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** To a lesser extent, a loud minority of "culture war youtubers" (content creators known for exaggerated and inflammatory takes criticizing "forced diversity" in media) were quick to lambast the show leading up to the premiere due to its female and black protagonists claiming it would bomb as bad as ''Film/TheMarvels2023'' or the aforementioned Halo TV series. When the show dropped and became highly praised by fans and regular viewers alike, most of this group quickly sung the series' praises or [[KnowWhenToFoldEm moved on to different media to criticize]]. That being said... a portion of that small minority didn't even watch the show, and just confirmed their biases with a couple clips (namely, Titus running away from a bear being seen as an insult to the Brotherhood, and Lucy and Max's "sex talk") without the context that made the scenes work.

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** To a lesser extent, a loud minority of "culture "[[AngryWhiteMan culture war youtubers" youtubers]]" (content creators known for exaggerated and inflammatory takes criticizing "forced diversity" in media) were quick to lambast the show leading up to the premiere due to its female and black protagonists claiming it would bomb as bad as ''Film/TheMarvels2023'' or the aforementioned Halo TV series. series, and that it will be universally loathed by ''everyone'', especially fans. When the show dropped and became highly praised by fans and regular viewers alike, most of this group quickly sung the series' praises or praises, [[KnowWhenToFoldEm moved on to different media to criticize]].criticize]], or (in more extreme cases) [[BiasSteamroller let their personal biases justify them giving the show a negative review]]. That being said... a portion of that small minority didn't even watch the show, and just confirmed their biases with a couple clips (namely, Titus running away from a bear being seen as an insult to the Brotherhood, Brotherhood and, and Lucy and Max's "sex talk") without the context that made the scenes work.explain what is happening in these scenes.



* MoralEventHorizon: Thaddeus loses all audience sympathy when he [[spoiler:locks Dogmeat in a Nuka-Cola cooler and leaves her to die despite her doing little more than inconveniencing him.]]

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* MoralEventHorizon: Thaddeus loses all audience sympathy when he [[spoiler:locks Dogmeat in a Nuka-Cola cooler and leaves her to die despite her doing little more than inconveniencing him.]]him]].



* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: [[spoiler:For a lot of viewers, Lee Moldaver's reveal as GoodAllAlong doesn't remotely justify her actions in the first episode and she has crossed the MoralEventHorizon every bit as much as Hank [=MacLean=]. This is especially true if you note her use of a wedding to cover her attack explicitly sets up Lucy to be sexually assaulted and murdered by deception despite being the daughter of her close friend.]]

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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: [[spoiler:For a lot of viewers, Lee Moldaver's reveal as GoodAllAlong doesn't remotely justify her actions in the first episode and she has crossed the MoralEventHorizon every bit as much as Hank [=MacLean=]. [=MacLean=] did. This is especially true if you note her use of a wedding to cover her attack explicitly sets up Lucy to be sexually assaulted and murdered by deception despite being the daughter of her close friend.]]friend]].
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** Given how much older he looks than before, is Frederick Sinclair the same character as before (retroactively making him a BitchInSheepsClothing) or [[LikeFatherUnlikeSon his father]]?

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* AndYouThoughtItWouldFail: Leading up to the premiere, there was much grumbling and speculation over the quality of the series due to the ''very'' long track record of [[VideoGameMoviesSuck terrible live-action adaptations of various Video Game properties]], with diehard fans in particular being worried about it turning out to be as lackluster and divisive as ''Series/Halo2022'' or ''Series/ResidentEvil2022''. After the premiere was wildly well received by audiences and critics alike, many of these same fans were pleasantly surprised (though some had issues concerning the lore aspects).
** To a lesser extent, a loud minority of "culture war youtubers" (content creators known for exaggerated and inflammatory takes criticizing "forced diversity" in media) were quick to lambast the show leading up to the premier due to its female and black protagonists claiming it would bomb as bad as ''Film/TheMarvels2023'' or the aforementioned Halo TV series. When the show dropped and became highly praised by fans and regular viewers alike, most of this group quickly sung the series' praises or [[KnowWhenToFoldEm moved on to different media to criticize]]. That being said... a portion of that small minority didn't even watch the show, and just confirmed their biases with a couple clips (namely, Titus running away from a bear being seen as an insult to the Brotherhood, and Lucy and Max's "sex talk") without the context that made the scenes work.

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Leading up to the premiere, there was much grumbling and speculation over the quality of the series due to the ''very'' long track record of [[VideoGameMoviesSuck terrible live-action adaptations of various Video Game properties]], with diehard fans in particular being worried about it turning out to be as lackluster and divisive as ''Series/Halo2022'' or ''Series/ResidentEvil2022''. After the premiere was wildly well received by audiences and critics alike, many of these same fans were pleasantly surprised (though some had issues concerning the lore aspects).
** To a lesser extent, a loud minority of "culture war youtubers" (content creators known for exaggerated and inflammatory takes criticizing "forced diversity" in media) were quick to lambast the show leading up to the premier premiere due to its female and black protagonists claiming it would bomb as bad as ''Film/TheMarvels2023'' or the aforementioned Halo TV series. When the show dropped and became highly praised by fans and regular viewers alike, most of this group quickly sung the series' praises or [[KnowWhenToFoldEm moved on to different media to criticize]]. That being said... a portion of that small minority didn't even watch the show, and just confirmed their biases with a couple clips (namely, Titus running away from a bear being seen as an insult to the Brotherhood, and Lucy and Max's "sex talk") without the context that made the scenes work.
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* CommonKnowledge: New Vegas being in ruins and abandoned is something that many viewers extrapolated based on exactly ''one shot'' that shows the city dark in the distance... at dawn, when the lights would logically be shut off. While it is dark and partly damaged, there's nothing to indicate that New Vegas is so destroyed that the Courier's efforts were AllForNothing. Even if there is no power, an equally likely explanation could simply be that a recent attack robbed New Vegas of its electricity, and that the city is still functioning to a degree.

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* CommonKnowledge: New [[spoiler:New Vegas being in ruins and abandoned is something that many viewers extrapolated based on exactly ''one shot'' that shows the city dark in the distance... at dawn, when the lights would logically be shut off. While it is dark and partly damaged, there's nothing to indicate that New Vegas is so destroyed that the Courier's efforts were AllForNothing. Even if there is no power, an equally likely explanation could simply be that a recent attack robbed New Vegas of its electricity, and that the city is still functioning to a degree. ]]
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* CommonKnowledge: New Vegas being in ruins and abandoned is something that many viewers extrapolated based on exactly ''one shot'' that shows the city dark in the distance... at dawn, when the lights would logically be shut off. While it is dark and partly damaged, there's nothing to indicate that New Vegas is so destroyed that the Courier's efforts were AllForNothing. Even if there is no power, an equally likely explanation could simply be that a recent attack robbed New Vegas of its electricity, and that the city is still functioning to a degree.
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** To a lesser extent, a loud minority of "culture war youtubers" (content creators known for exaggerated and inflammatory takes criticizing "forced diversity" in media) were quick to lambast the show leading up to the premier due to its female and black protagonists claiming it would bomb as bad as ''Film/TheMarvels2023'' or the aforementioned Halo TV series. When the show dropped and became highly praised by fans and regular viewers alike, most of this group quickly sung the series' praises or [[KnowWhenToFoldEm moved on to different media to criticize]]. That being said... a portion of that small minority didn't even watch the show, and just confirmed their biases with a couple out of clips (namely, Titus running away from a bear being seen as an insult to the Brotherhood, and Lucy and Max's "sex talk") without the context that made the scenes work.

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** To a lesser extent, a loud minority of "culture war youtubers" (content creators known for exaggerated and inflammatory takes criticizing "forced diversity" in media) were quick to lambast the show leading up to the premier due to its female and black protagonists claiming it would bomb as bad as ''Film/TheMarvels2023'' or the aforementioned Halo TV series. When the show dropped and became highly praised by fans and regular viewers alike, most of this group quickly sung the series' praises or [[KnowWhenToFoldEm moved on to different media to criticize]]. That being said... a portion of that small minority didn't even watch the show, and just confirmed their biases with a couple out of clips (namely, Titus running away from a bear being seen as an insult to the Brotherhood, and Lucy and Max's "sex talk") without the context that made the scenes work.
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** To a lesser extent, a loud minority of "culture war youtubers" (content creators known for exaggerated and inflammatory takes criticizing "forced diversity" in media) were quick to lambast the show leading up to the premier due to its female and black protagonists claiming it would bomb as bad as ''Film/TheMarvels2023'' or the aforementioned Halo TV series. When the show dropped and became highly praised by fans and regular viewers alike, most of this group quickly sung the series' praises or [[KnowWhenToFoldEm moved on to different media to criticize]].

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** To a lesser extent, a loud minority of "culture war youtubers" (content creators known for exaggerated and inflammatory takes criticizing "forced diversity" in media) were quick to lambast the show leading up to the premier due to its female and black protagonists claiming it would bomb as bad as ''Film/TheMarvels2023'' or the aforementioned Halo TV series. When the show dropped and became highly praised by fans and regular viewers alike, most of this group quickly sung the series' praises or [[KnowWhenToFoldEm moved on to different media to criticize]]. That being said... a portion of that small minority didn't even watch the show, and just confirmed their biases with a couple out of clips (namely, Titus running away from a bear being seen as an insult to the Brotherhood, and Lucy and Max's "sex talk") without the context that made the scenes work.
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** How [[spoiler: complicit is [[VideoGame/FalloutNewVegas Mr. House]] in Vault-Tec's experiments and the events that led to the Great War? He's shown both not actively agreeing with Vault-Tec's plans and actively having doubts as to whether such an "investment" is worth the payoff. Plus, his personality in the game he debuts from [[PragmaticVillainy shows him as a lot more considerate and moderate]] when explaining his motivations than the other executives at the meeting were known for being in the lore.]]

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** How [[spoiler: complicit is [[VideoGame/FalloutNewVegas Mr. House]] in Vault-Tec's experiments and the events that led to the Great War? He's shown both not actively agreeing with Vault-Tec's plans and actively having doubts as to whether such an "investment" is worth the payoff. Plus, his personality in the game he debuts from [[PragmaticVillainy shows him as a lot more considerate and moderate]] when explaining his motivations than the other executives at the meeting were known for being in the lore.lore adds more question to Mr. House's complicity to ending the world.]]
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* AndYouThoughtItWouldFail: Leading up to the premiere there was much grumbling and speculation over the quality of the series, with diehard fans worried about it being a similarly lackluster and divisive adaptation like the ''Halo'' TV series. After the premiere was wildly well received by audiences and critics alike, the same fans were pleasantly surprised (though some had issues concerning the lore aspects).
** To a lesser extent, a loud minority of "culture war youtubers" (content creators known for exaggerated and inflammatory takes criticizing "forced diversity" in media) were quick to lambast the show leading up to the premier due to its female and black protagonists claiming it would bomb as bad as the Marvel's or the Halo tv series. When the show dropped and became highly praised by fans and regular viewers alike most of this group quickly sung the series' praises or moved on to different media to criticize.

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* AndYouThoughtItWouldFail: Leading up to the premiere premiere, there was much grumbling and speculation over the quality of the series, series due to the ''very'' long track record of [[VideoGameMoviesSuck terrible live-action adaptations of various Video Game properties]], with diehard fans in particular being worried about it being a similarly turning out to be as lackluster and divisive adaptation like the ''Halo'' TV series. as ''Series/Halo2022'' or ''Series/ResidentEvil2022''. After the premiere was wildly well received by audiences and critics alike, the many of these same fans were pleasantly surprised (though some had issues concerning the lore aspects).
** To a lesser extent, a loud minority of "culture war youtubers" (content creators known for exaggerated and inflammatory takes criticizing "forced diversity" in media) were quick to lambast the show leading up to the premier due to its female and black protagonists claiming it would bomb as bad as the Marvel's ''Film/TheMarvels2023'' or the aforementioned Halo tv TV series. When the show dropped and became highly praised by fans and regular viewers alike alike, most of this group quickly sung the series' praises or [[KnowWhenToFoldEm moved on to different media to criticize.criticize]].
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** How [[spoiler: complicit is [[VideoGame/FalloutNewVegas Mr. House]] in Vault-Tec's experiments and the events that led to the Great War? He's shown both not actively agreeing with Vault-Tec's plans and actively having doubts as to whether such an "investment" is worth the payoff.]]

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** How [[spoiler: complicit is [[VideoGame/FalloutNewVegas Mr. House]] in Vault-Tec's experiments and the events that led to the Great War? He's shown both not actively agreeing with Vault-Tec's plans and actively having doubts as to whether such an "investment" is worth the payoff. Plus, his personality in the game he debuts from [[PragmaticVillainy shows him as a lot more considerate and moderate]] when explaining his motivations than the other executives at the meeting were known for being in the lore.]]
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** to a lesser extent a loud minority of "culture war youtubers" (content creators known for exaggerated and inflammatory takes criticizing "forced diversity" in media) were quick to lambast the show leading up to the premier due to its female and black protagonists claiming it would bomb as bad as the Marvel's or the Halo tv series. When the show dropped and became highly praised by fans and regular viewers alike most of this group quickly sung the series' praises or moved on to different media to criticize.

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** to To a lesser extent extent, a loud minority of "culture war youtubers" (content creators known for exaggerated and inflammatory takes criticizing "forced diversity" in media) were quick to lambast the show leading up to the premier due to its female and black protagonists claiming it would bomb as bad as the Marvel's or the Halo tv series. When the show dropped and became highly praised by fans and regular viewers alike most of this group quickly sung the series' praises or moved on to different media to criticize.
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** to a lesser extent a loud minority of "culture war youtubers" (content creators known for exaggerated and inflammatory takes criticizing "forced diversity" in media) were quick to lambast the show leading up to the premier due to its female and black protagonists claiming it would bomb as bad as the Marvel's or the Halo tv series. When the show dropped and became highly praised by fans and regular viewers alike most of this group quickly sung the series' praises or moved on to different media to criticize.
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** How [[spoiler: complicit is [[VideoGame/FalloutNewVegas Mr. House in Vault-Tec's experiments and the events that led to the Great War? He's shown both not actively agreeing with Vault-Tec's plans and actively having doubts as to whether such an "investment" is worth the payoff.]]

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** How [[spoiler: complicit is [[VideoGame/FalloutNewVegas Mr. House House]] in Vault-Tec's experiments and the events that led to the Great War? He's shown both not actively agreeing with Vault-Tec's plans and actively having doubts as to whether such an "investment" is worth the payoff.]]
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** How [[spoiler: complicit is [[VideoGame/FalloutNewVegas Mr. House in Vault-Tec's experiments and the events that led to the Great War? He's shown both not actively agreeing with Vault-Tec's plans and actively having doubts as to whether such an "investment" is worth the payoff.]]
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* AngstAversion: Many within the ''VideoGame/FalloutNewVegas'' fandom reacted negatively to [[spoiler:the impact this series has had on a number of factions within the game; the NCR has been left in an unclear but worse state years after their last appearance, with Shady Sands being stated to have fallen in 2277 (with some accusations that it has decanonized ''New Vegas'' entirely as it was the same year that the First Battle for Hoover Dam took place, with Shady Sands and the NCR still being major players four years later which losing a capital city would certainly upend). Also, Mr. House was revealed to be one of the participants at Vault-Tec's meeting about the Vaults and instigating the Great War, while TheStinger of the finale shows that New Vegas itself has been abandoned or at least left in a ruined state of its own over a decade later, making any action the Courier took to help Vegas and the factions a case of AllForNothing. Some fans even went so far as to accuse Bethesda of [[ArmedWithCanon writing this into the series]] out of ''spite'', as part of a long-standing and repeatedly debunked conspiracy theory that Bethesda is bitter at the CultClassic status of ''New Vegas.'']].

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* AngstAversion: Many within the ''VideoGame/FalloutNewVegas'' fandom reacted negatively to [[spoiler:the impact this series has had on a number of factions within the game; the NCR has been left in an unclear but worse state years after their last appearance, with Shady Sands being stated to have fallen in 2277 (with some accusations that it has decanonized ''New Vegas'' entirely as it was the same year that the First Battle for Hoover Dam took place, with Shady Sands and the NCR still being major players four years later which losing a capital city would certainly upend). Also, Mr. House was revealed to be one of the participants at Vault-Tec's meeting about the Vaults and instigating the Great War, while TheStinger of the finale shows that New Vegas itself has been abandoned or at least left in a ruined state of its own over a decade later, making any action the Courier took to help Vegas and the factions a case of AllForNothing. Some fans even went so far as to accuse Bethesda of [[ArmedWithCanon writing this into the series]] out of ''spite'', as part of a long-standing and repeatedly debunked conspiracy theory that Bethesda is bitter at the CultClassic status of ''New Vegas.'']].Vegas'']].

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** Is Titus a DirtyCoward and a sign the Brotherhood is unworthy of respect or is his distaste for Maximus more personal? After all, Maximus is a replacement for his presumably chosen squire that is believed to have deliberately injured them to get his position. The fact Maximus is an adopted war orphan from Shady Sands versus one of the Brotherhood's tradition bloodlines may also play a part in this distaste. Was he actually sending Maximus off to die in the cave or did he know that the Enclave scientist was harmless and was just giving him a SecretTestOfCharacter? Was his statement about getting him executed also just the pain talking or sincere?
** Just how good is [[spoiler:Moldaver]] anyway? [[spoiler:NCR's survivors think of her as a BigGood but she leads a bunch of Raiders to Vault 33 and they end up slaughtering plenty of innocents. Furthermore, her plan will result in the sexual assault and death of her supposed friend's daughter (and also the murder her son).]] Did she have a last-minute change of heart, or was this a sign of how much she despised [[spoiler:Hank?]]

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** Is Titus a DirtyCoward and a sign the Brotherhood is unworthy of respect or is his distaste for Maximus more personal? After all, Maximus is a replacement for his presumably chosen squire that is believed to have deliberately injured them to get his position. The fact Maximus is an adopted war orphan from Shady Sands versus one of the Brotherhood's tradition traditional bloodlines may also play a part in this distaste. Was he actually sending Maximus off to die in the cave or did he know that the Enclave scientist was harmless and was just giving him a SecretTestOfCharacter? Was his statement about getting him executed also just the pain talking or sincere?
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[[spoiler:NCR's survivors think of her as a BigGood but she leads a bunch of Raiders to Vault 33 and they end up slaughtering plenty of innocents. Furthermore, her plan will result in the sexual assault and death of her supposed friend's daughter (and also the murder her son).]] Did she have a last-minute change of heart, or was this a sign of how much she despised [[spoiler:Hank?]]



** Hank's decision to [[spoiler: nuke Shady Sands and destroy the NCR government]] is one that is of questionable motivation. [[spoiler: Did he do it because Vault-Tec ordered him to destroy a thriving government, because he was jealous of his wife's new companion that was taking his kids, or both?]]

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** Hank's decision to [[spoiler: nuke [[spoiler:nuke Shady Sands and destroy the NCR government]] is one that is of questionable motivation. [[spoiler: Did [[spoiler:Did he do it because Vault-Tec ordered him to destroy a thriving government, because he was jealous of his wife's new companion that was taking his kids, or both?]]



* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: [[spoiler: For a lot of viewers, Lee Moldaver's reveal as GoodAllAlong doesn't remotely justify her actions in the first episode and she has crossed the MoralEventHorizon every bit as much as Hank [=MacLean=]. This is especially true if you note her use of a wedding to cover her attack explictly sets up Lucy to be sexually assaulted and murdered by deception despite being the daughter of her close friend.]]

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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: [[spoiler: For [[spoiler:For a lot of viewers, Lee Moldaver's reveal as GoodAllAlong doesn't remotely justify her actions in the first episode and she has crossed the MoralEventHorizon every bit as much as Hank [=MacLean=]. This is especially true if you note her use of a wedding to cover her attack explictly explicitly sets up Lucy to be sexually assaulted and murdered by deception despite being the daughter of her close friend.]]

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** Just how good is [[spoiler:Moldaver]] anyway? [[spoiler:NCR's survivors think of her as a BigGood but she leads a bunch of Raiders to Vault 33 and they end up slaughtering plenty of innocents. Furthermore, her plan will result in the sexual assault and death of her supposed friend's daughter (and also murder her son).]] Did she have a last minute change of heart or was this a sign of how much she despised [[spoiler:Hank?]]

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** Just how good is [[spoiler:Moldaver]] anyway? [[spoiler:NCR's survivors think of her as a BigGood but she leads a bunch of Raiders to Vault 33 and they end up slaughtering plenty of innocents. Furthermore, her plan will result in the sexual assault and death of her supposed friend's daughter (and also the murder her son).]] Did she have a last minute last-minute change of heart heart, or was this a sign of how much she despised [[spoiler:Hank?]][[spoiler:Hank?]]
*** [[spoiler:[[PayEvilUntoEvil Was the slaughter of Vault 33 her idea as revenge for Shady Sands]], or [[NecessaryEvil was it the only way she could get the Raiders involved in her plan to kidnap Hank and she had no other way to control them]]? While she didn't shed any tears about the massacre, by its end, she had the vault-dwellers dead-to-rights and could've easily killed all of them, but she chose to simply detonate a bomb (with plenty of time to duck and cover) to seal them in. Was it CruelMercy–leaving them to cope with a similar trauma of Shady Sands–or did enough Raiders die or be captured for them to listen to her?]]
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** Is Titus a DirtyCoward and a sign the Brotherhood is unworthy of respect or is his distaste for Maximus more personal? After all, Maximus is a replacement for his presumably chosen squire that is believed to have deliberately injured them to get his position. The fact Maximus is an adopted war orphan from Shady Sands versus one of the Brotherhood's tradition bloodlines may also play a part in this distaste. Was he actually sending Maximus of to die in the cave or did he know that the Enclave scientist was harmless and was just giving him a SecretTestOfCharacter? Was his statement about getting him executed also just the pain talking or sincere?

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** Is Titus a DirtyCoward and a sign the Brotherhood is unworthy of respect or is his distaste for Maximus more personal? After all, Maximus is a replacement for his presumably chosen squire that is believed to have deliberately injured them to get his position. The fact Maximus is an adopted war orphan from Shady Sands versus one of the Brotherhood's tradition bloodlines may also play a part in this distaste. Was he actually sending Maximus of off to die in the cave or did he know that the Enclave scientist was harmless and was just giving him a SecretTestOfCharacter? Was his statement about getting him executed also just the pain talking or sincere?
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** Is Titus a DirtyCoward and a sign the Brotherhood is unworthy of respect or is his distaste for Maximus more personal? After all, Maximus is a replacement for his presumably chosen squire that is believed to have deliberately injured them to get his position. The fact Maximus is an adopted war orphan from Shady Sands versus one of the Brotherhood's tradition bloodlines may also play a part in this distaste. Was he actually sending Maximus oft to die in the cave or did he know that the Enclave scientist was harmless and was just giving him a SecretTestOfCharacter? Was his statement about getting him executed also just the pain talking or sincere?

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** Is Titus a DirtyCoward and a sign the Brotherhood is unworthy of respect or is his distaste for Maximus more personal? After all, Maximus is a replacement for his presumably chosen squire that is believed to have deliberately injured them to get his position. The fact Maximus is an adopted war orphan from Shady Sands versus one of the Brotherhood's tradition bloodlines may also play a part in this distaste. Was he actually sending Maximus oft of to die in the cave or did he know that the Enclave scientist was harmless and was just giving him a SecretTestOfCharacter? Was his statement about getting him executed also just the pain talking or sincere?
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** Maximus, despite his selfish streak, is abused frequently as a Brotherhood aspirant, with his opening scene showing him getting beaten up. After his only friend is sabotaged by an unknown attacker, all of the leadership assumes Maximus did it, nearly getting him executed. Then, when he does get a chance to squire, his Knight is an absolute asshole who takes every opportunity to abuse him, even trying to give him radiation poisoning at one point. His Knight then blames him for a Yao Gai attack that wasn't his fault, and threatens his life while also demanding a stimpak. It's really no wonder Maxiumus lets the Knight die and then takes his power armor.

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** Maximus, despite Even before we know [[DarkAndTroubledPast his selfish streak, backstory]], Maximus is abused frequently as a Brotherhood aspirant, with his opening scene showing him getting beaten up. After his only friend is sabotaged by an unknown attacker, all of the leadership assumes Maximus did it, nearly getting him executed. Then, when he does get a chance to squire, his Knight is an absolute asshole who takes every opportunity to abuse him, even trying to give him radiation poisoning at one point. His Knight then blames him for a Yao Gai attack that wasn't his fault, and threatens his life while also demanding a stimpak. It's really no wonder Maxiumus lets the Knight die and then takes his power armor.
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* MoralEventHorizon: Thaddeus loses all audience sympathy when he [[spoiler:locks Dogmeat in a Nuka-Cola cooler and leaves her to die despite her doing little more than inconveniencing him.]]
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* JerkassWoobie: Cooper Howard, or The Ghoul, lost his acting career working with Vault-Tec then learned the AwfulTruth that his wife came up with the idea to turn the Vaults into test chambers for whatever Vault-Tec's shareholders wanted. He was then outside the Vaults when the bombs went off, became a Ghoul at some point in time, and lost his family while witnessing the fall of civilization firsthand. These experiences have left him a very cynical and changed man willing to mow down anything and anyone in his way and [[spoiler:sell Lucy to organ harvesters]] in desperation.
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** Chet. The poor guy was born into a small community where the only person he could have a relationship with is his own cousin, and as a result of them experimenting, he fell in love with her. He then has to watch her get married to a stranger, watches multiple friends get murdered, and then loses his job for helping Lucy leave the Vault. He even remarks at one point that he "doesn't know who he is anymore", showing a clear identity crisis. In any other story, this guy would be ''really'' weird for loving Lucy, but under the circumstances Chet was put in, it's downright tragic.


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** Chet. The poor guy was born into a small community where the only person he could have a relationship with is his own cousin, and as a result of them experimenting, he fell in love with her. He then has to watch her get married to a stranger, watches multiple friends get murdered, and then loses his job for helping Lucy leave the Vault. He even remarks at one point that he "doesn't know who he is anymore", showing a clear identity crisis. He then gets cajoled into a quasi-marriage with Stephanie, [[ReplacementGoldfish where she essentially pretends he's a different man, her original husband Burt]]. In any other story, this guy would be ''really'' weird for loving Lucy, but under the circumstances Chet was put in, it's downright tragic.

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** Hank's decision to [[spoiler: nuke Shady Sands and destroy the NCR government]] is one that is of questionable motivation. [[spoiler: Did he do it because Vault-Tec ordered him to destroy a thriving government, because he was jealous of his wife's new companion that was taking his kids, or both?]]
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** Is Titus a DirtyCoward and a sign the Brotherhood is unworthy of respect or is his distaste for Maximus more personal? After all, Maximus is a replacement for his presumably chosen squire that is believed to have deliberately injured them to get his position. The fact Maximus is an adopted war orphan from Shady Sands versus one of the Brotherhood's tradition bloodlines may also play a part in this distaste.

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** Is Titus a DirtyCoward and a sign the Brotherhood is unworthy of respect or is his distaste for Maximus more personal? After all, Maximus is a replacement for his presumably chosen squire that is believed to have deliberately injured them to get his position. The fact Maximus is an adopted war orphan from Shady Sands versus one of the Brotherhood's tradition bloodlines may also play a part in this distaste. Was he actually sending Maximus oft to die in the cave or did he know that the Enclave scientist was harmless and was just giving him a SecretTestOfCharacter? Was his statement about getting him executed also just the pain talking or sincere?

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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Just how good is [[spoiler:Moldaver]] anyway? [[spoiler:NCR's survivors think of her as a BigGood but she leads a bunch of Raiders to Vault 33 and they end up slaughtering plenty of innocents. Furthermore, her plan will result in the sexual assault and death of her supposed friend's daughter (and also murder her son).]] Did she have a last minute change of heart or was this a sign of how much she despised [[spoiler:Hank?]]

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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: AlternativeCharacterInterpretation:
** Is Titus a DirtyCoward and a sign the Brotherhood is unworthy of respect or is his distaste for Maximus more personal? After all, Maximus is a replacement for his presumably chosen squire that is believed to have deliberately injured them to get his position. The fact Maximus is an adopted war orphan from Shady Sands versus one of the Brotherhood's tradition bloodlines may also play a part in this distaste.
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Just how good is [[spoiler:Moldaver]] anyway? [[spoiler:NCR's survivors think of her as a BigGood but she leads a bunch of Raiders to Vault 33 and they end up slaughtering plenty of innocents. Furthermore, her plan will result in the sexual assault and death of her supposed friend's daughter (and also murder her son).]] Did she have a last minute change of heart or was this a sign of how much she despised [[spoiler:Hank?]]
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* AngstAversion: Many within the ''VideoGame/FalloutNewVegas'' fandom reacted negatively to [[spoiler:the impact this series has had on a number of factions within the game; the NCR has been left in an unclear but worse state years after their last appearance, with Shady Sands being stated to have fallen in 2277 (with some accusations that it has decanonized ''New Vegas'' entirely as it was the same year that the First Battle for Hoover Dam took place, with Shady Sands and the NCR still being major players four years later which losing a capital city would certainly upend). Also, Mr. House was revealed to be one of the participants at Vault-Tec's meeting about the Vaults and instigating the Great War, while TheStinger of the finale shows that New Vegas itself has been abandoned or at least left in a ruined state of its own over a decade later, making any action the Courier took to help Vegas and the factions a case of AllForNothing. Some fans even went so far as to accuse Bethesda of [[ArmedWithCanon writing this into the series]] out of ''spite'', given ''New Vegas'''s CultClassic status and enduring popularity in comparison to the ''Fallout'' games that Bethesda made on their own]].

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* AngstAversion: Many within the ''VideoGame/FalloutNewVegas'' fandom reacted negatively to [[spoiler:the impact this series has had on a number of factions within the game; the NCR has been left in an unclear but worse state years after their last appearance, with Shady Sands being stated to have fallen in 2277 (with some accusations that it has decanonized ''New Vegas'' entirely as it was the same year that the First Battle for Hoover Dam took place, with Shady Sands and the NCR still being major players four years later which losing a capital city would certainly upend). Also, Mr. House was revealed to be one of the participants at Vault-Tec's meeting about the Vaults and instigating the Great War, while TheStinger of the finale shows that New Vegas itself has been abandoned or at least left in a ruined state of its own over a decade later, making any action the Courier took to help Vegas and the factions a case of AllForNothing. Some fans even went so far as to accuse Bethesda of [[ArmedWithCanon writing this into the series]] out of ''spite'', given ''New Vegas'''s as part of a long-standing and repeatedly debunked conspiracy theory that Bethesda is bitter at the CultClassic status and enduring popularity in comparison to the ''Fallout'' games that Bethesda made on their own]].of ''New Vegas.'']].

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* AndYouThoughtItWouldFail: Leading up to the premiere there was much grumbling and speculation over the quality of the series, with diehard fans worried about it being a similarly lackluster and divisive adaptation like the ''Halo'' TV series. After the premiere was wildly well received by audiences and critics alike, the same fans were pleasantly surprised (though some had minor gripes concerning the lore aspects).

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* AndYouThoughtItWouldFail: Leading up to the premiere there was much grumbling and speculation over the quality of the series, with diehard fans worried about it being a similarly lackluster and divisive adaptation like the ''Halo'' TV series. After the premiere was wildly well received by audiences and critics alike, the same fans were pleasantly surprised (though some had minor gripes issues concerning the lore aspects).



* ColbertBump: Amazon giving away copies of ''VideoGame/Fallout76'' to Amazon Prime members plus the show [[https://www.reddit.com/r/Fallout/comments/1c4123c/fallout_76_has_just_reached_its_new_alltime_peak/ led to the show getting its highest player rating on Steam]].
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* ColbertBump: Amazon giving away copies of ''VideoGame/Fallout76'' to Amazon Prime members plus the show [[https://www.reddit.com/r/Fallout/comments/1c4123c/fallout_76_has_just_reached_its_new_alltime_peak/ led to the show getting its highest player rating on Steam]].
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* AndYouThoughtItWouldFail: Leading up to the premiere there was much grumbling and speculation over the quality of the series, with diehard fans worried about it being a similarly lackluster and divisive adaptation like Halo's TV series. After the premiere was wildly well received by audiences and critics alike, the same fans were pleasantly surprised (though some had minor gripes concerning the lore aspects).

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* AndYouThoughtItWouldFail: Leading up to the premiere there was much grumbling and speculation over the quality of the series, with diehard fans worried about it being a similarly lackluster and divisive adaptation like Halo's the ''Halo'' TV series. After the premiere was wildly well received by audiences and critics alike, the same fans were pleasantly surprised (though some had minor gripes concerning the lore aspects).

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