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True Art Is Incomprehensible is now an in-universe trope as per TRS.


* TrueArtIsIncomprehensible - sometimes ventures into type two, the lyrics are filled with obscure symbolism that may or may not be hard to understand depending on how familiar you are with Douglas' literary and cultural influences
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* MusicToInvadePolandTo - Subverted: DI6 has often been tarred with Nazi accusations along with the rest of the neofolk genre from time to time, including getting banned from playing in several cities. Not only is Douglas gay, his first band, Crisis, was openly left-wing, and his fascination with the Third Reich is more about exploring the horrible aspects of humanity (as well as his [[AuthorAppeal personal fetish]] for [[NightmareFetishist fascist aesthetics]]) than an actual political statement. This is supported by Douglas' claim to have read more of ''[[Creator/KarlMarx Das Kapital]]'' than ''[[UsefulNotes/AdolfHitler Mein Kampf]]'' as well as the fact that DI6 has played shows in {{UsefulNotes/Israel}}, with some DI6 merch even being manufactured there.

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* MusicToInvadePolandTo - Subverted: DI6 Death in June has often been tarred with Nazi accusations along with the rest of the neofolk genre from time to time, including getting banned from playing in several cities. Not only is Douglas gay, his first band, Crisis, was openly left-wing, and his fascination with the Third Reich is more about exploring the horrible aspects of humanity (as well as his [[AuthorAppeal personal fetish]] for [[NightmareFetishist fascist aesthetics]]) than an actual political statement. This is supported by Douglas' claim to have read more of ''[[Creator/KarlMarx Das Kapital]]'' than ''[[UsefulNotes/AdolfHitler Mein Kampf]]'' as well as the fact that DI6 Death In June has played shows in {{UsefulNotes/Israel}}, with some DI6 Death In June merch even being manufactured there.
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* MusicToInvadePolandTo - Gets tarred with Nazi accusations along with the rest of the neofolk genre from time to time, including getting banned from playing in several cities. Not only is Douglas gay, his first band, Crisis, was openly left-wing, and his fascination with the Third Reich is more about exploring the horrible aspects of humanity (as well as his [[AuthorAppeal personal fetish]] for [[NightmareFetishist fascist aesthetics]]) than an actual political statement.

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* MusicToInvadePolandTo - Gets Subverted: DI6 has often been tarred with Nazi accusations along with the rest of the neofolk genre from time to time, including getting banned from playing in several cities. Not only is Douglas gay, his first band, Crisis, was openly left-wing, and his fascination with the Third Reich is more about exploring the horrible aspects of humanity (as well as his [[AuthorAppeal personal fetish]] for [[NightmareFetishist fascist aesthetics]]) than an actual political statement. This is supported by Douglas' claim to have read more of ''[[Creator/KarlMarx Das Kapital]]'' than ''[[UsefulNotes/AdolfHitler Mein Kampf]]'' as well as the fact that DI6 has played shows in {{UsefulNotes/Israel}}, with some DI6 merch even being manufactured there.
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* MusicToInvadePolandTo - Gets tarred with Nazi accusations along with the rest of the neofolk genre from time to time, including getting banned from playing in several cities. Not only is Douglas gay, his first band, Crisis, was openly left-wing, and his fascination with the Third Reich is more about exploring the horrible aspects of humanity than an actual political statement.

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* MusicToInvadePolandTo - Gets tarred with Nazi accusations along with the rest of the neofolk genre from time to time, including getting banned from playing in several cities. Not only is Douglas gay, his first band, Crisis, was openly left-wing, and his fascination with the Third Reich is more about exploring the horrible aspects of humanity (as well as his [[AuthorAppeal personal fetish]] for [[NightmareFetishist fascist aesthetics]]) than an actual political statement.
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Removing misuse. And seems close to troping real people.


* {{Misblamed}} - It was once rumored that Douglas P.'s alleged extremist views drove the original band members out, leaving Douglas to be the sole force behind Death In June. In actuality, guitarist Tony Wakeford developed an interest in far-right wing politics that caused Douglas to fire him, a period of time that Wakeford [[OldShame deeply regrets]] and [[BerserkButton wants nothing to do with anyone involved in such things.]]

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* {{Misblamed}} - It was once rumored that Douglas P.'s alleged extremist views drove the original band members out, leaving Douglas to be the sole force behind Death In June. In actuality, guitarist Tony Wakeford developed an interest in far-right wing politics that caused Douglas to fire him, a period of time that Wakeford [[OldShame deeply regrets]] and [[BerserkButton wants nothing to do with anyone involved in such things.]]
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Scary Musician Harmless Music is not YMMV. Also removing zce


* ScaryMusicianHarmlessMusic - Both inverted and played straight: Much of Death in June's discography is quite gentle considering the controversy it attracts. But at the same time, he's got a knack for dark musical themes and the occasional bleak, unsettling soundscape--and yet, behind the masks and fringed helmets Douglas P. is a very soft spoken, polite, even funny man.
* TearJerker - "Peaceful Snow"
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* WhatDoYouMeanItsNotPoliticalWhatDoYouMeanItsNotPolitical - A few cases, given Pearce's oblique wordplay and the more overt aversions of this in some of his works.
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* ScaryMusicianHarmlessMusic - much of Death in June's discography is quite gentle considering the controversy it attracts. Behind the masks and fringed helmets Douglas P. is a very soft spoken, polite, even funny man.

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* ScaryMusicianHarmlessMusic - much Both inverted and played straight: Much of Death in June's discography is quite gentle considering the controversy it attracts. Behind But at the same time, he's got a knack for dark musical themes and the occasional bleak, unsettling soundscape--and yet, behind the masks and fringed helmets Douglas P. is a very soft spoken, polite, even funny man.



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Not the time, not the place, all your information is from a website called \"Who Makes the Nazis,\" which in itself casts loads of doubt, i don\'t know what you are trying to prove here but would you please be so kind as to go try to prove it elsewhere.


** However, Pearce has made [[http://www.whomakesthenazis.com/2013/09/queers-to-shut-down-death-in-june-in.html ridiculously bigoted, racist, xenophobic and Eurocentric statements in the past]], [[http://www.whomakesthenazis.com/2012/11/james-cavanagh-death-in-june-coming-to.html dabbled hard enough with Nazi imagery and has had way too many connections to neo-Nazis]]. Furthermore, the band's name comes from the Night of the Long Knives, their album ''The Brown Book'' [[http://www.whomakesthenazis.com/2010/11/what-ends-when-symbols-shatter-my-time.html includes a cover of the "Horst Wessel Lied"]], along with a [[http://www.whomakesthenazis.com/2012/11/james-cavanagh-death-in-june-coming-to.html coy statement about how to order it for German fans]], [[http://www.whomakesthenazis.com/2010/09/peter-webb-investigates.html the lyrics of "C'est Un Rêve" imply that Nazi war criminal Klaus Barbie is in everyone's hearts, and the lyrics of "Rose Clouds of the Holocaust" include the lines "Rose clouds of Holocaust/ Rose clouds of lies/ Rose clouds of bitter/ Bitter, bitter lies"]], which got the album banned in Germany for Holocaust denial. So, really, he's just spewing self-serving bullshit trying to whitewash and deny what his "fascination" with the Third Reich actually entails.

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moar evidence


** However, Pearce has made [[http://www.whomakesthenazis.com/2013/09/queers-to-shut-down-death-in-june-in.html ridiculously bigoted, racist, xenophobic and Eurocentric statements in the past]], [[http://www.whomakesthenazis.com/2012/11/james-cavanagh-death-in-june-coming-to.html dabbled hard enough with Nazi imagery and has had way too many connections to neo-Nazis]]. Furthermore, the band's name comes from the Night of the Long Knives, and their album ''The Brown Book'' [[http://www.whomakesthenazis.com/2010/11/what-ends-when-symbols-shatter-my-time.html includes a cover of the "Horst Wessel Lied"]], along with a [[http://www.whomakesthenazis.com/2012/11/james-cavanagh-death-in-june-coming-to.html coy statement about how to order it for German fans]]. So his protests that his fascination with the Third Reich is purely non-political is self-serving bullshit.

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** However, Pearce has made [[http://www.whomakesthenazis.com/2013/09/queers-to-shut-down-death-in-june-in.html ridiculously bigoted, racist, xenophobic and Eurocentric statements in the past]], [[http://www.whomakesthenazis.com/2012/11/james-cavanagh-death-in-june-coming-to.html dabbled hard enough with Nazi imagery and has had way too many connections to neo-Nazis]]. Furthermore, the band's name comes from the Night of the Long Knives, and their album ''The Brown Book'' [[http://www.whomakesthenazis.com/2010/11/what-ends-when-symbols-shatter-my-time.html includes a cover of the "Horst Wessel Lied"]], along with a [[http://www.whomakesthenazis.com/2012/11/james-cavanagh-death-in-june-coming-to.html coy statement about how to order it for German fans]]. So his protests fans]], [[http://www.whomakesthenazis.com/2010/09/peter-webb-investigates.html the lyrics of "C'est Un Rêve" imply that Nazi war criminal Klaus Barbie is in everyone's hearts, and the lyrics of "Rose Clouds of the Holocaust" include the lines "Rose clouds of Holocaust/ Rose clouds of lies/ Rose clouds of bitter/ Bitter, bitter lies"]], which got the album banned in Germany for Holocaust denial. So, really, he's just spewing self-serving bullshit trying to whitewash and deny what his fascination "fascination" with the Third Reich is purely non-political is self-serving bullshit.actually entails.

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** However, Pearce has made [[http://www.whomakesthenazis.com/2013/09/queers-to-shut-down-death-in-june-in.html ridiculously bigoted, racist, xenophobic and Eurocentric statements in the past]], [[http://www.whomakesthenazis.com/2012/11/james-cavanagh-death-in-june-coming-to.html dabbled hard enough with Nazi imagery and has had way too many connections to neo-Nazis]]. Furthermore, the band's name comes from the Night of the Long Knives, and their album ''The Brown Book'' [[http://www.whomakesthenazis.com/2010/11/what-ends-when-symbols-shatter-my-time.html includes a cover of the "Horst Wessel Lied"]], along with a [[http://www.whomakesthenazis.com/2012/11/james-cavanagh-death-in-june-coming-to.html coy statement about how to order it for German fans]]. So his protests that his fascination with the Third Reich is purely about the horrible aspects of humanity is to some extent self-serving bullshit.

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** However, Pearce has made [[http://www.whomakesthenazis.com/2013/09/queers-to-shut-down-death-in-june-in.html ridiculously bigoted, racist, xenophobic and Eurocentric statements in the past]], [[http://www.whomakesthenazis.com/2012/11/james-cavanagh-death-in-june-coming-to.html dabbled hard enough with Nazi imagery and has had way too many connections to neo-Nazis]]. Furthermore, the band's name comes from the Night of the Long Knives, and their album ''The Brown Book'' [[http://www.whomakesthenazis.com/2010/11/what-ends-when-symbols-shatter-my-time.html includes a cover of the "Horst Wessel Lied"]], along with a [[http://www.whomakesthenazis.com/2012/11/james-cavanagh-death-in-june-coming-to.html coy statement about how to order it for German fans]]. So his protests that his fascination with the Third Reich is purely about the horrible aspects of humanity non-political is to some extent self-serving bullshit.
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** However, Pearce has made [[http://www.whomakesthenazis.com/2013/09/queers-to-shut-down-death-in-june-in.html ridiculously bigoted, racist, xenophobic and Eurocentric statements in the past]], [[http://www.whomakesthenazis.com/2012/11/james-cavanagh-death-in-june-coming-to.html dabbled hard enough with Nazi imagery and has had way too many connections to neo-Nazis]]. Furthermore, the band's name comes from the Night of the Long Knives, and their album ''The Brown Book'' [[http://www.whomakesthenazis.com/2010/11/what-ends-when-symbols-shatter-my-time.html includes a cover of the "Horst Wessel Lied"]], along with a [[http://www.whomakesthenazis.com/2012/11/james-cavanagh-death-in-june-coming-to.html coy statement about how to order it for German fans]]. So his protests that his fascination with the Third Reich is purely about the horrible aspects of humanity is to some extent self-serving bullshit.

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* {{Misblamed}} - It was once rumored that Douglas P.'s alleged extremist views drove the original band members out, leaving Douglas to be the sole force behind Death In June. In actuality, guitarist Tony Wakeford developed an interest in far-right wing politics that caused Douglas to fire him, a period of time that Wakeford [[OldShame deeply regrets]] and [[BerserkButton wants nothing to do with anyone involved in such things.]]
* MusicToInvadePolandTo - Gets tarred with Nazi accusations along with the rest of the neofolk genre from time to time, including getting banned from playing in several cities. Not only is Douglas gay, his first band, Crisis, was openly left-wing, and his fascination with the Third Reich is more about exploring the horrible aspects of humanity than an actual political statement.



* MusicToInvadePolandTo - Gets tarred with Nazi accusations along with the rest of the neofolk genre from time to time, including getting banned from playing in several cities. Not only is Douglas gay, his first band, Crisis, was openly left-wing, and his fascination with the Third Reich is more about exploring the horrible aspects of humanity than an actual political statement.

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* TrueArtIsIncomprehensible - sometimes ventures into type two, the lyrics are filled with obscure symbolism that may or may not be hard to understand depending on how familiar you are with Douglas' literary and cultural influences
* WhatDoYouMeanItsNotPolitical
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* NightmareFuel - "Take Care and Control" was a departure from their neofolk sound and into experimental, dark ambient, and martial industrial, with tons of samples. The results are rather creepy.
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* TearJerker - "Peaceful Snow"
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* ScaryMusicianHarmlessMusic - much of Death in June's discography is quite gentle considering the controversy it attracts. Behind the masks and fringed helmets Douglas P. is a very soft spoken, polite, even funny man.
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* MusicToInvadePolandTo - Gets tarred with Nazi accusations along with the rest of the neofolk genre from time to time, including getting banned from playing in several cities. Not only is Douglas gay, his first band, Crisis, was openly left-wing, and his fascination with the Third Reich is more about exploring the horrible aspects of humanity than an actual political statement.

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* MusicToInvadePolandTo - Gets tarred with Nazi accusations along with the rest of the neofolk genre from time to time, including getting banned from playing in several cities. Not only is Douglas gay, his first band, Crisis, was openly left-wing, and his fascination with the Third Reich is more about exploring the horrible aspects of humanity than an actual political statement.statement.
* WhatDoYouMeanItsNotPolitical
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* MusicToInvadePolandTo - Gets tarred with Nazi accusations along with the rest of the neofolk genre from time to time, including getting banned from playing in several cities. Not only is Douglas gay, his first band, Crisis, was openly left-wing, and his fascination with the Third Reich is more about exploring the horrible aspects of humanity than an actual political statement.

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