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** In a sense, ''Finn himself'', despite being the main character of the show, comes off more as a secondary character here, not taking part on the final battle, not having most of his character arcs closed and having less presence during the ending montage. It doesn't help that Muto ''did not want'' to give him closure or take part in the final battle, according to an interview with [[https://www.polygon.com/tv/2018/9/3/17806570/adventure-time-finale-finn-bubblegum-marceline-adam-muto-interview Polygon]].
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** In a sense, ''Finn himself'', despite being the main character of the show, comes off more as a secondary character here, not taking part on the final battle, not having most of his character arcs closed and having less presence during the ending montage. It doesn't help that Muto ''did not want'' to give him closure or take part in the final battle, according to an interview with [[https://www.polygon.com/tv/2018/9/3/17806570/adventure-time-finale-finn-bubblegum-marceline-adam-muto-interview Polygon]]. And unfortunately this also applies to ''Distant Lands'', as Finn's life is left open once again due to Adam Muto considering the sequel miniseries as a standalone thing and to not trample on the original show's continuity, despite taking place after the finale:
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*** And this unfortunately applies to ''Distant Lands'', as Finn's life is left open once again to not trample on the original show's continuity, despite the miniseries being treated as a sequel.
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*** And this unfortunately applies to ''Distant Lands'', as Finn's life is left open once again to not trample on the original show's continuity, despite the miniseries being treated as a sequel.
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** Many fans were especially disappointed that Finn's love life didn't get any closure, or even a single mention, during the finale. While the [[ComicBook/AdventureTimeSeason11 Season 11 comic]] addressed this, the production crew does not consider the comic part of the canon. As such, fans are hoping that ''[[WesternAnimation/AdventureTimeDistantLands Distant Lands]]'' addresses this, as many wanted either resolution for Finn and Huntress Wizard's relationship, or for Finn and Flame Princess to get back together. Unfortunately for fans, "Distant Lands" do not address Finn's love life at all, angering those who waited three years since the finale for closure.
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** Many fans were especially disappointed that Finn's love life didn't get any closure, or even a single mention, during the finale. While the [[ComicBook/AdventureTimeSeason11 Season 11 comic]] addressed this, the production crew does not consider the comic part of the canon. As such, fans are hoping that ''[[WesternAnimation/AdventureTimeDistantLands Distant Lands]]'' addresses this, as many wanted either resolution for Finn and Huntress Wizard's relationship, or for Finn and Flame Princess to get back together. Unfortunately for fans, "Distant Lands" ''Distant Lands'' do not address Finn's love life at all, angering those who waited three years since the finale for closure.
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** Many fans were especially disappointed that Finn's love life didn't get any closure, or even a single mention, during the finale. While the [[ComicBook/AdventureTimeSeason11 Season 11 comic]] addressed this, the production crew does not consider the comic part of the canon. As such, fans are hoping that ''[[WesternAnimation/AdventureTimeDistantLands Distant Lands]]'' addresses this, as many wanted either resolution for Finn and Huntress Wizard's relationship, or for Finn and Flame Princess to get back together.
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** Many fans were especially disappointed that Finn's love life didn't get any closure, or even a single mention, during the finale. While the [[ComicBook/AdventureTimeSeason11 Season 11 comic]] addressed this, the production crew does not consider the comic part of the canon. As such, fans are hoping that ''[[WesternAnimation/AdventureTimeDistantLands Distant Lands]]'' addresses this, as many wanted either resolution for Finn and Huntress Wizard's relationship, or for Finn and Flame Princess to get back together. Unfortunately for fans, "Distant Lands" do not address Finn's love life at all, angering those who waited three years since the finale for closure.
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* HillariousInHindsight or HarsherInHindsight: [[spoiler: Fern's death was compared to Spider-Man's death (as detailed below). The finale was written out before the film was released]].
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* HillariousInHindsight HilariousInHindsight or HarsherInHindsight: [[spoiler: Fern's death was compared to Spider-Man's death (as detailed below). The finale was written out before the film was released]].
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* HillariousInHindsight/HarsherInHindsight: [[spoiler: Fern's death was compared to Spider-Man's death (as detailed below). The finale was written out before the film was released]].
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* HillariousInHindsight/HarsherInHindsight: HillariousInHindsight or HarsherInHindsight: [[spoiler: Fern's death was compared to Spider-Man's death (as detailed below). The finale was written out before the film was released]].
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** Fern's death quickly became a meme after the finale aired, especially how similar it is to [[spoiler:Spider-Man's death]] in ''Film/AvengersInfinityWar''.
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** Fern's death quickly became a meme after the finale aired, especially how similar it is to [[spoiler:Spider-Man's death]] death in ''Film/AvengersInfinityWar''.''Film/AvengersInfinityWar''. Especially since he says a similar line that Spider-Man did]]
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* AntiClimaxBoss: After all the buildup throhought the series, GOLB is quickly defeated by Betty after she uses the crown to fuse herself with him.
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* AntiClimaxBoss: After all the buildup throhought throughout the series, GOLB is quickly defeated by Betty after she uses the crown to fuse herself with him.
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* CriticalDissonance/EndingAversion: The finale was highly praised by critics, but it got a mixed reception by the public and fans of the show. Even Adam Muto himself [[https://www.cnet.com/news/adventure-time-isnt-over-yet-but-at-comic-con-it-began-to-say-goodbye expected this to happen]].
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* CriticalDissonance/EndingAversion: CriticalDissonance: The finale was highly praised by critics, but it got a mixed reception by the public and fans of the show. Even Adam Muto himself [[https://www.cnet.com/news/adventure-time-isnt-over-yet-but-at-comic-con-it-began-to-say-goodbye expected this to happen]].
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* CriticalDissonance: The finale was highly praised by critics, but it got a mixed reception by the public and fans of the show. Even Adam Muto himself [[https://www.cnet.com/news/adventure-time-isnt-over-yet-but-at-comic-con-it-began-to-say-goodbye expected this to happen]].
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* CriticalDissonance: CriticalDissonance/EndingAversion: The finale was highly praised by critics, but it got a mixed reception by the public and fans of the show. Even Adam Muto himself [[https://www.cnet.com/news/adventure-time-isnt-over-yet-but-at-comic-con-it-began-to-say-goodbye expected this to happen]].
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** Many fans were especially disappointed that Finn's love life didn't get any closure, or even a single mention, during the finale. Needless to say, fans are hoping that it gets addressed in the comics, as many wanted either resolution for Finn and Huntress Wizard's relationship, or for Finn and Flame Princess to get back together.
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** Many fans were especially disappointed that Finn's love life didn't get any closure, or even a single mention, during the finale. Needless to say, While the [[ComicBook/AdventureTimeSeason11 Season 11 comic]] addressed this, the production crew does not consider the comic part of the canon. As such, fans are hoping that it gets addressed in the comics, ''[[WesternAnimation/AdventureTimeDistantLands Distant Lands]]'' addresses this, as many wanted either resolution for Finn and Huntress Wizard's relationship, or for Finn and Flame Princess to get back together.
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* BrokenBase:
** The Lich's absence from the finale. While some agree that he and his motivations were getting old, others wanted him to return in the finale with a final confrontation between him and Finn, especially with GOLB being involved with the plot.
** Finn's unresolved relationship with Huntress Wizard is either a sign that he's still too young for a serious relationship or a huge cop-out to fans after years of failed relationships who wanted to see a well deserved closure to his love life, especially with most characters in the finale having some scenes with a romantic moment. Then there were the fans who wanted to see Finn and Flame Princess get back together.
** The Lich's absence from the finale. While some agree that he and his motivations were getting old, others wanted him to return in the finale with a final confrontation between him and Finn, especially with GOLB being involved with the plot.
** Finn's unresolved relationship with Huntress Wizard is either a sign that he's still too young for a serious relationship or a huge cop-out to fans after years of failed relationships who wanted to see a well deserved closure to his love life, especially with most characters in the finale having some scenes with a romantic moment. Then there were the fans who wanted to see Finn and Flame Princess get back together.
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* BrokenBase:
** The Lich's absence from the finale. While some agree that he and his motivations were getting old, others wanted him to return in the finale with a final confrontation between him and Finn, especially with GOLB being involved with the plot.
**BrokenBase: Finn's unresolved relationship with Huntress Wizard is either a sign that he's still too young for a serious relationship or a huge cop-out to fans after years of failed relationships who wanted to see a well deserved closure to his love life, especially with most characters in the finale having some scenes with a romantic moment. Then there were the fans who wanted to see Finn and Flame Princess get back together.
** The Lich's absence from the finale. While some agree that he and his motivations were getting old, others wanted him to return in the finale with a final confrontation between him and Finn, especially with GOLB being involved with the plot.
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* HolyShitQuotient: Princess Bubblegum and Marceline kissing. ''On the lips.'' '''Onscreen and uncut.''' '''''In spite of what Olivia Olson said in 2014.'''''
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* ShockingMoments: Princess Bubblegum and Marceline kissing. ''On the lips.'' '''Onscreen and uncut.''' '''''In spite of what Olivia Olson said in 2014.'''''
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** Finn's unresolved relationship with Huntress Wizard is either a sign that he's still too young for a serious relationship or a huge cop-out to fans after years of failed relationships who wanted to see a well deserved closure to his love life, especially with most characters in the finale having some scenes with a romantic moment.
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** Finn's unresolved relationship with Huntress Wizard is either a sign that he's still too young for a serious relationship or a huge cop-out to fans after years of failed relationships who wanted to see a well deserved closure to his love life, especially with most characters in the finale having some scenes with a romantic moment. Then there were the fans who wanted to see Finn and Flame Princess get back together.
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*** Then there's those who TakeAThirdOption and either keep Finn single, put Finn, HW, and FP in a OneTrueThreesome, or pair him with a new human female character.
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* InternetBackdraft: Fans outside of the US were not happy when they found out that Cartoon Network censored the finale in certain countries. Latin America had most violent scenes removed while Russia and Bulgaria had the kiss between Marceline and Bubblegum completely removed. Koreans got it worse, with most of the kissing scenes being removed entirely.
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** [[Film/TheLastJedi Subverted expectations]] [[labelnote:Explanation]]The finale was met with a lot of backlash on 4chan's /co/ boards due to the lack of a fight between the Candy Kingdom and Gumbaldia and how Finn was relegated to a side character after the arrival of GOLB until the very end, to the point where a lot of users started parroting a well known meme within the ''Franchise/StarWars'' fandom to use it as a comparison between the finale and ''The Last Jedi'', an already divisive movie criticized for toying with the audience's expectations. Doesn't help that the finale was advertised with Finn ''as the main focus'', as shown in the promos, the official trailer and the official poster.[[/labelnote]]
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** In a sense, ''Finn himself'', despite being the main character of the show, comes off more as a secondary character here, not taking part on the final battle, not having most of his character arcs closed and having less presence during the ending montage.
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** In a sense, ''Finn himself'', despite being the main character of the show, comes off more as a secondary character here, not taking part on the final battle, not having most of his character arcs closed and having less presence during the ending montage. It doesn't help that Muto ''did not want'' to give him closure or take part in the final battle, according to an interview with [[https://www.polygon.com/tv/2018/9/3/17806570/adventure-time-finale-finn-bubblegum-marceline-adam-muto-interview Polygon]].
-->'''Adam Muto''': Beyond that, there were so many where it’s not necessarily important — where do Finn and Jake end up? What happens to them? How old do they get? Who do they marry? It’s important to focus on this section. This was Finn’s childhood and on the cusp of becoming a good adult. Hopefully he’s a learned a lot and become a more complete person. He doesn’t even have a sword through most of the finale at all. The idea of him putting down a weapon as the way to resolve a larger conflict ... this won’t help in the situation. I think that was an important thing, not trying to show that.
-->'''Adam Muto''': Beyond that, there were so many where it’s not necessarily important — where do Finn and Jake end up? What happens to them? How old do they get? Who do they marry? It’s important to focus on this section. This was Finn’s childhood and on the cusp of becoming a good adult. Hopefully he’s a learned a lot and become a more complete person. He doesn’t even have a sword through most of the finale at all. The idea of him putting down a weapon as the way to resolve a larger conflict ... this won’t help in the situation. I think that was an important thing, not trying to show that.
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* EpilepticTrees: It has been proven by the show itself that BMO is an UnreliableNarrator, as shown in "Ketchup". No one knows if most of the finale, which was told by BMO during the entire thing, was ''real'' or not.
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* BrokenBase:
** The Lich's absence from the finale. While some agree that he and his motivations were getting old, others wanted him to return in the finale with a final confrontation between him and Finn, especially with GOLB being involved with the plot.
** Finn's unresolved relationship with Huntress Wizard is either a sign that he's still too young for a serious relationship or a huge cop-out to fans after years of failed relationships who wanted to see a well deserved closure to his love life, especially with most characters in the finale having some scenes with a romantic moment.
* CriticalDissonance: The finale was highly praised by critics, but it got a mixed reception by the public and fans of the show. Even Adam Muto himself [[https://www.cnet.com/news/adventure-time-isnt-over-yet-but-at-comic-con-it-began-to-say-goodbye expected this to happen]].
-->'''Adam Muto:''' Half the people will definitely hate it, because that's every show's ending, but just having that experience instead of waiting forever.
** The Lich's absence from the finale. While some agree that he and his motivations were getting old, others wanted him to return in the finale with a final confrontation between him and Finn, especially with GOLB being involved with the plot.
** Finn's unresolved relationship with Huntress Wizard is either a sign that he's still too young for a serious relationship or a huge cop-out to fans after years of failed relationships who wanted to see a well deserved closure to his love life, especially with most characters in the finale having some scenes with a romantic moment.
* CriticalDissonance: The finale was highly praised by critics, but it got a mixed reception by the public and fans of the show. Even Adam Muto himself [[https://www.cnet.com/news/adventure-time-isnt-over-yet-but-at-comic-con-it-began-to-say-goodbye expected this to happen]].
-->'''Adam Muto:''' Half the people will definitely hate it, because that's every show's ending, but just having that experience instead of waiting forever.
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* InternetBackdraft: Fans outside of the US were not happy when they found out that Cartoon Network censored the finale in certain countries. Latin America had most violent scenes removed while Russia and Bulgaria had the kiss between Marceline and Bubblegum completely removed.
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* InternetBackdraft: Fans outside of the US were not happy when they found out that Cartoon Network censored the finale in certain countries. Latin America had most violent scenes removed while Russia and Bulgaria had the kiss between Marceline and Bubblegum completely removed. Koreans got it worse, with most of the kissing scenes being removed entirely.
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** In a sense, ''Finn himself'', despite being the main character of the show, comes off more as a secondary character here, and doesn't have any of his ongoing character arcs meaningfully concluded.
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* AntiClimaxBoss: After all the buildup throhought the series, GOLB is quickly defeated by Betty after she uses the crown to fuse herself with him.
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** There were also a few people hoping that the future people being told about the story by BMO would be Penelope, who is Finn's future incarnation from the comics.
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** Many were also disappointed that [[BigBad The Lich]] didn't have a major role and was only given a single cameo.
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* CrowningMomentOfAwesome: Bubbline becoming endgame despite CN initially not wanting it to be explicitly shown or confirmed earlier on in the show's run. [[WordOfGod Adam Muto]] credits Rebecca Sugar's ''WesternAnimation/StevenUniverse'' in helping making this possible.
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* SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome: Bubbline becoming endgame despite CN initially not wanting it to be explicitly shown or confirmed earlier on in the show's run. [[WordOfGod Adam Muto]] credits Rebecca Sugar's ''WesternAnimation/StevenUniverse'' in helping making this possible.
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*** Other writers have Finn getting back together with Flame Princess.
** Did Lemongrab and LSP decide to be in a relationship after their kiss?
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*** Other writers have Alternatively, Flinn/Smokybear shippers decided to do the same thing, but with Finn and Flame Princess instead, with both of them getting back together with Flame Princess.
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**Did Thanks to the kiss between Lemongrab and LSP decide LSP, many fanartists decided to be in post and draw of fanarts of them both living happily as a relationship after their kiss?couple.
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** Did Lemongrab and LSP decide to be in a relationship after their kiss?
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* MisaimedFandom: LSP and Lemongrab's kiss was received by some fans as a legitimately cute shipping moment instead of the joke it was almost certainly meant to be.
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* InternetBackdraft: A lot of fans are particularly angry due to the fact that Finn's love life didn't get any closure or a single mention of it during the finale after countless years of [[ShipTease teasing]] and [[ShipSinking failed relationships.]] However, some fans believe that he will end up with Huntress Wizard in the future thanks to their estabilished relationship in previous episodes. But either way, both sides are angry thanks to a lack of closure.
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* InternetBackdraft: A lot of fans are particularly angry due to the fact that Finn's love life didn't get any closure or a single mention of it during the finale after countless years of [[ShipTease teasing]] and [[ShipSinking failed relationships.]] However, some fans believe that he will end up with Huntress Wizard in the future thanks to their [[FriendsWithBenefits relationship.]] But either way, many are angry thanks to a lack of closure.
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* InternetBackdraft: A lot of fans are particularly angry due to the fact that Finn's love life didn't get any closure or a single mention of it during the finale after countless years of [[ShipTease teasing]] and [[ShipSinking failed relationships.]] However, some fans believe that he will end up with Huntress Wizard in the future thanks to their [[FriendsWithBenefits relationship.]] estabilished relationship in previous episodes. But either way, many both sides are angry thanks to a lack of closure.
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* InternetBackdraft: A lot of fans are particularly angry due to the fact that Finn's love life didn't get any closure or a single mention of it during the finale after countless years of [[ShipTease teasing]] and [[ShipSinking failed relationships.]] However, some fans believe that he will end up with Huntress Wizard in the future thanks to their [[FriendsWithBenefits relationship.]] But either way, many are angry thanks to a lack of closure.
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** Lemongrab's "Un-make me" note scene got very popular due to how easily memetic and exploitable it can be.
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: Some shippers were not happy that Finn's love life, especially his relationships with Huntress Wizard and Flame Princess, didn't get any closure or a single hint during the finale. Not only that, but none of them interact at all during the finale, especially during the ending montage.
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: Some shippers were not happy that Finn's love life, especially his relationships with Huntress Wizard and Flame Princess, didn't get any closure or a single hint during the finale. Not only that, but none of them interact at all during the finale, especially during the ending montage.
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* AuthorsSavingThrow: During an interview with [[https://www.tvguide.com/news/adventure-time-series-finale-adam-muto-interview/ TVGuide]], Adam Muto revealed that those who didn't get focus (such as FP and HW) or had little focus in the finale already got closure alongisde their respective plot points (such as Finn's relationship with HW, FP and her issues with her father, Jake and his alien lineage, Marcy and her father) in previous episodes so that the finale wouldn't be cramped.
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* AuthorsSavingThrow: During an interview with [[https://www.tvguide.com/news/adventure-time-series-finale-adam-muto-interview/ TVGuide]], Adam Muto revealed that those who didn't get focus (such as FP and HW) or had little focus in the finale already got closure alongisde along with their respective plot points (such as Finn's relationship with HW, FP and her issues with her father, Jake and his alien lineage, Marcy and her father) in previous episodes so that the finale wouldn't be cramped.
