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* IKnewIt: There were some fans who suspected that Moon [[spoiler: would become the main antagonist]] from his very first appearance. They were right.
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* DiagnosedByTheAudience: What most of the client's problems begin as. This also applies to Frost; while we know that [[spoiler: his frontal lobe damage]] is a major part in his problems, we still don't know how it happened.
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** In "Happy Birthday, Dr. Frost", when [[spoiler: Chun is murdered.]]
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** In "Happy Birthday, Dr. Frost", when [[spoiler: Chun is murdered.]]]]
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* ShockingSwerve: [[spoiler: Who would've guessed that Chun, despite being a MentorArchetype, would be [[MentorOccupationalHazard killed off?]]]]
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* FanPreferredCouple: Similar to the EnsembleDarkhorse, try to find another top comment that doesn’t mention the Frost X Yoon ship. From the beginning, people have shipped them, despite the age gap and Frost’s LackOfEmpathy. [[spoiler: You can imagine the shippers’ imaginations going wild when a photo that was implied to be of Frost as a child with his family emerged, with the mom looking [[LikeParentLikeSpouse an awful lot like Seonga.]]]]
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* MagnificentBastard: Frost fits this to a T with his plans to help clients. Moon can also be considered this, but in a darker light.
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* CompleteMonster: Moon. [[spoiler: His affable demeanor and seemingly altruistic goals make him a well loved, respected, and famed psychologist. But he uses people for his experiments, and has talked people into committing suicide without batting an eye, making him a psychological murderer. He also treats suicide like a game, and isn’t above indirectly have people murdered.]]
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** Seonga's reaction after she and Frost find and help save Pavlov, only to discover if he doesn't get adopted soon, he'll be put down anyway. Especially when you put into consideration Frost wondering why they saved him when he'll just die anyway. Is her desperation to save him because she wants to saye him, or to prove Frost wrong?
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** Seonga's reaction after she and Frost find and help save Pavlov, only to discover if he doesn't get adopted soon, he'll be put down anyway. Especially when you put into consideration Frost wondering why they saved him when he'll just die anyway. Is her desperation to save him because she wants to saye save him, or to prove Frost wrong?
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** Moon. Is he an interesting, complex antagonist who may not be likable, but should be appreciated as a MagnificentBastard and well written character? Or is he a only a ManipulativeBastard who doubles as a HateSink after he [[spoiler: is revealed to have been involved in many homeless people committing suicide, definitely influenced Jeonghyun into committing suicide after he had just started getting better, and for having Chun killed?]]
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** Moon. Is he an interesting, complex antagonist who may not be likable, but should be appreciated as a MagnificentBastard and well written character? Or is he a only a ManipulativeBastard who doubles as a HateSink after he [[spoiler: is revealed to have been involved in many homeless people committing suicide, definitely influenced Jeonghyun into committing suicide after he had just started getting better, and for having Chun killed?]]
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** Seon's hatred of Frost. Is it really because she thinks he's [[spoiler: responsible for Seol's suicide,]] or are is because she feels [[spoiler: guilty over not being able to answer her phone and get to her in time?]]
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** Seon's hatred of Frost. Is it really because she thinks he's [[spoiler: responsible for Seol's suicide,]] or are is it because she feels [[spoiler: guilty over not being able to answer her phone and get to her in time?]]
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** Seonga's reaction after she and Frost find and help save Pavlov, only to discover if he doesn't get adopted soon, he'll be put down anyway. Especially when you put into consideration Frost wondering why they saved him when he'll just die anyway. Is her desperation to save him because she wants to saye him, or to prove Frost wrong?
** Seon's hatred of Frost. Is it really because she thinks he's [[spoiler: responsible for Seol's suicide,]] or are is because she feels [[spoiler: guilty over not being able to answer her phone and get to her in time?]]
** Seonga's reaction after she and Frost find and help save Pavlov, only to discover if he doesn't get adopted soon, he'll be put down anyway. Especially when you put into consideration Frost wondering why they saved him when he'll just die anyway. Is her desperation to save him because she wants to saye him, or to prove Frost wrong?
** Seon's hatred of Frost. Is it really because she thinks he's [[spoiler: responsible for Seol's suicide,]] or are is because she feels [[spoiler: guilty over not being able to answer her phone and get to her in time?]]
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** Song. Are her reasons for hating Frost [[spoiler: (as in, her sister being his first patient, and after her suicide, hearing him call her an experiment)]] utterly justified? Or are they blown out of proportion, especially as ten years have gone by since it happened.
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** Song. Are Some people find her reasons for hating Frost [[spoiler: (as in, her sister being his first patient, and after her suicide, hearing him call her an experiment)]] utterly justified? Or are they blown out of proportion, especially as justified, and some think that since ten years have gone by since it happened.passed, her feelings are blown out of proportion.
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* JerkassWoobie: Song. She's not a jerkass, per se, but while Frost isn't very likable as a person, she hates him on another level.[[spoiler: First, she grows up with a sister who has borderline personality disorder, who gets more attention from her parents than Seon. Then as they grow older, Seol begins to get more easily jealous whenever Seon gets close to a boy, and she steals away their attention too. And then when Seon is a student, her sister wants to get counseled by Frost, who is still a student himself. It doesn’t help that Seon has a crush on and also considers him a friend, and worried that Seol is only doing this to make her jealous. Then Seol makes another false suicide attempt, except this time, she can’t get ahold of Seon, and ends up dying. The final blow is when she overhears Frost talk about Seol and her suicide as little more than an experiment.]] In the end, she’s definitely allowed to hold a grudge.
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* JerkassWoobie: Song. She's not a jerkass, per se, but while Frost isn't very likable as a person, she hates him on another level. [[spoiler: First, she grows up with a sister who has borderline personality disorder, who gets more attention from her parents than Seon. Then as they grow older, Seol begins to get more easily jealous whenever Seon gets close to a boy, and she steals away their attention too. And then when Seon is a student, her sister wants to get counseled by Frost, who is still a student himself. It doesn’t help that Seon has a crush on and also considers him a friend, and worried that Seol is only doing this to make her jealous. Then Seol makes another false suicide attempt, except this time, she can’t get ahold of Seon, and ends up dying. The final blow is when she overhears Frost talk about Seol and her suicide as little more than an experiment.]] In the end, she’s definitely allowed to hold a grudge.
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* BaseBreakingCharacter: Moon. Is he an interesting, complex antagonist who may not be likable, but should be appreciated as a MagnificentBastard and well written character? Or is he a only a ManipulativeBastard who doubles as a HateSink after he [[spoiler: is revealed to have been involved in many homeless people committing suicide, definitely influenced Jeonghyun into committing suicide after he had just started getting better, and for having Chun killed?]]
** Song as well. Are her reasons for hating Frost [[spoiler: (as in, her sister being his first patient, and after her suicide, hearing him call her an experiment)]] utterly justified? Or are they blown out of proportion, especially as ten years have gone by since it happened.
** Song as well. Are her reasons for hating Frost [[spoiler: (as in, her sister being his first patient, and after her suicide, hearing him call her an experiment)]] utterly justified? Or are they blown out of proportion, especially as ten years have gone by since it happened.
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** Moon. Is he an interesting, complex antagonist who may not be likable, but should be appreciated as a MagnificentBastard and well written character? Or is he a only a ManipulativeBastard who doubles as a HateSink after he [[spoiler: is revealed to have been involved in many homeless people committing suicide, definitely influenced Jeonghyun into committing suicide after he had just started getting better, and for having Chun killed?]]
**Song as well.Song. Are her reasons for hating Frost [[spoiler: (as in, her sister being his first patient, and after her suicide, hearing him call her an experiment)]] utterly justified? Or are they blown out of proportion, especially as ten years have gone by since it happened.
** Moon. Is he an interesting, complex antagonist who may not be likable, but should be appreciated as a MagnificentBastard and well written character? Or is he a only a ManipulativeBastard who doubles as a HateSink after he [[spoiler: is revealed to have been involved in many homeless people committing suicide, definitely influenced Jeonghyun into committing suicide after he had just started getting better, and for having Chun killed?]]
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* JerkassWoobie: Song. [[spoiler: First, she grows up with a sister who has borderline personality disorder, who gets more attention from her parents than Seon. Then as they grow older, Seol begins to get more easily jealous whenever Seon gets close to a boy, and she steals away their attention too. And then when Seon is a student, her sister wants to get counseled by Frost, who is still a student himself. It doesn’t help that Seon has a crush on and also considers him a friend, and worried that Seol is only doing this to make her jealous. Then Seol makes another false suicide attempt, except this time, she can’t get ahold of Seon, and ends up dying. The final blow is when she overhears Frost talk about Seol and her suicide as little more than an experiment.]] In the end, she’s definitely allowed to hold a grudge.
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* JerkassWoobie: Song. She's not a jerkass, per se, but while Frost isn't very likable as a person, she hates him on another level.[[spoiler: First, she grows up with a sister who has borderline personality disorder, who gets more attention from her parents than Seon. Then as they grow older, Seol begins to get more easily jealous whenever Seon gets close to a boy, and she steals away their attention too. And then when Seon is a student, her sister wants to get counseled by Frost, who is still a student himself. It doesn’t help that Seon has a crush on and also considers him a friend, and worried that Seol is only doing this to make her jealous. Then Seol makes another false suicide attempt, except this time, she can’t get ahold of Seon, and ends up dying. The final blow is when she overhears Frost talk about Seol and her suicide as little more than an experiment.]] In the end, she’s definitely allowed to hold a grudge.grudge.
* MagnificentBastard: Frost fits this to a T with his plans to help clients. Moon can also be considered this, but in a darker light.
* ShockingSwerve: [[spoiler: Who would've guessed that Chun, despite being a MentorArchetype, would be [[MentorOccupationalHazard killed off?]]]]
* TearJerker: So, so many moments.
** "The Empty Man", the first episode, can be this, especially for readers who [[spoiler: had demanding parents like Mr. Oh, and who can relate to his feelings of emptiness.]]
** The reveals in "Tears of Princess Pyeong-Gang" [[spoiler: when it has the scene where Sihyun's step-mother, Ms. Kim, meets her for the first time and they immediately bond. Also, when they visit her father's lab, and Ms. Kim gets scarred on her face and loses an eye while trying to protect Sihyun, despite not being blood related.]]
** The entire arc when they get Pavlov.
** In "Happy Birthday, Dr. Frost", when [[spoiler: Chun is murdered.]]
* MagnificentBastard: Frost fits this to a T with his plans to help clients. Moon can also be considered this, but in a darker light.
* ShockingSwerve: [[spoiler: Who would've guessed that Chun, despite being a MentorArchetype, would be [[MentorOccupationalHazard killed off?]]]]
* TearJerker: So, so many moments.
** "The Empty Man", the first episode, can be this, especially for readers who [[spoiler: had demanding parents like Mr. Oh, and who can relate to his feelings of emptiness.]]
** The reveals in "Tears of Princess Pyeong-Gang" [[spoiler: when it has the scene where Sihyun's step-mother, Ms. Kim, meets her for the first time and they immediately bond. Also, when they visit her father's lab, and Ms. Kim gets scarred on her face and loses an eye while trying to protect Sihyun, despite not being blood related.]]
** The entire arc when they get Pavlov.
** In "Happy Birthday, Dr. Frost", when [[spoiler: Chun is murdered.]]
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* BaseBreakingCharacter: Moon. Is he an interesting, complex antagonist who may not be likable, but should be appreciated as a MagnificentBastard and well written character? Or is he a only a ManipulativeBastard who doubles as a HateSink after he [[spoiler: is revealed to have been involved in many homeless people committing suicide, definitely influenced Jeonghyun into committing suicide after he had just started getting better, and for having Chun killed?]]
** Song as well. Are her reasons for hating Frost [[spoiler: (as in, her sister being his first patient, and after her suicide, hearing him call her an experiment)]] utterly justified? Or are they blown out of proportion, especially as ten years have gone by since it happened.
* BrokenBase: The fact that this went from a psychological mystery series into a near crime drama. People are still wondering whether the shift was a good thing or not.
* CompleteMonster: Moon. [[spoiler: His affable demeanor and seemingly altruistic goals make him a well loved, respected, and famed psychologist. But he uses people for his experiments, and has talked people into committing suicide without batting an eye, making him a psychological murderer. He also treats suicide like a game, and isn’t above indirectly have people murdered.]]
* EnsembleDarkhorse: After his introduction, try and find a top comment that doesn’t mention Pavlov in some way or another.
* FanPreferredCouple: Similar to the EnsembleDarkhorse, try to find another top comment that doesn’t mention the Frost X Yoon ship. From the beginning, people have shipped them, despite the age gap and Frost’s LackOfEmpathy. [[spoiler: You can imagine the shippers’ imaginations going wild when a photo that was implied to be of Frost as a child with his family emerged, with the mom looking [[LikeParentLikeSpouse an awful lot like Seonga.]]]]
* GeniusBonus: Needless to say, if you’re a psychologist, or a psychology student, you will likely pick up on smaller clues than the general audience.
* JerkassWoobie: Song. [[spoiler: First, she grows up with a sister who has borderline personality disorder, who gets more attention from her parents than Seon. Then as they grow older, Seol begins to get more easily jealous whenever Seon gets close to a boy, and she steals away their attention too. And then when Seon is a student, her sister wants to get counseled by Frost, who is still a student himself. It doesn’t help that Seon has a crush on and also considers him a friend, and worried that Seol is only doing this to make her jealous. Then Seol makes another false suicide attempt, except this time, she can’t get ahold of Seon, and ends up dying. The final blow is when she overhears Frost talk about Seol and her suicide as little more than an experiment.]] In the end, she’s definitely allowed to hold a grudge.
** Song as well. Are her reasons for hating Frost [[spoiler: (as in, her sister being his first patient, and after her suicide, hearing him call her an experiment)]] utterly justified? Or are they blown out of proportion, especially as ten years have gone by since it happened.
* BrokenBase: The fact that this went from a psychological mystery series into a near crime drama. People are still wondering whether the shift was a good thing or not.
* CompleteMonster: Moon. [[spoiler: His affable demeanor and seemingly altruistic goals make him a well loved, respected, and famed psychologist. But he uses people for his experiments, and has talked people into committing suicide without batting an eye, making him a psychological murderer. He also treats suicide like a game, and isn’t above indirectly have people murdered.]]
* EnsembleDarkhorse: After his introduction, try and find a top comment that doesn’t mention Pavlov in some way or another.
* FanPreferredCouple: Similar to the EnsembleDarkhorse, try to find another top comment that doesn’t mention the Frost X Yoon ship. From the beginning, people have shipped them, despite the age gap and Frost’s LackOfEmpathy. [[spoiler: You can imagine the shippers’ imaginations going wild when a photo that was implied to be of Frost as a child with his family emerged, with the mom looking [[LikeParentLikeSpouse an awful lot like Seonga.]]]]
* GeniusBonus: Needless to say, if you’re a psychologist, or a psychology student, you will likely pick up on smaller clues than the general audience.
* JerkassWoobie: Song. [[spoiler: First, she grows up with a sister who has borderline personality disorder, who gets more attention from her parents than Seon. Then as they grow older, Seol begins to get more easily jealous whenever Seon gets close to a boy, and she steals away their attention too. And then when Seon is a student, her sister wants to get counseled by Frost, who is still a student himself. It doesn’t help that Seon has a crush on and also considers him a friend, and worried that Seol is only doing this to make her jealous. Then Seol makes another false suicide attempt, except this time, she can’t get ahold of Seon, and ends up dying. The final blow is when she overhears Frost talk about Seol and her suicide as little more than an experiment.]] In the end, she’s definitely allowed to hold a grudge.
