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* HarsherInHindsight: The film adaption opens with the exposition "In northern California, the Santa Lucia Mountains, dark and brooding, stand like a wall between the peaceful agricultural town of Salinas and the rough and tumble fishing port of Monterey, fifteen miles away." Since the late 20th Century this has been flipped around as Salinas has become dangerously violent with gang related crime while Monterey has become a quiet, successful, tourist city partially because of the works of Creator/JohnSteinbeck.

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* HarsherInHindsight: SugarWiki/FunnyMoments:
** Abra and Cal's first big conversation, where she tells the story of how she once threw a $3000 diamond ring in the river (which is about $90,000 by today's standards). She casually says it made her father "terribly angry", and Cal giggles "I reckon it ''would''". He then does a DoubleTake as Abra says that [[InsaneTrollLogic she then forgave her father.]] After hearing her reasoning, he asks if they ever found the ring, she says "never" and the two collapse laughing.
** When Kate and Cal have their first talk, she asks about Aron and if he's like her too. Cal says "no, he's ''good''" and Kate [[ActuallyPrettyFunny cackles with laughter]].
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The film adaption opens with the exposition "In northern California, the Santa Lucia Mountains, dark and brooding, stand like a wall between the peaceful agricultural town of Salinas and the rough and tumble fishing port of Monterey, fifteen miles away." Since the late 20th Century this has been flipped around as Salinas has become dangerously violent with gang related crime while Monterey has become a quiet, successful, tourist city partially because of the works of Creator/JohnSteinbeck.Creator/JohnSteinbeck.
** The film also has James Dean playing the brother [[spoiler: who outlives his other one, since Aron enlists in World War I and is confirmed to die in the book]]. In real life, Richard Davalos would outlive his on-screen brother by several decades.


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** Abra and Cal's growing friendship. She realises that he's not a creepy delinquent, but a similarly angry and love starved young adult just like her. Reaching out to him is a great comfort, and also provides her with a partner who understands her, rather than how Aron puts her on a pedestal.
** The ending of the film actually. [[spoiler: Adam shows signs of recovering from his stroke, and whispers to Cal to stay with him, giving his son the love he'd been denied. Cal delivers this information to a delighted Abra, and they share a beautiful, passionate kiss]].
** Behind the scenes, Julie Harris spoke about James Dean and said that, despite his tempestuous behaviour, she "loved him so much" and counted herself as lucky to be one of the two women to have kissed him on film.


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* {{Moe}}: Although Cal is TroubledButCute, there are several moments of child-like whimsy that make him very endearing; most notably his little dance through the bean field.
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** At the time, James Dean's sudden death caused him to [[DeadArtistsAreBetter overshadow nearly everyone else in the cast]]. Richard Davalos was hit especially hard, getting completely forgotten. As the years have gone on, however, his performance as Aron has been held in higher regard.

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** At the time, James Dean's sudden death caused him to [[DeadArtistsAreBetter [[PosthumousPopularityPotential overshadow nearly everyone else in the cast]]. Richard Davalos was hit especially hard, getting completely forgotten. As the years have gone on, however, his performance as Aron has been held in higher regard.
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* FanPreferredCouple: Cal and Anne - Kate's maid - has a lot of traction, due to the chemistry between them when Cal visits the saloon.
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* UncannyValley: In-universe. Even in [[TheSociopath Cathy's]] childhood, other children avoided her because they could tell that there was something just not quite right about her.
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* CompleteMonster: Mr. Edwards is a ruthless whoremaster who manages to upstage [[TheSociopath Cathy Ames]] herself in depravity. Running a variety of prostitution rings across the country that he keeps in line by routinely beating his workers bloody and threatening them with homelessness or jail time to force them into servitude, Edwards forbids his women from becoming pregnant under penalty of being kicked out or having haphazard, oftentimes lethal abortions performed on them. Edwards also hides the fact that most of his workers carry sexual diseases, constantly shuffling them around so that the hapless men they transmit the infections to can never find the guilty parties. When he falls under Cathy's seductive spell, Edwards comes to begrudge the woman for making him feel genuine love, and plans to blackmail her into servitude as his personal whore to overcome his emotions towards her; instead, he ends up [[NoHoldsBarredBeatdown viciously beating her to within an inch of her life]] and leaving her for dead, Edwards rebuking love as a weakness and promising to never feel it towards anyone again.

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* CompleteMonster: Mr. Edwards is a ruthless whoremaster who manages to upstage [[TheSociopath Cathy Ames]] herself in depravity. Running a variety of prostitution rings across the country that he keeps in line by [[WouldHitAGirl routinely beating his workers bloody bloody]] and threatening them with homelessness or jail time to force them into servitude, Edwards forbids his women from becoming pregnant under penalty of being kicked out or having haphazard, oftentimes lethal abortions performed on them. Edwards also hides the fact that most of his workers carry sexual diseases, constantly shuffling them around so that the hapless men to whom they transmit the infections to can never find the guilty parties. When he falls under Cathy's seductive spell, Edwards comes to begrudge the woman for making him feel genuine love, and plans to blackmail {{blackmail}} her into servitude as his personal whore to overcome his emotions towards her; instead, he ends up [[NoHoldsBarredBeatdown viciously beating her to within an inch of her life]] and leaving her for dead, Edwards [[LoveIsAWeakness rebuking love as a weakness weakness]] and promising to never feel it towards anyone again. again.
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* CompleteMonster: Mr. Edwards is a ruthless whoremaster who manages to upstage [[TheSociopath Cathy Ames]] herself in depravity. Running a variety of prostitution rings across the country that he keeps in line by routinely beating his workers bloody and threatening them with homelessness or jail time to force them into servitude, Edwards forbids his women from becoming pregnant under penalty of being kicked out or having haphazard, oftentimes lethal abortions performed on them. Edwards also hides the fact that most of his workers carry sexual diseases, constantly shuffling them around so that the hapless men they transmit the infections to can never find the guilty parties. When he falls under Cathy's seductive spell, Edwards comes to begrudge the woman for making him feel genuine love, and plans to blackmail her into servitude as his personal whore to overcome his emotions towards her; instead, he ends up [[NoHoldsBarredBeatdown viciously beating her to within an inch of her life]] and leaving her for dead, Edwards rebuking love as a weakness and promising to never feel it towards anyone again.
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** Some feel that Julie Harris deserved a Best Actress or Supporting Actress UsefulNotes/AcademyAward nomination. These days, some viewers claim she comes close to stealing the movie from Creator/JamesDean.

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** Some feel that Julie Harris Creator/JulieHarris deserved a Best Actress or Supporting Actress UsefulNotes/AcademyAward nomination. These days, some viewers claim she comes close to stealing the movie from Creator/JamesDean.

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* AwardSnub: Some feel that Julie Harris deserved a Best Actress or Supporting Actress UsefulNotes/AcademyAward nomination. These days, some viewers claim she comes close to stealing the movie from Creator/JamesDean.

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Some feel that Julie Harris deserved a Best Actress or Supporting Actress UsefulNotes/AcademyAward nomination. These days, some viewers claim she comes close to stealing the movie from Creator/JamesDean.Creator/JamesDean.
** The film received four Academy Award nominations, but it wasn't nominated for Best Picture.
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* AwardSnub: Some feel that Julie Harris deserved a Best Actress or Supporting Actress nomination. These days, some viewers claim she comes close to stealing the movie from Creator/JamesDean.

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* AwardSnub: Some feel that Julie Harris deserved a Best Actress or Supporting Actress UsefulNotes/AcademyAward nomination. These days, some viewers claim she comes close to stealing the movie from Creator/JamesDean.

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