History YMMV / BambiII

* ClicheStorm: One of the main criticisms cite for the film is that the story is a rather predictable, by-the-numbers and childish [[WellDoneSonGuy "Wayward son tries to earn the approval of his]] [[ParentsAsPeople stern, emotionally aloof father]]" plot, a story thats been done before by several other Disney cartoons (in fact, ''[[Disney/TheEmperorsNewGroove Kronks New Groove]]'', which was released just a year before ''Bambi II'', had just such a plot as its conflict, albiet [[PlayedForLaughs presented in a more comical way]]) and way too many live action movies to count.

* ClicheStorm: One of the main problems critics cite for the film is that the story is a rather predictable, by-the-numbers [[WellDoneSonGuy "Wayward son tries to earn the approval of his]] [[ParentsAsPeople stern, emotionally aloof father]]" plot, a story thats been done before by several other Disney cartoons (in fact, ''[[Disney/TheEmperorsNewGroove Kronks New Groove]]'', which was released just a year before ''Bambi II'', had just such a plot as its conflict, albiet in a more comical way) and way too many live action movies to count.

* ClicheStorm: One of the main problems critics cite for the film is that the story is a rather predictable, by-the-numbers [[WellDoneSonGuy "Wayward son tries to earn the approval of his]] [[ParentsAsPeople stern, emotionally aloof father]]" plot, a story thats been done before by several other Disney cartoons (in fact, ''WesternAnimation/KronksNewGroove'', which was released just a year before ''Bambi II'', had just such a plot as its conflict, albiet in a more comical way) and way too many live action movies to count.

* ContestedSequel: Downplayed. While it's near unanimously agreed that the first ''Bambi'' is a far bigger milestone as a film and an animated work, some fans contest they prefer ''Bambi II'' due to its more uplifting tone and rounded characters. Others detest it for that very reason, deeming it a more childish ClicheStorm compared to the more nuanced and artistic direction of the first film. It is at least often regarded as one of ''Disney Toon Studios''' most effortful attempts at a follow-up film, though whether that is saying much is also up for debate.

* ContestedSequel: Downplayed. While it's near unanimously agreed that the first ''Bambi'' is far more noteworthy as a film and animated work, some fans contest they prefer ''Bambi II'' due to its more uplifting tone and rounded characters. Others detest it for that very reason, deeming it a more childish ClicheStorm compared to the subtle and revolutionary storytelling of the first film. It is at least often regarded as one of ''Disney Toon Studios''' most effortful attempts at a follow-up film, though whether that is saying much is also up for debate.

* ContestedSequel: ''Bambi II'', while rarely considered ''better'' than the original film, tends to be rather divisive with fans. It is at least often regarded as one of ''Disney Toon Studios''' most effortful attempts at a follow-up film.

* CounterpartComparison: Though Ronno is the older character, his portrayal in this film often gets compared to Kovu in ''Disney/TheLionKingIISimbasPride''. They both look alike and have similar personalities, though Ronno doesn't mellow down like Kovu.

* HeartwarmingInHindsight: Prior to ''Bambi II'', PatrickStewart had wanted a role in a Disney film for nearly two decades, but other projects got in the way. He ended up voicing a character from one of Disney's most iconic franchises (and Walt Disney's own self considered MagnumOpus).

* FanDislikedExplanation: Most detractors of ''Bambi II's'' more thorough CharacterDevelopment of the cast (especially of [[BrokenAce the Great Prince]] and [[AlwaysSecondBest Ronno]]) stem from the fact that the first film was primarily an environmental perspective piece with elements and characters [[TheyPlottedAPerfectlyGoodWaste intentionally left ambiguous and vague]]. The broader characterizations have some fans on the other hand, with some of them believing it to be BetterThanCanon.

** NarmCharm: The one thing that salvages the above scene is the Great Prince's genuinely heartwrenching reaction to it (sure, the ''audience'' knows Bambi is going to live, but the Prince doesn't) and him and his son finally bonding for good after Bambi reveals he survived.

* {{Sequelitis}}: [[DownplayedTrope Downplayed]]. No one is in any hurry to call Bambi II a bad movie and its often considered one of the better Disney direct-to-video films, but you won't find many who think it's on the same league as the original film either, being a somewhat effortful BTeamSequel to [[ToughActToFollow one of Disney's first and most iconic and revolutionary animated movies]].

* {{Sequelitis}}: [[DownplayedTrope Downplayed]]. No one is in any hurry to call Bambi II a bad movie and its often considered one of the better Disney direct-to-video films, but you won't find many who think its a worthy follow up to the original film either. Its generally just considered an average film at best.

* VisualEffectsOfAwesome: The midquel also set itself apart from most Disney sequel fare by having an impressive animation budget. Some of the forest shots are as lush as the original film and some impressively animated panning shots are used.

* {{Sequelitis}}: Downplayed. No one is in any hurry to call Bambi II a bad movie and its often considered one of the better Disney direct-to-video films, but you won't find many who think its a worthy follow up to the original film either, and its generally just consider it an average film at past.

* {{Narm}}: Bambi's DisneyDeath at the end is so painfully forced and cliche, that its very difficult to take it seriously, especially since you'd know from the ending of the first film that, [[ForegoneConclusion no, he's not really going to die.]] The only thing that salvages it is the Great Prince's genuinely heartwrenching reaction to it.

* FanDislikedExplanation: Most detractors of ''Bambi II's'' more thorough CharacterDevelopment of the cast (especially of [[BrokenAce the Great Prince]] and [[AlwaysSecondBest Ronno]]) stem from the fact that the first film was primarily an environmental perspective piece with elements and characters [[TheyPlottedAPerfectlyGoodWaste intentionally left ambiguous and vague]]. The broader characterizations have some fans on the other hand.

* FanDislikedExplanation: Most detractors of ''Bambi II's'' more thorough CharacterDevelopment of the cast (especially of [[BrokenAce the Great Prince]] and [[AlwaysSecondBest Ronno]]) stem from the fact that the first film was primarily an environmental perspective piece with elements and characters [[TheyPlottedAPerfectlyGoodWaste intentionally left ambiguous and vague]]. The broader characterizations have some fans, however, making it BetterThanSource for them.

* FanDislikedExplanation: Most detractors of ''Bambi II's'' more thorough CharacterDevelopment of the cast (especially of [[BrokenAce the Great Prince]] and [[AlwaysSecondBest Ronno]]) stem from the fact that the first film was primarily an environmental perspective piece with elements and characters [[TheyPlottedAPerfectlyGoodWaste intentionally left ambiguous and vague]]. The broader characterizations have some fans, however, making it BetterThanCanon for them.

* DracoInLeatherPants: Ronno tends to get portrayed a lot more sympathetically in fanfiction than he is in the movie(s), where hes a [[HateSink unsympathetic bully]] who only got worse as he got older.

* FoeYayShipping: Its fairly popular in fanart and fanfics to ship Bambi and Ronno together, even though the two get along like a forest on fire in the movies.

* UnintentionallySympathetic: Ronno to a fault. Yes, he's [[HateSink clearly meant to be unsympathetic]], as he's a cocky bully and lying coward who deserved to be taken down a peg or two and absolutely crossed the line by goading Bambi into a fight by making fun of his dad sending him to live with a stepmom, which indirectly nearly got both Bambi and Mena killed. But he's also playing second fiddle to a younger fawn who, in his eyes, [[PrivilegedRival was born with a silver wheat in his mouth]] and seemingly ups him at everything he does without effort, and its implied that his bullying and fragile, haughty ego is a result of a FriendlessBackground (however, its entirely possible it was the other way around and his attitude as is isn't helping his case). And the aforementioned bit of nearly getting Bambi and Mena killed by hunting dogs was a complete accident on his part and him running off, while cowardly, was something he was specifically told to do by Mena. While it does '''not''' excuse any of actions, its at least somewhat understandable why he'd act like such an horses ass, hence why he [[DracoInLeatherPants tends to get more sympathetic treatment in fanfiction.]]

* UnintentionallySympathetic: Ronno to a fault. Yes, he's [[HateSink clearly meant to be unsympathetic]], as he's a cocky bully and lying coward who deserved to be taken down a peg or two and absolutely crossed the line by goading Bambi into a fight by making fun of his dad sending him to live with a stepmom, which indirectly nearly got both Bambi and Mena killed. But he's also playing second fiddle to a younger fawn who, in his eyes, [[PrivilegedRival was born with a silver wheat in his mouth]] and seemingly ups him at everything he does without effort, and its implied that his bullying and fragile, haughty ego is a result of a FriendlessBackground (however, its entirely possible it was the other way around and his attitude as is isn't helping his case). While it does '''not''' excuse any of actions, its at least somewhat understandable why he'd act like such an horses ass, hence why he [[DracoInLeatherPants tends to get more sympathetic treatment in fanfiction.]]

* AwesomeArt: The midquel had a surprisingly large budget for most DTV fare (enough to gain a theatrical release in several regions), resulting in animation and visuals that can ''almost'' match the original. Having Andreas Deja supervise certainly helped.
* AwesomeMusic: Bruce Broughton tries his very best to match the elegance of the first film's soundtrack in the {{Interquel}}, and doesn't do too bad a job at it. The {{Leitmotif}} that [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PSAsYPUuDY represents Bambi and the Great Prince's relationship is particularly moving]].

* CounterpartComparison: Though Ronno is the older character, his portrayal in this film often gets compared to Kovu in ''Disney/TheLionKingIISimbasPride''. They both look alike and have similar personalities, though Kovu doesn't mellow down like Ronno.