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* IKnewIt: There was speculation and guessing that the main series was [[spoiler:going to jump start the upcoming ''[[ComicBook/{{Earth2}} Earth-2: Society]]'' book, and they were right]].
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** Ultimately, the biggest Throw was made at the very end; [[spoiler: ''ComicBook/CrisisOnInfiniteEarths'' is undone, allowing ''all'' universes to exist once more. ''All'' of our favorite characters, even if some of them are changed, are now free to have stories told of them]].

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** Ultimately, the biggest Throw salvage was made at the very end; [[spoiler: ''ComicBook/CrisisOnInfiniteEarths'' is undone, allowing ''all'' universes to exist once more. ''All'' of our favorite characters, even if some of them are changed, are now free to have stories told of them]].
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* SalvagedStory: The event seems like this trope personified, to the extent that some have called it "A love letter to the fans."
** The event is a series of stories revolving around various past versions of DC's characters, who have been plucked from the timestream by ComicBook/{{Brainiac}}. The general sense seems to be that DC wanted to go back and give a satisfactory send-off to the Pre-New 52 timeline, as well as answer some complaints (with the writer of the ''Titans'' tie-in explicitly saying he wanted to reverse the horrible things that had been done to Arsenal and Lian during and after ''[[ComicBook/JusticeLeagueCryForJustice Cry For Justice]]''). Plot points include:
*** [[ComicBook/{{Batgirl2009}} Stephanie Brown]] and the returned [[ComicBook/{{Batgirl2000}} Cassandra Cain]] fighting crime together as Batgirl and Black Bat.
*** The beloved Wolfman/Perez-era Comicbook/TeenTitans being featured (rather than one of the more recent, controversial incarnations) with the creators promising to follow up on a storyline between Kole and Jericho that originally went nowhere. ComicBook/{{Starfire}} and ComicBook/{{Nightwing}} are also married at last, which in itself made the fandom rejoice.
*** Barbara Gordon as [[ComicBook/BirdsOfPrey Oracle]] once again, still in a wheelchair, and now married to ComicBook/{{Nightwing}}.
*** Arsenal trying to set his life right, working through his addiction, and working with the ''real'' Titans again.
*** [[ComicBook/WonderGirl Donna Troy back as Troia]] alongside Starfire and Arsenal.
*** Lian Harper and [[ComicBook/TheAtom Ryan Choi]] coming back to life.
*** Deathstroke finally getting what he deserves after avoiding any retribution for murdering Ryan Choi.
*** Renee Montoya is back as the Question and teams up with ComicBook/{{Huntress}} (Helena Bertinelli) and ComicBook/{{Batwoman}}.
*** ComicBook/{{Superman}} still being in a loving marriage to ComicBook/LoisLane. [[spoiler:They even have a son together.]]
*** Wally West as Franchise/TheFlash again and reunited with his children Iris and Jai, who are back to their former powersets.
*** [[ComicBook/BlueBeetle Ted Kord]] being alive again as part of the ComicBook/JusticeLeagueInternational.
*** The Golden Age Superman and ComicBook/JusticeSocietyOfAmerica coming back, alongside a restored Infinity Inc.
*** Amanda Waller back to her original body type, and in charge of a ComicBook/SuicideSquad similar to its early days.
*** Comicbook/{{Superboy}} back to being FunPersonified (erasing his angsty DarkerAndEdgier days), and having a costume proper like in his pre-Teen Titans [[ComicBook/Superboy1994 incarnation]], with [[AdaptationalBadass a power boost]] to boot!
*** Wacky, fan-favorite characters like ComicBook/AmbushBug have returned.
*** ComicBook/ElongatedMan and Sue Dibny alive and married.
*** Earth-S's [[ComicBook/{{Shazam}} Captain Marvel]], for those who don't like the ComicBook/{{New 52}}'s DarkerAndEdgier "Shazam".
*** ComicBook/CaptainCarrotAndHisAmazingZooCrew had been restored from [[AndIMustScream non-funny animal form]] by ''ComicBook/FinalCrisis'', but ''only'' the Zoo Crew, with most of the rest of Earth-C's land-dwellers dead and the handful of survivors still trapped as normal animals. Earth-C has now been completely restored.
** Ultimately, the biggest Throw was made at the very end; [[spoiler: ''ComicBook/CrisisOnInfiniteEarths'' is undone, allowing ''all'' universes to exist once more. ''All'' of our favorite characters, even if some of them are changed, are now free to have stories told of them]].
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* BrokenBase: The ending of ''Convergence'' #8 has sparked a lot of debate among fans. Some say that the original multiverse is back and infinite now, while others see the art as depicting the ComicBook/{{New 52}} multiverse as an evolved version of the old one. DC has not been clear in this regard, with author Jeff King stating that everything ever published is now in continuity and out there somewhere, while Dan [=DiDio=] seems to view the ending differently than King, but won't be too precise, preferring to let fans debate. At this point, it's going to take further published stories to clarify the situation.
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* AngstWhatAngst: Subverted with Lian Harper. She's understandably freaked out when Dreamslayer summons her in ''Convergence: Titans'' but she manages to roll with everything that happens after Arsenal saves her. She doesn't even seem fazed by the fact that, since the last time she saw her father (which to her had just been earlier in her day), he now has a prosthetic arm.
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* AuthorsSavingThrow: The event seems like this trope personified, to the extent that some have called it "A love letter to the fans."
** The event is a series of stories revolving around various past versions of DC's characters, who have been plucked from the timestream by ComicBook/{{Brainiac}}. The general sense seems to be that DC wanted to go back and give a satisfactory send-off to the Pre-New 52 timeline, as well as answer some complaints (with the writer of the ''Titans'' tie-in explicitly saying he wanted to reverse the horrible things that had been done to Arsenal and Lian during and after ''[[ComicBook/JusticeLeagueCryForJustice Cry For Justice]]''). Plot points include:
*** [[ComicBook/{{Batgirl2009}} Stephanie Brown]] and the returned [[ComicBook/{{Batgirl2000}} Cassandra Cain]] fighting crime together as Batgirl and Black Bat.
*** The beloved Wolfman/Perez-era Comicbook/TeenTitans being featured (rather than one of the more recent, controversial incarnations) with the creators promising to follow up on a storyline between Kole and Jericho that originally went nowhere. ComicBook/{{Starfire}} and ComicBook/{{Nightwing}} are also married at last, which in itself made the fandom rejoice.
*** Barbara Gordon as [[ComicBook/BirdsOfPrey Oracle]] once again, still in a wheelchair, and now married to ComicBook/{{Nightwing}}.
*** Arsenal trying to set his life right, working through his addiction, and working with the ''real'' Titans again.
*** [[ComicBook/WonderGirl Donna Troy back as Troia]] alongside Starfire and Arsenal.
*** Lian Harper and [[ComicBook/TheAtom Ryan Choi]] coming back to life.
*** Deathstroke finally getting what he deserves after avoiding any retribution for murdering Ryan Choi.
*** Renee Montoya is back as the Question and teams up with ComicBook/{{Huntress}} (Helena Bertinelli) and ComicBook/{{Batwoman}}.
*** ComicBook/{{Superman}} still being in a loving marriage to ComicBook/LoisLane. [[spoiler:They even have a son together.]]
*** Wally West as Franchise/TheFlash again and reunited with his children Iris and Jai, who are back to their former powersets.
*** [[ComicBook/BlueBeetle Ted Kord]] being alive again as part of the ComicBook/JusticeLeagueInternational.
*** The Golden Age Superman and ComicBook/JusticeSocietyOfAmerica coming back, alongside a restored Infinity Inc.
*** Amanda Waller back to her original body type, and in charge of a ComicBook/SuicideSquad similar to its early days.
*** Comicbook/{{Superboy}} back to being FunPersonified (erasing his angsty DarkerAndEdgier days), and having a costume proper like in his pre-Teen Titans [[ComicBook/Superboy1994 incarnation]], with [[AdaptationalBadass a power boost]] to boot!
*** Wacky, fan-favorite characters like ComicBook/AmbushBug have returned.
*** ComicBook/ElongatedMan and Sue Dibny alive and married.
*** Earth-S's [[ComicBook/{{Shazam}} Captain Marvel]], for those who don't like the ComicBook/{{New 52}}'s DarkerAndEdgier "Shazam".
*** ComicBook/CaptainCarrotAndHisAmazingZooCrew had been restored from [[AndIMustScream non-funny animal form]] by ''ComicBook/FinalCrisis'', but ''only'' the Zoo Crew, with most of the rest of Earth-C's land-dwellers dead and the handful of survivors still trapped as normal animals. Earth-C has now been completely restored.
** Ultimately, the biggest Throw was made at the very end; [[spoiler: ''ComicBook/CrisisOnInfiniteEarths'' is undone, allowing ''all'' universes to exist once more. ''All'' of our favorite characters, even if some of them are changed, are now free to have stories told of them]].
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* CriticalResearchFailure: Some of the statements made by and about alternative versions of characters are simply not accurate. A good example would be Flashpoint Wonder Woman, who is treated as a violent, power mad despot who doesn't believe in love. Flashpoint!Wonder Woman was heavily manipulated by her friends and family for years and a lot of the atrocities attributed to the Amazons in that event were done without her knowledge, she even tried to stop the war in the end! Exchanges between her and others in Convergence read like they were written by someone who only saw the Flashpoint movie or skimmed through the book.
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* IdiotPlot: ''Convergence: ComicBook/{{Superboy|1994}}'' #1 & #2 work on this principle. Superboy is set against the ''ComicBook/KingdomCome'' Superman, Flash and Red Robin. The latter three attack Superboy without saying a word edgewise and then suddenly say they come in peace. Naturally, Superboy doesn't buy it. The book then goes into detail about how Superboy is in the wrong because he refuses to give up or surrender to the KC heroes. Except... he has a point. All Superboy knows is that whoever took their cities hostage has stated that anyone who loses their fight will see their city destroyed, so he's fighting just as much from anger as fear. He also has no reason to believe anything Superman tells him, because for all he knows, this is an evil counterpart or something. When Superboy flat out states all of this, the characters still treat his misgivings as selfish and wrong because the three older KC heroes supposedly have a better chance at saving everyone. But, yet again, he has no reason to trust them.
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*** ComicBook/CaptainCarrotAndHisAmazingZooCrew had been restored from [[IHaveNoMouthAndIMustScream non-funny animal form]] by ''ComicBook/FinalCrisis'', but ''only'' the Zoo Crew, with most of the rest of Earth-C's land-dwellers dead and the handful of survivors still trapped as normal animals. Earth-C has now been completely restored.

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*** ComicBook/CaptainCarrotAndHisAmazingZooCrew had been restored from [[IHaveNoMouthAndIMustScream [[AndIMustScream non-funny animal form]] by ''ComicBook/FinalCrisis'', but ''only'' the Zoo Crew, with most of the rest of Earth-C's land-dwellers dead and the handful of survivors still trapped as normal animals. Earth-C has now been completely restored.

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* MemeticMutation: Telos, one of the main characters of the event, saw an apparent attempt by DC [[ThisIsGonnaBeHuge to push him as a sensational new find]]--going so far as to give him a miniseries that debuted five months after ''Convergence'' had wrapped up. Said miniseries then bombed hard. Most of the fandom found the attempt to push the character baffling, and so turned him into a MemeticBadass out of sheer sarcasm: ''obviously'', Telos got a solo series before characters like the Justice Society or Shazam, because he's the most popular and successful character DC has ever created! Consequently, jokes about Telos being DC's greatest A-lister and his miniseries being more popular than the Bible are rather common whenever he's mentioned.

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* MemeticMutation: Telos, one of the main characters of the event, saw an apparent attempt by DC [[ThisIsGonnaBeHuge [[ThisIsGoingToBeHuge to push him as a sensational new find]]--going so far as to give him a miniseries that debuted five months after ''Convergence'' had wrapped up. Said miniseries then bombed hard. Most of the fandom found the attempt to push the character baffling, and so turned him into a MemeticBadass out of sheer sarcasm: ''obviously'', Telos got a solo series before characters like the Justice Society or Shazam, because he's the most popular and successful character DC has ever created! Consequently, jokes about Telos being DC's greatest A-lister and his miniseries being more popular than the Bible are rather common whenever he's mentioned.mentioned, and writer Jeff King stopped doing comics afterward because he realized he could never match his masterpiece.
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* MemeticMutation: Telos, one of the main characters of the event, saw an apparent attempt by DC [[ThisIsGonnaBeHuge to push him as a sensational new find]]--going so far as to give him a miniseries that debuted five months after ''Convergence'' had wrapped up. Said miniseries then bombed hard. Most of the fandom found the attempt to push the character baffling, and so turned him into a MemeticBadass out of sheer sarcasm: ''obviously'', Telos got a solo series before characters like the Justice Society or Shazam, because he's the most popular and successful character DC has ever created! Consequently, jokes about Telos being DC's greatest A-lister and his miniseries being more popular than the Bible are rather common whenever he's mentioned.
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* FanPreferredCouple: Many of these pairings that aren't in the New 52 will be revisited, including [[Comicbook/{{Superman}} Clark Kent and Lois Lane]], [[Franchise/TheFlash Wally West and Linda Park]], and [[Comicbook/{{Nightwing}} Dick Grayson]] with ''both'' [[Comicbook/{{Batgirl}} Barbara Gordon]] ''and'' Comicbook/{{Starfire}} (in separate universes). Stephanie Brown and [[Comicbook/RobinSeries Tim Drake]] share some BelligerentSexualTension as well.

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* FanPreferredCouple: Many of these pairings that aren't in the New 52 will be revisited, including [[Comicbook/{{Superman}} Clark Kent and Lois Lane]], [[Franchise/TheFlash Wally West and Linda Park]], and [[Comicbook/{{Nightwing}} Dick Grayson]] with ''both'' [[Comicbook/{{Batgirl}} Barbara Gordon]] ''and'' Comicbook/{{Starfire}} (in separate universes). Stephanie Brown and [[Comicbook/RobinSeries [[Comicbook/{{Robin}} Tim Drake]] share some BelligerentSexualTension as well.
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* FanPreferredCouple: Many of these pairings that aren't in the New 52 will be revisited, including [[Comicbook/{{Superman}} Clark Kent and Lois Lane]], [[Comicbook/TheFlash Wally West and Linda Park]], and [[Comicbook/{{Nightwing}} Dick Grayson]] with ''both'' [[Comicbook/{{Batgirl}} Barbara Gordon]] ''and'' Comicbook/{{Starfire}} (in separate universes). Stephanie Brown and [[Comicbook/RobinSeries Tim Drake]] share some BelligerentSexualTension as well.

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* FanPreferredCouple: Many of these pairings that aren't in the New 52 will be revisited, including [[Comicbook/{{Superman}} Clark Kent and Lois Lane]], [[Comicbook/TheFlash [[Franchise/TheFlash Wally West and Linda Park]], and [[Comicbook/{{Nightwing}} Dick Grayson]] with ''both'' [[Comicbook/{{Batgirl}} Barbara Gordon]] ''and'' Comicbook/{{Starfire}} (in separate universes). Stephanie Brown and [[Comicbook/RobinSeries Tim Drake]] share some BelligerentSexualTension as well.
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*** Wally West as ComicBook/TheFlash again and reunited with his children Iris and Jai, who are back to their former powersets.

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*** Wally West as ComicBook/TheFlash Franchise/TheFlash again and reunited with his children Iris and Jai, who are back to their former powersets.



* FanPreferredCouple: Many of these pairings that aren't in the New 52 will be revisited, including [[Comicbook/{{Superman}} Clark Kent and Lois Lane]], [[Comicbook/TheFlash Wally West and Linda Park]], and [[Comicbook/{{Nightwing}} Dick Grayson]] with ''both'' [[Comicbook/{{Batgirl}} Barbara Gordon]] ''and'' [[Comicbook/{{Starfire}} Starfire]] (in separate universes). Stephanie Brown and [[Comicbook/RobinSeries Tim Drake]] share some BelligerentSexualTension as well.

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* FanPreferredCouple: Many of these pairings that aren't in the New 52 will be revisited, including [[Comicbook/{{Superman}} Clark Kent and Lois Lane]], [[Comicbook/TheFlash Wally West and Linda Park]], and [[Comicbook/{{Nightwing}} Dick Grayson]] with ''both'' [[Comicbook/{{Batgirl}} Barbara Gordon]] ''and'' [[Comicbook/{{Starfire}} Starfire]] Comicbook/{{Starfire}} (in separate universes). Stephanie Brown and [[Comicbook/RobinSeries Tim Drake]] share some BelligerentSexualTension as well.



** In ''Convergence: The Question'', there's a rather similar situation between [[Comicbook/TheQuestion Renee Montoya]] and [[Comicbook/{{Huntress}} Helena Bertinelli]], who are also living together, and talk to one another like a married couple. It's likely a MythologyGag to the ''[[WesternAnimation/JusticeLeague Justice League Unlimited]]'' cartoon, in which Helena and Vic Sage, who's Renee male predecessor in The Question mantle, were a couple.

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** In ''Convergence: The Question'', there's a rather similar situation between [[Comicbook/TheQuestion Renee Montoya]] and [[Comicbook/{{Huntress}} Helena Bertinelli]], who are also living together, and talk to one another like a married couple. It's likely a MythologyGag to the ''[[WesternAnimation/JusticeLeague Justice League Unlimited]]'' ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeague'' cartoon, in which Helena and Vic Sage, who's Renee male predecessor in The Question mantle, were a couple.
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* ContinuityLockOut: The main line of Convergence is a direct sequel to the New 52's Earth 2 series. So if you've never picked up one of those books, you won't understand what's happening.
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* CriticalResearchFailure: Some of the statements made by and about alternative versions of characters are simply not accurate. A good example would be Flashpoint Wonder Woman, who is treated as a violent, power mad despot who doesn't believe in love. Flashpoint!Wonder Woman was heavily manipulated by her friends and family for years and a lot of the atrocities attributed to the Amazons in that event were done without her knowledge, she even tried to stop the war in the end! Exchanges between her and others in Convergence read like they were written by someone who only saw the Flashpoint movie or skimmed through the book.
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* FanPreferredCouple: Many of these pairings that aren't in the New 52 will be revisited, including [[Comicbook/{{Superman}} Clark Kent and Lois Lane]], [[Comicbook/TheFlash Wally West and Linda Park]], and [[Comicbook/{{Nightwing}} Dick Grayson]] with ''both'' [[Comicbook/{{Batgirl}} Barbara Gordon]] ''and'' [[Comicbook/{{Starfire}}]] (in separate universes). Stephanie Brown and [[Comicbook/RobinSeries Tim Drake]] share some BelligerentSexualTension as well.

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* FanPreferredCouple: Many of these pairings that aren't in the New 52 will be revisited, including [[Comicbook/{{Superman}} Clark Kent and Lois Lane]], [[Comicbook/TheFlash Wally West and Linda Park]], and [[Comicbook/{{Nightwing}} Dick Grayson]] with ''both'' [[Comicbook/{{Batgirl}} Barbara Gordon]] ''and'' [[Comicbook/{{Starfire}}]] [[Comicbook/{{Starfire}} Starfire]] (in separate universes). Stephanie Brown and [[Comicbook/RobinSeries Tim Drake]] share some BelligerentSexualTension as well.

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*** The beloved Wolfman/Perez-era Comicbook/TeenTitans being featured (rather than one of the more recent, controversial incarnations) with the creators promising to follow up on a storyline between Kole and Jericho that originally went nowhere. ComicBook/{{Starfire}} and ComicBook/{{Nightwing}} are also married at last, which in itself made the fandom rejoice.



*** The beloved Wolfman/Perez-era Comicbook/TeenTitans being featured (rather than one of the more recent, controversial incarnations) with the creators promising to follow up on a storyline between Kole and Jericho that originally went nowhere.



* FanPreferredCouple: Many of these pairings that aren't in the New 52 will be revisited, including [[Comicbook/{{Superman}} Clark Kent and Lois Lane]], [[Comicbook/TheFlash Wally West and Linda Park]], and [[Comicbook/{{Nightwing}} Dick Grayson]] with ''both'' [[Comicbook/{{Batgirl}} Barbara Gordon]] ''and'' [[Comicbook/TeenTitans Starfire]] (in separate universes). Stephanie Brown and [[Comicbook/RobinSeries Tim Drake]] share some BelligerentSexualTension as well.

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* FanPreferredCouple: Many of these pairings that aren't in the New 52 will be revisited, including [[Comicbook/{{Superman}} Clark Kent and Lois Lane]], [[Comicbook/TheFlash Wally West and Linda Park]], and [[Comicbook/{{Nightwing}} Dick Grayson]] with ''both'' [[Comicbook/{{Batgirl}} Barbara Gordon]] ''and'' [[Comicbook/TeenTitans Starfire]] [[Comicbook/{{Starfire}}]] (in separate universes). Stephanie Brown and [[Comicbook/RobinSeries Tim Drake]] share some BelligerentSexualTension as well.
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*** ComicBook/CaptainCarrotAndHisAmazingZooCrew had been restored from [[IHaveNoMouthAndIMustScream non-funny animal form]] by ''ComicBook/FinalCrisis'', but ''only'' the Zoo Crew, with most of the rest of Earth-C's land-dwellers dead and the handful of survivors still trapped as normal animals. Earth-C have now been completely restored.

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*** ComicBook/CaptainCarrotAndHisAmazingZooCrew had been restored from [[IHaveNoMouthAndIMustScream non-funny animal form]] by ''ComicBook/FinalCrisis'', but ''only'' the Zoo Crew, with most of the rest of Earth-C's land-dwellers dead and the handful of survivors still trapped as normal animals. Earth-C have has now been completely restored.

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*** ComicBook/CaptainCarrotAndHisAmazingZooCrew had been restored from [[IHaveNoMouthAndIMustScream non-funny animal form]] by ''ComicBook/FinalCrisis'', but ''only'' the Zoo Crew, with most of the rest of Earth-C's land-dwellers dead and the handful of survivors still trapped as normal animals. Earth-C have now been completely restored.



%% * CharacterRerailment: For some characters like Starfire and Roy Harper, this is the best writing they've had ever since The ComicBook/{{New 52}}.

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%% * CharacterRerailment: For some characters like Starfire and Roy Harper, this is the best writing they've had ever since The ComicBook/{{New 52}}. 52}}, losing the baggage they've carried from ''ComicBook/RedHoodAndTheOutlaws''.
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** And as of 2019, the clarification has come, and it's not good for ''Convergence'', which has now basically been completely overwritten. Not only '''did''' ''Crisis on Infinite Earths'' actually still happen, but the multiversal structure of DC was given an alternate, more streamlined explanation by Scott Snyder in ''Comicbook/DarkNightsMetal'' and his Justice League run: there's an omniverse, and the local multiverse is the creation of a {{Physical God}}ess and her sons: World Forger, Monitor and Anti-Monitor. All the Crises have occurred as they were shown, and time and events were changed. At this point, nearly all of ''Convergence'' has been completely ignored/overwritten, save for the Super-Family, and even that was changed during the events of ''Comicbook/SupermanReborn'', integrating the "Pre-Flashpoint" Super-Family with the New 52/Rebirth Super-Family.
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: For a series about dream matches between random DC characters from any point in time or any Elseworld there's a lack of truly interesting (Or wish fulfilling) confrontations.

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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: For a series about dream matches between random DC characters from any point in time or any Elseworld there's a lack of truly interesting (Or wish fulfilling) confrontations. One example is a lack of any of the [[TheScrappy Flashpoint characters]] meeting their brighter counterparts and being forced to come to grips with how far they've fallen.
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** And as of 2019, the clarification has come, and it's not good for ''Convergence'', which has now basically been completely overwritten. Not only '''did''' ''Crisis on Infinite Earths'' actually still happen, but the multiversal structure of DC was given an alternate, more streamlined explanation by Scott Snyder in ''Comicbook/DarkNightsMetal'' and his Justice League run: there's an omniverse, and the local multiverse is the creation of a {{Physical God}}ess and her sons: World Forger, Monitor and Anti-Monitor. All the Crises have occurred as they were shown, and time and events were changed. At this point, nearly all of ''Convergence'' has been completely ignored/overwritten, save for the Super-Family, and even that was changed during the events of ''Comicbook/SupermanReborn'', integrating the "Pre-Flashpoint" Super-Family with the New 52/Rebirth Super-Family.
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** In ''Convergence: The Question'', there's a rather similar situation between [[Comicbook/TheQuestion Renee Montoya]] and [[Comicbook/{{Huntress}} Helena Bertinelli]], who are also living together, and talk to one another like a married couple.

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** In ''Convergence: The Question'', there's a rather similar situation between [[Comicbook/TheQuestion Renee Montoya]] and [[Comicbook/{{Huntress}} Helena Bertinelli]], who are also living together, and talk to one another like a married couple. It's likely a MythologyGag to the ''[[WesternAnimation/JusticeLeague Justice League Unlimited]]'' cartoon, in which Helena and Vic Sage, who's Renee male predecessor in The Question mantle, were a couple.
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** Both Harpers in ''Convergence: Titans'' #1. After all the crap Roy did and went through, after finding at least some semblance of peace, Lian gets resurrected and Roy is told if he ever wants her back for good he has to fight Troia and Starfire. And Lian, in her very first appearance after she was brutally killed off in ''[[ComicBook/JusticeLeagueCryForJustice Cry For Justice]]'' and used as a justification for Roy's FaceHeelTurn, is now at the mercy of a demonic being who quite literally has her life in his hands. She's terrified and begging her dad for help, but at the same time she's also forced to watch as her father fights Donna and Kory, her surrogate aunts, and he's doing it for ''her''. Donna is even the closest thing to an actual mother Lian's ever known so she's watching her family tear itself apart over her. God ''damn'' somebody give these two a hug, or better yet, just let them hug each other. [[spoiler: [[HeartwarmingMoments They get their hug]].]]

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** Both Harpers in ''Convergence: Titans'' #1. After all the crap Roy did and went through, after finding at least some semblance of peace, Lian gets resurrected and Roy is told if he ever wants her back for good he has to fight Troia and Starfire. And Lian, in her very first appearance after she was brutally killed off in ''[[ComicBook/JusticeLeagueCryForJustice Cry For Justice]]'' and used as a justification for Roy's FaceHeelTurn, is now at the mercy of a demonic being who quite literally has her life in his hands. She's terrified and begging her dad for help, but at the same time she's also forced to watch as her father fights Donna and Kory, her surrogate aunts, and he's doing it for ''her''. Donna is even the closest thing to an actual mother Lian's ever known so she's watching her family tear itself apart over her. God ''damn'' somebody give these two a hug, or better yet, just let them hug each other. [[spoiler: [[HeartwarmingMoments [[SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments They get their hug]].]]
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* IdiotPlot: ''Convergence: Superboy'' #1 & #2 work on this principle. Superboy is set against the ''ComicBook/KingdomCome'' Superman, Flash and Red Robin. The latter three attack Superboy without saying a word edgewise and then suddenly say they come in peace. Naturally, Superboy doesn't buy it. The book then goes into detail about how Superboy is in the wrong because he refuses to give up or surrender to the KC heroes. Except... he has a point. All Superboy knows is that whoever took their cities hostage has stated that anyone who loses their fight will see their city destroyed, so he's fighting just as much from anger as fear. He also has no reason to believe anything Superman tells him, because for all he knows, this is an evil counterpart or something. When Superboy flat out states all of this, the characters still treat his misgivings as selfish and wrong because the three older KC heroes supposedly have a better chance at saving everyone. But, yet again, he has no reason to trust them.

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* IdiotPlot: ''Convergence: Superboy'' ComicBook/{{Superboy|1994}}'' #1 & #2 work on this principle. Superboy is set against the ''ComicBook/KingdomCome'' Superman, Flash and Red Robin. The latter three attack Superboy without saying a word edgewise and then suddenly say they come in peace. Naturally, Superboy doesn't buy it. The book then goes into detail about how Superboy is in the wrong because he refuses to give up or surrender to the KC heroes. Except... he has a point. All Superboy knows is that whoever took their cities hostage has stated that anyone who loses their fight will see their city destroyed, so he's fighting just as much from anger as fear. He also has no reason to believe anything Superman tells him, because for all he knows, this is an evil counterpart or something. When Superboy flat out states all of this, the characters still treat his misgivings as selfish and wrong because the three older KC heroes supposedly have a better chance at saving everyone. But, yet again, he has no reason to trust them.



* StrawmanHasAPoint: In ''Convergence: Superboy'' #2, after the ''ComicBook/KingdomCome'' heroes face Superboy, he becomes angry and determined to fight them despite their pleas to work together. Everyone (even Dubbilex, who narrates the book) states how irrationally and angrily Superboy is behaving... except Superboy is right for several reasons. First of all, ''they'' attacked first, so their pleas for peace seem hypocritical and petty after they were the ones who attacked him with Kryptonite gas. Second, Superboy has no idea if these guys are {{Evil Counterpart}}s to the heroes he's familiar with. Third, the only thing Superboy knows is that anyone who loses their fight will see their city destroyed. When he asks why the KC heroes (if they're so noble) didn't surrender right away, they say because they have a better chance of figuring things out. Except, there was no way they could have known anything about Superboy or his world to make that judgment.

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* StrawmanHasAPoint: In ''Convergence: Superboy'' ComicBook/{{Superboy|1994}}'' #2, after the ''ComicBook/KingdomCome'' heroes face Superboy, he becomes angry and determined to fight them despite their pleas to work together. Everyone (even Dubbilex, who narrates the book) states how irrationally and angrily Superboy is behaving... except Superboy is right for several reasons. First of all, ''they'' attacked first, so their pleas for peace seem hypocritical and petty after they were the ones who attacked him with Kryptonite gas. Second, Superboy has no idea if these guys are {{Evil Counterpart}}s to the heroes he's familiar with. Third, the only thing Superboy knows is that anyone who loses their fight will see their city destroyed. When he asks why the KC heroes (if they're so noble) didn't surrender right away, they say because they have a better chance of figuring things out. Except, there was no way they could have known anything about Superboy or his world to make that judgment. Dubbilex does eventually point out that Superboy has a point, and then communicates with him telepathically to let him know that the version of Superman he's facing is indeed a hero.
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*** Comicbook/{{Superboy}} back to being FunPersonified (erasing his angsty DarkerAndEdgier days), and having a costume proper like in his pre-Teen Titans incarnation, with [[AdaptationalBadass a power boost]] to boot!

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*** Comicbook/{{Superboy}} back to being FunPersonified (erasing his angsty DarkerAndEdgier days), and having a costume proper like in his pre-Teen Titans incarnation, [[ComicBook/Superboy1994 incarnation]], with [[AdaptationalBadass a power boost]] to boot!
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* BrokenBase: The ending of ''Convergence'' #8 has sparked a lot of debate among fans. Some say that the original multiverse is back and infinite now, while others see the art as depicting the ComicBook/{{New 52}} multiverse as an evolved version of the old one. DC has not been clear in this regard, with author Jeff King stating that everything ever published is now in continuity and out there somewhere, while Dan DiDio seems to view the ending differently than King, but won't be too precise, preferring to let fans debate. At this point, it's going to take further published stories to clarify the situation.

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* BrokenBase: The ending of ''Convergence'' #8 has sparked a lot of debate among fans. Some say that the original multiverse is back and infinite now, while others see the art as depicting the ComicBook/{{New 52}} multiverse as an evolved version of the old one. DC has not been clear in this regard, with author Jeff King stating that everything ever published is now in continuity and out there somewhere, while Dan DiDio [=DiDio=] seems to view the ending differently than King, but won't be too precise, preferring to let fans debate. At this point, it's going to take further published stories to clarify the situation.
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* FanPreferredCouple: Many of these pairings that aren't in the New 52 will be revisited, including [[Comicbook/{{Superman}} Clark Kent and Lois Lane]], [[Comicbook/TheFlash Wally West and Linda Park]], and [[Comicbook/{{Nightwing}} Dick Grayson]] with ''both'' [[Comicbook/{{Batgirl}} Barbara Gordon]] ''and'' [[Comicbook/TeenTitans Starfire]] (in separate universes). Stephanie Brown and Tim Drake share some BelligerentSexualTension as well.

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* FanPreferredCouple: Many of these pairings that aren't in the New 52 will be revisited, including [[Comicbook/{{Superman}} Clark Kent and Lois Lane]], [[Comicbook/TheFlash Wally West and Linda Park]], and [[Comicbook/{{Nightwing}} Dick Grayson]] with ''both'' [[Comicbook/{{Batgirl}} Barbara Gordon]] ''and'' [[Comicbook/TeenTitans Starfire]] (in separate universes). Stephanie Brown and [[Comicbook/RobinSeries Tim Drake Drake]] share some BelligerentSexualTension as well.

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