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* FandomRivalry: Between the fans of this movie and those who prefer the 1971 film. Fans of the Burton film and Roald Dahl purists don't think very highly of the Stuart film, perceiving it as a barely faithful take on Dahl's book which takes way too many liberties with the source material and is filled with overly corny, musical numbers that don't help to advance the plot at all. The fact that Dahl himself as well as Tim Burton have expressed their distaste with the 1971 movie is commonly cited as well. While fans of the Stuart film do recognize the Burton film is more accurate to the book, they feel it just doesn't evoke the same sense of wonder and amazement as the previous movie, has a particularly unlikable portrayal of Willy Wonka [[spoiler: and is dragged down by a shoehorned DaddyIssues conflict regarding Wonka and his father, Wilbur]]. That said, [[TakingAThirdOption there is a subset of fans who appreciate both films equally]].

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* FandomRivalry: Between the fans of this movie and those who prefer the 1971 film. Fans of the Burton film and Roald Dahl purists don't think very highly of the Stuart film, perceiving it as a barely faithful take on Dahl's book which takes way too many liberties with the source material and is filled with overly corny, corny musical numbers that don't help to advance the plot at all. The fact that Dahl himself as well as Tim Burton have expressed their distaste with the 1971 movie is commonly cited as well. While fans of the Stuart film do recognize the Burton film is more accurate to the book, they feel it just doesn't evoke the same sense of wonder and amazement as the previous movie, has a particularly unlikable portrayal of Willy Wonka [[spoiler: and is dragged down by a shoehorned DaddyIssues conflict regarding Wonka and his father, Wilbur]]. That said, [[TakingAThirdOption there is a subset of fans who appreciate both films equally]].
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* OneSceneWonder: Arthur Slugworth, who only appears once but makes an impression thanks to Philip Philmar’s creepy performance.

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Evil Is Sexy TRS; this has become an objective, in-universe trope.


** Mrs. Beauregard. She has her fans who find her [[EvilIsSexy sexy]], but a great amount of people despise her for being a horrible mother, whose only concern after her daughter turned into a giant blueberry was that she would be unable to compete.

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** Mrs. Beauregard. She has her fans who find her [[EvilIsSexy sexy]], sexy, but a great amount of people despise her for being a horrible mother, whose only concern after her daughter turned into a giant blueberry was that she would be unable to compete.



* EvilIsSexy: Mrs. Beauregard is a minor antagonist in the film (specifically, a GoldDigger and a StageMom), but her fans find her [[StacysMom attractive as hell]].
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** As noted in MemeticMolester above, comparing Creator/JohnnyDepp's version of Wonka to Music/MichaelJackson has recently become popular due to their similar appearances. Not helping is that the movie came out the same year Michael Jackson was exposed as a pedophile.

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** As noted in MemeticMolester above, comparing Creator/JohnnyDepp's version of Wonka to Music/MichaelJackson has recently become popular due to their similar appearances. Not helping is that the movie came out the same year Michael Jackson was exposed as a pedophile.on trial for child molestation and acquitted.
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* HarsherInHindsight: Mr. Bucket losing his toothpaste factory job to a robotic machine is a prime example of technological advancements that would eventually render certain occupations useless for employment in the future.
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* BaseBreakingCharacter: Grandpa Joe. As an elderly, ninety-six-year-old man who is too weak to leave his bed for ''decades'', one group thinks him suddenly being able to leave his bed and become Charlie's parental guardian after hearing that Charlie has found a golden ticket, makes no sense and implies that he is a lazy, ManipulativeBastard. Another group thinks that it isn't that important, especially since Joe's newfound energy is far from the only fantastical thing that happens in the story.

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* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9sOhO2UCTW4 All four]] [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7PAKDOFCGo of the]] [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_v44mYzFKsA Oompa Loompa's]] [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0Xs9izK_7o songs]] are very catchy and well-done, as expected from being Danny Elfman creations. Special points to the fact that they also use the same lyrics from the books, and for using different styles to match each of the children's personalities (Augustus' being a tribalistic marching band-like tune, Violet's being funk/disco, Veruca's being a soft rock ballad, and Mike's being hard rock).

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[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9sOhO2UCTW4 All four]] [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7PAKDOFCGo of the]] [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_v44mYzFKsA Oompa Loompa's]] [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0Xs9izK_7o songs]] are very catchy and well-done, as expected from being Danny Elfman creations. Special points to the fact that they also use the same lyrics from the books, and for using different styles to match each of the children's personalities (Augustus' being a tribalistic marching band-like tune, Violet's being funk/disco, Veruca's being a soft rock ballad, and Mike's being hard rock).rock).
** Screw it, Danny Elfman’s score fires on all cylinders during this movie, with [[https://youtu.be/CPOObJujnW4?feature=shared the main titles theme being the most memorable.]]
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* CriticalDissonance: On Website/RottenTomatoes, the 2005 adaptation has a "fresh" critic score of 82%, but the audience score for the film is only 51%.

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* CriticalDissonance: On Website/RottenTomatoes, the 2005 adaptation has a "fresh" critic score of 82%, but the audience score for the film is only 51%.was well-liked by critics. Audiences, however, who were [[AdaptationDisplacement less likely to be familiar with]] [[Literature/CharlieAndTheChocolateFactory the original book]], instead considered it to be a badly-done remake of the classic [[Film/WillyWonkaAndTheChocolateFactory 1971 film version]] (despite not being a remake of said movie), and gave it mediocre reviews.
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Georgina was the one who says the "I love grapes!" line, not Josephine.


** A good amount of people also like Grandma Josephine for her NonSequitur lines providing lots of funny moments (i.e., "I love grapes!").

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** A good amount of people also like Grandma Josephine Georgina for her NonSequitur lines providing lots of funny moments (i.e., "I love grapes!").
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* DracoInLeatherPants: Aside from Veruca, the bratty kids get some fans who see them as not being as bad as intended. Mike Teavee, however, gets it the worst. With the way people review the book version of him, you'd think his only "sin" is watching television, which is not seen as bad nowadays. In reality, he has a pretty violent mind and prideful nature. Throughout the tour, he is constantly trying to get attention on himself by trying to seem smarter [[KnowNothingKnowItAll than he actually is]]. He also has TroublingUnchildlikeBehavior, with the specific shows he obsesses over being gangster shows with lots of shooting and killing, and his new interview shows him both threatening them to shut up and mention not only how cool the shooting is, but how he wishes he could do it himself.
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*** The 2005 film portrays Mike as a caustic InsufferableGenius who's obsessed with ShootEmUp games. Away from his electronic devices, this ends up translating into an obsession with violence (as shown when he smashes some of the food in the Chocolate Room and then justifies himself to his father by saying that "[Wonka] said 'enjoy'") and an inability to appreciate the wonderland that is Wonka's factory. Ultimately, the film emphasizes that Mike's arrogance is what drives him to send himself by television - he's trying to prove that [[ReedRichardsIsUseless Wonka is wasting a perfectly good teleporter on chocolate]], only to find out that Wonka has [[IncredibleShrinkingMan a good reason]] for not sending a person through it.

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*** The 2005 film portrays Mike as a caustic InsufferableGenius who's obsessed with ShootEmUp games. Away from his electronic devices, this ends up translating into an obsession with violence (as shown when he smashes some of the food in the Chocolate Room and then justifies himself to his father by saying that "[Wonka] said 'enjoy'") and an inability to appreciate the wonderland that is Wonka's factory.factory - both of which were implied in the book, but the movie calls more attention to them. Ultimately, the film emphasizes that Mike's arrogance is what drives him to send himself by television - he's trying to prove that [[ReedRichardsIsUseless Wonka is wasting a perfectly good teleporter on chocolate]], only to find out that Wonka has [[IncredibleShrinkingMan a good reason]] for not sending a person through it.

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** Mike's interest in television being sufficient to warrant being labelled a "bad" kid has also aged poorly, and the majority of post-1971 adaptations give him more obsessive tendencies towards his interest as it has become accepted that television is only bad for those who watch it continuously at the expense of their health. Mike's portrayal in the book can be traced back to author Creator/RoaldDahl having an intense dislike for television. Notably, Dahl was still portraying television-watchers as automatically unpleasant, unintelligent people morally inferior to book-readers as late as ''Literature/{{Matilda}}'', published in 1988 near the end of his life.

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** Mike's interest in television being sufficient to warrant being labelled a "bad" kid has also aged poorly, and the majority being a clear reflection of post-1971 adaptations give him more obsessive tendencies towards his interest as it has become accepted that television is only bad for those who watch it continuously at the expense of their health. Mike's portrayal in the book can be traced back to author Creator/RoaldDahl having an Creator/RoaldDahl's intense dislike for television. Notably, Dahl was still portraying television-watchers as automatically unpleasant, unintelligent people morally inferior to book-readers as late as ''Literature/{{Matilda}}'', published in 1988 near the end of his life. The majority of post-1971 adaptations give him more obsessive tendencies towards his interest, as it has become accepted that television is only bad for those who watch it continuously at the expense of their health, and often add in additional vices.
*** The 1971 film, while focusing on Mike's TV obsession, also emphasizes his greed through his willingness to sell Wonka's secrets to Slugworth.
*** The 2005 film portrays Mike as a caustic InsufferableGenius who's obsessed with ShootEmUp games. Away from his electronic devices, this ends up translating into an obsession with violence (as shown when he smashes some of the food in the Chocolate Room and then justifies himself to his father by saying that "[Wonka] said 'enjoy'") and an inability to appreciate the wonderland that is Wonka's factory. Ultimately, the film emphasizes that Mike's arrogance is what drives him to send himself by television - he's trying to prove that [[ReedRichardsIsUseless Wonka is wasting a perfectly good teleporter on chocolate]], only to find out that Wonka has [[IncredibleShrinkingMan a good reason]] for not sending a person through it.
*** The 2010 opera, while downplaying Mike's intelligence, shows him as a wannabe SociopathicSoldier.
*** The 2013 musical indicates that Mike was already a juvenile delinquent in the making, with his parents keeping him glued to a screen at all times so he doesn't cause havoc in the real world. It also plays up Mike's arrogance and lack of a sense of wonder, much like the 2005 film did.
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** This incarnation of Willy Wonka. He was hated by critics ([[https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/charlie_and_the_chocolate_factory who still mostly gave the film positive marks]]), since Creator/JohnnyDepp's performance [[ToughActToFollow couldn't be compared to]] Creator/GeneWilder's, with some viewers also hating his LargeHam personality that tried too hard to be funny and just came off as awkward. Many critics also found Depp's performance tastelessly close to Music/MichaelJackson in look and demeanor, especially in the wake of his molestation trial that concluded just a month prior. Additionally, many despise what a raging {{Jerkass}} he can be, and dislike his apathy towards the children, which doesn't make any sense since he invited them over to make one of them the heir to the factory. However, he has a fanbase of nostalgic viewers who found his mannerisms charming, finding the comparison's to Wilder's Wonka unfair and thinking his new backstory makes him an effective JerkassWoobie and a good {{Foil}} to Charlie.

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** This incarnation of Willy Wonka. He was hated by critics ([[https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/charlie_and_the_chocolate_factory who still mostly gave the film positive marks]]), since Creator/JohnnyDepp's performance [[ToughActToFollow couldn't be compared to]] Creator/GeneWilder's, with some viewers also hating his LargeHam personality that tried too hard to be funny and just came off as awkward. Many critics also found Depp's performance tastelessly close to Music/MichaelJackson in look and demeanor, especially in the wake of his molestation trial that concluded just a month prior. Additionally, many despise what a raging {{Jerkass}} he can be, and dislike his apathy towards the children, which doesn't make any sense since he invited them over to make one of them the heir to the factory. However, he has a fanbase of nostalgic viewers who found his mannerisms charming, finding the comparison's to Wilder's Wonka unfair and thinking his new backstory justifies his awkwardness, makes him an effective JerkassWoobie and a good {{Foil}} to Charlie.
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* SignatureScene: Violet Beauregarde's transformation into [[InflationBodyGag a giant blueberry]] is perhaps the most consistently talked-about scene in the overall franchise. It's featured in nearly every poster of ''Film/WillyWonkaAndTheChocolateFactory'' and, for better or worse, spawned a fanbase dedicated to blueberry inflation, often gaining new members every time a new adaptation is made.

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* SignatureScene: Violet Beauregarde's transformation into [[InflationBodyGag [[BodyInflationGag a giant blueberry]] is perhaps the most consistently talked-about scene in the overall franchise. It's featured in nearly every poster of ''Film/WillyWonkaAndTheChocolateFactory'' and, for better or worse, spawned a fanbase dedicated to blueberry inflation, often gaining new members every time a new adaptation is made.
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* SignatureScene: Violet Beauregarde's transformation into [[InflationBodyGag a giant blueberry]] is perhaps the most consistently talked-about scene in the overall franchise. It's featured in nearly every poster of ''Film/WillyWonkaAndTheChocolateFactory'' and, for better or worse, spawned a fanbase dedicated to blueberry inflation.

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* SignatureScene: Violet Beauregarde's transformation into [[InflationBodyGag a giant blueberry]] is perhaps the most consistently talked-about scene in the overall franchise. It's featured in nearly every poster of ''Film/WillyWonkaAndTheChocolateFactory'' and, for better or worse, spawned a fanbase dedicated to blueberry inflation.inflation, often gaining new members every time a new adaptation is made.
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* SignatureScene: Augustus Gloop falling into the chocolate river and being sucked up the pipe is one of the most memorable scenes in the entire franchise. Perhaps even more memorable is Violet Beauregard's transformation into a giant blueberry.

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* SignatureScene: Augustus Gloop falling into the chocolate river and being sucked up the pipe is one of the most memorable scenes in the entire franchise. Perhaps even more memorable is Violet Beauregard's Beauregarde's transformation into [[InflationBodyGag a giant blueberry.blueberry]] is perhaps the most consistently talked-about scene in the overall franchise. It's featured in nearly every poster of ''Film/WillyWonkaAndTheChocolateFactory'' and, for better or worse, spawned a fanbase dedicated to blueberry inflation.
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** While attitudes towards gum chewing, addiction to television and video games, and childhood obesity might change over time, there's at least one kid whose behavior comes across as obnoxious, unquestionably wrong, and deserving punishment (ditto for the parents for causing it) in any culture or society before and after 1964: [[SpoiledBrat Veruca Salt]].

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** While attitudes towards gum chewing, addiction to television and video games, and childhood obesity might change over time, there's at least one kid whose behavior comes across as obnoxious, unquestionably wrong, and deserving punishment (ditto for the parents for causing it) in any culture or society before and after 1964: [[SpoiledBrat Veruca Salt]].Salt]], to the point where she's easily most well-known out of the Four Bratty Kids.
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* FetishFuel: The blueberry inflation scene spawned an entire ''genre'' of [[InflatingBodyGag inflation.]]
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* FetishFuel: The blueberry inflation scene spawned an entire ''genre'' of [[InflatingBodyGag inflation.]]
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* CommonKnowledge:
** Some people think that Grandpa Joe [[ObfuscatingDisability was only pretending to be too frail to help the younger Buckets]], due to him going from being bedridden to being able to take the factory tour. In the actual book, he genuinely ''was'' frail, but [[ThrowingOffTheDisability regained his strength]] from happiness alone.
** A few people have thought that Violet's catchphrase was "I want it now!", having confused her with Veruca.
** Due to both movies painting Augustus as German, Veruca as British, and Mike and Violet as American, viewers have mistaken those for their nationalities in the book -- their nationalities are unstated in the book.
** The idea that Mike Teavee dressed as a cowboy -- he actually wore a windbreaker with a picture of the Lone Ranger on it, not a full cowboy outfit.
** Some think the naughty children [[DeathOfAChild die]], perhaps because they only saw the 1971 movie, in which they're never seen after getting punished, or because they took the Oompa Loompas' song about Augustus being made into fudge too seriously and/or misremembered the incinerator Veruca landed in as being lit. In the book, they're described as being a bit beaten-up, but very much alive.

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* WhatDoYouMeanItsNotPolitical: The conversation between young Wonka and his dad, where the dad says he doesn’t want Willy to eat chocolate because he read in a medical journal that some kids are allergic, sounds suspiciously like an parody of anti-vaxxers.



* WTHCostumingDepartment: The very pale makeup used on Creator/JohnnyDepp combined with his flamboyant a outfit and hairdo infamously made people think of Music/MichaelJackson. Making matters worse is his use of a high pitched character combined with the character attracting young kids to his home. Given this was a time where Jackson was a very controversial figure, many found the look questionable and creepy.


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* WhatDoYouMeanItsNotPolitical: The conversation between young Wonka and his dad, where the dad says he doesn’t want Willy to eat chocolate because he read in a medical journal that some kids are allergic, sounds suspiciously like an parody of anti-vaxxers.
* WTHCostumingDepartment: The very pale makeup used on Creator/JohnnyDepp combined with his flamboyant a outfit and hairdo infamously made people think of Music/MichaelJackson. Making matters worse is his use of a high pitched character combined with the character attracting young kids to his home. Given this was a time where Jackson was a very controversial figure, many found the look questionable and creepy.
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* Worse still, in the book and the Johnny Depp version, Mr. Wonka shares some of chocolate from the river with Charlie and Grandpa Joe.



** The people who try to buy the golden ticket off Charlie when he finds it aren’t necessarily in the wrong this time, since it’s specifically stated that the contestants have to be children, so it’s possible that most of them were simply parents wanting to make their own children’s dreams happen. It helps that one woman outright offers Charlie $500 for the ticket.



* TheWoobie: Like his book counterpart, Charlie is more of the IronWoobie variety in this film.
** Mike Teevee’s father might be this; unlike the other parents, who spoil their children rotten, he's just an ExtremeDoormat to a TV-obsessed son. He admits that he just can't get a handle on someone who grew up too fast. Veruca’s father arguably qualifies as well, as he's obviously getting very tired of catering to Veruca's every demand (and her mother being no help), before finally snapping at the end when she wants the Great Glass Elevator.



* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: Despite being based on the book, the four bratty kids only have one parent accompany them to the factory like in the original, with the missing ones only appearing during the press interviews (although Violet’s father isn’t present for her press, indicating she might not have one). This is particularly egregious when during Veruca’s musical number, when her father falls down the chute, the Oompa-Loompa’s throw ''a picture of Veruca’s mother'' after him. From this it can be theorized that the three missing parents ''were'' supposed to come to the factory, but presumably one of their actors was unavailable when some of the scenes there were filmed, and the creators ended up going the way of the Gene Wilder version.
** In relation to the aforementioned example: while Violet and Mike are accompanied to the factory by their mother and father, respectively (the reverse of what happened in the Wilder version), Veruca and Augustus are both accompanied by the same parents as in the Wilder version; it would have been nice to at least see the parents who didn’t come to the factory the first time appear. At least one source ''did'' indicate that there was originally going to be a Mr. Gloop, however.
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: Despite being based on the book, the four bratty kids only have one parent accompany them to the factory like in the original, with the missing ones only appearing during the press interviews (although Violet’s father isn’t present for her press, indicating she might not have one). This is particularly egregious when during Veruca’s musical number, when her father falls down the chute, the Oompa-Loompa’s throw ''a picture of Veruca’s mother'' after him. From this it can be theorized that the three missing parents ''were'' supposed to come to the factory, but presumably one of their actors was unavailable when some of the scenes there were filmed, and the creators ended up going the way of the Gene Wilder version.
** In relation to the aforementioned example: while Violet and Mike are accompanied to the factory by their mother and father, respectively (the reverse of what happened in the Wilder version), Veruca and Augustus are both accompanied by the same parents as in the Wilder version; it would have been nice to at least see the parents who didn’t come to the factory the first time appear. At least one source ''did'' indicate that there was originally going to be a Mr. Gloop, however.
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* TheWoobie: Charlie and his family, of course. There's also Mr. Teavee, Mike's father; unlike the other parents, who spoil their children rotten, he's just an ExtremeDoormat to a TV-obsessed son. He admits that he just can't get a handle on someone who grew up too fast. Even Mr. Salt arguably qualifies, as he's obviously getting very tired of catering to Veruca's every demand and his wife being no help, before finally snapping at the end when she wants the Great Glass Elevator.

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* TheWoobie: Like his book counterpart, Charlie and his family, is more of course. There's also Mr. Teavee, Mike's father; the IronWoobie variety in this film.
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unlike the other parents, who spoil their children rotten, he's just an ExtremeDoormat to a TV-obsessed son. He admits that he just can't get a handle on someone who grew up too fast. Even Mr. Salt Veruca’s father arguably qualifies, qualifies as well, as he's obviously getting very tired of catering to Veruca's every demand and his wife (and her mother being no help, help), before finally snapping at the end when she wants the Great Glass Elevator.
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** The people who try to buy the golden ticket off Charlie when he finds it aren’t necessarily in the wrong this time, since it’s specifically stated that the contestants have to be children, so it’s possible that most of them were simply parents wanting to make their own children’s dreams happen. It helps that one woman outright offers Charlie $500 for the ticket.
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* AccidentalAesop: So, your kid's won the chance to tour a world-famous factory? Keep your eyes on them at all times and make sure they know to be on their best behavior. While it's debatable how much the kids deserved their punishments (see entries below), their actions that led to those punishments would have been dangerous in any real scenario: getting too close to a river when you don't know how to swim, eating candy that hasn't left the testing phase yet, etc.
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* StrawmanHasAPoint:
** Many adult characters, namely the parents of the naughty children and to a lesser extent the non-Joe grandparents, are meant to be seen as annoying killjoys for believing Willy Wonka is insane. Considering he [[DissonantSerenity brushes off serious situations with jokes]] and has employees from a place that sounds made-up (and the geography teacher doesn't know about it), they have a point for thinking that.
** Mike Teavee is meant to be an obnoxious brat, and he does have a bit of an attitude problem, but he does occasionally have a good point, such as, "If you hate gum so much, why do you make it?".

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