History YMMV / FiveSecondsOfSummer

* BigLippedAlligatorMoment: As listed below, their song '18' randomly goes into a brief segment of Foo Fighters' 'Everlong.' It's a bit of mood whiplash, since the song was in a completely different tempo beforehand and goes back to how it was afterwards. It completely takes you out of the moment, especially if you've heard the other song beforehand.

* SuspiciouslySimilarSong: Examples include [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdLdqeNl5nQ "Social Casualty”]] having similar instrumental to Music/{{Fall Out Boy}}'s [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhG-vLZrb-g "Sugar, We're Goin' Down"]] and [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6T6o0iMfTbY "18"]] [[BigLippedAlligatorMoment randomly]] using part of the instrumental to Music/{{Foo Fighters}}' [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBG7P-K-r1Y "Everlong"]] at 1:54.

* SignatureSong: [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2BYmmTI04I "She Looks So Perfect"]

* SignatureSong: "She Looks So Perfect".

* SuspiciouslySimilarSong: Examples include [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdLdqeNl5nQ "Social Casualty”]] having the exact same instrumental as Music/{{Fall Out Boy}}'s [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhG-vLZrb-g "Sugar, We're Goin' Down"]], [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6T6o0iMfTbY "18"]] [[BigLippedAlligatorMoment randomly]] stealing part of the instrumental to Music/{{Foo Fighters}}' [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBG7P-K-r1Y "Everlong"]] at 1:54, & [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0X7u_mmREE "Jet Black Heart"]] sounding like a slowed down version of Music/PanicAtTheDisco's [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yk8jV7r6VMk "Girls/Girls/Boys"]], or something by Music/{{My Chemical Romance}}. It's a wonder they haven't been sued. Doesn't help when there's the fact that a majority of their fanbase simply [[FandomBerserkButton refuses]] to even remotely acknowledge the similarities, defending the songs with the "argument" that "there's only enough chords in the world", rather than demanding better from their favorite band. It wouldn't be that bad if they credited the writers of those songs in the writers' credit part of those songs, but they don't 99% of the time. The only song they credited the original song writers with is Music/{{Duran Duran}} for their song [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPGbvv4IhNU "Hey Everybody!"]], which means on some level, they're aware of what they're doing when writing songs. Coupled with other stuff they've done, they've effectively created a section of the Pop Punk fanbase that absolutely LOATHES them because they don't show an honest intent at any originality most of the time, and when they do, it's not that good, or at least not as good as the bands that inspire them. Their fans don't help that either, but that's the VocalMinority of a fanbase for you.
** There's also the fact that their sound is obviously taken very much from All Time Low. Yeah, Alex Gaskarth has written with them, but that's no excuse.
** [[https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL0Cv84OTeDd5h29bYRYxKl2fTIe6hoHQy This]] playlist is dedicated to pointing all of them out.

* {{Narm}}: Their track, '18' feels like a song by Music/SimplePlan and, thus, is ''very'' hard to take seriously with how the singer wishes to be 18. The most cringeworthy line in the song, out of many, ''has'' to be the "my mom still drives me to school" one. Its weird usage of the iconic guitar riff from the Foo Fighter's song 'Everlong' doesn't help whatsoever.

* AwardSnub: 5SOS lost to Fifth Harmony in the end for the Nickelodeon Kids' Choice Awards despite being the overwhelming favorite to win the category. And that's to say nothing about 5SOS being snubbed in 2016 in favor of 1D, despite the fact that the latter are on hiatus and the former are still active.

** Some fans will include in their main argument of why 5 Seconds of Summer deserves the success they've gotten is because of the fact that they essentially quit school to tour with One Direction not knowing what was going to happen next and not knowing if they were going to fail or succeed. The problem with this argument? They toured with ''One Direction''! A boyband with a ''massive'' fandom of teenage girls that were ''bound'' to take a shine to them, and ''did''! Given 5 Seconds of Summer are almost the same ages as them, they're four good looking males, and they play the same kinds of music, just with a light PopPunk edge to their sound, they were ''guaranteed'' a built-in audience waiting to spend their money on their future albums and merch. The fact that they produced over ''50'' tracks in 2 years from 2014-2015 spanning 2 deluxe albums and half a dozen's worth of EPs to profit off of the fangirls, have a ''massive'' fandom of teenage fangirls, and have reached a ''ton'' more success than even their predecessors have in ''their'' early years as recording artists, it not only proved the detractors who treated their success, and still do, like the ForegoneConclusion it was right, but it also makes their fangirls suffer from FanDumb and OpinionMyopia as a result, making many detractors take them even ''less'' seriously.
*** For comparison, it took Music/GreenDay 3 albums and a few EPs over a 4-year period (plus, Billie Joe and Mike quit school after Armstrong turned 18, several months shy of graduating, making 5SOS' story less unique) to reach their initial big success in the 90s, and another 10 to match their previous success after years of waning interest by people, Music/AllTimeLow started producing music while ''in'' high school and started touring and producing more right out of high school and have yet to reach their heights, and Music/{{Waterparks}}, a band that's, arguably, making more interesting and complex music in, roughly, the same genres, are still building up their audience and success after over half a decade's work including 3 EPs and an album so far, so it really shows how fast ''their'' popularity has built with the help they've received after the ColbertBump from One Direction as opposed to these other bands that haven't had much of any help going in to recording their music and touring.
** There's also, apparently, been a troll comment going around spreading misinformation that Billie Joe Armstrong from Green Day has said that 5 Seconds of Summer get a worse rep than they deserve and that he likes their music, despite him ''never'' saying so out loud. Many of the fans that repeat this misinformation end up looking stupid as a result.

** Same goes with British pop rock act The Vamps.

* {{Narm}}: Their track, '18' feels like a song by Music/SimplePlan and, thus, is ''very'' hard to take seriously with how the singer wishes to be 18. The most cringeworthy line in the song, out of many, ''has'' to be the "my mom still drives me to school" one. It's weird usage of the iconic guitar riff from the Foo Fighter's song 'Everlong' doesn't help whatsoever.

* [[Narm}}: Their track, '18' feels like a song by Music/SimplePlan and, thus, is ''very'' hard to take seriously with how the singer wishes to be 18. The most cringeworthy line in the song, out of many, ''has'' to be the "my mom still drives me to school" one. It's weird usage of the iconic guitar riff from the Foo Fighter's song 'Everlong' doesn't help whatsoever.

** Ironically given the above entries, there's a fairly large number of Music/FallOutBoy fans who also like them

** Of those mentioned above, there's at least a valid reason for similarities with Music/AllTimeLow; 5SOS have written with the band's lead singer Alex Gaskarth on multiple tracks

** Also, do NOT say they sound like another band, are lackluster, or anything else that can be construed as bad criticism. You WILL get swarmed by the VocalMinority trying to shoot you down no matter how true your point may be. Unless you want to troll the ones who do, then by all means...

* OlderThanTheyThink: Wait, people aren't sure if 5SOS is a pop punk band or a boy band? Are we talking about [[Music/McFly Mc]][[Music/{{Busted}} Busted]]?
** Music/FallOutBoy and [[Music/{{Blink182}} blink-182]], two of 5SOS' talked about influences, also had "boy band" and "not punk enough" thrown at them back in the day, despite both bands having a stronger punk pedigree than 5SOS.

** ** Another prominent, if rather one sided one, comes from fans of DefendPopPunk bands like The Wonder Years, The Story So Far, Knuckle Puck, Trophy Eyes and Trash Boat who detest the band for "ruining pop punk" by bucking the "slice of shitty life" style of the aforementioned bands for a rather unoriginal throwback to the late-2000s "neon pop-punk" sound.

** Some fans will include in their main argument of why 5 Seconds of Summer deserves the success they've gotten is because of the fact that they essentially quit school to tour with One Direction not knowing what was going to happen next and not knowing if they were going to fail or succeed. The problem with this argument? They toured with ''One Direction''! A boyband with a ''massive'' fandom of teenage girls that were ''bound'' to take a shine to them, and ''did''! Given 5 Seconds of Summer are almost the same ages as them, they're four good looking males, and they play the same kinds of music, just with a light PopPunk edge to their sound, they were ''guaranteed'' a built-in audience waiting to spend their money on their future albums and merch. The fact that they produced over ''50'' tracks in 2 years from 2014-2015 spanning 2 deluxe albums and half a dozen's worth of EPs to profit off of the fangirls, have a ''massive'' fandom of teenage fangirls, and have reached a ''ton'' more success than even their predecessors have in ''their'' early years as recording artists, it not only proved the detractors who treated their success, and still do, like the ForegoneConclusion it was, it makes their fangirls suffer from FanDumb and OpinionMyopia as a result, making many detractors take them even ''less'' seriously.

* GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff: Prior to 5SOS, an Australian pop punk/pop rock band having international success was virtually unheard of. To those that consider them a boy band, they're seen as the only foreign one besides One Direction to have made it big in America.

* FanMyopia: Part of the backlash against 5SOS from some pop punk fans comes from this. When you have 5SOS fans that are less familiar with rock and pop punk confusing their cover of Music/GreenDay's 'American Idiot' as an original song, there's bound to be some rustled jimmies. There's also a sizable amount of these pop punk fans angry about 5SOS fans calling the band things like "the next blink-182". These comments are either made by a very small amount of misguided 5SOS fans, entirely made up, or obvious troll fodder, but that doesn't stop that segment of pop punk fans from getting very, very angry about it. Then there are the Pop Punk fans who recognize their songs as sounding eerily similar to other ones from years before, angering the 5SOS fans who clearly don't hear what they're talking about, or will outright deny the claims.
** Some fans will include in their main argument of why 5 Seconds of Summer deserves the success they've gotten is because of the fact that they essentially quit school to tour with One Direction not knowing what was going to happen next and not knowing if they were going to fail or succeed. The problem with this argument? They toured with ''One Direction''! A boyband with a ''massive'' fandom of teenage girls that were ''bound'' to take a shine to them, and ''did''! Given 5 Seconds of Summer are almost the same ages as them, they're four good looking males, and they play the same kinds of music, just with a light PopPunk edge to their sound, they were ''guaranteed'' a built-in audience waiting to spend their money on their future albums and merch. The fact that they produced over ''50'' tracks in 2 years from 2014-2015 spanning 2 deluxe albums and half a dozen's worth of EPs to profit off of the fangirls, have a ''massive'' fandom of teenage fangirls, and have reached a ''ton'' more success even their predecessors have in ''their'' early years as recording artists, it not only proved the detractors who treated their success, and still do, like the ForegoneConclusion it was, it makes their fangirls suffer from FanDumb and OpinionMyopia as a result, making many detractors take them even ''less'' seriously.

*** For comparison, it took Music/GreenDay 3 albums and a few EPs over a 4-year period (plus, Billie Joe and Mike quit school after Armstrong turned 18, several months shy of graduating, making 5SOS' story less unique), and another 10 to match their previous success after years of waning interest by people, Music/AllTimeLow started producing music while ''in'' high school and started touring and producing more right out of high school and have yet to reach their heights, and Music/{{Waterparks}}, a band that's, arguably, making more interesting and complex music in, roughly, the same genres, are still building up their audience and success after over half a decade's work including 3 EPs and an album so far, so it really shows how fast ''their'' popularity has built with the help they've received after the ColbertBump from One Direction as opposed to these other bands that haven't had much of any help going in to recording their music and touring.

** Some fans will include in their main argument of why 5 Seconds of Summer deserves the success they've gotten is because of the fact that they essentially quit school to tour with One Direction not knowing what was going to happen next and not knowing if they were going to fail or succeed. The problem with this argument? They toured with ''One Direction''! A boyband with a ''massive'' fandom of teenage girls that were ''bound'' to take a shine to them, and ''did''! Given 5 Seconds of Summer are almost the same ages as them, they're four good looking males, and they play the same kinds of music, just with a light PopPunk edge to their sound, they were ''guaranteed'' a built-in audience waiting to spend their money on their future albums and merch. The fact that they produced over ''50'' tracks in 2 years from 2014-2015 spanning 2 deluxe albums and half a dozen's worth of EPs to profit off of the fangirls, have a ''massive'' fandom of teenage fangirls, and have reached a ''ton'' more success even their predecessors have in ''their'' early years as recording artists, it not only proved the detractors who treated their success, and still do, like the ForegoneConclusion it was, it makes their fangirls suffer from FanDumb and OpinionMyopia as a result, making many detractors take them even ''less'' seriously. For comparison, it took Music/GreenDay 3 albums and a few EPs over a 4-year period (plus, Billie Joe and Mike quit school after Armstrong turned 18, several months shy of graduating, making 5SOS' story less unique), and another 10 to match their previous success after years of waning interest by people, Music/AllTimeLow started producing music while ''in'' high school and started touring and producing more right out of high school and have yet to reach their heights, and Music/{{Waterparks}}, a band that's, arguably, making more interesting and complex music in, roughly, the same genres, are still building up their audience and success after over half a decade's work including 3 EPs and an album so far, so it really shows how fast ''their'' popularity has built with the help they've received after the ColbertBump from One Direction as opposed to these other bands that haven't had much of any help going in to recording their music and touring.

** Some fans will include in their main argument of why 5 Seconds of Summer deserves the success they've gotten is because of the fact that they essentially quit school to tour with One Direction not knowing what was going to happen next and not knowing if they were going to fail or succeed. The problem with this argument? They toured with ''One Direction''! A boyband with a ''massive'' fandom of teenage girls that were ''bound'' to take a shine to them, and ''did''! Given 5 Seconds of Summer are almost the same ages as them, they're four good looking males, and they play the same kinds of music, just with a light PopPunk edge to their sound, they were ''guaranteed'' a built-in audience waiting to spend their money on their future albums and merch. The fact that they produced over ''50'' tracks in 2 years from 2014-2015 spanning 2 deluxe albums and half a dozen's worth of EPs to profit off of the fangirls, have a ''massive'' fandom of teenage fangirls, and have reached a ''ton'' more success even their predecessors have in ''their'' early years as recording artists, it not only proved the detractors who treated their success, and still do, like the ForegoneConclusion it was, it makes their fangirls suffer from FanDumb and OpinionMyopia as a result, making many detractors take them even ''less'' seriously. For comparison, it took Music/GreenDay 3 albums and a few EPs over a 4-year period (plus, Billie Joe and Mike quit school after Armstrong turned 18, several months shy of graduating, making 5SOS' story less unique), and another 10 to match their previous success after years of waning interest by people, Music/AllTimeLow started producing music while ''in'' high school and started touring and producing more right out of high school and have yet to reach their heights, and Music/Waterparks, a band that's, arguably, making more interesting and complex music in, roughly, the same genres, are still building up their audience and success after over half a decade's work including 3 EPs and an album so far, so it really shows how fast ''their'' popularity has built with the help they've received after the ColbertBump from One Direction as opposed to these other bands that haven't had much of any help going in to recording their music and touring.

** Some fans will include in their main argument of why 5 Seconds of Summer deserves the success they've gotten is because of the fact that they essentially quit school to tour with One Direction not knowing what was going to happen next and not knowing if they were going to fail or succeed. The problem with this argument? They toured with ''One Direction''! A boyband with a ''massive'' fandom of teenage girls that were ''bound'' to take a shine to them, and ''did''! Given 5 Seconds of Summer are almost the same ages as them, they're four good looking males, and they play the same kinds of music, just with a light PopPunk edge to their sound, they were ''guaranteed'' a built-in audience waiting to spend their money on their future albums and merch. The fact that they produced over ''50'' tracks in 2 years from 2014-2015 spanning 2 deluxe albums and half a dozen's worth of EPs to profit off of the fangirls, have a ''massive'' fandom of teenage fangirls, and have reached a ''ton'' more success even their predecessors have in ''their'' early years as recording artists, it not only proved the detractors who treated their success, and still do, like the ForegoneConclusion it was, it makes their fangirls suffer from FanDumb and OpinionMyopia as a result, making many detractors take them even ''less'' seriously. For comparison, it took Music/GreenDay 3 albums and a few EPs over a 4-year period (plus, Billie Joe and Mike quit school after Armstong turned 18, several months shy of graduating, making 5SOS' story less unique), and another 10 to match their previous success after years of waning interest by people, Music/AllTimeLow started producing music while ''in'' high school and started touring and producing more right out of high school and have yet to reach their heights, and Music/Waterparks, a band that's, arguably, making more interesting and complex music in, roughly, the same genres, are still building up their audience and success after over half a decade's work including 3 EPs and an album so far, so it really shows how fast ''their'' popularity has built with the help they've received after the ColbertBump from One Direction as opposed to these other bands that haven't had much of any help going in to recording their music and touring.

** Some fans will include in their main argument of why 5 Seconds of Summer deserves the success they've gotten is because of the fact that they essentially quit school to tour with One Direction not knowing what was going to happen next and not knowing if they were going to fail or succeed. The problem with this argument? They toured with ''One Direction''! A boyband with a ''massive'' fandom of teenage girls that were ''bound'' to take a shine to them, and ''did''! Given 5 Seconds of Summer are almost the same ages as them, they're four good looking males, and they play the same kinds of music, just with a light PopPunk edge to their sound, they were ''guaranteed'' a built-in audience waiting to spend their money on their future albums and merch. The fact that they produced over ''50'' tracks in 2 years from 2014-2015 spanning 2 deluxe albums and half a dozen's worth of EPs to profit off of the fangirls, have a ''massive'' fandom of teenage fangirls, and have reached a ''ton'' more success even their predecessors have in ''their'' early years as recording artists, it not only proved the detractors who treated their success, and still do, like the ForegoneConclusion it was, it makes their fangirls suffer from FanDumb and OpinionMyopia as a result, making many detractors take them even ''less'' seriously. For comparison, it took Music/GreenDay 3 albums and a few EPs over a 4-year period (plus, Billie Joe and Mike quit school after Armstong turned 18, several months shy of graduating), and another 10 to match their previous success after years of waning interest by people, Music/AllTimeLow started producing music while ''in'' high school and started touring and producing more right out of high school and have yet to reach their heights, and Music/Waterparks, a band that's, arguably, making more interesting and complex music in, roughly, the same genres, are still building up their audience and success after over half a decade's work including 3 EPs and an album so far, so it really shows how fast ''their'' popularity has built with the help they've received after the ColbertBump from One Direction as opposed to these other bands that haven't had much of any help going in to recording their music and touring.

** Some fans will include in their main argument of why 5 Seconds of Summer deserves the success they've gotten is because of the fact that they essentially quit school to tour with One Direction not knowing what was going to happen next and not knowing if they were going to fail or succeed. The problem with this argument? They toured with ''One Direction''! A boyband with a ''massive'' fandom of teenage girls that were ''bound'' to take a shine to them, and ''did''! Given 5 Seconds of Summer are almost the same ages as them, they're four good looking males, and they play the same kinds of music, just with a light PopPunk edge to their sound, they were ''guaranteed'' a built-in audience waiting to spend their money on their future albums and merch. The fact that they produced over ''50'' tracks in 2 years from 2014-2015 spanning 2 deluxe albums and half a dozen's worth of EPs to profit off of the fangirls, have a ''massive'' fandom of teenage fangirls, and have reached a ''ton'' more success even their predecessors have in ''their'' early years as recording artists, it not only proved the detractors who treated their success, and still do, like the ForegoneConclusion it was, it makes their fangirls suffer from FanDumb and OpinionMyopia as a result, making many detractors take them even ''less'' seriously. For comparison, it took Music/GreenDay 3 albums and a few EPs over a 4-year period (plus, Billie Joe and Mike quit school after Armstong turned 18, several months shy of graduating), and another 10 to match their previous success after years of waning interest by people, Music/AllTimeLow started producing music while ''in'' high school and started touring and producing more right out of high school and have yet to reach their heights, and Music/Waterparks, a band that's, arguably, making more interesting and complex music in, roughly, the same genres, are still building up their audience and success after over half a decade's work including 3 EPs and an album so far, so it really shows how fast ''their'' popularity has built with the help they've received after the ColbertBump from One Direction as opposed to these other bands that haven't had much of any help going in to recording their music and touring.
** There's also, apparently, a troll comment going around spreading misinformation that Billie Joe Armstrong from Green Day has said that 5 Seconds of Summer get a worse rep than they deserve and that he likes their music, despite him ''never'' saying so out loud. Many of the fans that repeat this misinformation end up looking stupid as a result.

** Some fans will include in their main argument of why 5 Seconds of Summer deserves the success they've gotten is because of the fact that they essentially quit school to tour with One Direction not knowing what was going to happen next and not knowing if they were going to fail or succeed. The problem with this argument? They toured with ''One Direction''! A boyband with a ''massive'' fandom of teenage girls that were ''bound'' to take a shine to them, and ''did''! Given 5 Seconds of Summer are almost the same ages as them, they're four good looking males, and they play the same kinds of music, just with a light PopPunk edge to their sound, they were ''guaranteed'' a built-in audience waiting to spend their money on their future albums and merch. The fact that they produced over ''50'' tracks in 2 years from 2014-2015 spanning 2 deluxe albums and half a dozen's worth of EPs to profit off of the fangirls, have a ''massive'' fandom of teenage fangirls, and have reached a ''ton'' more success even their predecessors have in ''their'' early years as recording artists, it not only proved the detractors who treated their success, and still do, like the ForegoneConclusion it was, it makes their fangirls suffer from FanDumb and OpinionMyopia as a result, making many detractors take them even ''less' seriously.

** Some fans will include in their main argument of why 5 Seconds of Summer deserves the success they've gotten is because of the fact that they essentially quit school to tour with One Direction not knowing what was going to happen next and not knowing if they were going to fail or succeed. The problem with this argument? They toured with ''One Direction''! A boyband with a ''massive'' fandom of teenage girls that were ''bound'' to take a shine to them, and ''did''! Given 5 Seconds of Summer are almost the same ages as them, they're four good looking males, and they play the same kinds of music, just with a light PopPunk edge to their sound, they were ''guaranteed'' a built-in audience waiting to spend their money on their future albums and merch. The fact that they produced over ''50'' tracks in 2 years from 2014-2015 spanning 2 deluxe albums and half a dozen's worth of EPs to profit off of the fangirls, have a ''massive'' fandom of teenage fangirls, and have reached a ''ton'' more success even their predecessors have in ''their'' early years as recording artists, it not only did this prove the detractors who treated their success, and still do, like the ForegoneConclusion it was, it makes their fangirls suffer from FanDumb and OpinionMyopia as a result, making many detractors take them even ''less' seriously.

** Some fans will include in their main argument of why 5 Seconds of Summer deserves the success they've gotten is because of the fact that they essentially quit school to tour with One Direction not knowing what was going to happen next and not knowing if they were going to fail or succeed. The problem with this argument? They toured with ''One Direction''! A boyband with a ''massive'' fandom of teenage girls that were ''bound'' to take a shine to them, and ''did''! Given 5 Seconds of Summer are almost the same ages as them, they're four good looking males, and they play the same kinds of music, just with a light PopPunk edge to their sound, they were ''guaranteed'' a built-in audience waiting to spend their money on their future albums and merch. The fact that they produced over ''50'' tracks in 2 years from 2014-2015 spanning 2 deluxe albums and half a dozen's worth of EPs to profit off of the fangirls, have a ''massive'' fandom of teenage fangirls, and have reached a ''ton'' more success even their predecessors have in ''their'' early years as recording artists, not only did this prove the detractors who treated their success, and still do, like the ForegoneConclusion it was, it makes their fangirls suffer from FanDumb and OpinionMyopia as a result, making many detractors take them even ''less' seriously.