Line #24 YMMV/Convergence


1	%%
2	%%
3	%% Zero Context Example entries are NOT allowed on wiki pages. All such entries have been commented out. Add context to the entries before uncommenting them.
4	%%
5	%%
6	%%
7	----
8	* BizarroEpisode: Both issues of the Supergirl Matrix tie-in, which are written by Keith Giffen, notorious for writing satirical stories about the DC Comics staff, current status quo, and characters.
9	* CharacterRerailment: For some characters like Starfire and Roy Harper, this is the best writing they've had ever since The ComicBook/{{New 52}}, losing the baggage they've carried from ''ComicBook/RedHoodAndTheOutlaws''.
10	* ContinuityLockOut: The main line of Convergence is a direct sequel to the New 52's Earth 2 series. So if you've never picked up one of those books, you won't understand what's happening.
11	* FanPreferredCouple: Many of these pairings that aren't in the New 52 will be revisited, including [[Comicbook/{{Superman}} Clark Kent and Lois Lane]], [[Franchise/TheFlash Wally West and Linda Park]], and [[Comicbook/{{Nightwing}} Dick Grayson]] with ''both'' [[Comicbook/{{Batgirl}} Barbara Gordon]] ''and'' Comicbook/{{Starfire}} (in separate universes). Stephanie Brown and [[Comicbook/{{Robin}} Tim Drake]] share some BelligerentSexualTension as well.
12	* IKnewIt: There was speculation and guessing that the main series was [[spoiler:going to jump start the upcoming ''[[ComicBook/{{Earth2}} Earth-2: Society]]'' book, and they were right]].
13	* JustHereForGodzilla: Many readers are happy to see their favorite characters again in their pre-''ComicBook/{{Flashpoint}}'' versions, if only to see them get a proper closure to their stories.
14	* LesYay:
15	** In ''Convergence: Batgirl'', [[Comicbook/{{Batgirl2009}} Stephanie Brown]] and [[Comicbook/{{Batgirl2000}} Cassandra Cain]] are shown to be living together. Stephanie also refers to Cassandra as "honey", paying a little fanservice to the popular ship.
16	** In ''Convergence: The Question'', there's a rather similar situation between [[Comicbook/TheQuestion Renee Montoya]] and [[Comicbook/{{Huntress}} Helena Bertinelli]], who are also living together, and talk to one another like a married couple. It's likely a MythologyGag to the ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeague'' cartoon, in which Helena and Vic Sage, who's Renee male predecessor in The Question mantle, were a couple.
17	* LikeYouWouldReallyDoIt: Many fans find it hard to believe that this is the actual last time DC will do anything with these versions of the characters, considering how the company has become prone to the CosmicRetcon trope, and considering that they had attempted something similar with their ''DC Retroactive'' mini-event back in 2011. Turns out to be correct, when this event in fact goes the ''complete opposite extreme'' and makes every story, everywhere, canon.
18	* MemeticMutation: Telos, one of the main characters of the event, saw an apparent attempt by DC [[ThisIsGoingToBeHuge to push him as a sensational new find]]--going so far as to give him a miniseries that debuted five months after ''Convergence'' had wrapped up. Said miniseries then bombed hard. Most of the fandom found the attempt to push the character baffling, and so turned him into a MemeticBadass out of sheer sarcasm: ''obviously'', Telos got a solo series before characters like the Justice Society or Shazam, because he's the most popular and successful character DC has ever created! Consequently, jokes about Telos being DC's greatest A-lister and his miniseries being more popular than the Bible are rather common whenever he's mentioned, and writer Jeff King stopped doing comics afterward because he realized he could never match his masterpiece.
19	* SalvagedStory: The event seems like this trope personified, to the extent that some have called it "A love letter to the fans."
20	** The event is a series of stories revolving around various past versions of DC's characters, who have been plucked from the timestream by ComicBook/{{Brainiac}}. The general sense seems to be that DC wanted to go back and give a satisfactory send-off to the Pre-New 52 timeline, as well as answer some complaints (with the writer of the ''Titans'' tie-in explicitly saying he wanted to reverse the horrible things that had been done to Arsenal and Lian during and after ''[[ComicBook/JusticeLeagueCryForJustice Cry For Justice]]''). Plot points include:
21	*** [[ComicBook/{{Batgirl2009}} Stephanie Brown]] and the returned [[ComicBook/{{Batgirl2000}} Cassandra Cain]] fighting crime together as Batgirl and Black Bat.
22	*** The beloved Wolfman/Perez-era Comicbook/TeenTitans being featured (rather than one of the more recent, controversial incarnations) with the creators promising to follow up on a storyline between Kole and Jericho that originally went nowhere. ComicBook/{{Starfire}} and ComicBook/{{Nightwing}} are also married at last, which in itself made the fandom rejoice.
23	*** Barbara Gordon as [[ComicBook/BirdsOfPrey Oracle]] once again, still in a wheelchair, and now married to ComicBook/{{Nightwing}}.
24	*** Arsenal trying to set his life right, working through his addiction, and working with the ''real'' Titans again.
25	*** [[ComicBook/WonderGirl Donna Troy back as Troia]] alongside Starfire and Arsenal.
26	*** Lian Harper and [[ComicBook/TheAtom Ryan Choi]] coming back to life.
27	*** Deathstroke finally getting what he deserves after avoiding any retribution for murdering Ryan Choi.
28	*** Renee Montoya is back as the Question and teams up with ComicBook/{{Huntress}} (Helena Bertinelli) and ComicBook/{{Batwoman}}.
29	*** ComicBook/{{Superman}} still being in a loving marriage to ComicBook/LoisLane. [[spoiler:They even have a son together.]]
30	*** Wally West as Franchise/TheFlash again and reunited with his children Iris and Jai, who are back to their former powersets.
31	*** [[ComicBook/BlueBeetle Ted Kord]] being alive again as part of the ComicBook/JusticeLeagueInternational.
32	*** The Golden Age Superman and ComicBook/JusticeSocietyOfAmerica coming back, alongside a restored Infinity Inc.
33	*** Amanda Waller back to her original body type, and in charge of a ComicBook/SuicideSquad similar to its early days.
34	*** Comicbook/{{Superboy}} back to being FunPersonified (erasing his angsty DarkerAndEdgier days), and having a costume proper like in his pre-Teen Titans [[ComicBook/Superboy1994 incarnation]], with [[AdaptationalBadass a power boost]] to boot!
35	*** Wacky, fan-favorite characters like ComicBook/AmbushBug have returned.
36	*** ComicBook/ElongatedMan and Sue Dibny alive and married.
37	*** Earth-S's [[ComicBook/{{Shazam}} Captain Marvel]], for those who don't like the ComicBook/{{New 52}}'s DarkerAndEdgier "Shazam".
38	*** ComicBook/CaptainCarrotAndHisAmazingZooCrew had been restored from [[AndIMustScream non-funny animal form]] by ''ComicBook/FinalCrisis'', but ''only'' the Zoo Crew, with most of the rest of Earth-C's land-dwellers dead and the handful of survivors still trapped as normal animals. Earth-C has now been completely restored.
39	** Ultimately, the biggest salvage was made at the very end; [[spoiler: ''ComicBook/CrisisOnInfiniteEarths'' is undone, allowing ''all'' universes to exist once more. ''All'' of our favorite characters, even if some of them are changed, are now free to have stories told of them]].
40	* SoOkayItsAverage:
41	** The main ''Convergence'' book is starting to get this reception mostly due to the first two issues (#0 and #1) only repeating the main premise of the book and focusing more on the Earth-2 characters than anything else. Things may be starting to improve as issue 2 has been noted as having some strong moments: [[spoiler:the Earth-2 characters having a focused plan, E-2 Thomas Wayne meeting Pre-Flashpoint Bruce Wayne and having a bittersweet quiet moment alone while E-2 Dick Grayson sees a version of his wife still alive while he has tea with Pre-Flashpoint Alfred]].
42	** The event overall has garnered this reaction. Many fans were happy at seeing past versions of their favorite characters as well as the attempts to resolve some unresolved arcs, especially fans of the Titans, Oracle, and the Superman/Lois Lane marriage. However, many felt the books lost some impact due to continuity and editing errors, which were especially prominent in the main title.
43	* StrawmanHasAPoint: In ''Convergence: ComicBook/{{Superboy\|1994}}'' #2, after the ''ComicBook/KingdomCome'' heroes face Superboy, he becomes angry and determined to fight them despite their pleas to work together. Everyone (even Dubbilex, who narrates the book) states how irrationally and angrily Superboy is behaving... except Superboy is right for several reasons. First of all, ''they'' attacked first, so their pleas for peace seem hypocritical and petty after they were the ones who attacked him with Kryptonite gas. Second, Superboy has no idea if these guys are {{Evil Counterpart}}s to the heroes he's familiar with. Third, the only thing Superboy knows is that anyone who loses their fight will see their city destroyed. When he asks why the KC heroes (if they're so noble) didn't surrender right away, they say because they have a better chance of figuring things out. Except, there was no way they could have known anything about Superboy or his world to make that judgment. Dubbilex does eventually point out that Superboy has a point, and then communicates with him telepathically to let him know that the version of Superman he's facing is indeed a hero.
44	* TakeThatScrappy: In ''Convergence: Speed Force'' #2, Wally delivers a TheReasonYouSuckSpeech to ComicBook/{{Flashpoint}} Wonder Woman defining her as Diana's worst version of any universe. In ''Convergence'' #7, [[UsefulNotes/TheSilverAgeOfComicBooks Silver Age]] Supergirl punches her into a mountain and expresses disbelief at someone like her being Wonder Woman.
45	* WinBackTheCrowd: This is DC's attempt to win back fans who are upset at losing their favorite status quos due to the Comicbook/{{Flashpoint}} reboot.
46	* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: For a series about dream matches between random DC characters from any point in time or any Elseworld there's a lack of truly interesting (Or wish fulfilling) confrontations. One example is a lack of any of the [[TheScrappy Flashpoint characters]] meeting their brighter counterparts and being forced to come to grips with how far they've fallen.
47	* TheWoobie:
48	** Both Harpers in ''Convergence: Titans'' #1. After all the crap Roy did and went through, after finding at least some semblance of peace, Lian gets resurrected and Roy is told if he ever wants her back for good he has to fight Troia and Starfire. And Lian, in her very first appearance after she was brutally killed off in ''[[ComicBook/JusticeLeagueCryForJustice Cry For Justice]]'' and used as a justification for Roy's FaceHeelTurn, is now at the mercy of a demonic being who quite literally has her life in his hands. She's terrified and begging her dad for help, but at the same time she's also forced to watch as her father fights Donna and Kory, her surrogate aunts, and he's doing it for ''her''. Donna is even the closest thing to an actual mother Lian's ever known so she's watching her family tear itself apart over her. God ''damn'' somebody give these two a hug, or better yet, just let them hug each other. [[spoiler: [[SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments They get their hug]].]]
49	** Pre-Crisis ComicBook/{{Supergirl}} witnesses a vision of her own future death in ComicBook/CrisisOnInfiniteEarths and goes through HeroicBSOD as she realises her HeroicSacrifice might have been a SenselessSacrifice after all as it seems everything is falling apart. [[spoiler:Then she rallies, decides that whatever happens to her she has to save her cousin and flies back to save him.]]

Context YMMV / Convergence