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  • Archive Binge: They have a lot of content. Even after you listen to their entire official discography, you can go listen to the mixtapes and a lot of Soundcloud-only songs. And even then, there's hours and hours of additional content, like variety and reality shows, interviews, videos from BANGTANTV and their social media accounts, and an entire music video canon. It's like a rabbit hole. Enter at your own risk.
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  • Award Snub: Didn't receive a single nomination for the 2018 MTV VMAs (not even Best Choreography); this was after the period that gave us "DNA", "Mic Drop (remix)" and "Fake Love". To rub salt into the wound, another (American) boyband's performance was introduced in the award show as "America's favorite boyband" despite never even charting in the US, while those three songs did.
    • The nominations for the VMAs the very next year became an even bigger point of controversy when BTS did get 4 nominations, but none of them for the main categories, with 2 of them being for non-votable categories (Choreography and Art Direction), 1 for Best Collaboration (with Halsey)... and 1 for an entirely new category, Best K-pop. Fans immediately decried the nominations, as it came off as MTV relegating BTS and other Korean idol groups to a separate space (ignoring BTS' performance in the US charts during the last year and even the records broken by the "Boy With Luv" music video) while only acknowledging BTS in relation to their work with a Western artist (and in the case of the other nominated groups, not even that last part).
    • An increasing number of conversations have popped up regarding how, even if they do manage to grab important nominations, BTS keeps getting kept out of main categories in a manner disproportional to BTS' artistry, cultural impact and record-breaking success. Most egregiously, while there was indeed celebration for their first music-related Grammy nominationnote  for their English single "Dynamite" (for Best Pop Duo/Group Performance), many pointed out how not only did BTS miss out on Record or Song of the Year nominations, but BTS' other submitted work, MAP OF THE SOUL: 7 (the Korean language, Carl Jung-inspired album that heavily features their lyricism, involved global art curation projects, and is overall far more representative of their work than "Dynamite"), got absolutely no nominations.
      • "Dynamite" lost to Lady Gaga and Ariana Grande's "Rain On Me". While some (or even many) did expect it, what made this downright bizarre is that, despite BTS having no nominations in the major categories ("Pop Duo/Group" was given in the pre-show), their performance was pushed to almost the very end of the Grammy award show with constant misleading "BTS is next!" announcements, with many feeling that the Recording Academy wasn't willing to giving them an actual win or major nomination, but it was willing to milk all the ratings they could get.
  • Better on DVD: With some exceptions, BTS' music is often released as concept albums, which in turn are often parts or chapters of a bigger seriesnote  that sometimes culminates in a Compilation Rerelease. Since the members write and plan their music based on their experiences and thoughts at the time, themes and ideas such as youth, love and the place of dreams in society are explored and revisited through Call-Backs and occasional Sequel Songs throughout their discography (even in their solo releases), to the point that you can find a whole Coming-of-Age Story in their work. Album singles such as "DNA", "FAKE LOVE", "IDOL" or "Boy With Luv" are therefore the songs that best represent the overall themes of each release, but are best understood in the context of their respective albums and their previous work.
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    • Played with regarding the compilation albums themselves. While they're often fan-favorites that serve as efficient series retellings with new additional songs, they often leave out songs from previous parts of the series to do so. The biggest example is likely LOVE YOURSELF: Answer, which adds the popular new songs "Euphoria", "Epiphany" and the "Trivias" for a much-praised retelling and conclusion of the LOVE YOURSELF story, but leaves out fan-favorites "Pied Pier", "134340", "Paradise" and "Love Maze", while other new additions to the albumnote , while functional to the story, were less popular as songs in their own right, leading some fans to prefer its predecessor LOVE YOURSELF: Tear instead.
  • Broken Base:
    • Around 2015, this was the case for Big Hit Entertainment and Bang PD in general, regarding whether they were a company who takes good care of BTS, or exploited them because they are profitable, and whether BTS were overworked or they worked such insane schedules because they themselves wish to please the fans. Over the years, though, this has gradually died down as BigHit kept gaining resources and improving in management, along with the fact that only more and more evidence has come from the members themselves (documentaries like Burn the Stage, interviews, personal tweets and Fancafe/Weverse posts, their attitude towards the company and Bang PD in general, RM outright asking fans to trust them regarding their schedule decisions) that they have a much less vertical relationship with Bang PD than what would typically be the case, that they do what they do out of genuine enjoyment or self-imposed goals, and that they're very comfortable in the company (and vocally so). See Misaimed Fandom though.
      • It's also well-known that Bang PD was the one who told BTS to "tell [their] own stories". As this old interview reveals, his method was very intentionally not controlling them: he simply asked them to develop and grow as artists and to display a true interest in music, giving them assignments and letting them decide the rest (schedules, lessons) by themselves. He also refuses to be called "BTS' father", preferring to be seen as a hyungnote  and crediting BTS and fans for their achievements.
      • The JTBC incident (where someone from the JTBC TV station irrupted into BH's building and took "proof" that BTS was suing their company for uneven wage distribution, only for BH and BTS to debunk the existence of any lawsuit) ended up with BigHit declaring that not only do the company and BTS acknowledge each other as equal partners as of the newest contract renewal, but that BigHit had recommended that the members and their families seek external lawyers and advisors so legal discussions would be fairer for the members.
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    • American Hustle Life: An educational experience for the boys to interact with L.A. culture? A cringey, mildly-xenophobic show where the boys constantly get put in uncomfortable situations? All of the above? A growing consensus seems to be that it was crucial for BTS's growth in their interaction with black culture and one of the keys for their later success, but it's still hard to watch for many.
      • Certain elements (like the kidnapping Candid Camera Pranknote  and Coolio's harsh treatment of the members), are still contested regarding whether they were actually funny, tasteful or necessary.
    • While there's some cross-over, our ARMY experience will vary depending on the social media platform you use the most. Twitter ARMYs (where the fandom has historically been the most organized) are the most critical of fans from other platforms, particularly Facebook and Instagram ARMYs, where the fandom is far less regulated and therefore stereotypical "toxic/obsessive fan" behavior abounds, while Twitter ARMYs are seen in some places as overly combative or records-obsessed. That said, the immense growth of the fandom on Twitter has also resulted in various different circles where discourse can differ a lot (which has lead to certain portions of Misaimed Fandom also growing while still remaining a Vocal Minority).
      • To a lesser extent, Youtube ARMYs. Youtube is one of the main platforms (if not the main platform) where people learn about BTS, the fandom and its in-jokes; it's also one of the main sources of the so-called "no jams" behavior (see Discredited Meme and Never Live It Down below), and where misinformation (from small trivia to the toxically speculative) easily abounds. Some accounts (like Jaeguchi and Lemoring) also have a tendency to upload songs with often-reposted-and-uncredited (if not outright wrong) English translations affecting views in official videos, even when it's completely unnecessarynote . These are, however, also an important entry to the fandom, especially in the case of Soundcloud-only songs like "DDAENG".
    • Similarly (and in a way that often overlaps with the above), your fandom experience might vary a lot if you frequent more multi-fandom kpop circlesnote  than purely ARMY ones - given the history between ARMY and other kpop fandoms (see Fandom Rivalry for details), staying only or even mainly in multifandom circles will almost surely make you miss out or get only an outsider perspective on complex discussions within ARMY Twitter - with ARMY-multis becoming somewhat infamous for tending to have a shallow understanding of several issues, as well as sometimes projecting issues of other fandoms, groups, and/or companies towards ARMY, BTS, and/or HYBE (or at least assuming those issues also apply on the latter).
    • BTS, Kpop, and the coverage of both in Western media. Should BTS' achievements in the US be considered wins for Kpop as whole, like many articles like to present it as (often recommending other Kpop groups in the same breath)? Should BTS' success be seen as a sign for other Kpop artists to also cross into the US mainstream? Or should BTS be seen as a phenomenon on their own?
      • On one hand, BTS' success could be seen as an opportunity for other Korean idol groups to obtain more visibility in the US market - which some of them have done, to some extent -, as well as a way to bring more diversity to the pop music industry via Asian representation; reducing the phenomenon to only one group would then be limiting access for other artists, as well as falling into exceptionalism. Not to mention that introducing Kpop in general along with BTS is pretty much unavoidable for a largely unfamiliar audience.
      • On the other hand, the atypical nature of BTS compared to most Korean idol groups, the growing divide between ARMYs and the rest of the Kpop fan community, and the vast difference between BTS's steady climb in the US charts versus what other Kpop groups have managed to achievenote  might indicate that BTS's success doesn't exactly guarantee that other Kpop groups will be able to do the same. Having BTS constantly presented by Western media as part of a "package deal" with Kpop has also been criticized for equating all groups in artistry and quality merely for being from the same country and language, instead of treating BTS as artists in their own right.
      • Media's promotion of Kpop based on BTS' success has also been questioned by some for presenting it as Asian representation while only focusing on Korean idol groups, ignoring other Korean artists, artists from other Asian countries, and Western artists with Asian roots.
    • Even more controversially, "Kpop". Being a long debated term in itself (notably originated in, again, Western media), it has come to be associated with idol groups rather than Korean pop music in general, with the Korean idol industry at large having a reputation of manufactured music and controversial practices that has unfortunately bled into the perception of BTS in the West. This is why many ARMYs prefer to distance BTS from the term, embracing claims from Korean critics that BTS are "beyond" or "more than" idols or Kpop. However, given BTS' proud self-labeling as both idols and artists, other fans have argued that there's no point in trying to separate BTS from Kpop, as they are still Korean idols who make Korean pop music - and that it would just be perpetuating the stereotypes that BTS and other artists are challenging.
      • This is made more complicated by the habit of some people (including, once again, Western media) of either only focusing on idols in their coverage of Korean music, or labeling anything from South Korea as Kpop, regardless of genre. For example, even though RM's mono. could easily be classified as "indie" or "alternative", it still appears in Apple Music under the "K-pop" category, leading to wrong assumptions from potential listeners (including, in one case, a radio DJ).
      • On the other hand, as it was already made clear in "IDOL" and their interviews in the Grammy studio and Entertainment Weekly, there's also the fact that BTS themselves don't mind the label of "Kpop artists" or labels in general. SUGA even explicitly accepts the term, though he defines it as a music/visuals/dance package rather than a music genre, while RM admitted years later that he's not really sure of what Kpop even is exactly.
      • Another point of view is that "Kpop" (used either as "Korean pop" or as "idol music") is applicable and, if maybe only to an extent, accurate to BTS, but (much like with other Korean artists) it's insufficient to really describe BTS's music, so using it persistently as BTS' only label erases BTS' unique artistry, identity, and story.
    • The presence of a Vocal Minority that goes out of their way to paint Big Hit/HYBE as a company that "mistreats" the members (see Misaimed Fandom), along with by parts of Twitter (often multis and/or fan artists, aka. people who in an attempt to stay out of drama often end up missing out on bigger fandom conversations) making blanket "anticapitalist" statements about the company note , has made other parts of the fandom extremely wary of criticism of the company even if they come for a more genuine critical position - while anyone who defends BigHit or their practices is quickly labeled by the former as a "company stan" who supposedly cares more about the company than the members. This has all led to generalizations of and knee-jerk reactions among different parts of the fandom on Twitter.
    • "Dynamite" - not as much in itself (as it's very well-liked as a song in the fandom), but for what it means for BTS as a Black Sheep Hit: their first English single, with lyrics lacking their distinctive lyricism due to not being written by the members... and their first #1 hit on Billboard and Grammy-nominated song. A great, charming song that perfectly achieves its purpose of bringing joy in a style that remains true to BTS and tributes Michael Jackson and the disco genre, a single with good sound but cheesy lyrics that marks a precedent for BTS needing to make songs in English without their trademark songwriting to truly receive attention in the US industry, or a complex mix of both?
  • Cargo Ship: A common old joke in the fandom is how SUGA has a tendency to stare lovingly at BTS' trophies whenever they win one.
  • Discredited Meme: Old jokes like "you got no jams" and "infires man" have long stopped being popular on Twitter, as they've been repeated to death in social media. The fans who still rely on them (most often seen in places like Youtube or Amino) came to be derisively referred to on Twitter as, appropriately enough, "no jam ARMYs", also sometimes used to refer to other types of less-than-ideal fan behavior. Ironically, it's become increasingly apparent that the members thoroughly enjoy some old jokes (including "you got no jams"), leading to jokes about having to accept that the members are, too, "no jams".
    • Certain ones, like calling certain members old nicknames like "god of destruction", "alien", "horse" or "mom/eomma/pink princess", are seen as Flanderizing or outright insulting in various ways when coming from fans, with members vocally expressing dislike for some of them. The fact that they've been very prevalent in fan-made "introduction to the members" videos partly explains the less-than-positive perception of Youtube ARMYs on Twitter. See also Never Live It Down below. It's worth pointing out that some smaller circles (particularly Misaimed Fandom ones) can have the tendency to overcorrect, though.
    • Adding "-eu" to the end of words, since it makes fun of their accents.
    • Jokes about Jin and RM's dancing skills, which not only have proven to be actually hurtful to them according to interviews, but are also very outdated at best; both members have been able to keep up with the rest when dancing as a group even since debut, and they have improved a lot since.
  • Ensemble Dark Horse: Songs like Cyphers 2 and 3, "Tomorrow", "Baepsae/Silver Spoon", "Whalien 52", "Butterfly", "House of Cards", "Magic Shop" and "Outro: Tear" are some side-tracks that are very popular in the fandom.
    • "Pied Piper", "134340", "Love Maze" and "Paradise" are fan-favorites that have never been performed on tour. A common sentiment on Twitter is that "Paradise" in particular needs to be performed live.note 
    • Solo tracks from all the members tend to be extremely popular, due to showcasing the members' diverse personalities, styles, and sensitivities. For example, all of the solo tracks for the LOVE YOURSELF series ("Serendipity", "Singularity", "Euphoria" and "Epiphany" for the singers, "Just Dance", "Love" and "Seesaw" for the rappers) are incredibly popular in their own ways. "Euphoria" even appeared in the "Bubbling Under 100" Billboard list after Answer was released!
    • Some fans have begged for Soundcloud-only tracks like "DDAENG", "4 o'clock", "Promise" or "Still With You" to be released on Spotify and paid platforms - or even as singles - due to their charting potential or simply to be able to listen to them on non-Soundcloud platforms (particularly "DDAENG").
      • Notably, a short clip of 3 women twerking set to SUGA's verse from "DDAENG" had more than 100 million views on Twitter before it got deleted.
      • Jimin's "Promise" managed to shatter the record for most streams on Soundcloud during the first 24 hours. This record was set by none other than Drake, who was surpassed again by V's "Scenery".
    • From MAP OF THE SOUL: PERSONA, there's "HOME", "Mikrokosmos", and "Dionysus", none of which became a single (though "Dionysus" has a choreography). "HOME" in particular stands out for its popularity in the fandom despite also never being performed on tour (though performed in an awards show and on the Tonight Show With Jimmy Fallon).
    • From MAP OF THE SOUL: 7, all of the members' solo tracks are very popular, though "Filter" and "My Time" stand out for being global chart-toppers for all of 2020. There's also "We are Bulletproof: The Eternal" and "Louder than Bombs", the latter of which joins "Paradise" as a song many fans want to see a live performance of.
    • The original tracks that are released alongside the Japanese versions of the Korean songs are incredibly beloved in the fandom, having as much international popularity as some of the Korean tracks despite getting mainly promoted in Japan.
      • The original tracks from FACE YOURSELF ("Don't Leave Me", "Let Go" and "Crystal Snow") are the best examples of this. None of them were released with a music video, and there aren't many live performances for all three of them. However, they're very popular on streaming platforms (particularly Spotify) and are still heavily praised by fans to this day for their showcasing of the group's skills, particularly the vocal line.
      • "Your Eyes Tell" from MAP OF THE SOUL: THE JOURNEY is a side track that quickly gained attention and streams when it was released, especially on Spotify.
    • All of the side tracks of BE are very popular in their own right, but special mention goes to "Dis-ease" and "Blue and Grey". The bridge of "Dis-ease" even gained its own fanbase amongst ARMYs, and "Blue and Grey" is especially notable due to selling 100K units on iTunes in the first week it of its release, and even outdid title tracks "Dynamite" and "Life Goes On" in some regions.
    • From the non-music side, Min Yoonji. The Aloof Dark-Haired Girl played by SUGA for a one-off sketch in Run BTS! is incredibly popular in fanart, and many fans want her to return.
      • Kim Army (an Adorkable BTS Fangirl as portrayed by RM for the "House of ARMY" sketch) is also popular. She's often portrayed and/or shipped with Yoonji in fanart.
      • To a lesser extent, Kim Army's mother (hamtastically played by J-Hope) also appears often on fanart.
    • The BT21 characters have reached a Cash Cow Franchise-in-the-making level of popularity, even reaching non-fans.
    • V’s pet dog Yeontan is very popular among fans and frequently trends on Twitter whenever V post a picture of him. The fact that he's a very cute Pomeranian that looks like he has eyebrows simultaneously makes him extremely adorable to fans and a great Fountain of Memes.
  • Epic Riff:
    • The instrumentals from "Blood, Sweat and Tears" are among the most recognizable ones from BTS' entire career, and perhaps from Korean pop as a whole.
    • The saxophone in "Dope"'s chorus.
    • The repeating instrumentals of "Baepsae/Silver Spoon".
    • The opening and drop of "Save Me".
    • The "BWOOONG"s from "Not Today".
    • The whistle in "DNA", the melody in "Mic Drop", and the recorder on repeat in "Go Go".
    • The synths in "FAKE LOVE".
    • The saxophone melody (again) from "IDOL".
    • The openings of "Boy With Luv" and "Mikrokosmos" are instantly recognizable.
    • The haunting acoustic guitar melody of "Black Swan".
  • Even Better Sequel: While LOVE YOURSELF: Her was a well-done album to start off the series, its sequels LOVE YOURSELF: Tear and LOVE YOURSELF: Answer are widely acclaimed masterpieces and are considered to have some of BTS's best works, especially the former. It also helps that thanks to these sequels and the progression of the LOVE YOURSELF series in general, several of the tracks in Her became Vindicated by History as they're crucial to that storyline.
  • Fandom-Enraging Misconception: Being a Korean boyband from a small company, there are layers upon layers of prejudice that fans constantly have to correct, such as:
    • Any assumptions based on Girl-Show Ghetto: that they're only popular because of their looks, that their work has no depth whatsoever, or that their fanbase is made exclusively of teenage girlsnote  and fans of boybands who jumped ship, when there are fans of all ages, genders and music tastes.
    • Saying that they're plastic puppets exploited by their company and that they have no creative input in their content. Here's a list of all the producing/songwriting credits for each of the members, for starters - and one of the factors fans cite for why they like BTS is their sincerity in both their lyrics and behavior.
    • Similarly, conflating them with the rest of the Korean idol industry and the Hallyu phenomenon, treating them as nothing more than a government strategy to promote Korean media or values, or (especially recently) dragging them into narratives about the "dark side of Kpop" (such as articles or videos having BTS as the thumbnail). Not only do they come from an atypical small company (with full case studies on Big Hit and BTS's peculiar methodology and history), having to fight tooth-and-nail to achieve their success, but their work (which is very much an outlier both in sales and in artistry) has consistently criticized Korean society and dealt with topics that are stigmatized in the country such as mental health, coming from the members' own creativity. Their success overseas was already established before they actively started promoting in the West, being a product of their work resonating with a Western audience rather than a pre-planned goal.
    • Another one is the belief that they lip-sync in live performances despite ample evidence to the contrary; even Variety magazine accused them of lip-syncing in their Saturday Night Live appearance, giving credit for doing "all the work" to back-up singer and "Boy With Luv" cowriter Melanie Fontana, who vehemently denied those claims. BTS is, in fact, one of the few Korean idol groups that always sing live even while doing complex choreography, and they have repeatedly been shown training hard to do so (Burn the Stage being a big example); Suga famously stopped rapping mid-verse while looking at the camera to show it was live in the 2017 SBS year-end show.
    • One topic that has become a very specific example is the idea that the fandom "made a petition" clamoring for the South Korean government to grant BTS exemption from South Korea's obligatory military enlistment note . This idea originated from an article on enlistment written by Tamar Herman for Billboard mid-2018, which made this claim in passing. Problem is (as explained here), the topic only arose from one Korean politician talking about exemption based on artistic contributions, doing so due to unsourced "requests"note , which media linked to an existing petition (the one cited by Herman in later tweets). This petition had (at the moment of the article's release) barely around 20 signatures, half of which only were only made to be able to leave disagreeing comments. This was after there had already been discussions in the fandom on Twitter (in and outside of Korea) noting what a controversial topic military exemption would be note .
      • In the same vein, the overwhelmingly negative reaction from fans to the article was directed at Herman's Critical Research Failure of the subject (which involved amateur translations) and misrepresentation of the fandom, and not an attempt to cover up the petition (which, again, had barely 2 digits of signatures) or (as she later claimed) accusing her of "making up" the petition.
    • Saying that the fandom thinks that any use of the color purple is plagiarism - what many in the fandom dislike is the use of the phrase "I purple you" by other fandoms to their idols, due to being specifically created by V in 2016 to refer to BTS and ARMY (so it wouldn't even make sense outside of that context).
    • Due to the influx of new fans in the LOVE YOURSELF, MOTS and especially "Dynamite" eras, Armys who refuse to listen to BTS' older music has become one - particularly those who don't look up the lyrics to BTS songs. Not only are BTS' lyrics central to what makes their identity (making "Dynamite" a Black Sheep Hit), with their songs often referencing and reexamining ideas from older songs, but there's a tendency in multifandom K-pop circles and stan Twitter circles to take lyrics and older moments out of context to incite arguments or otherwise create misinformation, with newer fans falling for it.
  • Fandom Rivalry: BTS and EXO fans do not get along, which is unfortunate because the two groups seem to actually quite good friends (or at least civil) in reality.
    • While rivalries are awfully common in Kpop, BTS' rising popularity (rivaling and even surpassing bigger established groups) and increasingly louder fanbase (in the sense of "BTS brought me here" becoming a meme due to being so widespread) gathered negative sentiments against the group and their fans among some Kpop circles since 2015 (some say even before), with some even acting out against BTS themselves, the worst incidents note  involving fans of EXO and Big Bang. The fact that there's also a growing portion of ARMYs who declare themselves fans of only BTS (and maybe some other Korean artists) and not of Kpop as a whole, partly as a consequence of the above - not to mention a new wave of fans coming from Western stan Twitter, with all that entails - hasn't sat well with some Kpop fans. It's better to leave it at that.
      • It should be noted that some sections of the BTS fandom are friendly with other Kpop fandoms, ranging from fans who are multi-fandom, to ARMYs who also like some Korean artists (who may or may not be idols), to ARMYs who are indifferent to Korean idols, to a vocal portion of ARMYs who actively listen only to BTS; whether they also view the industry or other groups or fandoms positively also varies. However, a considerable portion of fans on Twitter refuses to engage with the Kpop fan community at large and are very critical of the Korean idol industry in general, even if they like the artists themselves. That people from other fandoms and multifandom ARMYs often enter conversations within the BTS fandom and try to pressure ARMYs into taking specific sides or otherwise paint ARMYs as "the worst fandom" hasn't exactly helped.
    • Many ARMYs fight with older generation Kpop fans who claim that BTS did not pave the way for other Korean artists to become successful in the west and credit artists like BIGBANG and Wonder Girls instead. This is because, due to the way Kpop discourse goes, it often comes with the implication that every or most of BTS' international achievements must be credited to other artists - which is complicated by BTS' atypical nature within the Kpop industry and the history between the Kpop fan community and BTS/ARMY, as described above. Not even the fact that artists like PSY, Tablo, Ailee, and Sunmi (ex member of Wonder Girls) have explicitly credited BTS for opening the doors for Korean artists has stopped the debate - with some vocal Kpop fans turning against those artists instead.
    • The creation of the supergroup SuperM has not made ARMYs happy to say the least. Many have argued that this group was formed out of spite of BTS and their popularity, and believe that SM entertainment wanted to make this group to replicate their international success. The controversial strategy used by SM to get into the US charts - which, among other things, included a very high amount of bundling (digital albums sold at a lower price by bundling it with merch) to increase sale numbers - certainly hasn't helped, as BTS' almost nonexistent use of bundles during the 2 years of promotions in the US is a point of pride for ARMYs note , and many find that SM's practice set a negative precedent that could add further to the already-existing prejudice against the legitimacy of foreign (particularly Asian) artists in the US.
    • The relationship between fans of BTS and BLACKPINK on Twitter became tense in 2018 due to various factors, including Hype Backlash among newer ARMYs towards BLACKPINK (due being lauded in certain circles as the most feminist Kpop group or "the female BTS"), media practices in part of YG that were questioned by ARMYs, and Blinks reusing tutorials made by ARMY fanbases without permission. All of this quickly devolved into some people in both fandoms dissing each other's groups and some ARMYs even starting to (very vocally) criticize various rappers in female Kpop groups. The fact that a few Blink accounts - many of them male fans - accused (and keep accusing) ARMYs of being "anti-feminist" or "men-obsessed" (sometimes simultaneously) for not supporting BLACKPINK (even if they did support other girl groups) did not help matters, and it's only gotten worse since.
      • The scandals surrounding YG and some YG artists in 2019 have made some international fans of BLACKPINK and BIGBANG double down on the rivalry with BTS, with some even going as far as to spread misinformation just to put the blame on BTS and BigHit somehow.
      • A similar case occurs with LOONA. While - like with BLACKPINK - there's a good number of fans of both groups, Hype Backlash reactions from some ARMY Twitter accounts (only exacerbated by the incidents with BLACKPINK) weren't received well by a Vocal Minority among Orbits, which has retaliated through trolling and spamming (and mocking an ARMY's appearance, in one case). This (once again, mostly male) vocal minority, which resorted to insults to the members even in positive LoonARMYs tweets (such as one comparing a picture of LOONA member doing a cute pose to J-Hope doing the same), really soured interactions between both fandoms and only worsened the Hype Backlash, even after other Orbits apologized.
      • What really hasn't made things better is that some Kpop fans (but particularly fans of the above girl groups) have also started to create Twitter accounts or change their existing ones to make deliberately offensive tweets while posing as ARMYs, with the most infamous example being posting fancams under tweets about real-life tragedies (with comments such as "maybe if he stanned BTS, he wouldn't have died") and making BTS and ARMYs (many of which had been discouraging the use of fancams) receive the brunt of the ensuing backlash and become the face of the "kpop fancams" stereotype.
      • There have also been attempts to sow discord between ARMYs and fandoms friendly to them from people belonging to a rival fandom.
    • Possibly since James Corden called BTS "the biggest boyband" (as well as many comparisons of both groups made by media since), the One Direction fandom has developed this with ARMY, starting with trending a hashtag in reaction to Corden's comment to show who really remains the biggest. Several have resorted to claiming that BTS' fandom is only made of fans of One Direction who jumped ship during 1D's hiatus - even though many ARMYs never listened to boybands at all before BTS -, and it all has led to various arguments between both fandoms, with topics ranging from music quality to white privilege.
    • At the 2019 MAMAs, many non-fans were not very happy that BTS won all four major daesaengs. A lot of the outrage was directed towards the fact that Boy With Luv won Song of The Year. Non-fans felt that "Fancy" by the girl group Twice was more deserving of the award despite "Boy With Luv" having a much bigger impact on the charts locally and internationally. This same thing happened in 2018, with many kpop fans clamoring for IKON's "Love Scenario" to win Song of the Year instead of "Fake Love", which actually won.
    • NCTzens (mostly the ones that stan the subunit NCT127), the fandom of the boy group NCT, have fought with ARMYs (and MOAs) more often than not on Twitter, especially since 2020. The topics of these disputes include how (some) NCT fans constantly make viral tweets against BTS and the fandom and about how they "unstanned" (to the point of possibly taking the place of EXO-Ls in frequency), try to spread malicious rumors, have fought a music producer of a track from MAP OF THE SOUL: 7 for praising BTS, got angry and (in some cases) even wished death on ARMYs because of "ON"note  blocking a solo release of one of NCT's members from getting n. 1 in Koreanote , and about how some ARMYs have said NCT127 are "flops".
    • The success of "Dynamite" (and subsequently "Butter"), which solidly established BTS as an unarguably mainstream act in the USnote , has brought hostility from some fandoms of competing Western acts on stan Twitter (Swifties being an example).
  • Fountain of Memes: To be expected, given their presence in social media. Their peculiar personalities and use of facial expressions have made them a goldmine of memes and reaction images, as seen here.
  • Friendly Fandoms:
    • With the Beyhive on Twitter, after a strange sequence of events. After realizing that LOVE YOURSELF: Tear was very close to beating Post Malone in getting a #1 on Billboard 200, a then popular account from Black Twitter called other Beyhive accounts to stream BTS' album to "defeat" Post Malone. This led to many of them (including said popular Twitter account) finding themselves actually liking the songs in the album, with ARMYs happily welcoming and introducing them to BTS; what's more, Tear actually debuted as #1, to the delight of both fandoms.
    • The "Chicken Noodle Soup" collaboration between j-hope and Becky G and the mutual respect between both has resulted in a good relationship between ARMY and Becky G's fandom, Beasters.
    • A lot of BTS fans like or at least respect Little Mix, who are also characterized by the members' creative control over their music and have also tackled social issues in songs (with Little Mix and one of the members' personal account following BTS on Instagram).
    • From the Korean side, one of the few cases where both fandoms consistently acted friendly (or at least civil) to each other was Wanna One's until said group's disbandment, particularly after an incident in the 2017 Melon Music Awards involving members of another fandom harassing Wannables. It helps that both groups are atypical in the industry (BTS more-so in content, Wanna One in format), and consistently acted friendly towards each other in award shows, with some members occasionally hanging out together and some Wanna One members being fans of BTS. When BTS confirmed their attendance to an award show at the last minute, meaning that ARMYs would not be able to go due to all tickets being sold out, Wannables decided to do the BTS fanchants in ARMYs' place.
      • There's some degree of this on Twitter with TWICE - another group with songwriting credits in their music that has developed a hatedom in spite/because of their massive popularity - with both fandoms generally staying out of each other's way and congratulating both group's achievements, helped by TWICE's Jihyo stating that BTS "paved the way" for Kpop artists in the West.
      • A similar relationship occurs with fans of with GFRIEND, another group that has managed to gain massive popularity despite coming from a small, non-Big 3 company, and also notorious for having very difficult choreography. Helped by both groups coming from sister companies and their CEOs being friends... as well as their collaboration in the infamous "Family Song". This led to mostly positive reactions to the BigHit/Source Music company merge.
      • Along with the above, several ARMYs on Twitter are also fans of or at least respect certain girl groups with members who write their songs and/or have more unusual images and music (especially from non-Big 3 companies), such as EXID (which has an ex-underground rapper as a member) or Mamamoo (who have highly skilled vocals and show a less conservative form of femininity by Korean standards).
      • A lot of ARMYs immediately went protective-mode over both BTS' labelmate TXT and their fans, even the ones who don't like TXT's music, given that TXT's status as labelmates and rookie groups under BH unfortunately had the Fandom Rivalries BTS had transferred to them and created rivalries with other rookie groups, down to receiving hate hashtags. That said, both fandoms also have some amount of overlap.
      • The same can be said for ENHYPEN, largely due to the fact that BTS mentored the trainees on I-LAND that would eventually form the group. After they formed, many ARMYs wished ENHYPEN great success.
    • Then there’s the complicated case of GOT7, Seventeen and Monsta X. In some (multifandom) circles, the relationship between ARMYs and those fandoms is quite friendly; with friendships existing between members of BTS and members of these groups (plus a collaboration stage at the 2015 MAMAs in the case of GOT7), fans often have found one through the others and a good number of multi-fandom Kpop fans like at least more than one of them. In other places such as Twitter, however, the relationship between BTS’ and these groups' fandoms is mostly neutral; while they’re not actively hostile, conflicts do arise now and then, with the three having a history of siding with other Kpop fandoms more often than not on Twitter disputes, especially as ARMYs' general views on multifandom circles (and, in turn, the view Kpop fandoms in general have of ARMYs) have only soured over time. Carats and Monbebes in particular have become more and more hostile to ARMYs in recent years.
    • Fans of Skillet have also taken a liking to BTS, due to both bands having empowering lyrics and themes that are very similar. There's even quite a number of Skillet FMVs for BTS on YouTube.
      • Also in the rock community, several fans of Coldplay reacted positively to the cover of "Fix You" that BTS had done for their MTV unplugged segment and began to like them and respect their fandom, helped by Chris Martin himself stating that he likes and respects them. When the two groups confirmed future projects, ARMYs and Coldplayers exchanged their favorite songs and facts about both groups on Twitter, cementing it further.
    • Thanks to "Dynamite" and "Butter" paying tribute to disco-pop and rock, fans of Michael Jackson (who was already very respected amongst ARMYs in general) gained respect for BTS. This is helped by the fact that MJ's nephew, Taj Jackson has shown his appreciation for them multiple times on Twitter and other platforms.
  • Germans Love David Hasselhoff: The group was notoriously quicker in growing an international fanbase than in their home country, including countries like the US, Philippines, India, and the South American region; the wild crowd reaction to BTS in the 2014 KCON in LA is considered one of the earliest signs. In Korea, the general public and the media (aside from idol-centered shows) only started to really pay attention to BTS around 2017, particularly by the end of that year after their various US achievements and their performances at the MAMA and MMA award shows.
    • Their arrival in Chile in March 2017 led to some of the first comparisons by media to Beatlemania. According to the New York Times, the concert tickets were sold-out in record time (2 hours!) despite no publicity in TV or radio and no radioplay besides Kpop-focused Internet radio stations. Fans even got the loudest screams ever recorded on the Movistar Arena... in a moment when BTS wasn't even performing.
    • J-Hope is said to be very popular in Latin America, especially Brazil.
    • While all the members have their fans in the US, the rap line seems to be very popular with rap fans. A similar case is V with R&B fans, at least in 2018 (his solo songs "Stigma" and "Singularity" are R&B, though his other solo songs in and outside of BTS' discography have gone to other genres since, with other members also exploring the genre in solo/unit songs).
      • BTS' Hip-Hop/R&B influenced-music and respect for both genres and their culture in general (with songs like "Hip Hop Lover", "Singularity" and "ON" being stand outs) have gained them a lot of Black audiences.
      • In recent years, a lot of rock and punk fans have started liking BTS due to their lyrics being thematically similar to those of many well-known bands of that genre, and the fact that the group often experiments with their musical style.
    • "Dynamite" is very popular in Japan to the point of still being in the top ten of the nation's Hot 100 chart almost a year after its release, and helped solidify their status as a household name there. It also had a positive impact on future releases there, like their Japanese-language album BTS, THE BEST (which had Dynamite as a bonus song in the tracklist) which shattered several first-day and first-week sales records.
  • Girl-Show Ghetto: Almost par for the course for a Korean Boyband. BTS tends to be dismissed by Western media and the general public as just another group of pretty boys followed by a "mindless", "screaming" Groupie Brigade who "just like pretty faces" - despite the fact that the first thing most fans will name as a reason to love BTS is their music and lyrics (which often talk about social and political issues, some of which are even taboo in Korea), with BTS' music being much more strongly influenced by Western Hip-Hop (as well as other genres) than by Western boybands or even other Korean idol groups. Not to mention that while the visible majority of fans are female, the fandom is very diverse in genders, ages and nationalities.
    • A review of LOVE YOURSELF: Tear by The Guardian infamously had one paragraph of the whole thing dedicated to the album itself, saying that fans obviously cared more about the visuals than the music and basically implying "who cares?".
    • Several articles have been written on Western society's dismissal of BTS as something without substance based entirely on their mostly female fanbase and the members' lack of adherence to "manly" standards of beauty and conduct (such as their use of make-up), revealing Double Standards against female fanbases that in this case also intersect with racism and homophobia.
      • Western media has a role too in perpetuating this prejudice by basing their coverage of BTS on these preconceptions; notably, many US interviewers have focused almost exclusively on the size of the fandom and its presence in social media in their coverage, asking BTS questions like "what is the craziest thing your fans have done?" (which BTS deliberately turned around into praising fans instead). All of this only helps the issue of female fans constantly having to justify themselves due to the "crazy groupie" stereotype.
    • The more outspoken nature of the fanbase and its sheer size has also resulted in pre-conceptions of the fandom as an aggressive, overprotective mindless (girlish) horde. The Youtube comment section for Anthony Fantano's (mostly positive, if at times harshly worded) review of LOVE YOURSELF: Tear is an amusing example of this. A good part of the comments are along the lines of "run! The fans will burn you alive if you say anything bad about BTS!". The other part, meanwhile, are ARMYs... respectfully thanking Fantano for reviewing the album, with some of them even agreeing with his criticisms.
  • Growing the Beard: While the albums before it were far from bad - many tracks of that era like "Tomorrow", "Like" and "Rain" are beloved to this day -, it's maybe around the The Most Beautiful Moment in Life series where they really established a solid identity, expanding their predominantly Hip-Hop/R&B sound into other genres to build a diverse-yet-still-coherent pop soundnote , as well as introducing grander, darker, more mature narratives into their music and concepts, along with more ambitious storytelling though the introduction of the BTS Universe. It was also the point where BTS ditched their eyeliner-heavy "bad boy" image in favor of a more natural and flexible look and attitude.
  • Harsher in Hindsight:
    • Their debut era, which the members regard as intense, due to extreme dieting, packed schedules, and very little money when compared to their current situation. Especially after listening to "Sea" (released in 2017), which explicitly describes how much they suffered as a group from a small company and how they were told they wouldn't make it.
    • In early 2016, BTS had a few days of leisure time, and posted occasional updates on social media of what they were doing. ARM Ys joked that Suga hadn't posted anything, and wondered if he was spending the break asleep. However, after a few days, Suga tweeted this. Yeah, instead of using the break to rest, Suga went back to the Kobe concert venue in order to sort out his thoughts and come to terms with the guilt he felt from not being able to perform. Not exactly a happy vacation.
    • V confessed, at a fanmeeting, that his grandmother, who had taken care of him for many years when he was young, had passed away while he was performing overseas in Manila. The footage of those performances have comments filled with condolences.
    • Anything from 2015 to late 2016, knowing that the members did suffer from the criticisms and accusations of plagiarism and sajaegi (digital chart manipulation) they kept receiving during those years. The highly emotional HYYH ON STAGE: EPILOGUE concerts, in particular, can get soured by the knowledge that they were immediately followed by the "plagiarism boys" hashtag incident (it trended #1 on Korea during and after the concerts). Indeed, a VCR from the final concerts of the WINGS Tour confirmed that yes, the members saw all of that.
    • FACE YOURSELF (particularly "Let Go", though whether there's an actual connection is dubious as it wasn't written by the members, being a Japanese song), parts of the 2018 BTS Festa and possibly anything from early 2018 can become either this or Heartwarming in Hindsight, after the members revealed at their 2018 MAMAs Artist of the Year Award speech that they struggled a lot emotionally at the beginning of the year under the overwhelming pressure to continue giving flawless performances after their international achievements in 2017, to the point that they talked about disbanding.
    • SUGA's verse in "Spring Day" hits even harder after the release of D-2's final track "Dear my friend", where SUGA details the story of a real long-lasting friendship that ended due to imprisonment, and talks about how he still mourns it and wonders "what if" - with a verse being a Call-Back to his "Spring Day" lines.
    • "Outro: Tear" is already a heavy-hitting track about separation, but Break the Silence brings a whole new meaning to the song. Suga reveals that when the group were talking about disbandment in 2018, he had written "Outro: Tear" for the members about his feelings on the possibility, and they had all cried when he played it for them.
  • Hilarious in Hindsight:
  • Ho Yay: All of the members seem to have No Sense of Personal Space (though whether shipping is ethical even as a fun, non-speculative activity is a topic with a Broken Base). Now with their own page.
  • It's Popular, Now It Sucks!: BTS' popularity and entrance to the international mainstream starting from 2015 has led increasingly more people (mainly Kpop fans outside of the fandom) to declare that the group has become "too big" - with some even saying they liked them better as underdogs - or that other groups are equally or more deserving of their success. It quickly reached the point that whenever a popular channel/Twitter account/anything makes a video or a post about BTS, it will invariably be bombarded with comments talking about BTS being overrated and/or asking people to check other ("better") Kpop groups (even though the reasons ARMYs like BTS and the reasons kpop fans like kpop are not the same).
  • LGBT Fanbase: While LGBT+ fans are far from rare for Kpop groups, the fact that BTS often makes comforting/empowering music about social issues with an underdog narrative, the support that members have expressed for the community and LGBTQ+ fans on several occasions examples , as well as their "androgynous, fluid style", it's not surprising that a sizable portion of the fanbase is part of the LGBTQ+ community.
    • An LGBT+ flag was seen on the concert in Paris with messages written on it, with the biggest one being "Thanks for showing us reasons to love ourselves".
    • Oddly enough, Jin and especially Suga are said to be really popular among LGBT+ fans, including lesbians. As this tweet theorizes:
      yoongi and seokjin have so many lesbian fans because yoongi is to lesbians what lady gaga is to gay men while seokjin is to lesbians what jeff goldblum is to also lesbians
      • A fan famously went to a BTS concert in 2018 holding a banner with the inscription "Lesbians (heart) Jin".
    • This article also mentions Suga (again), Jungkook and especially RM as popular among lesbian/queer female fans, both due to their aforementioned support towards the community and the group's lack of adherence to heteronormative standards in their appearance and behavior.
    • Every single member seems to get this to some degree in various sides of the community - from parts of Twitter proclaiming J-Hope as a bisexual icon, to the various memes portraying Jungkook theoretically stomping on homophobes and TERFs, to people appreciating Jimin and V's particularly flexible approach to gender presentation/performance.
    • There are plenty of songs with themes LGBT+ fans relate to. If this poll (with a sample of 1759 people) is to be believed, this includes the Most Beautiful Moment in Life series, the LOVE YOURSELF series, WINGS, and Jimin and V's solo/unit songs in general - with the top 3 in the poll being Jimin's "Lie" (from WINGS) at n. 3, Jimin and V's "Friends" at 2, and V's "Stigma" (also from WINGS) at n. 1, the latter winning by a landslide.
    • They're also notable for having a strong fanbase on the asexual/aromantic spectrum, due to speaking out and writing songs about types of love that aren't romantic, and with their LOVE YOURSELF series defying the common belief that a romantic relationship takes priority over everything else. The fact that RM has stated that there are many types of love and all are equally important certainly helped.
  • Memetic Badass: Jin is a powerful chaotic deity who will do whatever he wants, unconcerned and unfettered by the forces of other members, BigHit, TV producers, or earthly beings in general. Except Jungkook's.
    • Roughly speaking, 1 in every 3 fanart pieces featuring Yoonji will portray her with a lethal weapon.
    • Jungkook can absolutely defeat anyone on anything, including physical combat.
  • Memetic Mutation: They have their own page now.
  • Minority Show Ghetto: Being a Korean group that sings and raps in Korean, BTS' break in radio in the US and other countries has been made notoriously difficult due to a combination of this trope and Girl-Show Ghetto. With BTS constantly being framed as a "social media phenomenon" and/or a pre-teen fad, radios have been reluctant to play their songs, often outright ignoring requests or demanding thousands of retweets for a single play. Collective organized efforts had to be made to even get "DNA" and "Mic Drop" in US radio, but the reluctance has persisted - even after the singles "FAKE LOVE" and "Boy With Luv" charted in the Hot100 Top 10 and every album and EP from LOVE YOURSELF: Tear onwardsnote  charted on Billboard 200 at #1.
    • A US radio made an article in 2018 citing issues that would need to be "resolved" if people wanted more BTS on US radio. The "solutions" included more US radio tours (extremely difficult to do consistently for a group from Korea)... and a 100% English release.
    • That's not even getting to the various comments people in international media have made mocking or criticizing BTS purely based on racial and/or Korean-specific stereotypes. See Fandom-Enraging Misconception above.
    • The VMAs' decision to completely ignore BTS in the 2019 nominations for main categories, instead relegating them to technical categories, the Best Collaboration category and the (newly created) Best K-pop category. While it's just one of several cases of awards shows supposedly based on popularity only considering BTS for categories related to fandom or social media, it became one of the most high-profile ones. The lack of consideration of BTS as as an artist on the same level of popularity as the Artist and Video of the Year nominees was especially apparent considering that all pictures of BTS in the voting site initially had Halsey front-and-center with 2 members out of focus in the back. All of this led to the questioning by fans of the "Best K-pop" category, as well as MTV (and the Western music industry)'s history of ignoring or segregating non-white and non-anglo artists.
    • BTS' "core genre" is, according to Nielsen, "world music", despite "pop/hiphop" being far more descriptive of their work (and "world music" being a controversial category). According to "on background" information, this would be solely because BTS makes the majority of their music in Korean, similar to all music in Spanish being put on the "Latin" category (which has often be the subject of similar discussions).
  • Misaimed Fandom: "House of Cards" and "Singularity" have gained some reputation as "sexy" songs (down to apparently appearing in a "sex songs" playlist on Spotify). Both, however, have decidedly unsexy lyrics: "House of Cards" talks about a Destructive Romance where the parts delude themselves into maintaining it even though its end is imminent, while "Singularity" talks about trying to keep a loved person happy through a Stepford Smiler façade and going through a Loss of Identity.
    • There's a ridiculously large amount of people and media pieces that treat BTS as a boyband whose music is senseless noise and entirely manufactured from an assembly line, when a simple look at their music and lyrics show they're anything but.
    • Songs like "HOME" (which is about BTS and their fans) or even "Spring Day" (about loss of a loved one, especially a friend) are sometimes wrongly referred to as romantic songs - yes, even with the line "You know it all, you're my best friend" in the latter.
    • Other songs like "My Time" (about longing for a normal life and being unable to stop time) have been misinterpreted as being directed towards a lover, in spite of the meanings of the songs having been explained.
    • There's a Vocal Minority of "fans" who twist or selectively pick moments where a specific membernote  has expressed slight disagreements or has been supposedly "disrespected" or "mistreated" by the company or other members (which are either incidents that can be argued as minor mishaps - as it's natural in a company -, decisions the members made themselves, problems that are not problems anymore since they have been fixed over the years, such as line distribution, or are simply out of contextnote ), and pressure other fans into agreeing that said member is being mistreated by accusing them of "not caring enough" about said member if they don't; the more extreme onesnote  insist that their preferred member isn't being allowed to release solo work and that they should go solo and leave the company; all of this while ignoring the members' actual (recent) statements about those subjects and about how much they enjoy working under the company and with each other - and how some members have only recently started to work more seriously in solo projects and have expressed not feeling confident enough about their work to release a full project soon.
      • Some of these people also tend to aggressively blame BigHit and BangPD for things they had no responsibility for, or for not acting on some issue only for BigHit to reveal they were working on it quietly behind the scenes for various reasons.
      • This vocal minority also has the tendency to claim the fandom doesn't care about a specific member (again, this kind of minority exists for every single member), guilt-tripping and demotivating fans in the process, and to target big Twitter accounts that actually contribute to the fandom and fandom projects (translators, accounts that promote voting or organizing, etc.), make "expose" threads with selective, out of context information, and harass them and the people who follow them. It doesn't help that the projects they tend to guilt trip the fandom into participating in are often things that create unnecessary competition between different members and, all things considered, don't matter in the long runnote , making it all wasted energy.
  • Most Wonderful Sound: Just to name a few:
    • Any time one of the vocalists opens his mouth to sing. The exclusively-vocal tracks "The Truth Untold" and "House of Cards" are notable examples of the vocal line at their finest.
    • Any time one of the rappers opens his mouth to rap. Also, they may pretend to be bad at singing, but in actuality, they've got some pretty good vocal chops. Take RM's low, soothing vocals in his mono. playlist, SUGA's vocals in "Trivia: Seesaw", and any live performance of "Spring Day" where j-hope sings the beginning verses.
    • V's impressive falsetto in "Stigma."
    • The catchy-as-all-hell saxophone riffs in "Dope" and "IDOL."
    • This may vary between fans, but the opening to any fan-favorite song counts.
  • Narm: The commercial they did for LG was okay enough... until an unexpected English dub version appeared. The less than enthusiastic voice acting ("My eyes. It's so bright.") and the fact that the English actors kinda, but not quite sound like them made the dubbed version the butt of jokes from fans.
    English!J-Hope: (animatedly gesturing so the others come over)
    English!J-Hope: (monotone) Guys.
  • Never Live It Down:
    • If you were to learn about the BTS members from most of the popular "introduction to the members" Youtube fan-made videos (at least, most of the pre-2018 ones), you'd probably get a heavily Flanderized impression of the members, due to selective editing in compilation videos repeatedly emphasizing only certain moments and jokes to fit one narrative. Some jokes have become Discredited Memes purely because of this, as you can see above.
      • RM is one of the most affected by this; you'd (almost) be forgiven for thinking his entire personality consists of being 1. smart, and 2. clumsy. The most egregious part, though? "Expensive girl", which, despite the fact that it's actually a cover note  he did back when he was 18, some fans in Youtube keep recommending to newcomers instead of much more representative work like RM or mono..
      • Likewise, other members get reduced into one-note caricatures of themselves in certain circles due to this: Suga is Flanderized as "savage" and "cold/heartless" for being quieter and snarkier (with one of the most popular videos being a compilation of members being "lowkey terrified" of him despite a lot of evidence to the contrary); Jin with Team Mom as his sole trait for being into cooking and taking care of the younger members; V as a Cloud Cuckoolander (ignoring, for example, his artistic sense), and so on.
    • In a different way, the group's and particularly RM's hair/fashion choices and attitude and less than sensitive lyrics and comments from their early years. He has acknowledged these and quite explicitly refers to them as Old Shame, making efforts to improve along with the other members (he even has his lyrics reviewed by feminist scholars now, as well as songs with Gender-Neutral Writing), but many Kpop fans surely won't let anyone forget it. You'd be surprised by the fact that he went as far as changing some lyrics for the US performances of "Fake Love" due to the Korean words for "I" and "you" sounding like the N-word, considering how much his name keeps popping up in any discussion about Kpop idols having problematic behavior (see "but namjoon" in BTS' Memetic Mutation page).
  • Nightmare Fuel: The concept images for the "S" version and the "E" version of LOVE YOURSELF: Answer are pretty unsettling. The former has the members in narrow rooms, surrounded by cameras, hands, or eyes coming from the walls, creating a claustrophobic atmosphere heavy on Paranoia Fuel. The "E" version has each one of the members inside a small bubble containing pretty flowers in what (judging by the members' poses) is clearly a Gilded Cage to a big, empty exterior; if you look closely, you'll see that the flowers in Jungkook's bubble are dead. The group picture in the "E" version shows the members inside a closet like dolls, tied to the cupboards.
    • Interpretations of the images as representations of how the members feel in their lives as idols - as well as the similarities between the "E" version in Answer and the "O" version in LOVE YOURSELF: Her- add a heavy dose of Fridge Horror.
    • Version 1 of MAP OF THE SOUL: 7 (see the BTS page image) shows the members in what looks like an old house, standing around a huge hole that leads to nothing but pure darkness. It can be unsettling in a Nothing Is Scarier sort of way.
  • Periphery Demographic: Though the group's music was (at least initially) mostly aimed at people in their teens and 20s, the fandom is very diverse, with fans of all ages and genders resonating with their lyrics - reader statistics for articles about BTS on Naver often shows a majority of readers in their 30s and 40s (which, for other idol groups, typically would be teenagers by far), not to mention the attention BTS has gotten from critics, producers and celebrities like John Cena (a very vocal fan of the group).
  • The Producer Thinks of Everything: BTS and BigHit have been able to include Foreshadowing for album concepts/themes/songs and even story elements from the BTS Universe in their music, music videos, concept images, photoshoots, interviews, concerts, award show performances and speeches, commercials, selfies, etc., sometimes years in advance; an example of their long-term thinking is their reveal that the LOVE YOURSELF series - which was officially announced in the second half of 2017 and continued through 2018 - was planned since March 2016, even before the end of the The Most Beautiful Moment in Life era. It has come to the point that fans have become suspicious of anything that could be a clue to the point of paranoia.
  • Rescued from the Scrappy Heap: While not hated, "So What" wasn't as loved as other songs (and considered the only, or one of the only skips) from LOVE YOURSELF: Tear upon release, due to being perceived by many as a too-long So Okay, It's Average song set near the end of an album full of riskier, more experimental tracks, coming right before fan-favorite "Outro: Tear". The song has become much more beloved since it was performed on stage in the LOVE YOURSELF Tour, being one of the songs where the members just go goofing around and having fun on stage and bringing some of the most memorable moments of the tour. The fact that other EDM or electro-dance songs (particularly from LOVE YOURSELF: Her) have become Vindicated by History has also likely helped.
  • Ship-to-Ship Combat: There are sectors of the shipping community within the fandom that are notoriously toxic and are generally looked down upon by the rest of ARMY (by contrast, most of the shipping community don't actually take ships seriously, for starters). Many people who like the music but don't give a damn about the entire Yaoi Fangirl perception of the relationships between the members have been attacked on social media by a Vocal Minority (with significant overlap with the similarly small-but-vocal solo stan sectors described under Misaimed Fandom above) who accuse them of being "homophobic" for not supporting their specific ship, even though this is usually not the case and some are even part of the LGBT community. And of course, the less said about the infighting between various of those shipping groups, the better.
  • Shocking Moments:
    • Incredibly high in BTS' music videos, either due to story (from the BTS Universe), the increasing rate of Visual Effects of Awesome, or both. Particular videos where this can happen are "I NEED U (Original version)", "Dope", the WINGS teasers, "Blood, Sweat and Tears", "Not Today", "Mic Drop (Steve Aoki remix)" and "Fake Love".
    • BTS' live performances at Korean award shows and year-end shows are also full of this. Some examples:
      • 2016 Mnet Asian Music Awards (MAMAs): Jungkook hovering mid-air, Jimin dancing blindfolded in synchro with J-Hope to "Intro: Boy Meets Evil", and V's wing scars.
      • 2017 MAMAs: The Visual Effects of Awesome intro, followed by a non-stop, highly demanding 15-minute performance (including an extended version of "Mic Drop" at the very end).
      • The transition from "DNA" to "Not Today" (with great use of camera angles) in the 2017 year-end SBS show.
      • 2017 KBS year-end show: The 20-minute "ALL. LIVE. BAND." performance. Including a short choreography nostalgia-trip, performances of side-tracks from WINGS, and most notably, a rock version of "DNA", and a grand finale with "Not Today".
      • 2018 Melon Music Awards: The members replicating the "E" version concept picture from LOVE YOURSELF: Answer with a seamless transition to "Fake Love", plus the jaw-dropping dance performance by J-Hope, Jimin and Jungkook performance of traditional Korean dances followed by a version of "IDOL" with traditional Korean instruments.
  • Tear Jerker: See here.
  • They Changed It, Now It Sucks!: BTS' experimentation with their sound, which has changed from mostly Hip-Hop and R&B to also include other genres such as moombathon, EDM and Latin pop, has inevitably gathered this kind of reactions in some circles, especially regarding the LOVE YOURSELF series. That said, there's a particularly strange kind of criticism directed at the aforementioned series, which is that BTS now is "too Western" or "not Kpop enough" note .
  • True Art Is Angsty:
    • Some people (mostly fans of Kpop in general) still clamor to this day for a return to the darker sound and Hotter and Sexier (while symbolism-heavy) aesthetics of WINGS while criticizing the softer aesthetics of their later work. In particular, even though The Most Beautiful Moment in Life and WINGS are considered complex, well-made albums in their own merits, they are often propped up by non-ARMYs as their absolute best work because of this trope, being sonically gloomier and explicitly tackling topics like depression and toxic relationships (even though these topics come up in albums before and after).
    • The EDM/electrodance/funk-heavy LOVE YOURSELF: Her was criticized and dismissed by some for being Lighter and Softer than its predecessors above. This is partially a case of Misaimed Fandom, with some people (mainly non-ARMYs) even ignoring the actual lyrics and themes of the series (including the Cerebus Syndrome that occurs both in the series as a whole and within Her itself) and going as far as criticizing "Go Go" for only being about "partying". That said, even the fandom itself wasn't as keen initially on the album as with the next albums in the series, and the title song "DNA" remained somewhat divisive for fans for a while, especially as it was then that BTS made their US television/radio debut. Both the EP and its single have been Vindicated by History since.
    • The relatively mixed critical reception of MAP OF THE SOUL: PERSONA is often attributed to the album's sound being too safe sonically or too self-referential lyrically, but it has also raised some questions about how music with Darker and Edgier (and therefore more "real") themes is automatically assumed to be deeper and superior than Lighter and Softer works, even though the latter can still deal with complex, socially relevant topics.
    • Zigzagged with MAP OF THE SOUL: 7, which got critical acclaim while being more of a Cerebus Rollercoaster that also includes songs from PERSONA than something fully Darker and Edgier. It has darker tracks like "Interlude: Shadow" and "Black Swan", but it has a generally very light pop sound; at the same time, however, every single track (even the lighter tracks such as "Friends" or "Outro: Ego") is deeply personal and autobiographical in some way, with each one of the members telling the stories they wanted to tell as well as reflecting on stuff like what respect means or anger in social media.
  • Visual Effects of Awesome: Aside from their music and choreography, BTS are notorious for their music videos, which have often and increasingly (as their budget becomes higher and higher) fallen into this.
    • The videos featured in the BTS Universe have particularly become very visually impressive throughout the years. See the BU YMMV page for examples.
    • "Dope" features an Epic Tracking Shot (disguised as The Oner) that quickly and almost seamlessly transitions between different shots of the fast-paced choreography, with various costume-changes in between. Some people have been surprised to learn that RM was filmed using a green-screen for his verse.
    • "Spring Day" is a gorgeous video, using slow motion, low shutter speed, sets, Scenery Porn and saturated colors for a poetic, emotional effect.
    • "Not Today" has a much more epic feel, with an Epic Tracking Shot at the beginning, wide-shots showing off the larger-scale choreography and the Scenery Porn, a set in the featuring a huge triangular block of ice (or mirror), and, again, slow motion.
    • "Mic Drop (Steve Aoki Remix)" makes full use of the choreography with a dynamic use of wide-shots, close-ups, and camera movement while adding just the right effects, featuring powerful visuals such as an enormous holographic version of Steve Aoki looming over the group dancing, or a dark room exploding in slow motion (backup dancers Jimin and Jungkook included) right behind Suga during his verse. The biggest example, however, is the shot where an explosion goes off in the background... in sync with the music and choreography. And it's not CGI; they really filmed it that way!
    • "ON" (the Official Music Video version) is co-produced by FREENJOY (the team behind music videos such as Kendrick Lamar's "Humble", Beyoncé's "Formation" and Ariana Grande's "No Tears Left To Cry"), and it shows. It features the members in a post-apocalyptic medieval setting, complete with scenes reminiscent of The Lord of The Rings and Game of Thrones with added biblical reference, including a war aftermath, cults, an ark, instances of Scenery Porn, lava falling from volcanoes, etc.

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