exactly two seasons later, Falcon, a hockey player who played for the 'Screaming Sceptiles' in "Toad Town Puckers", jumps out of a plane without a parachute, being given a bad with sodas instead by accident, earlier in the week they were supposed to play the game and accidentally gets himself killed.
*** "2020" definitely counts as this. All the characters in ''Carl'' are very excited about the new year, and decade for that matter, and everyone is looking forward to it. Now contrast that with how the year 2020 went down in real life.
*** Kylie and Emily becoming a couple in "The New Girl" becomes hard to watch after Season 5 of ''Carl'' started showing [[{{Jerkass}} how nasty of a person Emily really is]]. It's even worse after having watched "The Valentine's Bowl", in which Emily not only breaks up with Kylie, [[MoralEventHorizon but also physically assaults her and makes a biphobic comment about her after Kylie confesses to having kissed Tucker]] (To makes things worse, Emily is not angry at Kylie for cheating on her, [[DoesNotLikeMen but for kissing a man]]).
** ''Bowser's Koopalings:''
*** Clawgrip's cannon exploding and getting mercilessly injured by Bowser Jr. in "Castle Crashers" is a little difficult to watch for those who really enjoyed [=InstaButNot=]'s voice work, as he left the team shortly after the release of this episode, with Clawgrip being his final role in any of [=FreezeFlame22=]'s shows

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** No, Feeeze's Freeze's old series, ''The Koopa Kids'', is not canon to any of the series. ''Bowser's Koopalings'' was especifically created to replace ''The Koopa Kids'' and {{Retcon}} it out of existance. Even Freeze and his team [[OldShame [[CreatorBacklash regard that series as an embarrasment embarrassment that is better off forgotten]]. Additionally, the name itself is yet another FandomEnragingMisconception among the ''Super Mario Bros.'' fanbase.
* FanNickname:
** "Maldman" for Birchard Python.
** "Sigmund Pastries" for Lord Sigmund Phoenix [[spoiler:due to "ductile pastries" being his last words prior to his death]].
* HarsherInHindsight:
** ''Carl:''
*** One scene where Carl gets decapitated by a criminal in the Classic 2017 version of "The First Day" is uncomfortable to watch because Linda worries about Carl getting killed at Toad Town High in the 2022 remastered version of the episode as mentioned earlier.
*** In "Carl's Rival", after hearing Sebastian's (made-up) story about how a former girlfriend cheated on him, Talia says that Dry Bones would never do that to her. Later on, in "Carl's House Party" Dry Bones makes out with Kylie while both were drunk, and Talia breaks up with him after finding out. Thankfully, Talia and Dry Bones reunited in the Season 4 finale.
*** Calvin told Felix to try jumping out of a plane without using a parachute in "Mr Mitchell vs Mr Grey". Calvin's sarcastic comment is a lot less funny to laugh about ([[HilariousInHindsight or more]] [[BlackComedy depending on]] [[CrossesTheLineTwice your sense of humor]]) because exactly two seasons later, Falcon, a hockey player who played for the 'Screaming Sceptiles' in "Toad Town Puckers", jumps out of a plane without a parachute, being given a bad with sodas instead by accident, earlier in the week they were supposed to play the game and accidentally gets himself killed.
*** "2020" definitely counts as this. All the characters in ''Carl'' are very excited about the new year, and decade for that matter, and everyone is looking forward to it. Now contrast that with how the year 2020 went down in real life.
*** Kylie and Emily becoming a couple in "The New Girl" becomes hard to watch after Season 5 of ''Carl'' started showing [[{{Jerkass}} how nasty of a person Emily really is]]. It's even worse after having watched "The Valentine's Bowl", in which Emily not only breaks up with Kylie, [[MoralEventHorizon but also physically assaults her and makes a biphobic comment about her after Kylie confesses to having kissed Tucker]] (To makes things worse, Emily is not angry at Kylie for cheating on her, [[DoesNotLikeMen but for kissing a man]]).
** ''Bowser's Koopalings:''
*** Clawgrip's cannon exploding and getting mercilessly injured by Bowser Jr. in "Castle Crashers" is a little difficult to watch for those who really enjoyed [=InstaButNot=]'s voice work, as he left the team shortly after the release of this episode, with Clawgrip being his final role in any of [=FreezeFlame22=]'s shows
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** Calvin tends to harsh towards his children (Mainly Carl.) but given that he had lived under a strained marriage, having a deadbeat father (Who is still a ass in the present.) whose main motives are food and girls, it’s clear to see why he’s like this.
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* LoveToHate: Basically, all of the [=FreezeFlame22=] major [[BigBad Big Bads]] (Gooper, Mary-Lynn, Sebastian, [=McInnes=], Bowser Jr., Camilla, Tyson, Krusha, Kennedy, and Candy). They may be [[{{Jerkass}} obnoxious]] and [[HateSink have little to no redeeming qualities]], but they are so well-thought-out that you can't help but enjoy every single second they have of screentime.

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* LoveToHate: Basically, all of Every single BigBad in the [=FreezeFlame22=] major [[BigBad Big Bads]] universe (Gooper, Mary-Lynn, Sebastian, [=McInnes=], Bowser Jr., Camilla, Tyson, Krusha, Kennedy, and Candy). They may be [[{{Jerkass}} obnoxious]] and [[HateSink have little to no redeeming qualities]], but they are so well-thought-out well-written that you can't help but enjoy every single second they have of screentime.
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* SpiritualAntithesis: ''Carl'' can be seen as one to ''WesternAnimation/{{Doug}}'', as both shows revolve around the everyday lives of the titular protagonists. However, while Doug Funnie is a painfully average 11-and-a-half-year-old who prefers solving his problems peacefully, Carl Mitchell won't hesitate to throw hands if something ticks him off enough.
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** Travis is clumsy, but also charming. No wonder Wendy fell for him.

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