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* LikeYouWouldReallyDoIt: Johnny Storm being killed by the pyramoid in issue 3. Make even less believable considering he is currently the co-protagonist of Marvel Two-In-One, something the writer of said series pointed out almost immediately.

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* LikeYouWouldReallyDoIt: Johnny Storm being killed by the pyramoid in issue 3. Make even less believable considering he is currently the co-protagonist of Marvel Two-In-One, ''ComicBook/MarvelTwoInOne'', something the writer of said series pointed out almost immediately.


* {{Narm}}: The Avengers acting as if Johnny and Red Wolf are totally dead and gone forever for reals. Even while they don't have the audience's advantage of knowing they're still alive, it still comes across as ridiculously wangsty. Even more so when the Immortal Hulk shows up, with a whole montage demonstrating the sheer imperminance of death in comic books.

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* {{Narm}}: The Avengers acting as if Johnny and Red Wolf are totally dead and gone forever for reals. Even while they don't have the audience's advantage of knowing they're still alive, it still comes across as ridiculously wangsty. Even more so when the Immortal Hulk shows up, with a whole montage demonstrating the sheer imperminance impermanence of death in comic books.

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* {{Narm}}: The Avengers acting as if Johnny and Red Wolf are totally dead and gone forever for reals. Even while they don't have the audience's advantage of knowing they're still alive, it still comes across as ridiculously wangsty. Even more so when the Immortal Hulk shows up, with a whole montage demonstrating the sheer imperminance of death in comic books.


* CounterpartComparison:
** [[AlliterativeName Valerie Vector]] aka Voyager, a new character being retconned into [[spoiler: being a founding member of the Avengers]]. Many have compared her to the [[ComicBook/TheSentry Sentry]], and to DC's Triumph. [[spoiler: Both contemporary heroes retconned into their respective universe's early history]].
** Many have also taken into comparing her with [[VideoGame/KingdomHearts358DaysOver2 Xion]], specifically, her stint of [[spoiler: being erased from history and memory alike]].


** [[RememberTheNewGuy Voyager]] being exposed as [[spoiler: a fraud who gave the other characters FalseMemories after Jarvis, whose memories went unaltered, awoke from his coma.]] Essentially, she's a ''subversion'' of [[spoiler: Mark Waid's previous character Triumph and his backstory and (attempted) integration into the DC mythos.]]


* ArcFatigue: Many have expressed frustration at No Surrender's length. The storyline is sixteen issues long, with many noting that back in the Bronze Age storyline's with a similar plot (cosmic entities manipulating the Avengers to fight other teams) would last from two to six issues and most crossover events don't last more than ten (JLA/Avengers lasted only four issues). While the event contains a lot of cool moments, many have complained about exposition and other forms of padding that make the event last way longer than it needed. Also, while the series is released weekly, the price tag for each issue stayed at $3.99, That means that if you want to follow the event instead of waiting for the trade, you would have to pay almost 66 bucks (two issues were $4.99)!

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* ArcFatigue: Many have expressed frustration at No Surrender's length. The storyline is sixteen issues long, with many noting that back in the Bronze Age storyline's storylines with a similar plot (cosmic entities manipulating the Avengers to fight other each other/other teams) would last from two to six issues and most crossover events don't last more than ten (JLA/Avengers (JLA/Avengers, for example, lasted only four issues). While the event contains a lot of cool moments, many have complained about exposition and other forms of padding that make the event last way longer than it needed. Also, while the series is released weekly, the price tag for each issue stayed at $3.99, That means that if you want to follow the event instead of waiting for the trade, you would have to pay almost 66 bucks (two issues were $4.99)!


* CrowningMomentOfAwesome:
** When Voyager sends out a call to all the other Avengers to come stop The Challenge from destroying Earth Scarlet Witch assists her by using a spell to amplify the signal..... and the last words that were used? AvengersAssemble!
** Lightning’s game of poker with Grandmaster. In order to win back Johnny Storm, Red Wolf and the entire planet, while already putting himself and ownership of the planet up for grabs, Lightning bets the one thing that Grandmaster is unwilling to lose, [[spoiler: the memory of his deeds and accomplishments. The best part? Lightning later admits he has no idea how to play poker.]]
* CrowningMomentOfFunny:
** In issue 3, as Pietro's throwing a strop:
-->'''Quicksilver:''' You're leaving me behind? To do what? Make coffee at the speed of sound?
-->'''Dr. Toni Ho:''' ''(leans in from off-panel, waving a mug)'' [[TheGadfly Actually...]]
** Squirrel Girl trying to get Falcon and Synapse to get into The Challenger's head... so she can try and rehabilitate him. They instead go for trying to kick his ass, causing Doreen to mutter to herself.
** Nadia shows off her brand new AI, J.A.R.V.I.S., to the real Jarvis and he assumes that maybe it's time to retire... until it starts screwing up and he declares he's ''not'' leaving at all.
* CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming:
** When Wanda revives Vision in issue 3, there's a brief moment as they smile and hold one another's hands.
** Jarvis comforting Bruce after his rampage as the Hulk ends. He even suggests that being an Avenger is essentially avenging one's own failures.
** The final page in the final part, replacing the old statue of the founders with a statue with Cap and the Avengers who participated in the story.

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** Lightning’s game of poker with Grandmaster. In order to win back Johnny Storm, Red Wolf and the entire planet, while already putting himself and ownership of the planet up for grabs, Lightning bets the one thing that Grandmaster is unwilling to lose, [[spoiler: the memory of his deeds and accomplishments. The best part? Lightning later admits he has no idea how to play poker.]]


* ArcFatigue: Many have expressed frustration at No Surrender's length. The storyline is sixteen issues long, with many noting that back in the Bronze Age storyline's with a similar plot (cosmic entities manipulating the Avengers to fight other teams) would last from two to six issues and most crossover events don't last more than ten (JLA/Avengers lasted only four issues). While the event contains a lot of cool moments, many have complained about exposition and other forms of padding that make the event last way longer than it needed. Also, while the series is released monthly, the price tag for each issue stayed at 3.99, That means that if you want to follow the event instead of waiting for the trade, you would have to pay almost 64 bucks!

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* ArcFatigue: Many have expressed frustration at No Surrender's length. The storyline is sixteen issues long, with many noting that back in the Bronze Age storyline's with a similar plot (cosmic entities manipulating the Avengers to fight other teams) would last from two to six issues and most crossover events don't last more than ten (JLA/Avengers lasted only four issues). While the event contains a lot of cool moments, many have complained about exposition and other forms of padding that make the event last way longer than it needed. Also, while the series is released monthly, weekly, the price tag for each issue stayed at 3.$3.99, That means that if you want to follow the event instead of waiting for the trade, you would have to pay almost 64 bucks!66 bucks (two issues were $4.99)!

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* CrowningMomentOfAwesome:
** When Voyager sends out a call to all the other Avengers to come stop The Challenge from destroying Earth Scarlet Witch assists her by using a spell to amplify the signal..... and the last words that were used? AvengersAssemble!

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** Nadia shows off her brand new AI, J.A.R.V.I.S., to the real Jarvis and he assumes that maybe it's time to retire... until it starts screwing up and he declares he's ''not'' leaving at all.


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** The final page in the final part, replacing the old statue of the founders with a statue with Cap and the Avengers who participated in the story.


* ArcFatigue: Many have expressed frustration at No Surrender's length. The storyline is sixteen issues long, with many noting that back in the Bronze Age storyline's with a similar plot (cosmic entities manipulating the Avengers to fight other teams) would last from two to six issues and most crossover events don't last more than ten. While the event contains a lot of cool moments, many have complained about out exposition and other forms of padding that make the event last way longer than it needed. Also, while the series is released monthly, the price tag for each issue stayed at 3.99, That means that if you want to follow the event instead of waiting for the trade, you would have to pay almost 64 bucks!

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* ArcFatigue: Many have expressed frustration at No Surrender's length. The storyline is sixteen issues long, with many noting that back in the Bronze Age storyline's with a similar plot (cosmic entities manipulating the Avengers to fight other teams) would last from two to six issues and most crossover events don't last more than ten. ten (JLA/Avengers lasted only four issues). While the event contains a lot of cool moments, many have complained about out exposition and other forms of padding that make the event last way longer than it needed. Also, while the series is released monthly, the price tag for each issue stayed at 3.99, That means that if you want to follow the event instead of waiting for the trade, you would have to pay almost 64 bucks!


* CrowningMomentOfFunny: In issue 3, as Pietro's throwing a strop:

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In issue 3, as Pietro's throwing a strop:


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** Squirrel Girl trying to get Falcon and Synapse to get into The Challenger's head... so she can try and rehabilitate him. They instead go for trying to kick his ass, causing Doreen to mutter to herself.


* ArcFatigue: Many have expressed frustration at No Surrender's length. The storyline is sixteen issues long, with many noting that back in the Bronze Age storyline's with a similar plot (cosmic entities manipulating the Avengers to fight other teams) would last from two to six issues and most crossover events don't last this long. While the event contains a lot of cool moments, many have complained about out exposition and other forms of padding that make the event last way longer than it needed. Also, while the series is released monthly, the price tag for each issue stayed at 3.99, That means that if you want to follow the event instead of waiting for the trade, you would have to pay almost 64 bucks!

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* ArcFatigue: Many have expressed frustration at No Surrender's length. The storyline is sixteen issues long, with many noting that back in the Bronze Age storyline's with a similar plot (cosmic entities manipulating the Avengers to fight other teams) would last from two to six issues and most crossover events don't last this long.more than ten. While the event contains a lot of cool moments, many have complained about out exposition and other forms of padding that make the event last way longer than it needed. Also, while the series is released monthly, the price tag for each issue stayed at 3.99, That means that if you want to follow the event instead of waiting for the trade, you would have to pay almost 64 bucks!

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