History YMMV / BTS

** "Dynamite" and what it means for BTS as a BlackSheepHit, being their first English single, with lyrics lacking their distinctive lyricism due to not being written by the members... and their first #1 hit on Billboard and Grammy-nominated song. A great, charming song that perfectly achieves its purpose of bringing joy in a style that remains true to BTS and tributes Michael Jackson and the disco genre, a song with cheesy lyrics that marks a precedent for BTS needing to "dumb their music down" and make it in English to truly receive attention in the US industry, or a complex mix of both?

** Your ARMY experience will vary depending on the social media platform you use the most. Twitter [=ARMYs=] (where the fandom is the most organized) are the most critical of fans from other platforms, particularly Facebook and Instagram [=ARMYs=], where the fandom is far less regulated and therefore stereotypical "toxic/obsessive fan" behavior abounds, while Twitter [=ARMYs=] are seen in some places as overly combative or records-obsessed. There's an increasing amount of fans crossing over into other platforms and more information circulating in both ways, though, so the differences are diminishing.
*** To a lesser extent, Youtube [=ARMYs=]. Youtube is one of the main platforms (if not ''the'' main platform) where people learn about BTS, the fandom and its in-jokes; it's also one of the main sources of the so-called "no jams" behavior (see DiscreditedMeme and NeverLiveItDown below), and where misinformation easily abounds. Some fans also have a tendency to upload songs with often-reposted-and-uncredited English translations (affecting views in official videos), even when it's completely unnecessary[[note]]almost all of BTS' music videos have official English subtitles upon release[[/note]] - these are, however, also an important entry to the fandom, especially in the case of Soundcloud-only songs like "DDAENG".
** Similarly (and in a way that often overlaps with the above), your fandom experience might vary a lot if you frequent more multi-fandom kpop circles[[note]]that is, circles of people who follow 2 or more kpop groups[[/note]] than purely ARMY ones - given the history between ARMY and other kpop fandoms (see FandomRivalry for details), staying only or even mainly in multifandom circles will almost surely make you miss out on (or at least get a very skewed or incomplete version of) complex discussions within ARMY Twitter - with ARMY-multis becoming somewhat infamous for tending to have a shallow understanding of several issues, as well as sometimes projecting issues of other fandoms, groups, and/or companies towards ARMY, BTS, and/or [=BigHit=] (or at least assuming those issues also apply on the latter).

** The presence of a VocalMinority that goes out of their way to paint [=BigHit=] as a company that "mistreats" the members (see MisaimedFandom), along with by parts of Twitter (often multis and/or fan artists, aka. people who in an attempt to stay out of drama often end up missing out on bigger fandom conversations) making blanket anti-capitalist statements about the company [[note]]("all big companies treat their artists like X, therefore [=BigHit=] does it too", or using superficial notions of "capitalism" as an argument to demand lower prices for merch[[/note]], has made other parts of the fandom extremely wary of criticism of the company even if they come for a more genuine critical position - while anyone who defends [=BigHit=] or their practices is quickly labeled by the former as a "company stan" who supposedly cares more about the company than the members. This has all led to generalizations of and knee-jerk reactions among different parts of the fandom on Twitter.
* CargoShip: [[http://33.media.tumblr.com/7a6ff1961076d15ef1c6e23b1ba7de93/tumblr_nnzap9U9JT1tkj9elo4_250.gif Suga and trophies.]]
* DiscreditedMeme: While you'll be forgiven if you're a new fan, old jokes like "you got no jams" and "infires man" won't exactly make you popular on Twitter, as they've been repeated to death in social media. The fans who still rely on them (most often seen in places like Youtube or Amino) are referred to on Twitter as, appropriately enough, "no jams" (though it's also sometimes used to refer to other types of less-than-ideal fan behavior).
** Certain ones, like calling certain members old nicknames like "god of destruction", "alien/4D", "horse" or "mom/[[GratuitousForeignLanguage eonma]]/pink princess", are seen as horribly {{Flanderiz|ation}}ing or outright insulting in various ways, with members vocally expressing dislike for some of them. The fact that they've been ''very'' prevalent in fan-made "introduction to the members" videos partly explains the less-than-positive perception of Youtube [=ARMYs=] on Twitter. See also NeverLiveItDown below.

** Jokes about Jin and RM's dancing skills, which not only have proven to be actually hurtful to them according to interviews, but have also become very outdated; both members have been able to keep up with the rest when dancing as a group even since debut, and they have improved a lot since.
* EnsembleDarkhorse: Regarding songs, Cyphers 2 and 3, "Tomorrow", "Bapsae[=/=]Silver Spoon", "Whalien 52", "Butterfly", "House of Cards", "Magic Shop" and "Outro: Tear" are some side-tracks that are very popular in the fandom.
** "Pied Piper", "134340", "Love Maze" and "Paradise" are fan-favorites that have never been performed on tour.
** All of the solo tracks for the ''LOVE YOURSELF'' series ("Serendipity", "Singularity", "Euphoria" and "Epiphany" for the singers, "Just Dance", "Love" and "Seesaw" for the rappers) are incredibly popular in their own ways. "Euphoria" even appeared in the "Bubbling Under 100" Billboard list after ''Answer'' was released!
** Fans have ''begged'' for Soundcloud-only tracks like "DDAENG", "4 o'clock", "Promise" or "Still With You" to be released on Spotify and paid platforms - or even as singles - due to their charting potential (particularly "DDAENG").
*** Notably, a short clip of 3 women twerking set to SUGA's verse from "DDAENG" has more than 100 million views on Twitter.
*** Jimin's "Promise" managed to shatter the record for most streams on Soundcloud during the first 24 hours. This record was set by none other than ''Music/{{Drake}}'', who was surpassed again with V's "Scenery".
** From ''MAP OF THE SOUL: PERSONA'', there's "HOME", "Mikrokosmos", and "Dionysus", none of which became a single (though "Dionysus" has a choreography). "HOME" in particular stands out for its popularity in the fandom despite also never being performed on tour.
** From ''MAP OF THE SOUL: 7'', all of the members' solo tracks are very popular, though "Filter" and "My Time" stand out for being global chart-toppers for all of 2020. There's also "We are Bulletproof: The Eternal" and "Louder than Bombs", the latter of which many fans want to see a live performance of.

** All of the side tracks of ''BE'' are very popular in their own right, but special mention goes to "Dis-ease" and "Blue and Grey." The bridge of "Dis-ease" even gained its own fanbase amongst [=ARMYs=], and "Blue and Grey" is especially notable due to selling ''100K'' units on [=iTunes=] in the first week it of its release, and even outdid title tracks "Dynamite" and "Life Goes On" in some regions.

** The opening instrumentals of "Baepsae[=/=]Silver Spoon", which repeat at various times.

** Any assumptions based on GirlShowGhetto: that they're only popular because of their looks, that their work has no depth whatsoever, or that their fanbase is made exclusively of teenage girls and fans of One Direction who jumped ship during their hiatus, when there are fans of all ages, genders and music tastes.

** Similarly, conflating them with the rest of the Korean idol industry and the Hallyu phenomenon, treating them as nothing more than a government strategy to promote Korean media or values, or (especially recently) dragging them into narratives about the "dark side of Kpop" (such as articles or videos having BTS as the thumbnail). Not only do they come from a small company, having to fight tooth-and-nail to achieve their success, but their work (which is very much an outlier both in sales and in artistry) has consistently criticized Korean society and dealt with topics that are stigmatized in the country such as mental health. Their success overseas was already established ''before'' they actively started promoting in the West, being more of a product of their work resonating with a Western audience than a pre-planned goal.

** One topic that has become a very specific example is the idea that the fandom made a petition clamoring for the South Korean government to grant BTS exemption from South Korea's obligatory military enlistment [[note]]all South Korean adult males in conditions must serve in the military during a 1-2 year period[[/note]]. This idea originated from an article on enlistment written by Tamar Herman for ''Billboard'' mid-2018, which made this claim in passing. Problem is ([[https://twitter.com/BTS_ARMY_INT/status/1022506780914581505 as explained here]]), the topic only arose from one Korean politician talking about exemption based on artistic contributions, doing so due to unsourced "requests", which ''media'' linked to an existing petition (the one cited by Herman in later tweets). This petition had (at the moment of the article's release) barely around '''''20''''' signatures, half of which only did so to leave disagreeing comments. This was after there had already been discussions in the fandom on Twitter (in and outside of Korea) noting what a controversial topic military exemption would be [[note]]seeing a celebrity being exempt from a duty that all other male citizens must do wouldn't be received positively by the Korean male populace[[/note]].
*** In the same vein, the overwhelmingly negative reaction from fans to the article was directed at Herman's CriticalResearchFailure of the subject (which involved amateur translations) and misrepresentation of the fandom (which wasn't even the first case for her), rather than the reaction being an attempt to cover up the petition (which, again, had barely 2 digits of signatures) or (as she later claimed) accusing her of "making up" the petition.
** Accusing the fandom of thinking that any use of the color purple is plagiarism - what the fandom doesn't take kindly is the use of the ''phrase'' "I purple you" by other fandoms to their idols, due to being specifically created by V in 2016 to refer to BTS and ARMY (so it wouldn't even make sense outside of that, especially to other idols).
** Due to the influx of new fans in the ''LOVE YOURSELF'' and ''MOTS'' eras, Armys who refuse to listen to BTS' older music has become one.

* GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff: The group was notoriously quicker in growing an international fanbase than in their home country, including countries like the US, Philippines, India, and the South American region; the crowd reaction to BTS in the 2014 KCON in LA is considered one of the earliest signs. In Korea, the general public and the media (aside from idol-centered shows) only started to really pay attention to BTS around 2017, particularly by the end of that year ''after'' their various US achievements and their performances at the MAMA and MMA award shows.

** While all the members have their fans in the US, the rap line seems to be ''very'' popular in the US fandom in comparison to Korea, especially with rap fans. Similarly, V is very popular among R&B fans due to "Stigma" and "Singularity", with both groups often converging.
*** BTS' HipHop[=/=]RAndB influenced-music and respect for both genres and their culture in general have gained them a lot of black audiences.
* GirlShowGhetto: Almost par for the course for a Korean Boyband. BTS tends to be dismissed by Western media and the general public as just another group of pretty boys followed by a mindless, screaming GroupieBrigade who just like pretty faces - despite the fact that the first thing most fans will name as a reason to love BTS is their music and ''lyrics'' (which often talk about social and political issues, some of which are even taboo in Korea), with BTS' music being much more strongly influenced by Western HipHop (as well as other genres) than by Western boybands or even other Kpop groups. Not to mention that, while the visible majority of fans are female, the fandom is ''very'' diverse in genders, ages and nationalities.

* GrowingTheBeard: While the albums before it were ''far'' from bad - many tracks of that era are beloved to this day -, it's maybe around the ''The Most Beautiful Moment in Life'' series where they really established a solid identity, expanding their predominantly [=Hip-Hop/R&B=] sound into other genres to build a diverse-yet-still-coherent pop sound[[note]]for example, "I Need U", "Dope", "Butterfly", "Fire", "Save Me" and "Young Forever" are all from that era alone[[/note]], as well as introducing grander, darker, more mature narratives into their music and concepts, along with more ambitious storytelling - including the introduction of the Music/BTSUniverse. It was also the point where BTS finally ditched their eyeliner-heavy "bad boy"[=/=]PrettyFlyForAWhiteGuy image in favor of a more natural look and attitude.

** ''FACE YOURSELF'' (particularly "Let Go", though whether there's an actual connection has never been confirmed), parts of the 2018 BTS Festa and possibly anything from early 2018 can become either this or HeartwarmingInHindsight, after the members revealed at their 2018 MAMA Artist of the Year Award speech that they struggled a lot emotionally at the beginning of the year under the overwhelming pressure to continue giving flawless performances after their international achievements in 2017, to the point that they talked about disbanding.
** SUGA's verse in "Spring Day" hits even harder after the release of ''D-2'''s final track "Dear my friend", where SUGA details the story of a real long-lasting friendship that ended, and talks about how he still mourns it - with a verse being a CallBack to his "Spring Day" lines.

** Part this and HeartwarmingInHindsight: The underdog anthem "Not Today" is inspired by Aragorn's RousingSpeech in the film adaptation of the third book of ''Literature/TheLordOfTheRings'', one of the defining works of the HighFantasy genre. "Not today" is part of a famous quote[[labelnote:Full quote]]"What do we say to the god of death?" "Not today."[[/labelnote]] from ''Series/GameOfThrones'', the adaptation of [[Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire the most high-profile fantasy work of the 2010s]]; it's also associated with Arya Stark, who not only was played by known ARMY Creator/MaisieWilliams, but, in the final season (aired 2 years after the song's release), [[spoiler:wins the otherwise hopeless battle of humanity against the White Walkers by killing the Night King, with Melisandre and her making a CallBack to that very line]].

* HoYay / {{Shipping}}: A given for a Korean boy band. All of the members seem to have NoSenseOfPersonalSpace. (see BrokenBase above, though). [[HoYay/{{BTS}} Now with their own page]].
* ItsPopularNowItSucks: BTS' popularity and entrance to the international mainstream starting from 2015 has led increasingly more people (mainly Kpop fans) to declare that the group has become "too big" - with some even saying they liked them better as underdogs - or that other groups are equally or more deserving of their success. It quickly reached the point that whenever a popular channel/[=Twitter=] account/anything makes a video or a post about BTS, it will invariably be bombarded with comments talking about BTS being overrated and/or asking people to check other ("better") Kpop groups (even though the reasons [=ARMYs=] like BTS and the reasons kpop fans like kpop are not the same).

** Every single member seems to get this to some degree in various sides of the community - from parts of Twitter proclaiming J-Hope as a bisexual icon to the various memes portraying Jungkook theoretically stomping on homophobes and [=TERFs=].

** Other songs like "Outro:Tear" (directed at the members of the band during their difficult time in 2018) and "My Time" (about longing for a normal life and being unable to stop time) have been misinterpreted as being directed towards a lover, in spite of the meanings of the songs having been explained.
** There's a VocalMinority of "fans" who twist or selectively pick moments where a specific member[[note]]different factions focus on one member in particular, but there's one for every member[[/note]] has expressed slight disagreements or has been supposedly "disrespected" or "mistreated" by the company or other members (which are either incidents that can be argued as minor mishaps - as it's natural in a company -, decisions the members made themselves, or problems that are not problems anymore since they have been fixed over the years, such as line distribution), and pressure other fans into agreeing that said member is being mistreated by accusing them of "not caring enough" about said member if they don't; the more extreme ones[[note]](often fans of only a single member and/or fans of other kpop groups, who therefore - being remnants of kpop fan-like mentality - project other groups' issues onto BTS)[[/note]] insist that their preferred member isn't being allowed to release solo work and that they should go solo and leave the company; all of this while ignoring the members' actual (recent) statements about those subjects and about how much they enjoy working under the company and with each other - and how some members have only recently started to work more seriously in solo projects and have expressed not feeling confident enough about their work to release a full project soon.

*** This vocal minority also has the tendency to claim the fandom doesn't care about a specific member (again, this kind of minority exists '''for every single member'''), guilt-tripping and demotivating fans in the process, and to target big Twitter accounts that actually contribute to the fandom and fandom projects (translators, accounts that promote voting or organizing, etc.), make "expose" threads with selective, out of context information, and harass them and the people who follow them. It doesn't help that the projects they tend to guilt trip the fandom into participating in are often things that create unnecessary competition between different members and, all things considered, don't matter in the long run[[note]](such as competitively streaming on Soundcloud, despite members releasing songs on there only to for fans to ''enjoy'' for free, with Soundcloud being different to other streaming platforms; or brand reputation rankings, which aside from redundant have dubious methodology, being run by one guy and not a serious organization)[[/note]], making it all wasted energy.

** Any time one of the rappers opens ''his'' mouth to rap. Also, they may pretend to be bad at singing, but in actuality, they've got some pretty good vocal chops. Take RM's low, soothing vocals in his ''mono.'' playlist, SUGA's vocals in "Trivia: Seesaw," and any live performance of "Spring Day" where j-hope sings the beginning verses.

*** RM is one of the most affected by this; you'd (almost) be forgiven for thinking his entire personality consists of being 1. smart, and 2. clumsy. The most egregious part, though? '''"Expensive girl"''', which, despite the fact ''it's actually a cover'' [[note]]the original is "Take It Off (Dim the Lights)" by Pharrell Williams[[/note]] he did back when he was 18, some fans in Youtube keep recommending to newcomers instead of much more representative work like ''RM'' or ''mono.''.

** In a different way, the group's and particularly RM's [[PrettyFlyForAWhiteGuy hair/fashion choices and attitude]] and [[UnfortunateImplications less than sensitive lyrics and comments]] from their early years. He has acknowledged these and quite explicitly refers to them as OldShame, making efforts to improve along with the other members (he even has his lyrics reviewed by feminist scholars now, as well as songs with GenderNeutralWriting), but many Kpop fans surely won't let anyone forget it. You'd be surprised by the fact that he went as far as changing some lyrics for the US performances of "Fake Love" due to the words for "I" and "you" ''sounding'' like the N-word, considering how much his name keeps popping up in ''any'' discussion about Kpop idols having problematic behavior (see "but namjoon" in [[Memes/{{BTS}} BTS' Memetic Mutation page]]).

* PeripheryDemographic: Though the group's music is mostly aimed at people in their teens and 20s, the fandom is very diverse, with fans of all ages and genders - reader statistics for articles about BTS on Naver often shows a majority of readers in their 30s and 40s (which, for other idol groups, typically would be teenagers by ''far''), not to mention the attention BTS has gotten from critics, producers and celebrities like Wrestling/JohnCena (a ''very'' vocal fan of the group).

* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: While not ''hated'', "So What" wasn't nearly as loved as other songs (and considered the only, or one of the only skips) from ''LOVE YOURSELF: Tear'' upon release, due to being perceived by many as a too-long SoOkayItsAverage song set near the end of an album full of riskier, more experimental tracks, coming right before fan-favorite "Outro: Tear". The song has become much more beloved since it was performed on stage in the ''LOVE YOURSELF'' Tour, being one of the songs where the members just go goofing around and having fun on stage and bringing some of the most memorable moments of the tour. The fact that other EDM or electro-dance songs (particularly from ''LOVE YOURSELF: Her'') have become VindicatedByHistory has also likely helped.

** Members have used their platform to send other messages that fans have also found encouraging, such as Jungkook encouraging fans to get out of unequal relationships, or Jin saying that other people having a hard time doesn't invalidate your hardships and doesn't make it any less okay to ask for help.

* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: BTS' experimentation with their sound, which has changed from mostly HipHop and R&B to also include other genres such as moombathon, EDM and Latin pop, has inevitably gathered this kind of reactions in some circles, especially regarding the ''LOVE YOURSELF'' series. That said, there's a particularly strange kind of criticism directed at the aforementioned series, which is that BTS now is "too Western" or "not Kpop enough" [[note]] Kpop is by definition a mix of Western genres and trends. [[/note]].

** Some people (mostly fans of Kpop in general) still clamor to this day for a return to the darker sound and HotterAndSexier (while symbolism-heavy) aesthetics of ''WINGS'' while criticizing the softer aesthetics of their later work. In particular, even though ''The Most Beautiful Moment in Life'' and ''WINGS'' ''are'' considered complex, well-made albums in their own merits, they are often propped up by non-[=ARMYs=] as their absolute best work because of this trope, being sonically gloomier and explicitly tackling topics like depression and toxic relationships (even though the latter comes up in albums before and after).

** While rivalries are awfully common in Kpop, BTS' rising popularity (rivaling and even surpassing bigger established groups) and increasingly louder fanbase (in the sense of "BTS brought me here" becoming a meme due to being so widespread) gathered negative sentiments against the group and their fans among some Kpop circles since 2015 (some say even before), [[SeriousBusiness with some even acting out]] [[DisproportionateRetribution against BTS themselves]], the worst incidents [[note]]which include ''very'' public (now disproven) accusations towards BTS of plagiarism and chart manipulation, as well as the creation or encouragement of various anti projects and malicious rumors[[/note]] involving fans of EXO and Music/BigBang. The fact that there's also a growing portion of [=ARMYs=] who declare themselves fans of ''only'' BTS (and maybe some other Korean artists) and not of Kpop as a whole partly as a consequence of the above - not to mention a new wave of fans coming from Western "stan Twitter", with all that entails - hasn't sat well with some Kpop fans. [[Administrivia.RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment It's better to leave it at that]].
*** It should be noted that some sections of the BTS fandom ''are'' friendly with other Kpop fandoms, ranging from fans who are multi-fandom, to [=ARMYs=] who also like some Korean artists (who may or may not be idols), to [=ARMYs=] who are indifferent to Korean idols, to a vocal portion of [=ARMYs=] who actively listen only to BTS; whether they also view the industry or other fandoms positively also varies. However, the biggest portion of fans on Twitter refuses to engage with the Kpop fan community at large (or at least most of it) and are very critical of the Korean idol industry in general, even ''if'' they like the artists themselves.

** The creation of the supergroup, Music/{{SuperM}} has not made [=ARMYs=] happy to say the least. Many have argued that this group was formed out of spite of BTS and their popularity, and believe that SM entertainment wanted to make this group to replicate their international success. The controversial strategy used by SM to get into the US charts - which, among other things, included a ''very'' high amount of bundling (digital albums sold at a lower price by bundling it with merch) to increase sale numbers - certainly hasn't helped, as the almost nonexistent use of bundles during the 2 years of promotions in the US is a point of pride for [=ARMYs=] [[note]]The only instance of use of bundling was during ''LOVE YOURSELF: Answer'', with digital albums that could be redeemed after buying a ticket for [=CitiField=] and ''only'' that venue. Most of the albums were redeemed the ''second'' week (after ''Answer'' had already secured #1 on BB 200), and this was after BTS had ''already'' gotten a #1 album on Billboard 200 with ''LOVE YOURSELF: Tear''.[[/note]], and many find that SM's practice set a negative precedent that could add further to the already-existing prejudice against the legitimacy of foreign (particularly Asian) artists in the US.
** The relationship between fans of BTS and Music/{{BLACKPINK}} on Twitter became tense in 2018 due to various factors, including HypeBacklash among newer [=ARMYs=] towards BLACKPINK (due being lauded in certain circles as the most feminist Kpop group or "the female BTS"), media practices in part of YG that were questioned by [=ARMYs=], and Blinks reusing tutorials without permission. All of this quickly devolved into some people in both fandoms dissing each other's groups and some [=ARMYs=] even starting to (very vocally) criticize various rappers in female Kpop groups. The fact that a [[VocalMinority few Blink accounts]] - many of them male fans - accused [=ARMYs=] of being "anti-feminist" or "[[GirlShowGhetto men-obsessed]]" for not supporting BLACKPINK (even if they did support other girl groups) did not help matters.
*** The scandals surrounding YG and some artists have made some international fans of BLACKPINK and BIGBANG double down on the rivalry with BTS, with some even going as far as to [[https://pann-choa.blogspot.com/2019/08/theqoo-international-bigbang-fan-who.html spread misinformation just to put the blame on BTS and BigHit somehow]].

*** What '''''really''''' hasn't made things better is that some fans of other groups (but particularly the above girl groups) have also started to create Twitter accounts or change their existing ones to make [[https://twitter.com/Danaeasdf/status/1105141575460507649 deliberately offensive tweets]] while posing as [=ARMYs=], with the most infamous example being posting fancams under tweets about real-life tragedies (with comments such as "maybe if he stanned BTS, he wouldn't have died") and making BTS and [=ARMYs=] (many of which had been discouraging the use of fancams) receive the brunt of the ensuing backlash.
*** There have also been cases of people who are both in a fandom friendly to BTS' and a rival one trying to sow discord between that friendly fandom and [=ARMYs=].
** Some Music/OneDirection fans reacted badly to James Corden calling BTS "the biggest boyband" (as well as many comparisons of both groups made by media since), even trending a hashtag to show who ''really'' remains the biggest. Several have resorted to claiming that BTS' fandom is only made of fans of One Direction who jumped ship during [=1D=]'s hiatus - even though many [=ARMYs=] never listened to boybands at all before BTS. Some [=ARMYs=] have responded by either arguing back... or posting memes in [=1D=]-related hashtags.
** At the 2019 MAMA, many non-fans were not very happy that BTS won all four major daesaengs. A lot of the outrage was directed towards the fact that Boy With Luv won Song of The Year. Non-fans felt that Fancy by the girl group Twice was more deserving of the award despite Boy With Luv having a much bigger impact on the charts locally and internationally. This same thing happened in 2018, with many kpop fans clamoring for IKON's "Love Scenario" to win Song of the Year instead of "Fake Love", which actually won.

** With the [[Music/{{Beyonce}} Beyhive]] on Twitter, after a strange sequence of events. After realizing that ''LOVE YOURSELF: Tear'' was ''very'' close to beating Post Malone in getting a #1 on Billboard 200, then popular account from the black Twitter community called other Beyhive accounts to stream BTS' album to "defeat" Post Malone. This led to many of them (including said popular Twitter account) finding themselves actually ''liking'' the songs in the album, with [=ARMYs=] happily welcoming and introducing them to BTS; what's more, ''Tear'' actually debuted as #1, to the delight of both fandoms.
*** A month later (June 2018), there was a joint stream event (called by that same account) in which the two fandoms streamed both ''LOVE YOURSELF: Tear'' and the then-recently released ''EVERYTHING IS LOVE'', with both sides praising each other's music and [=ARMYs=] even analyzing the "Apes**t" music video. [[SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments Many Beyhive accounts were seen defending BTS and ARMYs against other fandoms, even against some members of the Beyhive itself]]. Even 2 years later, both fandoms have remained supportive of each others' achievements.
** A lot of BTS fans liked or at least respected Music/{{BROCKHAMPTON}}, helped by both groups making {{Shout Out}}s to each other (and BROCKHAMPTON's creative assistant being a Jimin fan)... before the allegations, at least.
*** Same goes for Music/LittleMix, who (like both groups) are also characterized by the members' creative control over their music and have also tackled social issues in songs (with Little Mix and one of the members' personal account following BTS on Instagram).
** From the Korean side, one of the few cases where both fandoms consistently act friendly (or at least civil) to each other was Music/WannaOne's, particularly after an incident in the 2017 Melon Music Awards involving members of another fandom harassing Wannables. It helps that both groups are atypical in the industry (BTS more-so in content, Wanna One in format), and consistently act friendly towards each other in award shows, with some members occasionally hanging out together and some Wanna One members being fans of BTS. When BTS confirmed their attendance to an award show at the last minute, meaning that [=ARMYs=] would not be able to go due to all tickets being sold out, Wannables decided to do the BTS fanchants in [=ARMYs=]' place. Aww.

*** Along with the above, many [=ARMYs=] on Twitter are also fans of or at least respect certain girl groups with members who write their songs and/or have more unusual images and music (especially from non-Big 3 companies), such as Music/{{EXID}} (which has an ex-underground rapper as a member) or Music/{{Mamamoo}} (who have highly skilled vocals and show a less conservative form of femininity by Korean standards).

** Then there’s the case of Music/GOT7, Music/{{Seventeen}} and Music/MonstaX, which is more complicated. In some circles, the relationship between [=ARMYs=] and those fandoms is quite friendly; with friendships existing between members of BTS and members of these groups (plus a collaboration stage at the 2015 [=MAMAs=] in the case of [=GOT7=]) and these three fandoms having a reputation for being friendly and open in general, fans often have found one through the others and a good number of multi-fandom Kpop fans like at least more than one of them. In other places such as Twitter, however, the relationship between BTS’ and these groups' fandoms is mostly neutral; while they’re not ''actively'' hostile, conflicts do arise now and then, with the three having a history of siding with other Kpop fandoms more often than not on Twitter disputes. Carats and Monbebes in particular have become more and more hostile to [=ARMYs=] in recent years.
** The [[Music/TaylorSwift Swiftie]] and the [=ARMY=] are extremely friendly toward each other since BTS are unabashedly huge fans of Taylor. For her part, Taylor is one of the few Western artists who consistently interact with them and respect their artistry.

** Even more controversially, [[YouKeepUsingThatWord "Kpop"]]. Being a long debated term in itself (notably originated in, again, Western media), it has come to be associated with ''idol'' groups rather than Korean pop music in general, with the Korean idol industry at large having a reputation of manufactured music and controversial practices that has unfortunately bled into the perception of BTS in the West. This is why many [=ARMYs=] prefer to distance BTS from the term, embracing claims from Korean critics that BTS are "beyond" or "more than" idols or Kpop. However, given BTS' proud self-labeling as both idols and artists, other fans have argued that it's no point in trying to separate BTS from Kpop, as they are still Korean idols who make Korean pop music - and that it would just be perpetuating the stereotypes that BTS and other artists are challenging.

** An [[https://www.laineygossip.com/bts-win-multiple-american-music-awards-close-show-with-performance-life-goes-on-dynamite/67521 increasing]] [[https://www.teenvogue.com/story/the-weeknd-grammy-noms-response-justin-bieber number of conversations]] have popped up regarding how, even if they do manage to grab important nominations, BTS keeps getting kept out of main categories in a manner disproportional to BTS' cultural impact and record-breaking success. Most egregiously, while there was indeed celebration for their first music-related Grammy nomination[[note]]Their very first nomination was for ''LOVE YOURSELF: Tear'' for Best Recording Package[[/note]] for their English single "Dynamite" (for Best Pop [=Duo/Group=] Performance), many pointed out how not only did BTS miss out on Record or Song of the Year nominations, but BTS' other submitted work, ''MAP OF THE SOUL: 7'' (the Korean language, Carl Jung-inspired album that heavily features their lyricism, involved global art curation projects, and is overall far more representative of their artistry than "Dynamite"), got absolutely no nominations.

** Fans have ''begged'' for Soundcloud-only tracks like "DDAENG", "4 o'clock" or "Promise" to be released on Spotify and paid platforms - or even as singles - due to their charting potential (particularly "DDAENG").

** Fans of Music/{{Skillet}} have also taken a liking to BTS, due to both bands having empowering lyrics and themes. There's even quite a number of Skillet [=FMVs=] for BTS on [=YouTube=].

** Fans of Music/{{Skillet}} have also taken a liking to BTS, due to both bands having empowering lyrics and themes. There's even quite a number of Skillet FMVs for BTS on [=YouTube=].

* {{Adorkable}}: Off-stage, they're all shy introverts, some kind of nerd/geek, loud dorks, or an endearing combination of the above. [[https://pm1.narvii.com/6694/f8881c7190cb2c8e9ee35911da1104cf86f0abbb_hq.jpg This image is a pretty accurate representation of their personalities at their most comfortable]]. It's worth noting that the picture was taken in a year-end show where ''literally everyone else'' was dressed in formal or generally cooler clothing.

** The presence of a VocalMinority that goes out of their way to paint [=BigHit=] as a company that "mistreats" the members (see MisaimedFandom), along with by parts of Twitter (often multis and/or fan artists, aka. people who in an attempt to stay out of drama often end up missing out on bigger fandom conversations) making blanket anti-capitalist statements about the company [[note]]("all big companies treat their artists like X, therefore [=BigHit=] does it too", or using superficial notions of "capitalism" as an argument to demand lower prices for merch, or quickly jumping into the idea that [=BigHit=] is becoming a monopoly when they still don't have as much influence as companies like SM or YG)[[/note]], has made other parts of the fandom extremely wary of criticism of the company even if they come for a more genuine critical position - while anyone who defends [=BigHit=] or their practices is quickly labeled by the former as a "company stan" who supposedly cares more about the company than the members. This has all led to generalizations of and knee-jerk reactions among different parts of the fandom on Twitter.

** The presence of a VocalMinority that goes out of their way to paint [=BigHit=] as a company that "mistreats" the members (see also MisaimedFandom), not helped by parts of Twitter (often multis or fan artists, aka. people who in an attempt to stay out of drama end up missing out on bigger fandom conversations) making blanket anti-capitalist statements about the company ("all big companies treat their artists like X, therefore [=BigHit=] must too", or using superficial notions of "capitalism" as an argument to demand lower prices for merch, or quickly jumping into the idea that [=BigHit=] is becoming a monopoly when they still don't have as much influence as companies like SM or YG), has made other parts of the fandom extremely wary of criticism of the company even if they come for a more genuine critical position. This has all led to generalizations of different parts of the fandom as either "company stans" or "kpop communists".

** The [[Music/TaylorSwift Swiftie]] and the Army are extremely friendly toward eacb other since BTS are unabashedly huge fans of Taylor. For her part, Taylor is one of the few Western artist who consistently interact with them and respect theit artistry.

** A lot of BTS fans like or at least respect Music/{{BROCKHAMPTON}}, helped by both groups making {{Shout Out}}s to each other (and BROCKHAMPTON's creative assistant being a Jimin fan).

** There's a VocalMinority of "fans" who twist or selectively pick moments where a specific member[[note]]different factions focus on one member in particular, but there's one for every membe[[/note]] has expressed slight disagreements or has been "disrespected" or "mistreated" by the company or other members (which are either incidents that can be argued as minor mishaps - as it's natural in a company -, decisions the members made themselves, or problems that are not problems anymore since they have been fixed over the years, such as line distribution), and pressure other fans into agreeing that said member is being mistreated by accusing them of "not caring enough" about said member if they don't; the more extreme ones[[note]](often fans of only a single member and/or fans of other kpop groups, who therefore - being remnants of kpop fan-like mentality - project other groups' issues onto BTS)[[/note]] insist that their preferred member isn't being allowed to release solo work and that they should go solo and leave the company; all of this while ignoring the members' actual (recent) statements about those subjects and about how much they enjoy working under the company and with each other - and how some members have only recently started to work more seriously in solo projects and have expressed not feeling confident enough about their work to release a full project soon.

*** This vocal minority also has the tendency to claim the fandom doesn't care about a specific member (note: this kind of minority exists '''for every single member'''), guilt-tripping and demotivating fans in the process, and to target big Twitter accounts that actually contribute to the fandom and fandom projects (translators, accounts that promote voting or organizing, etc.), make "expose" threads with selective, out of context information, and harass them and the people who follow them. It doesn't help that the projects they tend to guilt trip the fandom into participating in are often things that create unnecessary competition between different members and, all things considered, don't matter in the long run[[note]](such as competitively streaming on Soundcloud, despite members releasing songs on there only to for fans to ''enjoy'' for free, with Soundcloud being different to other streaming platforms; or brand reputation rankings, which aside from redundant have dubious methodology, being run by one guy and not a serious organization)[[/note]], making it all wasted energy.

** Music/TaylorSwift's and Music/{{BTS}}'s fandom are extremely friendly toeard eacb other since BTS is a huge fans of Taylor. For her part, Taylor is one of the few Western artist who consistently interact and respect theit artistry.

** All the jokes abou JinHit Entertainment are even better now that all the BTS members, including Jin, have become partial owners of BigHit.

** It has also come to fans' attention that BTS' "core genre" is classified by Nielsen as "world music", despite "pop/hiphop" being far more descriptive of their work ([[https://t.co/MZqzUA9Ep3?amp=1 and "world music" being a controversial category]]). According to [[https://twitter.com/bybrianbyrne/status/1283763420475592704?s=21 "on background" information]], this would be solely because BTS makes the majority of their music in Korean, similar to all music in Spanish being put on the "Latin" category (which has often be the subject of similar discussions).

** It has also come to fans' attention that BTS' "core genre" is classified by Nielsen as "world music", despite "pop/hiphop" being far more descriptive of their work (and "world music" being a controversial category). According to [[https://twitter.com/bybrianbyrne/status/1283763420475592704?s=21 "on background" information]], this would be solely because BTS makes the majority of their music in Korean, similar to all music in Spanish being put on the "Latin" category (which has often be the subject of similar discussions).