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* HypeBacklash: For all the hype surrounding ''Last Young Renegade'' as a concept album that "explores the different versions" of Alex Gaskarth from over the years, released on a major label, and is the follow up to two good albums from them, you'd expect the music to be better, the singles to be released in an order than actually makes sense, the fandom, as a whole, to be more open to it, the album to sell better in its opening week compared to its immediate predecessor, and for it to stay in the Billboard 200 for more than a week before ''falling off the very next week from it.'' I'm sorry to say, but ''Last Young Renegade'' has fallen victim to this trope for many.


** Their first single from Fueled By Ramen, 'Dirty Laundry,' is already causing this, with complaints ranging from, "It's too Pop," to "The song isn't good enough to warrant being a single from a new album," to "Fueled By Ramen is forcing All Time Low to be more overtly Pop," to "It's great."

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** Their first single from Fueled By Ramen, Creator/FueledByRamen, 'Dirty Laundry,' is already causing this, with complaints ranging from, "It's too Pop," to "The song isn't good enough to warrant being a single from a new album," to "Fueled By Ramen is forcing All Time Low to be more overtly Pop," to "It's great."

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** Also, several other songs on ''Last Young Renegade'' fall victim into this, due to being more serious and trying to be more dark than most things they've written about before. It mainly has to do with the titles being either metaphoric in nature, or sounding extremely childish. Combine that with a blander writing style than before and you can't take any of the songs seriously that are like this.

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* {{Narm}}: 'Dirty Laundry's' chorus features Alex singing the title of the song at the top of his lungs, which is hard to take seriously because of the fact that the words are "dirty laundry" in a serious song, metaphor or not.


* ContestedSequel: While, at first, they either matched their previous releases or did better than the last album, starting with their fourth album, ''Dirty Work'', they've had a pretty hit-or-miss track record. While it's hard to call ''Dirty Work'' a terrible album, it was definitely a let down at the least, stemming from behind the scenes stuff and the choice of direction the band wanted to go into, so it's hard to call it a good album either. Then they released ''Don't Panic'', which is hailed by many fans as their best album to date, as it rerailed their direction and sound after Dirty Work sort of derailed it. Then their next album, ''Future Hearts'' was either a good album with a few duds, a bad album, or a serviceable album. Then ''Last Young Renegade'' came out and many fans have declared it their worst album to date for them for some reason repeating every mistake from ''Dirty Work's'' production and made several more in the process. All three of the albums are the result of the band trying to mix a more Pop sound into their Pop Punk/Emo Pop sound, just to different results, so it seems that All Time Low don't belong in the Pop world from how those albums have turned out.

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* ContestedSequel: While, at first, they either matched their previous releases or did better than the last album, starting with their fourth album, ''Dirty Work'', they've had a pretty hit-or-miss track record. While it's hard to call ''Dirty Work'' a terrible album, it was definitely a let down at the least, stemming from behind the scenes stuff and the choice of direction the band wanted to go into, so it's hard to call it a good album either. Then they released ''Don't Panic'', which is hailed by many fans as their best album to date, as it rerailed their direction and sound after Dirty Work ''Dirty Work'' sort of derailed it. Then their next album, ''Future Hearts'' Hearts'', was either a good album with a few duds, a bad album, or a serviceable album. Then ''Last Young Renegade'' came out and many fans have declared it their worst album to date for them for some reason repeating every mistake from ''Dirty Work's'' production and made several more in the process. All three of the albums are the result of the band trying to mix a more Pop sound into their Pop Punk/Emo Pop sound, just to different results, so it seems that All Time Low don't belong in the Pop world from how those albums have turned out.

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*** Even reviews by nonfans, like Spectrum Pulse, showed that even ''they'' didn't think the writing was better than their past releases.

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** Also, between their various fans. The majority of the fandom seems to like their first, second, third, fifth, and sixth albums, with only the fangirls being more accepting of the fourth and seventh, as well as their business decisions, which resulted in the latter 2 albums. There are fans that praise them as misunderstood, or underappreciated, masterpieces, while others feel the shifts in their sound, while ambitious, aren't really them and that the moves aren't/weren't natural for them, or in-keeping with their usual spirit or their usual sound, leaving them feeling burned, or else turned off, by the albums' songs. Some fangirls will even bring up the baseless argument that you're "not a true fan" if you don't like the albums...even though All Time Low's been a Rock band for the last decade and the stylistic shifts aren't of the Rock genre, even at their most previously Pop. Whether you like the songs, or are indifferent to them, the shifts in sound are radical enough that you can understand why the fans that like their other material more wouldn't like them.


* VindicatedByHistory: For those who hated ''Dirty Work'' and/or ''Future Hearts,'' a lot of them find ''Last Young Renegade'' is somehow ''worse'' than either of them. Reasons being that ''Dirty Work'' actually ''tried'' to stick with the sound they were already known for, while also moving forward, the lyric writing and production are better on it, and/or it feels like the band are going through an identity crisis, or that they're just cashing in on their past success on ''LYR'' like other bands like Fall Out Boy, Maroon 5, and Weezer (at points for Weezer, though), rather than maintain it.

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* VindicatedByHistory: For those who hated ''Dirty Work'' and/or ''Future Hearts,'' a lot of them find ''Last Young Renegade'' is somehow ''worse'' than either of them. Reasons being that ''Dirty Work'' actually ''tried'' to stick with the sound they were already known for, while also moving forward, the lyric writing and production are better on it, and/or it feels like the band are going through an identity crisis, or that they're just cashing in on their past success on ''LYR'' like other bands bands, like Fall Out Boy, Maroon 5, and Weezer (at points for Weezer, though), have been feeling like they're doing, rather than maintain maintaining it.


** ''Last Young Renegade'' as an album is either a brilliant departure into Pop for the band, a maturation of their writing, and a better attempt at what they were trying to do with ''Dirty Work'' and ''Future Hearts'' to go more overtly Pop, or a weak collection of Pop songs that are, mostly, very poorly written, or badly produced, that seems more like the band [[LaserGuidedAmnesia forgot everything they learned the first time they went to a major label, had a ton of producers and cowriters, and tried to gain a more Pop edge to their sound]]. Needless to say, it's caused quite a stir in their fandom online.

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** ''Last Young Renegade'' as an album is either a brilliant departure further into Pop for the band, a maturation of their writing, and a better attempt at what they were trying to do with ''Dirty Work'' and ''Future Hearts'' to go more overtly Pop, or a weak collection of Pop songs that are, mostly, very poorly written, or badly produced, that seems more like the band [[LaserGuidedAmnesia forgot everything they learned the first time they went to a major label, had a ton of producers and cowriters, and tried to gain a more Pop edge to their sound]]. Needless to say, it's caused quite a stir in their fandom online.



* VindicatedByHistory: For those who hated ''Dirty Work'' and/or ''Future Hearts,'' a lot of them find ''Last Young Renegade'' is somehow ''worse'' than either of them. [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgement And we'll leave it at that.]] Suffice it to say, some don't agree, as the editing history of this page can tell you.

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* VindicatedByHistory: For those who hated ''Dirty Work'' and/or ''Future Hearts,'' a lot of them find ''Last Young Renegade'' is somehow ''worse'' than either of them. [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgement And we'll leave it at that.]] Suffice it Reasons being that ''Dirty Work'' actually ''tried'' to say, some don't agree, as stick with the editing history of this page can tell you.sound they were already known for, while also moving forward, the lyric writing and production are better on it, and/or it feels like the band are going through an identity crisis, or that they're just cashing in on their past success on ''LYR'' like other bands like Fall Out Boy, Maroon 5, and Weezer (at points for Weezer, though), rather than maintain it.

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* HypeBacklash: For all the hype surrounding ''Last Young Renegade'' as a concept album that "explores the different versions" of Alex Gaskarth from over the years, released on a major label, and is the follow up to two good albums from them, you'd expect the music to be better, the singles to be released in an order than actually makes sense, the fandom, as a whole, to be more open to it, the album to sell better in its opening week compared to its immediate predecessor, and for it to stay in the Billboard 200 for more than a week before ''falling off the very next week from it.'' I'm sorry to say, but ''Last Young Renegade'' has fallen victim to this trope for many.

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* ContestedSequel: While, at first, they either matched their previous releases or did better than the last album, starting with their fourth album, ''Dirty Work'', they've had a pretty hit-or-miss track record. While it's hard to call ''Dirty Work'' a terrible album, it was definitely a let down at the least, stemming from behind the scenes stuff and the choice of direction the band wanted to go into, so it's hard to call it a good album either. Then they released ''Don't Panic'', which is hailed by many fans as their best album to date, as it rerailed their direction and sound after Dirty Work sort of derailed it. Then their next album, ''Future Hearts'' was either a good album with a few duds, a bad album, or a serviceable album. Then ''Last Young Renegade'' came out and many fans have declared it their worst album to date for them for some reason repeating every mistake from ''Dirty Work's'' production and made several more in the process. All three of the albums are the result of the band trying to mix a more Pop sound into their Pop Punk/Emo Pop sound, just to different results, so it seems that All Time Low don't belong in the Pop world from how those albums have turned out.


* VindicatedByHistory: For those who hated ''Dirty Work'' and/or ''Future Hearts,'' a lot of them find ''Last Young Renegade'' is somehow ''worse'' than either of them. [[RuleOfCatiousEditingJudgement And we'll leave it at that.]] Suffice it to say, some don't agree, as the editing history of this page can tell you.

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* VindicatedByHistory: For those who hated ''Dirty Work'' and/or ''Future Hearts,'' a lot of them find ''Last Young Renegade'' is somehow ''worse'' than either of them. [[RuleOfCatiousEditingJudgement [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgement And we'll leave it at that.]] Suffice it to say, some don't agree, as the editing history of this page can tell you.

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* NewerThanTheyThink: Given the sounds of their first 6 albums, you'd be forgiven if you thought they released their music earlier than their albums came out. Having obvious influences from the likes of Blink-182, Green Day, and Fall Out Boy on those albums, it might astonish you to find out they first formed the band in 2003 when they were in high school and first got popular with their second album in 2007, a years after graduating.

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** The first single from ''LYR,'' '[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUQzOQaezJI Dirty Laundry]],' sounds like Alex ''really'' wanted to remake the Seeb remix of '[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=foE1mO2yM04 I Took a Pill in Ibiza]],' but couldn't quite capture the magic.


** An earlier example, but it's amazing how close the opening riff in '[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Y8xpMuJcG0 Let it Roll]]' comes to the opening riff in '[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmZ7CsVc_Ng Kids Just Being Kids]]' from ''WesternAnimation/TheFairlyOddParents'' of all things, as well as the whole song in the instrumental department and lyrical inspirations.



** ''Don't Panic'' was such a big success that even Last Young Renegade can't escape it's shadow.

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** ''Don't Panic'' was such a big success that even Last ''Last Young Renegade Renegade'' can't escape it's its shadow.

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