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** Raonar goes off on Isolde for keeping Conor's magic a secret from Arl Eamon and not sending Conor to the Circle, and Raonar claims that her motivations are entirely self-serving. Even though Isolde ''is'' the fandom's [[TheScrappy Scrappy]], it isn't hard to see she has a point. Anyone familiar with the DA setting knows that anyone caught with magical talents have to belong to a Circle, where they stay locked up in a tower. Mages have no rights to property, family, titles, etc. They are forever under the watch of the Templars, who, at any moment, can invoke the [[KillThemAll Right of Annulment]]. The system is so broken that at least half of the mages of Thedas are willing to enter a violent rebellion to end it. To top it all off, staying in the Circle does not even guarantee that the mage will not fall to possession, as evidenced by the events at Kinloch Hold. In that light, is it really a surprise that she would want to protect her son from that? While there are also arguments ''for'' keeping the Circles, and Isolde did mess up epically, to say that her motivations were fueled by selfishness is completely absurd.
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** Raonar goes off on Isolde for keeping Conor's magic a secret from Arl Eamon and not sending Conor to the Circle, and Raonar claims that her motivations are entirely self-serving. Even though Isolde ''is'' the fandom's [[TheScrappy Scrappy]], it isn't hard to see she has a point. Anyone familiar with the DA setting knows that anyone caught with magical talents have to belong to a Circle, where they stay locked up in a tower. Mages have no rights to property, family, titles, etc. They are forever under the watch of the Templars, who, at any moment, can invoke the [[KillThemAll Right of Annulment]].Annulment. The system is so broken that at least half of the mages of Thedas are willing to enter a violent rebellion to end it. To top it all off, staying in the Circle does not even guarantee that the mage will not fall to possession, as evidenced by the events at Kinloch Hold. In that light, is it really a surprise that she would want to protect her son from that? While there are also arguments ''for'' keeping the Circles, and Isolde did mess up epically, to say that her motivations were fueled by selfishness is completely absurd.
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* InformedAttractiveness: The fic will try to tell you that Raonar is "objectively" handsome and that no woman could possibly resist his looks. Except, the only people in the fic who ever display any attraction towards Raonar are [[LovableSexManiac Zevran]] and [[ImpliedLoveInterest Leliana]].
* InformedFlaw: One of the [[AuthorFilibuster many]] reasons the author thinks that Bhelen would make a poor king is that apparently, Bhelen would piss off the Assembly so much that nothing would get done. Yet, in the first act, Bhelen apparently has enough political clout to have half the Assembly in his pocket and frame Raonar for murder.
* InformedFlaw: One of the [[AuthorFilibuster many]] reasons the author thinks that Bhelen would make a poor king is that apparently, Bhelen would piss off the Assembly so much that nothing would get done. Yet, in the first act, Bhelen apparently has enough political clout to have half the Assembly in his pocket and frame Raonar for murder.
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* CrazyAwesome: Faren sometimes does this, particularly when he's in Dark Wolf mode.
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* CrazyAwesome: CrazyIsCool: Faren sometimes does this, particularly when he's in Dark Wolf mode.
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* InformedAttractiveness: The fic will try to tell you that Raonar is "objectively" handsome and that no woman could possibly resist his looks. Except, the only people in the fic who ever display any attraction towards Raonar are [[LovableSexManiac Zevran]] and [[ImpliedLoveInterest Lelianna]].
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* InformedAttractiveness: The fic will try to tell you that Raonar is "objectively" handsome and that no woman could possibly resist his looks. Except, the only people in the fic who ever display any attraction towards Raonar are [[LovableSexManiac Zevran]] and [[ImpliedLoveInterest Lelianna]].Leliana]].
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* RonTheDeathEater: Bhelen is a stupid, pathetic idiot and so is anyone who likes him, as told in the long (and we do mean ''long'') endnote of chapter 48. Especially bizarre because canon Bhelen is already [[GreyAndGreyMorality a pretty shitty person]], so there should be no need to make him worse.
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* RonTheDeathEater: Bhelen is a stupid, pathetic idiot and so is anyone who likes him, as we are told in the long (and we do mean ''long'') endnote of chapter 48. Especially bizarre because canon Bhelen is already [[GreyAndGreyMorality a pretty shitty person]], so there should be no need to make him worse.
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* Informed Attractiveness: The fic will try to tell you that Raonar is "objectively" handsome and that no woman could possibly resist his looks. Except, the only people in the fic who ever display any attraction towards Raonar are [[LovableSexManiac Zevran]] and [[ImpliedLoveInterest Lelianna]].
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* Informed Attractiveness: InformedAttractiveness: The fic will try to tell you that Raonar is "objectively" handsome and that no woman could possibly resist his looks. Except, the only people in the fic who ever display any attraction towards Raonar are [[LovableSexManiac Zevran]] and [[ImpliedLoveInterest Lelianna]].
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* Informed Attractiveness: The fic will try to tell you that Raonar is "objectively" handsome and that no woman could possibly resist his looks. Except, the only people in the fic who ever display any attraction towards Raonar are [[LovableSexManiac Zevran]] and [[ImpliedLoveInterest Lelianna]].
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* GaryStu: Raonar. He starts the story with the Spirit Warrior specialization and takes its already [[GameBreaker gamebreaking]] powers up to eleven, saves Trian, matches Duncan in combat prowess at Ostagar, and has the non-canon ability to [[spoiler: draw the taint out of other people]]. The fic also takes his WisePrince status to ridiculous levels. He somehow always knows when people are lying to him, and he's always portrayed as being in the right both factually and morally, and anyone who disagrees with him always ends up in the wrong, to the point where he can order the other Wardens into complete obedience without anyone calling him out. Hilariously, the author even tries to defend Raonar in one of his author's notes, saying that Raonar can't be a Gary Stu (on account of his powers at least) because he was only able to get his powers because [[DiggingYourselfDeeper he made a deal with a (very powerful) Honor spirit]].
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** Raonar goes off on Isolde for keeping Conor's magic a secret from Arl Eamon and not sending Conor to the Circle, and Raonar claims that her motivations are entirely self-serving. Even though Isolde ''is'' the fandom's [[TheScrappy Scrappy]], it isn't hard to see she has a point. Anyone familiar to the DA setting knows that anyone caught with magical talents have to belong to a Circle, where they stay locked up in a tower. Mages have no rights to property, family, titles, etc. They are forever under the watch of the Templars, who, at any moment, can invoke the [[KillThemAll Right of Annulment]]. The system is so broken that at least half of the mages of Thedas are willing to enter a violent rebellion to end it. To top it all off, staying in the Circle does not even guarantee that the mage will not fall to possession, as evidenced by the events at Kinloch Hold. In that light, is it really a surprise that she would want to protect her son from that? While there are also arguments ''for'' keeping the Circles, and Isolde did mess up epically, to say that her motivations were fueled by selfishness is completely absurd.
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** Raonar goes off on Isolde for keeping Conor's magic a secret from Arl Eamon and not sending Conor to the Circle, and Raonar claims that her motivations are entirely self-serving. Even though Isolde ''is'' the fandom's [[TheScrappy Scrappy]], it isn't hard to see she has a point. Anyone familiar to with the DA setting knows that anyone caught with magical talents have to belong to a Circle, where they stay locked up in a tower. Mages have no rights to property, family, titles, etc. They are forever under the watch of the Templars, who, at any moment, can invoke the [[KillThemAll Right of Annulment]]. The system is so broken that at least half of the mages of Thedas are willing to enter a violent rebellion to end it. To top it all off, staying in the Circle does not even guarantee that the mage will not fall to possession, as evidenced by the events at Kinloch Hold. In that light, is it really a surprise that she would want to protect her son from that? While there are also arguments ''for'' keeping the Circles, and Isolde did mess up epically, to say that her motivations were fueled by selfishness is completely absurd.
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** At one point, Raonar yells at Wynne for [[DisproportionateRetribution giving Kallian advice on Grey Warden conduct]]. The justification the fic gives for it is that, as a non-Warden, Wynne cannot possibly know what the Wardens are going through, and therefore it isn't her place. Apparently getting an outside perspective isn't a thing among the Grey Wardens. To top it off, the reason for Raonar's outburst was because Wynne had discouraged Tabris from getting into a relationship with Brosca because it would interfere with stopping the Blight. Except, not only is Wynne not the only character in DAO to have concerns (Morrigan will ask a romanced Alistair what he would do if he had to choose between his lover and the greater good), but later in the game, if your Warden romances someone, another NPC will use that to try to manipulate the Warden into taking an action that would have an impact on the main plot. Wynne has every reason to be concerned.
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** At one point, Raonar yells at Wynne for [[DisproportionateRetribution giving Kallian advice on Grey Warden conduct]]. The justification the fic gives for it is that, as a non-Warden, Wynne cannot possibly know what the Wardens are going through, and therefore it isn't her place. Apparently getting an outside perspective isn't a thing among the Grey Wardens. To top it off, the reason for Raonar's outburst was because Wynne had discouraged Tabris from getting into a relationship with Brosca because it would interfere with stopping the Blight. Except, not only is Wynne not the only character in DAO to have concerns (Morrigan will ask a romanced Alistair what he would do if he had to choose between his lover and the greater good), but later in the game, if your Warden romances someone, another NPC will use that to try to manipulate the Warden into taking an action that would have an impact on the main plot. In that light, Wynne has every reason to be concerned.
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* StrawmanHasAPoint: Raonar goes off on Isolde for keeping Conor's magic a secret from Arl Eamon and not sending Conor to the Circle, and Raonar claims that her motivations are entirely self-serving. Even though Isolde ''is'' the fandom's [[TheScrappy Scrappy]], it isn't hard to see she has a point. Anyone familiar to the DA setting knows that anyone caught with magical talents have to belong to a Circle, where they stay locked up in a tower. Mages have no rights to property, family, titles, etc. They are forever under the watch of the Templars, who, at any moment, can invoke the [[KillThemAll Right of Annulment]]. The system is so broken that at least half of the mages of Thedas are willing to enter a violent rebellion to end it. To top it all off, staying in the Circle does not even guarantee that the mage will not fall to possession, as evidenced by the events at Kinloch Hold. In that light, is it really a surprise that she would want to protect her son from that? While there are also arguments ''for'' keeping the Circles, and Isolde did mess up epically, to say that her motivations were fueled by selfishness is completely absurd.
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** Raonar goes off on Isolde for keeping Conor's magic a secret from Arl Eamon and not sending Conor to the Circle, and Raonar claims that her motivations are entirely self-serving. Even though Isolde ''is'' the fandom's [[TheScrappy Scrappy]], it isn't hard to see she has a point. Anyone familiar to the DA setting knows that anyone caught with magical talents have to belong to a Circle, where they stay locked up in a tower. Mages have no rights to property, family, titles, etc. They are forever under the watch of the Templars, who, at any moment, can invoke the [[KillThemAll Right of Annulment]]. The system is so broken that at least half of the mages of Thedas are willing to enter a violent rebellion to end it. To top it all off, staying in the Circle does not even guarantee that the mage will not fall to possession, as evidenced by the events at Kinloch Hold. In that light, is it really a surprise that she would want to protect her son from that? While there are also arguments ''for'' keeping the Circles, and Isolde did mess up epically, to say that her motivations were fueled by selfishness is completelyabsurd.absurd.
** At one point, Raonar yells at Wynne for [[DisproportionateRetribution giving Kallian advice on Grey Warden conduct]]. The justification the fic gives for it is that, as a non-Warden, Wynne cannot possibly know what the Wardens are going through, and therefore it isn't her place. Apparently getting an outside perspective isn't a thing among the Grey Wardens. To top it off, the reason for Raonar's outburst was because Wynne had discouraged Tabris from getting into a relationship with Brosca because it would interfere with stopping the Blight. Except, not only is Wynne not the only character in DAO to have concerns (Morrigan will ask a romanced Alistair what he would do if he had to choose between his lover and the greater good), but later in the game, if your Warden romances someone, another NPC will use that to try to manipulate the Warden into taking an action that would have an impact on the main plot. Wynne has every reason to be concerned.
** Raonar goes off on Isolde for keeping Conor's magic a secret from Arl Eamon and not sending Conor to the Circle, and Raonar claims that her motivations are entirely self-serving. Even though Isolde ''is'' the fandom's [[TheScrappy Scrappy]], it isn't hard to see she has a point. Anyone familiar to the DA setting knows that anyone caught with magical talents have to belong to a Circle, where they stay locked up in a tower. Mages have no rights to property, family, titles, etc. They are forever under the watch of the Templars, who, at any moment, can invoke the [[KillThemAll Right of Annulment]]. The system is so broken that at least half of the mages of Thedas are willing to enter a violent rebellion to end it. To top it all off, staying in the Circle does not even guarantee that the mage will not fall to possession, as evidenced by the events at Kinloch Hold. In that light, is it really a surprise that she would want to protect her son from that? While there are also arguments ''for'' keeping the Circles, and Isolde did mess up epically, to say that her motivations were fueled by selfishness is completely
** At one point, Raonar yells at Wynne for [[DisproportionateRetribution giving Kallian advice on Grey Warden conduct]]. The justification the fic gives for it is that, as a non-Warden, Wynne cannot possibly know what the Wardens are going through, and therefore it isn't her place. Apparently getting an outside perspective isn't a thing among the Grey Wardens. To top it off, the reason for Raonar's outburst was because Wynne had discouraged Tabris from getting into a relationship with Brosca because it would interfere with stopping the Blight. Except, not only is Wynne not the only character in DAO to have concerns (Morrigan will ask a romanced Alistair what he would do if he had to choose between his lover and the greater good), but later in the game, if your Warden romances someone, another NPC will use that to try to manipulate the Warden into taking an action that would have an impact on the main plot. Wynne has every reason to be concerned.
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* StrawmanHasAPoint: Raonar really goes off on Isolde for keeping Conor's magic a secret from Arl Eamon and not sending Conor to the Circle. Even though Isolde ''is'' the fandom's [[TheScrappy Scrappy]], it isn't hard to see she has a point. Anyone familiar to the DA setting knows that anyone caught with magical talents have to belong to a Circle, where they stay locked up in a tower. Mages have no rights to property, family, titles, etc. They are forever under the watch of the Templars, who, at any moment, can invoke the [[KillThemAll Right of Annulment]]. The system is so broken that at least half of the mages of Thedas are willing to enter a violent rebellion to end it. To top it all off, staying in the Circle does not even guarantee that the mage will not fall to possession, as evidenced by the events at Kinloch Hold. In that light, is it really a surprise that she would want to protect her son from that? While there are also arguments ''for'' keeping the Circles, and Isolde did mess up epically, to say that her motivations were fueled by selfishness is completely absurd.
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* StrawmanHasAPoint: Raonar really goes off on Isolde for keeping Conor's magic a secret from Arl Eamon and not sending Conor to the Circle.Circle, and Raonar claims that her motivations are entirely self-serving. Even though Isolde ''is'' the fandom's [[TheScrappy Scrappy]], it isn't hard to see she has a point. Anyone familiar to the DA setting knows that anyone caught with magical talents have to belong to a Circle, where they stay locked up in a tower. Mages have no rights to property, family, titles, etc. They are forever under the watch of the Templars, who, at any moment, can invoke the [[KillThemAll Right of Annulment]]. The system is so broken that at least half of the mages of Thedas are willing to enter a violent rebellion to end it. To top it all off, staying in the Circle does not even guarantee that the mage will not fall to possession, as evidenced by the events at Kinloch Hold. In that light, is it really a surprise that she would want to protect her son from that? While there are also arguments ''for'' keeping the Circles, and Isolde did mess up epically, to say that her motivations were fueled by selfishness is completely absurd.
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* StrawmanHasAPoint: Raonar really goes off on Isolde for keeping his magic a secret from Arl Eamon and not sending him to the Circle. Even though Isolde ''is'' the fandom's [[TheScrappy Scrappy]], it isn't hard to see she has a point. Anyone familiar to the DA setting knows that anyone caught with magical talents have to belong to a Circle, where they stay locked up in a tower. Mages have no rights to property, family, titles, etc. They are forever under the watch of the Templars, who, at any moment, can invoke the [[KillThemAll Right of Annulment]]. The system is so broken that at least half of the mages of Thedas are willing to enter a violent rebellion to end it. To top it all off, staying in the Circle does not even guarantee that the mage will not fall to possession, as evidenced by the events at Kinloch Hold. In that light, is it really a surprise that she would want to protect her son from that? While there are also arguments ''for'' keeping the Circles, and Isolde did mess up epically, to say that her motivations were fueled by selfishness is completely absurd.
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* StrawmanHasAPoint: Raonar really goes off on Isolde for keeping his Conor's magic a secret from Arl Eamon and not sending him Conor to the Circle. Even though Isolde ''is'' the fandom's [[TheScrappy Scrappy]], it isn't hard to see she has a point. Anyone familiar to the DA setting knows that anyone caught with magical talents have to belong to a Circle, where they stay locked up in a tower. Mages have no rights to property, family, titles, etc. They are forever under the watch of the Templars, who, at any moment, can invoke the [[KillThemAll Right of Annulment]]. The system is so broken that at least half of the mages of Thedas are willing to enter a violent rebellion to end it. To top it all off, staying in the Circle does not even guarantee that the mage will not fall to possession, as evidenced by the events at Kinloch Hold. In that light, is it really a surprise that she would want to protect her son from that? While there are also arguments ''for'' keeping the Circles, and Isolde did mess up epically, to say that her motivations were fueled by selfishness is completely absurd.
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* InformedFlaw: One of the [[AuthorFillibuster many]] reasons the author thinks that Bhelen would make a poor king is that apparently, Bhelen would piss off the Assembly so much that nothing would get done. Yet, in the first act, Bhelen apparently has enough political clout to have half the Assembly in his pocket and frame Raonar for murder.
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* InformedFlaw: One of the [[AuthorFillibuster [[AuthorFilibuster many]] reasons the author thinks that Bhelen would make a poor king is that apparently, Bhelen would piss off the Assembly so much that nothing would get done. Yet, in the first act, Bhelen apparently has enough political clout to have half the Assembly in his pocket and frame Raonar for murder.
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* InformedFlaw: One of the [[AuthorFillibuster many]] reasons the author thinks that Bhelen would make a poor king is that apparently, Bhelen would piss off the Assembly so much that nothing would get done. Yet, in the first act, Bhelen apparently has enough political clout to have half the Assembly in his pocket and frame Raonar for murder.
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* StrawmanHasAPoint: Raonar really goes off on Isolde for keeping his magic a secret from Arl Eamon and not sending him to the Circle. Even though Isolde ''is'' the fandom's [[TheScrappy Scrappy]], it isn't hard to see she has a point. Anyone familiar to the DA setting knows that anyone caught with magical talents have to belong to a Circle, where they stay locked up in a tower. Mages have no rights to property, family, titles, etc. They are forever under the watch of the Templars, who, at any moment, can invoke the [[KillThemAll Right of Annulment]]. The system is so broken that at least half of the mages of Thedas are willing to enter a violent rebellion to end it. To top it all off, staying in the Circle does not even guarantee that the mage will not fall to possession, as evidenced by the events at Kinloch Hold. In that light, is it really a surprise that she would want to protect her son from that? While there are also arguments ''for'' keeping the Circles, and Isolde did mess up epically, to say that her motivations were fueled by selfishness are completely absurd.
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* StrawmanHasAPoint: Raonar really goes off on Isolde for keeping his magic a secret from Arl Eamon and not sending him to the Circle. Even though Isolde ''is'' the fandom's [[TheScrappy Scrappy]], it isn't hard to see she has a point. Anyone familiar to the DA setting knows that anyone caught with magical talents have to belong to a Circle, where they stay locked up in a tower. Mages have no rights to property, family, titles, etc. They are forever under the watch of the Templars, who, at any moment, can invoke the [[KillThemAll Right of Annulment]]. The system is so broken that at least half of the mages of Thedas are willing to enter a violent rebellion to end it. To top it all off, staying in the Circle does not even guarantee that the mage will not fall to possession, as evidenced by the events at Kinloch Hold. In that light, is it really a surprise that she would want to protect her son from that? While there are also arguments ''for'' keeping the Circles, and Isolde did mess up epically, to say that her motivations were fueled by selfishness are is completely absurd.
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* StrawmanHasAPoint: Raonar really goes off on Isolde for keeping his magic a secret from Arl Eamon and not sending him to the Circle. Even though Isolde ''is'' the fandom's [[TheScrappy Scrappy]], it isn't hard to see she has a point. Anyone familiar to the DA setting knows that anyone caught with magical talents have to belong to a Circle, where they stay locked up in a tower. Mages have no rights to property, family, titles, etc. They are forever under the watch of the Templars, who, at any moment, can invoke the [[KillThemAll Right of Annulment]]. The system is so broken that at least half of the mages of Thedas are willing to enter a violent rebellion to end it. To top it all off, staying in the Circle does not even guarantee that the mage will not fall to possession, as evidenced by the events at Kinloch Hold. In that light, is it really a surprise that she would want to protect her son from that? While there are also arguments ''for'' keeping the Circles, and Isolde did mess up epically, to say that her motivations were fueled by selfishness are completely absurd.
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* GaryStu: Raonar. He starts the story with the Spirit Warrior specialization and takes its already [[GameBreaker gamebreaking]] powers up to eleven, saves Trian, matches Duncan in combat prowess at Ostagar, and has the non-canon ability to [[spoiler: draw the taint out of other people]]. The fic also takes his WisePrince status to ridiculous levels. He somehow always knows when people are lying to him, and he's always portrayed as being in the right both factually and morally, and anyone who disagrees with him always ends up in the wrong, to the point where he can order the other Wardens into complete obedience without anyone calling him out. Hilariously, the author even tries to defend Raonar in one of his author's notes, saying that Raonar can't be a Gary Stu (on account of his powers at least) is because was only able to get his powers because [[DiggingYourselfDeeper he made a deal with a (very powerful) Honor spirit]].
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* GaryStu: Raonar. He starts the story with the Spirit Warrior specialization and takes its already [[GameBreaker gamebreaking]] powers up to eleven, saves Trian, matches Duncan in combat prowess at Ostagar, and has the non-canon ability to [[spoiler: draw the taint out of other people]]. The fic also takes his WisePrince status to ridiculous levels. He somehow always knows when people are lying to him, and he's always portrayed as being in the right both factually and morally, and anyone who disagrees with him always ends up in the wrong, to the point where he can order the other Wardens into complete obedience without anyone calling him out. Hilariously, the author even tries to defend Raonar in one of his author's notes, saying that Raonar can't be a Gary Stu (on account of his powers at least) is because he was only able to get his powers because [[DiggingYourselfDeeper he made a deal with a (very powerful) Honor spirit]].
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* GaryStu: Raonar. He starts the story with the Spirit Warrior specialization and takes its already [[GameBreaker gamebreaking]] powers up to eleven, saves Trian, matches Duncan in combat prowess at Ostagar, and has the non-canon ability to [[spoiler: draw the taint out of other people]]. The fic also takes his WisePrince status to ridiculous levels. He somehow always knows when people are lying to him, and he's always portrayed as being in the right both factually and morally, and anyone who disagrees with him always ends up in the wrong, to the point where he can order the other Wardens into complete obedience without anyone calling him out. Hilariously, the author even tries to defend Raonar in one of his author's notes, saying that Raonar can't be a Gary Stu (on account of his powers at least) is because was only able to get his powers because of [[DiggingYourselfDeeper a deal Raonar made with a (very powerful) Honor spirit]].
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* GaryStu: Raonar. He starts the story with the Spirit Warrior specialization and takes its already [[GameBreaker gamebreaking]] powers up to eleven, saves Trian, matches Duncan in combat prowess at Ostagar, and has the non-canon ability to [[spoiler: draw the taint out of other people]]. The fic also takes his WisePrince status to ridiculous levels. He somehow always knows when people are lying to him, and he's always portrayed as being in the right both factually and morally, and anyone who disagrees with him always ends up in the wrong, to the point where he can order the other Wardens into complete obedience without anyone calling him out. Hilariously, the author even tries to defend Raonar in one of his author's notes, saying that Raonar can't be a Gary Stu (on account of his powers at least) is because was only able to get his powers because of [[DiggingYourselfDeeper he made a deal Raonar made with a (very powerful) Honor spirit]].
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* GaryStu: Raonar. He starts the story with the Spirit Warrior specialization and takes its already [[GameBreaker gamebreaking]] powers up to eleven, saves Trian, matches Duncan in combat prowess at Ostagar, and has the non-canon ability to [[spoiler: draw the taint out of other people]]. The fic also takes his WisePrince status to ridiculous levels. He somehow always knows when people are lying to him, and he's always portrayed as being in the right factually and morally, and anyone who disagrees with him always ends up in the wrong, to the point where he can order the other Wardens into complete obedience without anyone calling him out.
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* GaryStu: Raonar. He starts the story with the Spirit Warrior specialization and takes its already [[GameBreaker gamebreaking]] powers up to eleven, saves Trian, matches Duncan in combat prowess at Ostagar, and has the non-canon ability to [[spoiler: draw the taint out of other people]]. The fic also takes his WisePrince status to ridiculous levels. He somehow always knows when people are lying to him, and he's always portrayed as being in the right both factually and morally, and anyone who disagrees with him always ends up in the wrong, to the point where he can order the other Wardens into complete obedience without anyone calling him out.out. Hilariously, the author even tries to defend Raonar in one of his author's notes, saying that Raonar can't be a Gary Stu (on account of his powers at least) is because was only able to get his powers because of [[DiggingYourselfDeeper a deal Raonar made with a (very powerful) Honor spirit]].
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* GaryStu: Raonar. He starts the story with the Spirit Warrior specialization and takes its already [[GameBreaker gamebreaking]] powers up to eleven, saves Trian, matches Duncan in combat prowess at Ostagar, and has the non-canon ability to [[spoiler: draw the taint out of other people]]. The fic also takes his WisePrince status to ridiculous levels. He somehow always knows when people are lying to him, and he's always portrayed as being in the right factually and morally, and anyone who disagrees with him always ends up in the wrong, to the point where he can order the other Wardens into complete obedience without anyone calling him out.
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* CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming: Again, more than one.
** [[spoiler:Faren's nightmare and its resolution.]]
** [[spoiler:Trian and Raonar's reunion.]]
** [[spoiler:Faren's nightmare and its resolution.]]
** [[spoiler:Trian and Raonar's reunion.]]
* SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments: Again, more than one.
** [[spoiler:Faren's nightmare and its resolution.]]
** [[spoiler:Trian and Raonar's reunion.]]
** [[spoiler:Faren's nightmare and its resolution.]]
** [[spoiler:Trian and Raonar's reunion.]]
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** IronWoobie: Gwenith and Raonar qualify.
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** IronWoobie: Gwenith and Raonar qualify.qualify.
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* DracoInLeatherPants: Just as author gives Bhelen the RonTheDeathEater treatment, he also completely ignores any of [[NobleBigotWithABadge Lord]] [[WellIntentionedExtremist Harrowmont's]] [[SlavetoPR faults]]. The author even insists that Lord Harrowmont would be a ''better'' leader for the casteless, completely ignoring Lord Harrowmont's obvious distaste for the casteless and stagnant policies.
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* DracoInLeatherPants: Just as author gives Bhelen the RonTheDeathEater treatment, he also completely ignores any of [[NobleBigotWithABadge Lord]] [[WellIntentionedExtremist Harrowmont's]] [[SlavetoPR faults]]. The author even insists that Lord Harrowmont would be a ''better'' leader for the casteless, completely ignoring Lord Harrowmont's stagnant policies and obvious distaste for the casteless and stagnant policies.casteless.
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* DracoInLeatherPants: Just as author gives Bhelen the RonTheDeathEater treatment, he also completely ignores any of [[NobleBigotWithABadge Lord]] [[WellIntentionedExtremist Harrowmont's]] [[SlavetoPR faults]]. In an essay insists that Lord Harrowmont would be a ''better'' leader for the casteless, completely ignoring Lord Harrowmont's obvious distaste for the casteless and stagnant policies.
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* DracoInLeatherPants: Just as author gives Bhelen the RonTheDeathEater treatment, he also completely ignores any of [[NobleBigotWithABadge Lord]] [[WellIntentionedExtremist Harrowmont's]] [[SlavetoPR faults]]. In an essay The author even insists that Lord Harrowmont would be a ''better'' leader for the casteless, completely ignoring Lord Harrowmont's obvious distaste for the casteless and stagnant policies.
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* DracoInLeatherPants: The author completely ignores any of [[NobleBigotWithABadge Lord]] [[WellIntentionedExtremist Harrowmont's]] [[SlavetoPR faults]] and in an essay insists that Lord Harrowmont would be a ''better'' leader for the casteless, completely ignoring how rude Lord Harrowmont is to a Dwarf Commoner Warden.
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* DracoInLeatherPants: The Just as author gives Bhelen the RonTheDeathEater treatment, he also completely ignores any of [[NobleBigotWithABadge Lord]] [[WellIntentionedExtremist Harrowmont's]] [[SlavetoPR faults]] and in faults]]. In an essay insists that Lord Harrowmont would be a ''better'' leader for the casteless, completely ignoring how rude Lord Harrowmont is to a Dwarf Commoner Warden. Harrowmont's obvious distaste for the casteless and stagnant policies.
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* DracoInLeatherPants: The author completely ignores any of [[NobleBigot Lord]] [[WellIntentionedExtremist Harrowmont's]] [[SlavetoPR faults]] and in an essay insists that Lord Harrowmont would be a ''better'' leader for the casteless, completely ignoring how rude Lord Harrowmont is to a Dwarf Commoner Warden.
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* DracoInLeatherPants: The author completely ignores any of [[NobleBigot [[NobleBigotWithABadge Lord]] [[WellIntentionedExtremist Harrowmont's]] [[SlavetoPR faults]] and in an essay insists that Lord Harrowmont would be a ''better'' leader for the casteless, completely ignoring how rude Lord Harrowmont is to a Dwarf Commoner Warden.
