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** The entire EnsembleDarkhorse InternetBackdraft as well as occasional creative differences and departures involving Krayzie and Bizzy also has this as an aspect, particularly in how the two themselves handle it when it comes to answering questions in interviews and whatnot. They both will admit that things tend to go wrong business-wise sometimes but openly disavow the idea of personal animosity or jealousy towards one another every single time. In particular, after Krayzie's controversial departure videos in spring 2011, Bizzy was once asked if he thinks Krayzie and Wish are jealous of him. His response?

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** The entire EnsembleDarkhorse InternetBackdraft backlash as well as occasional creative differences and departures involving Krayzie and Bizzy also has this as an aspect, particularly in how the two themselves handle it when it comes to answering questions in interviews and whatnot. They both will admit that things tend to go wrong business-wise sometimes but openly disavow the idea of personal animosity or jealousy towards one another every single time. In particular, after Krayzie's controversial departure videos in spring 2011, Bizzy was once asked if he thinks Krayzie and Wish are jealous of him. His response?



%%* InternetBackdraft: Anything dealing with Krayzie vs. Bizzy, or Bone vs. Bizzy.


* EpilepticTrees: Fan theories about the group's misfortunes being linked to their obsession with the Ouija board. Not to mention the speculation that they are cursed, because a lot of their collaboration partners are dead. Their mentor Eazy-E (Layzie has openly accused this of being the product of an evil conspiracy, and not without good questions)
*** [[Music/TupacShakur 2Pac]]
*** Music/TheNotoriousBIG
*** Big Punisher
*** Mariah Carey's sanity circa 2002/2003

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* EpilepticTrees: Fan theories about the group's misfortunes being linked to their obsession with the Ouija board. Not to mention the speculation that they are cursed, because a lot of their collaboration partners are dead. dead:
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Their mentor Eazy-E (Layzie has openly accused this of being the product of an evil conspiracy, and not without good questions)
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questions).
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[[Music/TupacShakur 2Pac]]
*** Music/TheNotoriousBIG
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2Pac]].
** Music/TheNotoriousBIG.
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Big Punisher
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Punisher.
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Mariah Carey's sanity circa 2002/20032002/2003.



--> "That probably is perhaps the stupidest question that anybody could ever ask me. But, you know, I'm not gonna answer a stupid question wit' a stupid answer, and just really just say…man, hell nah! That's just dumber than a bag of nickels. It's just dumb, man. Fuck nah!"

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--> ---> "That probably is perhaps the stupidest question that anybody could ever ask me. But, you know, I'm not gonna answer a stupid question wit' a stupid answer, and just really just say…man, hell nah! That's just dumber than a bag of nickels. It's just dumb, man. Fuck nah!"



* InternetBackdraft: Anything dealing with Krayzie vs. Bizzy, or Bone vs. Bizzy.

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* %%* InternetBackdraft: Anything dealing with Krayzie vs. Bizzy, or Bone vs. Bizzy.



* SophomoreSlump: Gloriously [[AvertedTrope annihilated]]!!



* TheLawOfFanJackassery: Or ex-fans in some cases.
* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: This can be dissected into a trope entry of its own, but to summarize:

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* %%* TheLawOfFanJackassery: Or ex-fans in some cases.
* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: This can be dissected into a trope entry of its own, but to summarize:TheyChangedItNowItSucks:



* ToughActToFollow: ''Eternal'' (and to a VERY slight lesser degree ''Art Of War'').

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* %%* ToughActToFollow: ''Eternal'' (and to a VERY slight lesser degree ''Art Of War'').



* WhatDoYouMeanItsNotDidactic

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* %%* WhatDoYouMeanItsNotDidactic


BaseBreakingCharacter: Bizzy has either become enlightened and more of a deep introspective artisan, or a self indulgent, pretentious, narcissistic jack ass who almost derailed the group.



EnsembleDarkHorse: The group itself could qualify in the context of the Hip-Hop scene. Their success came out of nowhere, nobody expected them to last as long as they did, and this is in spite of their lack of respect from the industry.

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EnsembleDarkHorse: *BaseBreakingCharacter: Bizzy has either become enlightened and more of a deep introspective artisan, or a self indulgent, pretentious, narcissistic jack ass who almost derailed the group.
*EnsembleDarkHorse:
The group itself could qualify in the context of the Hip-Hop scene. Their success came out of nowhere, nobody expected them to last as long as they did, and this is in spite of their lack of respect from the industry.


* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: Bizzy has either become enlightened and more of a deep introspective artisan, or a self indulgent, pretentious, narcissistic jack ass who almost derailed the group.

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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: BaseBreakingCharacter: Bizzy has either become enlightened and more of a deep introspective artisan, or a self indulgent, pretentious, narcissistic jack ass who almost derailed the group.



* BaseBreaker: Bizzy Bone. And later on Krayzie as well after people started to blame him for the artistic direction of the group, for better or for worse.
* BrokenBase: And how!! Read the entry for an example.
* ContractualPurity: After "Tha Crossroads", much to the chagrin of fans that prefer their darker, harder stuff.
* EnsembleDarkHorse: It's highly debatable how to view this regarding Krayzie and Bizzy. Many see one or both of them as darkhorses relating to the group's overall popularity, but then there are those who consider them the popular ones and instead see ''[[TakeAThirdOption Flesh]]'' as the REAL dark horse.
** The group itself could qualify in the context of the Hip-Hop scene. Their success came out of nowhere, nobody expected them to last as long as they did, and this is in spite of their lack of respect from the industry.
* EpilepticTrees: Fan theories about the group's misfortunes being linked to their obsession with the Ouija board, the DealWithTheDevil being among these things.
** Not to mention the speculation that they are cursed, because a lot of their collaboration partners are dead.
*** Their mentor Eazy-E (Layzie has openly accused this of being the product of an evil conspiracy, and not without good questions)

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* BaseBreaker: Bizzy Bone. And later on Krayzie as well after people started to blame him for the artistic direction of the group, for better or for worse.
* BrokenBase: And how!! Read the entry for an example.
* ContractualPurity: After "Tha Crossroads", much to the chagrin of fans that prefer their darker, harder stuff.
*
EnsembleDarkHorse: It's highly debatable how to view this regarding Krayzie and Bizzy. Many see one or both of them as darkhorses relating to the group's overall popularity, but then there are those who consider them the popular ones and instead see ''[[TakeAThirdOption Flesh]]'' as the REAL dark horse.
**
The group itself could qualify in the context of the Hip-Hop scene. Their success came out of nowhere, nobody expected them to last as long as they did, and this is in spite of their lack of respect from the industry.
* EpilepticTrees: Fan theories about the group's misfortunes being linked to their obsession with the Ouija board, the DealWithTheDevil being among these things.
**
board. Not to mention the speculation that they are cursed, because a lot of their collaboration partners are dead.
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dead. Their mentor Eazy-E (Layzie has openly accused this of being the product of an evil conspiracy, and not without good questions)



* {{Fan Hater}}s: Mostly from embittered dissenters…
* FanMyopia: It goes both ways actually…if that's even possible.
* FauxSymbolism
* FirstInstallmentWins: ''Creepin On Ah Come Up''
* GrowingTheBeard: As far as lyrics and subject matter, although there are some fans who could care less about this and would rather have the simplistic violent dark lyrics about murder.


*** [[TupacShakur 2Pac]]
*** NotoriousBIG

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*** [[TupacShakur [[Music/TupacShakur 2Pac]]
*** NotoriousBIGMusic/TheNotoriousBIG


* MagnumOpus: ''East. 1999 Eternal'', some say ''The Art Of War''.


** That same interview, Bizzy answered a couple of things that Flesh and Layzie were saying. One was the idea that he was working with them on an album called ''Majority Rules'', which he basically said he had no knowledge of and thinks they were just retorting feeling attacked by Krayzie's comments. The other was Flesh in general snapping against Krayzie and accusing him and Wish of having jealousy and hatred for Bizzy. His speculation? Flesh is snapping because he has no idea what's going on. Say what you will about how eccentric and erratic Gambino gets at times, the man's sympathy and loyalty towards his brothers even in tough times is impressive.

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** That same interview, Bizzy answered a couple of things that Flesh and Layzie were saying. One was the idea that he was working with them on an album called ''Majority Rules'', which he basically said he had no knowledge of and thinks they were just retorting feeling attacked by Krayzie's comments. The other was Flesh in general snapping against Krayzie and accusing him and Wish of having jealousy and hatred for Bizzy. His speculation? Flesh is snapping because he has no idea what's going on. Say what you will about how eccentric and erratic Gambino Biz gets at times, the man's sympathy and loyalty towards his brothers even in tough times is impressive.


** That same interview, Bizzy answered a couple of things that Flesh and Layzie were saying. One was the idea that he was working with them on an album called ''Majority Rules'', which he basically said he had no knowledge of and thinks they were just retorting feeling attacked by Krayzie's comments. The other was Flesh in general snapping against Krayzie and accusing him and Wish of having jealousy and hatred for Bizzy. His speculation? Flesh is snapping because he has no idea what's going on. Say what you will about how eccentric and erratic he gets at times, the man's sympathy and loyalty towards his brothers even in tough times is impressive.

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** That same interview, Bizzy answered a couple of things that Flesh and Layzie were saying. One was the idea that he was working with them on an album called ''Majority Rules'', which he basically said he had no knowledge of and thinks they were just retorting feeling attacked by Krayzie's comments. The other was Flesh in general snapping against Krayzie and accusing him and Wish of having jealousy and hatred for Bizzy. His speculation? Flesh is snapping because he has no idea what's going on. Say what you will about how eccentric and erratic he Gambino gets at times, the man's sympathy and loyalty towards his brothers even in tough times is impressive.


** That same interview, Bizzy answers a couple of things that Flesh and Layzie were saying. One is the idea that he's working with them on an album called ''Majority Rules'', which he basically said he had no knowledge of and thinks they were just retorting feeling attacked by Krayzie's comments. The other is Flesh in general snapping against Krayzie and accusing him and Wish of having hatred for Bizzy. His speculation? Flesh is snapping because he has no idea what's going on. Say what you will about how eccentric and erratic he gets at times, the man's sympathy and loyalty towards his brothers even in tough times is impressive.

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** That same interview, Bizzy answers answered a couple of things that Flesh and Layzie were saying. One is was the idea that he's he was working with them on an album called ''Majority Rules'', which he basically said he had no knowledge of and thinks they were just retorting feeling attacked by Krayzie's comments. The other is was Flesh in general snapping against Krayzie and accusing him and Wish of having jealousy and hatred for Bizzy. His speculation? Flesh is snapping because he has no idea what's going on. Say what you will about how eccentric and erratic he gets at times, the man's sympathy and loyalty towards his brothers even in tough times is impressive.

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** That same interview, Bizzy answers a couple of things that Flesh and Layzie were saying. One is the idea that he's working with them on an album called ''Majority Rules'', which he basically said he had no knowledge of and thinks they were just retorting feeling attacked by Krayzie's comments. The other is Flesh in general snapping against Krayzie and accusing him and Wish of having hatred for Bizzy. His speculation? Flesh is snapping because he has no idea what's going on. Say what you will about how eccentric and erratic he gets at times, the man's sympathy and loyalty towards his brothers even in tough times is impressive.


* SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments: Most of the time when a hip hop artist samples an older artist's work from a different genre, the most acknowledgement that original artist gets is liner note credit. When BTNH sampled Music/PhilCollins' "Take Me Home" chorus and instrumental for their introspective song "Home", they decided to actually fly to where he was staying in Switzerland in order to feature him in the music video. Despite taking a hit when [=VH1=] treated it as a BigLippedAlligatorMoment, the song was popular enough in the United Kingdom and niche circles elsewhere that they decided to make Collins an honorary Bone Thug member under the name "Chrome Bone".

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* SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments: SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments:
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Most of the time when a hip hop artist samples an older artist's work from a different genre, the most acknowledgement that original artist gets is liner note credit. When BTNH sampled Music/PhilCollins' "Take Me Home" chorus and instrumental for their introspective song "Home", they decided to actually fly to where he was staying in Switzerland in order to feature him in the music video. Despite taking a hit when [=VH1=] treated it as a BigLippedAlligatorMoment, the song was popular enough in the United Kingdom and niche circles elsewhere that they decided to make Collins an honorary Bone Thug member under the name "Chrome Bone".Bone".
** The entire EnsembleDarkhorse InternetBackdraft as well as occasional creative differences and departures involving Krayzie and Bizzy also has this as an aspect, particularly in how the two themselves handle it when it comes to answering questions in interviews and whatnot. They both will admit that things tend to go wrong business-wise sometimes but openly disavow the idea of personal animosity or jealousy towards one another every single time. In particular, after Krayzie's controversial departure videos in spring 2011, Bizzy was once asked if he thinks Krayzie and Wish are jealous of him. His response?
--> "That probably is perhaps the stupidest question that anybody could ever ask me. But, you know, I'm not gonna answer a stupid question wit' a stupid answer, and just really just say…man, hell nah! That's just dumber than a bag of nickels. It's just dumb, man. Fuck nah!"


* EnsembleDarkhorse: It's highly debatable how to view this regarding Krayzie and Bizzy. Many see one or both of them as darkhorses relating to the group's overall popularity, but then there are those who consider them the popular ones and instead see ''[[TakeAThirdOption Flesh]]'' as the REAL darkhorse.

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* EnsembleDarkhorse: EnsembleDarkHorse: It's highly debatable how to view this regarding Krayzie and Bizzy. Many see one or both of them as darkhorses relating to the group's overall popularity, but then there are those who consider them the popular ones and instead see ''[[TakeAThirdOption Flesh]]'' as the REAL darkhorse.dark horse.


* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: The ''Eternal'' album universally speaking. For the core fanbase it also includes ''The Art Of War''.
* SugarWiki/AwesomeMoments: ''Strength & Loyalty'' album. Went gold when no other rappers from their era was going gold. Not only that but with just 3/5 of the group no less.



* SugarWiki/AwesomeMoments: ''Strength & Loyalty'' album. Went gold when no other rappers from their era was going gold. Not only that but with just 3/5 of the group no less.
* SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments: Most of the time when a hip hop artist samples an older artist's work from a different genre, the most acknowledgement that original artist gets is liner note credit. When BTNH sampled Music/PhilCollins' "Take Me Home" chorus and instrumental for their introspective song "Home", they decided to actually fly to where he was staying in Switzerland in order to feature him in the music video. Despite taking a hit when [=VH1=] treated it as a BigLippedAlligatorMoment, the song was popular enough in the United Kingdom and niche circles elsewhere that they decided to make Collins an honorary Bone Thug member under the name "Chrome Bone".
* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: The ''Eternal'' album universally speaking. For the core fanbase it also includes ''The Art Of War''.


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* SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments: Most of the time when a hip hop artist samples an older artist's work from a different genre, the most acknowledgement that original artist gets is liner note credit. When BTNH sampled Music/PhilCollins' "Take Me Home" chorus and instrumental for their introspective song "Home", they decided to actually fly to where he was staying in Switzerland in order to feature him in the music video. Despite taking a hit when [=VH1=] treated it as a BigLippedAlligatorMoment, the song was popular enough in the United Kingdom and niche circles elsewhere that they decided to make Collins an honorary Bone Thug member under the name "Chrome Bone".

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* FauxSymbolism


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* SignatureSong: Thuggish Ruggish Bone, and Tha Crossroads.


* EnsembleDarkhorse: It's highly debatable how to view this regarding Krayzie and Bizzy. Many see one or both of them as darkhorses relating to the group's overall popularity, but there are also those who consider them the popular ones and also see ''[[TakeAThirdOption Flesh]]'' as the REAL darkhorse.

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* EnsembleDarkhorse: It's highly debatable how to view this regarding Krayzie and Bizzy. Many see one or both of them as darkhorses relating to the group's overall popularity, but then there are also those who consider them the popular ones and also instead see ''[[TakeAThirdOption Flesh]]'' as the REAL darkhorse.

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