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* BrokenBase: While the special is still held in high regards, there has been some pushback of it being ''DBZ''[='=]s best special, as there is a few glaring {{Plot Hole}}s that have to be ignored in order for the plot to work. Specifically, King Kai's complete absence and why none of the Z-Fighters are attempting to contact the living from Otherworld, or using their position in Otherworld to find out where New Namek is.

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* BrokenBase: While the special is still held in high regards, there has been some pushback against the idea of it being ''DBZ''[='=]s best special, as there is are a few glaring {{Plot Hole}}s that have to be ignored in order for the plot to work. Specifically, King Kai's complete absence and why none of the Z-Fighters are attempting to contact the living from Otherworld, or using their position in Otherworld to find out where New Namek is.
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* BrokenBase: While the special is still held in high regards, there has been some pushback of it being ''DBZ''[='=]s best special, as there is a few glaring {{Plot Hole}}s that have to be ignored in order for the plot to work. Specifically, King Kai's complete absence and why none of the Z Fighters are attempting to contact the living from other world, or using their position in other world to find out where new Namek is.

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* BrokenBase: While the special is still held in high regards, there has been some pushback of it being ''DBZ''[='=]s best special, as there is a few glaring {{Plot Hole}}s that have to be ignored in order for the plot to work. Specifically, King Kai's complete absence and why none of the Z Fighters Z-Fighters are attempting to contact the living from other world, Otherworld, or using their position in other world Otherworld to find out where new New Namek is.
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* BrokenBase: While the special is still held in high regards, there has been some pushback of it being ''DBZ''[='=]s best special, as there is a few glaring {{Plot Hole}}s that have to be ignored in order for the plot to work. Specifically, King Kai's complete absence and why none of the Z Fighters are attempting to contact the living from other world, or using their position in other world to find out where new Namek is.


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* SignatureScene: [[spoiler:Trunks becoming a Super Saiyan after he finds Gohan's body.]]
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** The transformation of Trunks into Super Saiyan is usually considered the most dramatic of ''any'', ''including'' Goku's first transformation. That ''includes'' the infamously bad "Big Green" dub version, which still includes an epic scream for the transformation. Even the Abridged version plays it 100% straight with no jokes as well as an epic scream. It's even included in the page image for TraumaticSuperpowerAwakening.

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** The transformation of Trunks into Super Saiyan is usually considered the most dramatic of ''any'', ''including'' Goku's first transformation. That ''includes'' the infamously bad "Big Green" dub version, which still includes an epic scream for the transformation. Even the Abridged version plays it 100% straight with no jokes as well as an epic scream. It's even included in the page image for TraumaticSuperpowerAwakening.
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Only entry is Evil Is Sexy, which is being removed from YMMV as per TRS.


* EvilIsSexy: The Androids, particularly 18. There are some fans who find their more callous attitudes to be more attractive than their mainline counterparts.
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* BrokenBase: [[DownplayedTrope Downplayed]]. While the special is still held in high regards, there has been some pushback of it being DBZ's best special, as there is a few glaring {{Plot Hole}}s that have to be ignored in order for the plot to work. Specifically, King Kai's complete absence and why none of the Z Warriors are attempting to contact the living from other world, or using their position in other world to find out where new Namek is.
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* EvilIsSexy: The Androids, particularly 18. There are some fans who find their more callous attitudes to be more attractive than their mainline counterparts.
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* SignatureScene: See [[SignatureScene/DragonBall here]].
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* BrokenBase: [[DownplayedTrope Downplayed]]. While the special is still held in high regards, there has been some pushback of it being DBZ's best special, as there is a few glaring {{Plot Hole}}s that have to be ignored in order for the plot to work. Specifically, King Kai's complete absence and why none of the Z Warriors are attempting to contact the living from other world, or using their position in other world to find out where new Namek is.
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** The transformation of Trunks into Super Saiyan is usually considered the most dramatic of ''any'', ''including'' Goku's first transformation. That ''includes'' the infamously bad "Big Green" dub version, which still includes an epic scream for the transformation. It's even included in the page image for TraumaticSuperpowerAwakening.

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** The transformation of Trunks into Super Saiyan is usually considered the most dramatic of ''any'', ''including'' Goku's first transformation. That ''includes'' the infamously bad "Big Green" dub version, which still includes an epic scream for the transformation. Even the Abridged version plays it 100% straight with no jokes as well as an epic scream. It's even included in the page image for TraumaticSuperpowerAwakening.
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** The Japanese credits music "[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z00VOo6kdKM Aoi Kaze No Hope]]" is a triumphant end to the special and really instills the hope that Trunks will right the wrongs of the Androids once he returns.

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** The Japanese credits music "[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z00VOo6kdKM Aoi Kaze No no Hope]]" is a triumphant end to the special and really instills the hope that Trunks will right the wrongs of the Androids once he returns.

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** The AB Group dub. Like all of the "Big Green" movies, this one is absolutely ''loaded'' with narmful moments.

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** The AB Group dub. Like all of the "Big Green" movies, this one is absolutely ''loaded'' with narmful moments. moments:



*** The narrator describing the Z-Fighters' fight with the Androids at the beginning got the details so blatantly wrong it ends up being hilarious.

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*** The narrator describing the Z-Fighters' Z Fighters' fight with the Androids at the beginning got the details so blatantly wrong it ends up being hilarious.hilarious:

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** The dub has some of this going on, largely due to the lack of swearing in lines that really sort of called for it. For example, Bulma's response to hearing about how the androids have destroyed another city is:

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** The dub has Funimation dub:
*** Krillin's death is described as "[[LargeHam EVEN KRILLIN WAS DESTROYED BY THE RUTHLESS DUO!]]" Considering his status as a ButtMonkey, many have a hard time believing that such a description is warranted.
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some of this going on, largely due to the lack of swearing in lines that really sort of called for it. For example, Bulma's response to hearing about how the androids have destroyed another city is:



** In the English dub, Krillin's death is described as "[[LargeHam EVEN KRILLIN WAS DESTROYED BY THE RUTHLESS DUO!]]" Considering his status as a ButtMonkey, many have a hard time believing that such a description is warranted.

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** Prior to that, it's left to the viewer's interpretation if this is the "latter" version of the future timeline (where Trunks returns with the power to destroy the androids) or the "former" version where he defeats the androids [[SuddenDownerEnding only to be killed by Cell.]]



* HilariousInHindsight: Many feel that the TV special's somewhat different retelling of the story is much better overall than the original manga chapter it's based on. ''Super'' seems to agree as it shows the events of this special instead of what was in the original manga in the Future Trunks Saga.



** Krillin's death, especially with Dale Kelly's voice, is described as "[[LargeHam EVEN KRILLIN WAS DESTROYED BY THE RUTHLESS DUO!]]" Considering his status as a ButtMonkey, many have a hard time believing that such a description is warranted.

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** In the English dub, Krillin's death, especially with Dale Kelly's voice, death is described as "[[LargeHam EVEN KRILLIN WAS DESTROYED BY THE RUTHLESS DUO!]]" Considering his status as a ButtMonkey, many have a hard time believing that such a description is warranted.
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* SignatureScene: See [[SignatureScene/DragonBall here]].

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* SignatureScene: See [[SignatureScene/DragonBall here]].here]].
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* SignatureScene: See [[SignatureScene/DragonBall here]].
and so goku was no more hewasgoneforeverbutnobodyforgothim. Silently they grived, and little by little, normal peaceful life

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* SignatureScene: See [[SignatureScene/DragonBall here]].
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** Prior to that, it's left to the viewer's interpretation if this is the "latter" version of the future timeline (where Trunks returns with the power to destroy the androids) or the "former" version where he is killed by Cell, in which case it's headed for a DownerEnding.

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** Prior to that, it's left to the viewer's interpretation if this is the "latter" version of the future timeline (where Trunks returns with the power to destroy the androids) or the "former" version where he is defeats the androids [[SuddenDownerEnding only to be killed by Cell, in which case it's headed for a DownerEnding.Cell.]]
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** Prior to that, it's left to the viewer's interpretation if this is the "latter" version of the future timeline (where Trunks returns with the power to destroy the androids) or the "former" version where he is killed by Cell, in which case it's headed for a DownerEnding.

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* HarsherInHindsight:
** While the special is depressing enough, it ends on a note of hope since we know that Trunks will return stronger than ever from the past, kill the androids, and restore peace. However, [[HappyEndingOverride this message is undermined]] by ''Anime/DragonBallSuper'' with the introduction of [[spoiler:Goku Black]], who wrecks future Earth again. Not only that, things become far worse as the saga goes on. [[spoiler:Trunks slices Merged Zamasu, only for him to become an EldritchAbomination of multiversal proportions to the point of ending humanity with only Trunks and Mai left. Goku has to [[GodzillaThreshold resort]] to summoning Future Zeno, [[DownerEnding who wipes out the]] ''[[DownerEnding multiverse]]'' to put a stop to Zamasu]]. Needless to say, everything Trunks did to preserve his timeline is AllForNothing.
** In Latin America, [[spoiler:Gohan's death becomes ''infinitely'' harder to watch after his longtime voice actor, Creator/LuisAlfonsoMendoza, was murdered in February 2020. Many tributes have even alluded said scene]].

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* HarsherInHindsight:
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HarsherInHindsight: While the special is depressing enough, it ends on a note of hope since we know that Trunks will return stronger than ever from the past, kill the androids, and restore peace. However, [[HappyEndingOverride this message is undermined]] by ''Anime/DragonBallSuper'' with the introduction of [[spoiler:Goku Black]], who wrecks future Earth again. Not only that, things become far worse as the saga goes on. [[spoiler:Trunks slices Merged Zamasu, only for him to become an EldritchAbomination of multiversal proportions to the point of ending humanity with only Trunks and Mai left. Goku has to [[GodzillaThreshold resort]] to summoning Future Zeno, [[DownerEnding who wipes out the]] ''[[DownerEnding multiverse]]'' to put a stop to Zamasu]]. Needless to say, everything Trunks did to preserve his timeline is AllForNothing.
** In Latin America, [[spoiler:Gohan's death becomes ''infinitely'' harder to watch after his longtime voice actor, Creator/LuisAlfonsoMendoza, was murdered in February 2020. Many tributes have even alluded said scene]].
AllForNothing.



* SignatureScene: See [[SignatureScene/DragonBall here]].

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* SignatureScene: See [[SignatureScene/DragonBall here]].here]].
and so goku was no more hewasgoneforeverbutnobodyforgothim. Silently they grived, and little by little, normal peaceful life
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* BetterThanCanon: Many feel that the TV special's somewhat different retelling of the story is much better overall than the original manga chapter it's based on. ''Super'' seems to agree as it shows the events of this special instead of what was in the original manga in the Future Trunks Saga.

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* BetterThanCanon: Many feel that the TV special's somewhat different retelling of the story is much better overall than the original manga chapter it's based on. ''Super'' seems to agree as it shows the events of this special instead of what was in the original manga in the Future Trunks Saga.



* HilariousInHindsight: Many feel that the TV special's somewhat different retelling of the story is much better overall than the original manga chapter it's based on. ''Super'' seems to agree as it shows the events of this special instead of what was in the original manga in the Future Trunks Saga.



** Krillin's death is described as "[[LargeHam EVEN KRILLIN WAS DESTROYED BY THE RUTHLESS DUO!]]" Considering his status as a ButtMonkey, many have a hard time believing that such a description is warranted.

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** Krillin's death death, especially with Dale Kelly's voice, is described as "[[LargeHam EVEN KRILLIN WAS DESTROYED BY THE RUTHLESS DUO!]]" Considering his status as a ButtMonkey, many have a hard time believing that such a description is warranted.
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---> '''Narrator:''' Big Green had perished. Vegituh, Yamcha, Tenshin, and Clearin; They had survived...

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---> '''Narrator:''' Big Green had perished. Vegituh, Yamcha, Tenshin, and Clearin; They they had survived...
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---> '''Narrator:''' Big Green had perished. Vegituh, Yamcha, Tenshin, and Clearin. They had survived...

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---> '''Narrator:''' Big Green had perished. Vegituh, Yamcha, Tenshin, and Clearin. Clearin; They had survived...

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** The AB Group dub. Like all of the "Big Green" movies, this one is absolutely ''loaded'' with narmful moments. Trunks' growls while trying to go Super Saiyan takes the cake, though. His ''actual'' Super Saiyan makes it unintentionally hilarious when his voice actor makes him too close to Broly.

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** The AB Group dub. Like all of the "Big Green" movies, this one is absolutely ''loaded'' with narmful moments.
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Trunks' growls while trying to go Super Saiyan takes the cake, though. His ''actual'' Super Saiyan makes it unintentionally hilarious when his voice actor makes him too close to Broly.
*** The narrator describing the Z-Fighters' fight with the Androids at the beginning got the details so blatantly wrong it ends up being hilarious.
---> '''Narrator:''' Big Green had perished. Vegituh, Yamcha, Tenshin, and Clearin. They had survived...
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** The Japanese credits music [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z00VOo6kdKM "Aoi Kaze No Hope"]] is a triumphant end to the special and really instills the hope that Trunks will right the wrongs of the Androids once he returns.

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** The Japanese credits music [[https://www."[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z00VOo6kdKM "Aoi Aoi Kaze No Hope"]] Hope]]" is a triumphant end to the special and really instills the hope that Trunks will right the wrongs of the Androids once he returns.



** The transformation of Trunks into Super Saiyan is usually considered the most dramatic of ''any'', ''including'' Goku's first transformation. That ''includes'' the infamously bad "Big Green" dub version, which still includes an epic scream for the transformation. Also, that an ''[[WebVideo/DragonBallZAbridged Abridged]]'' version manages to be [[https://youtu.be/69J67L4b0xU?t=945 a TearJerker]]. It's even included in the page image for TraumaticSuperpowerAwakening.

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** The transformation of Trunks into Super Saiyan is usually considered the most dramatic of ''any'', ''including'' Goku's first transformation. That ''includes'' the infamously bad "Big Green" dub version, which still includes an epic scream for the transformation. Also, that an ''[[WebVideo/DragonBallZAbridged Abridged]]'' version manages to be [[https://youtu.be/69J67L4b0xU?t=945 a TearJerker]]. It's even included in the page image for TraumaticSuperpowerAwakening.
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Was Gohan a DeathSeeker during his final fight with the Androids? He knew he had become weaker after losing his arm, and Trunks was struggling to achieve the Super Saiyan transformation, so maybe he thought sacrificing himself after becoming dead weight would be the push Trunks needed to finally release his power.

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