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* AndYouThoughtItWouldFail: Leading up to the premier there was much grumbling and speculation over the quality of the series, with diehard fans worried about it being a similarly lackluster and divisive adaptation like Halo's TV series. After the premier was wildly well recieved by audiences and critics alike the former were pleasantly surprised (though some had minor gripes concerning the lore aspects).

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* AndYouThoughtItWouldFail: Leading up to the premier premiere there was much grumbling and speculation over the quality of the series, with diehard fans worried about it being a similarly lackluster and divisive adaptation like Halo's TV series. After the premier premiere was wildly well recieved received by audiences and critics alike alike, the former same fans were pleasantly surprised (though some had minor gripes concerning the lore aspects).
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* AndYouThoughtItWouldFail: Leading up to the premier there was much grumbling and speculation over the quality of the series, with diehard fans worried about it being a similarly lackluster and divisive adaptation like Halo's tv series, and a rather loud minority of culture war youtubers claiming it will be a "woke failure" criticizing it's female and black protagonists alongside supporting character Dane being nonbinary being the show "catering for diversity points and not fans." After the premier was wildly well recieved by audiences and critics alike the former were pleasantly surprised (though some had minor gripes concerning the lore aspects) and the latter were forced to very quietly slink away and keep their mouths shut when their predictions (predicably) didn't match reality.

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* AndYouThoughtItWouldFail: Leading up to the premier there was much grumbling and speculation over the quality of the series, with diehard fans worried about it being a similarly lackluster and divisive adaptation like Halo's tv series, and a rather loud minority of culture war youtubers claiming it will be a "woke failure" criticizing it's female and black protagonists alongside supporting character Dane being nonbinary being the show "catering for diversity points and not fans." TV series. After the premier was wildly well recieved by audiences and critics alike the former were pleasantly surprised (though some had minor gripes concerning the lore aspects) and the latter were forced to very quietly slink away and keep their mouths shut when their predictions (predicably) didn't match reality.aspects).
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* AngstAversion: Many within the ''VideoGame/FalloutNewVegas'' fandom reacted negatively to [[spoiler:the impact this series has had on a number of factions within the game; the NCR has been left in an unclear but worse state years after their last appearance, with Shady Sands being stated to have fallen in 2277 (with some accusations that it has decanonized ''New Vegas'' entirely as it was the same year that the First Battle for Hoover Dam took place, with Shady Sands and the NCR still being major players four years later which losing a capital city would certainly upend). Also, Mr. House was revealed to be one of the participants at Vault-Tec's meeting about the Vaults and instigating the Great War, while TheStinger of the finale shows that New Vegas itself has been abandoned or at least left in a ruined state of its own over a decade later, making any action the Courier took to help Vegas and the factions a case of AllForNothing. Some fans even went so far as to accuse Bethesda of writing this into the series out of ''spite'', given ''New Vegas'''s CultClassic status and enduring popularity in comparison to the ''Fallout'' games that Bethesda made on their own]].

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* AngstAversion: Many within the ''VideoGame/FalloutNewVegas'' fandom reacted negatively to [[spoiler:the impact this series has had on a number of factions within the game; the NCR has been left in an unclear but worse state years after their last appearance, with Shady Sands being stated to have fallen in 2277 (with some accusations that it has decanonized ''New Vegas'' entirely as it was the same year that the First Battle for Hoover Dam took place, with Shady Sands and the NCR still being major players four years later which losing a capital city would certainly upend). Also, Mr. House was revealed to be one of the participants at Vault-Tec's meeting about the Vaults and instigating the Great War, while TheStinger of the finale shows that New Vegas itself has been abandoned or at least left in a ruined state of its own over a decade later, making any action the Courier took to help Vegas and the factions a case of AllForNothing. Some fans even went so far as to accuse Bethesda of [[ArmedWithCanon writing this into the series series]] out of ''spite'', given ''New Vegas'''s CultClassic status and enduring popularity in comparison to the ''Fallout'' games that Bethesda made on their own]].
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* AndYouThoughtItWouldFail: Leading up to the premier there was much grumbling and speculation over the quality of the series, with diehard fans worried about it being a similarly lackluster and divisive adaptation like Halo's tv series, and a rather loud minority of culture war youtubers claiming it will be a "woke failure" criticizing it's female and black protagonists alongside supporting character Dane being nonbinary being the show "catering for diversity points and not fans." After the premier was wildly well recieved by audiences and critics alike the former were pleasantly surprised (though some had minor gripes concerning the lore aspects) and the former were forced to very quietly slink away and keep their mouths shut when their predictions (predicably) didn't match reality.

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* AndYouThoughtItWouldFail: Leading up to the premier there was much grumbling and speculation over the quality of the series, with diehard fans worried about it being a similarly lackluster and divisive adaptation like Halo's tv series, and a rather loud minority of culture war youtubers claiming it will be a "woke failure" criticizing it's female and black protagonists alongside supporting character Dane being nonbinary being the show "catering for diversity points and not fans." After the premier was wildly well recieved by audiences and critics alike the former were pleasantly surprised (though some had minor gripes concerning the lore aspects) and the former latter were forced to very quietly slink away and keep their mouths shut when their predictions (predicably) didn't match reality.
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* AndYouThoughtItWouldFail: Leading up to the premier there was much grumbling and speculation over the quality of the series, with diehard fans worried about it being a similarly lackluster and divisive adaptation like Halo's tv series, and a rather loud minority of culture war youtubers claiming it will be a "woke failure" criticizing it's female and black protagonists alongside supporting character Dane being nonbinary being the show "catering for diversity points and not fans." After the premier was wildly well recieved by audiences and critics alike the former were pleasantly surprised (though some had minor gripes concerning the lore aspects) and the former were forced to very quietly slink away and keep their mouths shut when their predictions (predicably) didn't match reality.
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* UnexpectedCharacter: The Season 1 finale includes a scene in the pre-War era with Vault-Tec hosting a meeting with [[spoilers:the leaders of various high-powered corporations in America, which features not only Frederick Sinclair as the rep for Big MT; Leon Von Felden, the creator of the FEV, as rep for West-Tek, and Julia Masters, a higher-up from REPCONN mentioned in ''New Vegas'']] but perhaps more notably, [[spoiler:Robert House himself as rep for [=RobCo=]]].

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* UnexpectedCharacter: The Season 1 finale includes a scene in the pre-War era with Vault-Tec hosting a meeting with [[spoilers:the [[spoiler:the leaders of various high-powered corporations in America, which features not only Frederick Sinclair as the rep for Big MT; Leon Von Felden, the creator of the FEV, as rep for West-Tek, and Julia Masters, a higher-up from REPCONN mentioned in ''New Vegas'']] but perhaps more notably, [[spoiler:Robert House himself as rep for [=RobCo=]]].
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* UnexpectedCharacter: The Season 1 finale includes a scene in the pre-War era with Vault-Tec hosting a meeting with [[spoilers: the leaders of various high-powered corporations in America, which features not only Frederick Sinclair as the rep for Big MT; Leon Von Felden, the creator of the FEV, as rep for West-Tek, and Julia Masters, a higher-up from REPCONN mentioned in ''New Vegas'']] but perhaps more notably, [[spoiler:Robert House himself as rep for [=RobCo=]]].

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* UnexpectedCharacter: The Season 1 finale includes a scene in the pre-War era with Vault-Tec hosting a meeting with [[spoilers: the [[spoilers:the leaders of various high-powered corporations in America, which features not only Frederick Sinclair as the rep for Big MT; Leon Von Felden, the creator of the FEV, as rep for West-Tek, and Julia Masters, a higher-up from REPCONN mentioned in ''New Vegas'']] but perhaps more notably, [[spoiler:Robert House himself as rep for [=RobCo=]]].
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* UnexpectedCharacter: The penultimate episode of Season 1 includes a scene in the pre-War era with Vault-Tec hosting a meeting with the leaders of various high-powered corporations in America, which features not only [[spoiler:Frederick Sinclair as the rep for Big MT; Leon Von Felden, the creator of the FEV, as rep for West-Tek, and Julia Masters, a higher-up from REPCONN mentioned in ''New Vegas'']] but perhaps more notably, [[spoiler:Robert House himself as rep for [=RobCo=]]].

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* UnexpectedCharacter: The penultimate episode of Season 1 finale includes a scene in the pre-War era with Vault-Tec hosting a meeting with [[spoilers: the leaders of various high-powered corporations in America, which features not only [[spoiler:Frederick Frederick Sinclair as the rep for Big MT; Leon Von Felden, the creator of the FEV, as rep for West-Tek, and Julia Masters, a higher-up from REPCONN mentioned in ''New Vegas'']] but perhaps more notably, [[spoiler:Robert House himself as rep for [=RobCo=]]].
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* TearJerker: Both Lucy and the Ghoul have similar breakdowns to revelations revealed in "The Beginning":
** For Lucy, [[spoiler:she learns from Moldaver that her father was complicit in the deaths of tens of thousands of innocents in Shady Sands for no other reason than petty jealousy that his wife escaped to a prosperous civilization and took Lucy with her. Hank doesn't even deny it after the jig is up, even saying that her mother ''deserved to die'' for taking Lucy away from him. Lucy spends most of the finale looking as if she's about to burst into tears and can barely explain herself to Maximus when he comes rushing in]].
** For the Ghoul, [[spoiler:back when he was Cooper Howard, he listens in on a meeting between Vault-Tec and numerous other business conglomerates as they start divvying up the post-war world for their own gain. He even hears his beloved wife advocating for nuclear genocide against the world in order to speed up the process of Vault-Tec taking over, when he still hoped she could be a moderate voice among the executives. He's left barely functioning when Betty introduces Cooper to Hank]].

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* TheWoobie: Lucy has it rough. Her father got kidnapped, and after she got out of her vault to rescue him, she ends up learning how [[NaiveNewcomer very unprepared she was for how rough life is within the Wasteland.]] Not to mention that [[spoiler:she finds out in the finale that her father was EvilAllAlong, and pretty much someone she shouldn't tried to save in the first place.]]

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Lucy has it rough. Her father got kidnapped, and after she got out of her vault to rescue him, she ends up learning how [[NaiveNewcomer very unprepared she was for how rough life is within the Wasteland.]] Not to mention that [[spoiler:she finds out in the finale that her father was EvilAllAlong, and pretty much someone she shouldn't tried to save in the first place.]]
** Maximus, despite his selfish streak, is abused frequently as a Brotherhood aspirant, with his opening scene showing him getting beaten up. After his only friend is sabotaged by an unknown attacker, all of the leadership assumes Maximus did it, nearly getting him executed. Then, when he does get a chance to squire, his Knight is an absolute asshole who takes every opportunity to abuse him, even trying to give him radiation poisoning at one point. His Knight then blames him for a Yao Gai attack that wasn't his fault, and threatens his life while also demanding a stimpak. It's really no wonder Maxiumus lets the Knight die and then takes his power armor.
** Chet. The poor guy was born into a small community where the only person he could have a relationship with is his own cousin, and as a result of them experimenting, he fell in love with her. He then has to watch her get married to a stranger, watches multiple friends get murdered, and then loses his job for helping Lucy leave the Vault. He even remarks at one point that he "doesn't know who he is anymore", showing a clear identity crisis. In any other story, this guy would be ''really'' weird for loving Lucy, but under the circumstances Chet was put in, it's downright tragic.

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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Just how good is [[spoiler:Moldaver]] anyway? [[spoiler:NCR's survivors think of her as a BigGood but she leads a bunch of Raiders to Vault 33 and carries out a RapePillageBurn that kills a lot of innocents. Furthermore, her plan will result in the sexual assault and death of her supposed friend's daughter (and also murder her son).]] Did she have a last minute change of heart or was this a sign of how much she despised [[spoiler:Hank?]]

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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Just how good is [[spoiler:Moldaver]] anyway? [[spoiler:NCR's survivors think of her as a BigGood but she leads a bunch of Raiders to Vault 33 and carries out a RapePillageBurn that kills a lot they end up slaughtering plenty of innocents. Furthermore, her plan will result in the sexual assault and death of her supposed friend's daughter (and also murder her son).]] Did she have a last minute change of heart or was this a sign of how much she despised [[spoiler:Hank?]]
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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: [[spoiler: For a lot of viewers, Lee Moldaver's reveal as GoodAllAlong doesn't remotely justify her actions in the first episode and she has crossed the MoralEventHorizon every bit as much as Hank MacLean. This is especially true if you note her use of a wedding to cover her attack explictly sets up Lucy to be sexually assaulted and murdered by deception despite being the daughter of her close friend.]]

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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: [[spoiler: For a lot of viewers, Lee Moldaver's reveal as GoodAllAlong doesn't remotely justify her actions in the first episode and she has crossed the MoralEventHorizon every bit as much as Hank MacLean.[=MacLean=]. This is especially true if you note her use of a wedding to cover her attack explictly sets up Lucy to be sexually assaulted and murdered by deception despite being the daughter of her close friend.]]

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* TheWoobie: Lucy has it rough. Her father got kidnapped, and after she got out of her vault to rescue him, she ends up learning how [[NaiveNewcomer very unprepared she was for how rough life is within the Wasteland.]] Not to mention that [[spoiler:she finds out in the finale that her father was EvilAllAlong, and pretty much someone she shouldn't tried to save in the first place.]]




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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: [[spoiler: For a lot of viewers, Lee Moldaver's reveal as GoodAllAlong doesn't remotely justify her actions in the first episode and she has crossed the MoralEventHorizon every bit as much as Hank MacLean. This is especially true if you note her use of a wedding to cover her attack explictly sets up Lucy to be sexually assaulted and murdered by deception despite being the daughter of her close friend.]]
* TheWoobie: Lucy has it rough. Her father got kidnapped, and after she got out of her vault to rescue him, she ends up learning how [[NaiveNewcomer very unprepared she was for how rough life is within the Wasteland.]] Not to mention that [[spoiler:she finds out in the finale that her father was EvilAllAlong, and pretty much someone she shouldn't tried to save in the first place.]]
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General clarification on work content. Dialogue from the game indicated that Shady Sands was still a major power by that point, with mentions of politicians from a couple NP Cs.


* AngstAversion: Many within the ''VideoGame/FalloutNewVegas'' fandom reacted negatively to [[spoiler:the impact this series has had on a number of factions within the game; the NCR has been left in an unclear but worse state years after their last appearance, with Shady Sands being stated to have fallen in 2277 (with some accusations that it has decanonized ''New Vegas'' entirely as the NCR was still a major player four years later which losing a capital city would certainly upend). Also, Mr. House was revealed to be one of the participants at Vault-Tec's meeting about the Vaults and instigating the Great War, while TheStinger of the finale shows that New Vegas itself has been abandoned or at least left in a ruined state of its own over a decade later, making any action the Courier took to help Vegas and the factions a case of AllForNothing. Some fans even went so far as to accuse Bethesda of writing this into the series out of ''spite'', given ''New Vegas'''s CultClassic status and enduring popularity in comparison to the ''Fallout'' games that Bethesda made on their own]].

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* AngstAversion: Many within the ''VideoGame/FalloutNewVegas'' fandom reacted negatively to [[spoiler:the impact this series has had on a number of factions within the game; the NCR has been left in an unclear but worse state years after their last appearance, with Shady Sands being stated to have fallen in 2277 (with some accusations that it has decanonized ''New Vegas'' entirely as it was the same year that the First Battle for Hoover Dam took place, with Shady Sands and the NCR was still a being major player players four years later which losing a capital city would certainly upend). Also, Mr. House was revealed to be one of the participants at Vault-Tec's meeting about the Vaults and instigating the Great War, while TheStinger of the finale shows that New Vegas itself has been abandoned or at least left in a ruined state of its own over a decade later, making any action the Courier took to help Vegas and the factions a case of AllForNothing. Some fans even went so far as to accuse Bethesda of writing this into the series out of ''spite'', given ''New Vegas'''s CultClassic status and enduring popularity in comparison to the ''Fallout'' games that Bethesda made on their own]].
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* AngstAversion: Many within the ''VideoGame/FalloutNewVegas'' fandom reacted negatively to [[spoiler:the impact this series has had on a number of factions within the game; the NCR has been left in an unclear but worse state years after their last appearance, with Shady Sands being stated to have fallen in 2277 (with some accusations that it has decanonized ''New Vegas'' entirely as the NCR was still a major player four years later which losing a capital city would certainly upend). Also, Mr. House was revealed to be one of the participants at Vault-Tec's meeting about the Vaults and instigating the Great War, while TheStinger of the finale shows that New Vegas itself has been abandoned or at least left in a ruined state of its own over a decade later, making any action the Courier took to help Vegas and the factions a case of AllForNothing .]]

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* AngstAversion: Many within the ''VideoGame/FalloutNewVegas'' fandom reacted negatively to [[spoiler:the impact this series has had on a number of factions within the game; the NCR has been left in an unclear but worse state years after their last appearance, with Shady Sands being stated to have fallen in 2277 (with some accusations that it has decanonized ''New Vegas'' entirely as the NCR was still a major player four years later which losing a capital city would certainly upend). Also, Mr. House was revealed to be one of the participants at Vault-Tec's meeting about the Vaults and instigating the Great War, while TheStinger of the finale shows that New Vegas itself has been abandoned or at least left in a ruined state of its own over a decade later, making any action the Courier took to help Vegas and the factions a case of AllForNothing .]]AllForNothing. Some fans even went so far as to accuse Bethesda of writing this into the series out of ''spite'', given ''New Vegas'''s CultClassic status and enduring popularity in comparison to the ''Fallout'' games that Bethesda made on their own]].
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** For the Ghoul, [[spoiler:back when he was Cooper Howard, he listens in on a meeting between Vault-Tec and numerous other business conglomerates as they start divvying up the post-war world for their own gain. He even hears his beloved wife advocating for nuclear genocide against the world in order to speed up the process of Vault-Tec taking over, when he still hoped she could be a moderate voice among the executives. He's left barely functioning when she exits the meeting and introduces Cooper to Hank]].

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** For the Ghoul, [[spoiler:back when he was Cooper Howard, he listens in on a meeting between Vault-Tec and numerous other business conglomerates as they start divvying up the post-war world for their own gain. He even hears his beloved wife advocating for nuclear genocide against the world in order to speed up the process of Vault-Tec taking over, when he still hoped she could be a moderate voice among the executives. He's left barely functioning when she exits the meeting and Betty introduces Cooper to Hank]].
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Clarification as the nuke was dropped an undisclosed amount of time after 2277.


* AngstAversion: Many within the ''VideoGame/FalloutNewVegas'' fandom reacted negatively to [[spoiler:the impact this series has had on a number of factions within the game; the NCR has been left in an unclear but worse state years after their last appearance, with Shady Sands having been nuked after 2277 (with some accusations that it has decanonized ''New Vegas'' entirely as the NCR was still a major player four years later which losing a capital city would certainly upend). Also, Mr. House was revealed to be one of the participants at Vault-Tec's meeting about the Vaults and instigating the Great War, while TheStinger of the finale shows that New Vegas itself has been abandoned or at least left in a ruined state of its own over a decade later, making any action the Courier took to help Vegas and the factions a case of AllForNothing .]]

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* AngstAversion: Many within the ''VideoGame/FalloutNewVegas'' fandom reacted negatively to [[spoiler:the impact this series has had on a number of factions within the game; the NCR has been left in an unclear but worse state years after their last appearance, with Shady Sands having been nuked after being stated to have fallen in 2277 (with some accusations that it has decanonized ''New Vegas'' entirely as the NCR was still a major player four years later which losing a capital city would certainly upend). Also, Mr. House was revealed to be one of the participants at Vault-Tec's meeting about the Vaults and instigating the Great War, while TheStinger of the finale shows that New Vegas itself has been abandoned or at least left in a ruined state of its own over a decade later, making any action the Courier took to help Vegas and the factions a case of AllForNothing .]]
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* TearJerker: Both Lucy and the Ghoul have similar breakdowns to revelations revealed in "The Beginning":
** For Lucy, [[spoiler:she learns from Moldaver that her father was complicit in the deaths of tens of thousands of innocents in Shady Sands for no other reason than petty jealousy that his wife escaped to a prosperous civilization and took Lucy with her. Hank doesn't even deny it after the jig is up, even saying that her mother ''deserved to die'' for taking Lucy away from him. Lucy spends most of the finale looking as if she's about to burst into tears and can barely explain herself to Maximus when he comes rushing in]].
** For the Ghoul, [[spoiler:back when he was Cooper Howard, he listens in on a meeting between Vault-Tec and numerous other business conglomerates as they start divvying up the post-war world for their own gain. He even hears his beloved wife advocating for nuclear genocide against the world in order to speed up the process of Vault-Tec taking over, when he still hoped she could be a moderate voice among the executives. He's left barely functioning when she exits the meeting and introduces Cooper to Hank]].
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Just how good is [[spoiler: Moldaver]] anyway? [[spoiler: NCR's survivors think of her as a BigGood but she leads a bunch of Raiders to Vault 33 and carries out a RapePillageBurn that kills a lot of innocents. Furthermore, her plan will result in the sexual assault and death of her supposed friend's daughter (and also murder her son).]] Did she have a last minute change of heart or was this a sign of how much she despised [[spoiler: Hank?]]

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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Just how good is [[spoiler: Moldaver]] [[spoiler:Moldaver]] anyway? [[spoiler: NCR's [[spoiler:NCR's survivors think of her as a BigGood but she leads a bunch of Raiders to Vault 33 and carries out a RapePillageBurn that kills a lot of innocents. Furthermore, her plan will result in the sexual assault and death of her supposed friend's daughter (and also murder her son).]] Did she have a last minute change of heart or was this a sign of how much she despised [[spoiler: Hank?]][[spoiler:Hank?]]



* HesJustHiding: [[spoiler: While the New California Republic as a whole is gone, some fans like to think that its more likable soldiers and citizens from ''New Vegas'' are still alive, just in hiding. [[WordOfGod The writer of the games]] would come out and confirm that the NCR is ''definitely'' on the downtrodden, but there are still remnants of it scattered throughout California instead of extinct.]]

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* HesJustHiding: [[spoiler: While [[spoiler:While the New California Republic as a whole is gone, some fans like to think that its more likable soldiers and citizens from ''New Vegas'' are still alive, just in hiding. [[WordOfGod The writer of the games]] would come out and confirm that the NCR is ''definitely'' on the downtrodden, but there are still remnants of it scattered throughout California instead of extinct.]]



* LesYay: Between Moldaver and [[spoiler:Lucy's mom Rose]]. Their relationship is not explicitly romantic but Moldaver's first remark [[spoiler: to Lucy is mentioning how much she looks like her mother. She keeps Rose's feral ghoul form alive and eats dinner with it. When she's fatally wounded, her last act is to sit next to Rose's corpse and hold her hand]].

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* LesYay: Between Moldaver and [[spoiler:Lucy's mom Rose]]. Their relationship is not explicitly romantic but Moldaver's first remark [[spoiler: to [[spoiler:to Lucy is mentioning how much she looks like her mother. She keeps Rose's feral ghoul form alive and eats dinner with it. When she's fatally wounded, her last act is to sit next to Rose's corpse and hold her hand]].



** [[spoiler: The revelation that Vault-Tec was the mastermind behind the Great War was originally supposed to be used for the canceled ''Fallout'' movie treatment]].
** [[spoiler: The NCR being destroyed was an idea originally tossed around by Creator/ChrisAvellone, as he hated how the ''Fallout'' universe began to resemble a modern civilization instead of the post-apocalyptic wasteland presented in ''VideoGame/Fallout1''. The option to nuke the NCR, Caesar's Legion, or both in ''Lonesome Road'' is an expression of this desire. ''Van Buren'' was also slated to have an ending where the player could nuke the wasteland back into oblivion.]]

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** [[spoiler: The [[spoiler:The revelation that Vault-Tec was the mastermind behind the Great War was originally supposed to be used for the canceled ''Fallout'' movie treatment]].
** [[spoiler: The [[spoiler:The NCR being destroyed was an idea originally tossed around by Creator/ChrisAvellone, as he hated how the ''Fallout'' universe began to resemble a modern civilization instead of the post-apocalyptic wasteland presented in ''VideoGame/Fallout1''. The option to nuke the NCR, Caesar's Legion, or both in ''Lonesome Road'' is an expression of this desire. ''Van Buren'' was also slated to have an ending where the player could nuke the wasteland back into oblivion.]]



** [[spoiler: With the ending revealing that Vault-Tec was the mastermind behind the Great War, this is the closest we will get to seeing the cancelled ''Fallout'' movie pitch be shown on-screen]].
** [[spoiler: With the last shot of New Vegas seemingly lying in ruins, with its gates blown open and signs of combat, this may be as close as ''VideoGame/FalloutDust'' gets to being made canon.]]

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** [[spoiler: With [[spoiler:With the ending revealing that Vault-Tec was the mastermind behind the Great War, this is the closest we will get to seeing the cancelled ''Fallout'' movie pitch be shown on-screen]].
** [[spoiler: With [[spoiler:With the last shot of New Vegas seemingly lying in ruins, with its gates blown open and signs of combat, this may be as close as ''VideoGame/FalloutDust'' gets to being made canon.]]
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Just how good is [[spoiler: Moldaver]] anyway? [[spoiler: NCR's survivors think of her as a BigGood but she leads a bunch of Raiders to Vault 33 and carries out a RapePillageBurn that kills a lot of innocents. Furthermore, her plan will result in the sexual assault and death of her supposed friend's daughter (and also so for the latter).]] Did she have a last minute change of heart or was this a sign of how much she despised [[spoiler: Hank?]]

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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Just how good is [[spoiler: Moldaver]] anyway? [[spoiler: NCR's survivors think of her as a BigGood but she leads a bunch of Raiders to Vault 33 and carries out a RapePillageBurn that kills a lot of innocents. Furthermore, her plan will result in the sexual assault and death of her supposed friend's daughter (and also so for the latter).murder her son).]] Did she have a last minute change of heart or was this a sign of how much she despised [[spoiler: Hank?]]
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: Just how good is [[spoiler: Moldaver]] anyway? [[spoiler: NCR's survivors think of her as a BigGood but she leads a bunch of Raiders to Vault 33 and carries out a RapePillageBurn that kills a lot of innocents. Furthermore, her plan will result in the sexual assault and death of her supposed friend's daughter (and also so for the latter).]] Did she have a last minute change of heart or was this a sign of how much she despised [[spoiler: Hank?]]

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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Just how good is [[spoiler: Moldaver]] anyway? [[spoiler: NCR's survivors think of her as a BigGood but she leads a bunch of Raiders to Vault 33 and carries out a RapePillageBurn that kills a lot of innocents. Furthermore, her plan will result in the sexual assault and death of her supposed friend's daughter (and also so for the latter).]] Did she have a last minute change of heart or was this a sign of how much she despised [[spoiler: Hank?]]
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* HesJustHiding: [[spoiler: While the New California Republic as a whole is gone, some fans like to think that its more likable soldiers and citizens from ''New Vegas'' are still alive, just in hiding.]]

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* HesJustHiding: [[spoiler: While the New California Republic as a whole is gone, some fans like to think that its more likable soldiers and citizens from ''New Vegas'' are still alive, just in hiding. [[WordOfGod The writer of the games]] would come out and confirm that the NCR is ''definitely'' on the downtrodden, but there are still remnants of it scattered throughout California instead of extinct.]]
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: Just how good is [[spoiler: Moldaver]] anyway? [[spoiler: NCR's survivors think of her as a BigGood but she leads a bunch of Raiders to Vault 33 and carries out a RapePillageBurn that kills a lot of innocents. Furthermore, her plan will result in the sexual assault and death of her supposed friend's daughter (and also so for the latter).]] Did she have a last minute change of heart or was this a sign of how much she despised [[spoiler: Hank?]]
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* LesYay: Between Moldaver and [[spoiler:Lucy's mom Rose]]. Their relationship is not explicitly romantic but Moldaver's first remark [[spoiler: to Lucy is mentioning how much she looks like her mother. She keeps Rose's feral ghoul form alive and eats dinner with it. When she's fatally wounded, her last act is to sit next to Rose's corpse and hold her hand]].
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* AngstAversion: Many within the ''VideoGame/FalloutNewVegas'' fandom reacted negatively to [[spoiler:the impact this series has had on a number of factions within the game; the NCR has been left in an unclear but worse state years after their last appearance, with Shady Sands having been nuked after 2277 (with some accusations that it has decanonized ''New Vegas'' entirely as the NCR was still a major player four years later which losing a capital city would certainly upend). Also, Mr. House was revealed to be EvilAllAlong and one of the masterminds behind the Great War (which some argue is OutOfCharacter considering his actions in the game), while TheStinger of the finale shows that New Vegas itself has been abandoned or at least left in a ruined state of its own over a decade later, making any action the Courier took to help Vegas and the factions a case of AllForNothing .]]

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* AngstAversion: Many within the ''VideoGame/FalloutNewVegas'' fandom reacted negatively to [[spoiler:the impact this series has had on a number of factions within the game; the NCR has been left in an unclear but worse state years after their last appearance, with Shady Sands having been nuked after 2277 (with some accusations that it has decanonized ''New Vegas'' entirely as the NCR was still a major player four years later which losing a capital city would certainly upend). Also, Mr. House was revealed to be EvilAllAlong and one of the masterminds behind participants at Vault-Tec's meeting about the Vaults and instigating the Great War (which some argue is OutOfCharacter considering his actions in the game), War, while TheStinger of the finale shows that New Vegas itself has been abandoned or at least left in a ruined state of its own over a decade later, making any action the Courier took to help Vegas and the factions a case of AllForNothing .]]
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* TheWoobie: Lucy has it rough. Her father got kidnapped, and after she got of her vault to rescue him, she ends up learning how [[NaiveNewcomer very unprepared she was for how rough life is within the Wasteland.]] Not to mention that [[spoiler:she finds out in the finale that her father was EvilAllAlong, and pretty much someone she shouldn't tried to save in the first place.]]

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* TheWoobie: Lucy has it rough. Her father got kidnapped, and after she got out of her vault to rescue him, she ends up learning how [[NaiveNewcomer very unprepared she was for how rough life is within the Wasteland.]] Not to mention that [[spoiler:she finds out in the finale that her father was EvilAllAlong, and pretty much someone she shouldn't tried to save in the first place.]]
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* UnexpectedCharacter: The penultimate episode of Season 1 includes a scene in the pre-War era with Vault-Tec hosting a meeting with the leaders of various high-powered corporations in America, which features not only [[spoiler:Frederick Sinclair as the rep for Big MT; Leon Von Felden, the creator of the FEV, as rep for West-Tek, and Julia Masters, a higher-up from REPCONN mentioned in ''New Vegas'']] but perhaps more notably, [[spoiler:Robert House himself as rep for RobCo]].

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* UnexpectedCharacter: The penultimate episode of Season 1 includes a scene in the pre-War era with Vault-Tec hosting a meeting with the leaders of various high-powered corporations in America, which features not only [[spoiler:Frederick Sinclair as the rep for Big MT; Leon Von Felden, the creator of the FEV, as rep for West-Tek, and Julia Masters, a higher-up from REPCONN mentioned in ''New Vegas'']] but perhaps more notably, [[spoiler:Robert House himself as rep for RobCo]].
[=RobCo=]]].
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* TheWoobie: Lucy has it rough. Her father got kidnapped, and after she got of her vault to rescue him, she ends up learning how [[NaiveNewcomer very unprepared she was for how rough life is within the Wasteland.]] Not to mention that [[spoiler:she finds out in the finale that her father was EvilAllAlong, and pretty much someone she shouldn't tried to save in the first place.]]
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* UnexpectedCharacter: The penultimate episode of Season 1 includes a scene in the pre-War era with Vault-Tec hosting a meeting with the leaders of various high-powered corporations in America, which features not only [[spoiler:Frederick Sinclair as the rep for Big MT, Leon Von Felden, the creator of the FEV as rep for West-Tek, Julia Masters from REPCONN]] and but perhaps more notably, [[spoiler:Robert House]].

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* UnexpectedCharacter: The penultimate episode of Season 1 includes a scene in the pre-War era with Vault-Tec hosting a meeting with the leaders of various high-powered corporations in America, which features not only [[spoiler:Frederick Sinclair as the rep for Big MT, MT; Leon Von Felden, the creator of the FEV FEV, as rep for West-Tek, and Julia Masters Masters, a higher-up from REPCONN]] and REPCONN mentioned in ''New Vegas'']] but perhaps more notably, [[spoiler:Robert House]].
House himself as rep for RobCo]].

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