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* HarsherInHindsight: The Sand Snakes are rightly enraged and horrified about finding out [[spoiler: about Cersei's plot to have their younger cousin Trystane killed in an ambush on the Dornish party by a group claiming to belong to Tyrion. After [[Series/GameOfThrones their TV counterpart]] killed Trystane and his father by themselves this one leaves now a bad taste in the mouth]].

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* HarsherInHindsight: The Sand Snakes are rightly enraged and horrified about finding out [[spoiler: about Cersei's plot to have their younger cousin Trystane killed in an ambush on the Dornish party by a group claiming to belong to Tyrion. After [[Series/GameOfThrones their TV counterpart]] counterparts]] killed Trystane and his father by themselves this one leaves now a bad taste in the mouth]].mouth]].
* HilariousInHindsight: Tyrion off-handedly mentions a pirate queen named [[WesternAnimation/TheLegendOfKorra Korra.]]


* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: Did Young Griff AKA [[spoiler: Aegon VI]] react so juvenile to Tyrion because he didn't like the points he brought up or in fact he knew such facts already and was releasing his own frustrations with the plan and present situation?

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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: Did Young Griff AKA [[spoiler: Aegon VI]] react so juvenile to Tyrion because he didn't like the points he brought up or in fact did he knew know such facts already and was releasing his own frustrations with the plan and present situation?



** Tyrion becomes a much darker character in this book, having crossed the DespairEventHorizon that last we saw of him. While some fans consider this great character development, others are not pleased and have started to dislike Tyrion.
** Quentyn Martell. While some readers find him interesting and his story arc as a deconstruction of a hero's journey, others find him boring and overly idealistic which many find his story arc as ShootTheShaggyDog and a complete waste.
* HarsherInHindsight: The Sand Snakes are rightly enraged and horrified about finding out [[spoiler: of Cersei's plot of having their younger cousin Trystane killed in an ambush on the Dornish party by a group claiming to belong to Tyrion. After [[Series/GameOfThrones their TV counterpart]] killed Trystane and his father by themselves this one leaves now a bad taste in the mouth]].

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** Tyrion becomes a much darker character in this book, having crossed the DespairEventHorizon that since we last we saw of him. While some fans consider this great character development, others are not pleased and have started to dislike Tyrion.
** Quentyn Martell. While some readers find him interesting and his story arc as a deconstruction of a hero's journey, others find him boring and overly idealistic which many idealistic, and thus find his story arc as ShootTheShaggyDog and a complete waste.
* HarsherInHindsight: The Sand Snakes are rightly enraged and horrified about finding out [[spoiler: of about Cersei's plot of having to have their younger cousin Trystane killed in an ambush on the Dornish party by a group claiming to belong to Tyrion. After [[Series/GameOfThrones their TV counterpart]] killed Trystane and his father by themselves this one leaves now a bad taste in the mouth]].



** Varys arguably crosses it when he [[spoiler:murders Kevan Lannister to deliberately destabilise the realm. Regardless of his supposed good intentions, he's dooming thousands more to die, even though it's supposedly for the realm's good]].

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** Varys arguably crosses it when he [[spoiler:murders Kevan Lannister to deliberately destabilise destabilize the realm. Regardless of his supposed good intentions, he's dooming thousands more to die, even though it's supposedly for the realm's good]].



** Dany herself to a lot of readers as a matter a fact. In a series where stupidity tends to be swiftly rewarded with [[TooDumbToLive predictable results]], she gets away with plenty of blunders yet keeps on surviving because she happens to have a very strong army, very competent subordinates and of course, dragons. Far more competent characters can only dream of ever having such resources at their disposal. Her very unpleasant comments on Ned Stark don't help matters, showing how out of touch she is with reality.

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** Dany herself to a lot of readers as a matter a fact. readers. In a series where stupidity tends to be swiftly rewarded with [[TooDumbToLive predictable results]], she gets away with plenty of blunders yet keeps on surviving because she happens to have a very strong army, very competent subordinates and and, of course, dragons. Far more competent characters can only dream of ever having such resources at their disposal. Her very unpleasant comments on Ned Stark don't help matters, showing how out of touch she is with reality.


** Dany's Meereenese supporting cast in ''A Dance With Dragons'' is very unpopular for a variety of reasons - difficult names, perceived blandness and the idea that the conflict in Meereen is [[TrappedByMountainLions ultimately irrelevant]]. Daario Naharis draws particular ire for his negative effect on Dany's character.


* MagnificentBastard: [[spoiler: Wyman Manderly has been plotting to destroy the Boltons and re-install the Starks as overlords of the North.]]


* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: Did Young Griff AKA [[spoiler: Aegon VI]] react so juvenile to Tyrion because he didn't like the points he brought up or in fact he knew such fact already and was releasing his own frustrations witht he plan and present situation?

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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: Did Young Griff AKA [[spoiler: Aegon VI]] react so juvenile to Tyrion because he didn't like the points he brought up or in fact he knew such fact facts already and was releasing his own frustrations witht he with the plan and present situation?

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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: Did Young Griff AKA [[spoiler: Aegon VI]] react so juvenile to Tyrion because he didn't like the points he brought up or in fact he knew such fact already and was releasing his own frustrations witht he plan and present situation?


* BadassDecay: Daenerys spends the first three books building herself into an active conqueror. However, she spends most of ''A Dance With Dragons'' comparatively inactive and out of her depth. Her army is getting whittled away by rebels, her dragons are locked away, she's forced into a sham marriage and she's distracted by lust for Daario.

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* BadassDecay: Daenerys spends the first three books building herself into an active conqueror. However, she spends most of ''A Dance With Dragons'' comparatively inactive and out of her depth. Her army is getting whittled away by rebels, her dragons are locked away, she's forced into a sham marriage and she's distracted by lust for Daario. [[spoiler: And that's before she gets dysentery]].


* BaseBreakingCharacter: Tyrion becomes a much darker character in this book, having crossed the DespairEventHorizon that last we saw of him. While some fans consider this great character development, others are not pleased and have started to dislike Tyrion.

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* BaseBreakingCharacter: BaseBreakingCharacter:
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Tyrion becomes a much darker character in this book, having crossed the DespairEventHorizon that last we saw of him. While some fans consider this great character development, others are not pleased and have started to dislike Tyrion.Tyrion.
** Quentyn Martell. While some readers find him interesting and his story arc as a deconstruction of a hero's journey, others find him boring and overly idealistic which many find his story arc as ShootTheShaggyDog and a complete waste.


* IronicEcho: From Eddard X, A Game Of Thrones:
-->Ned’s wraiths moved up beside him, with shadow swords in hand. They were seven against three.
--> “And now it begins,” said Ser Arthur Dayne, the Sword of the Morning. He unsheathed Dawn and held it with both hands. The blade was pale as milkglass, alive with light.
-->“No,” Ned said with sadness in his voice. “Now it ends.”
** From Jon XII
-->“Brother,” Borroq said. “You’d best go on. We are about to close the gate.”
-->“You do that,” Borroq said. “You close it good and tight. They’re coming, crow.” He smiled as ugly a smile as Jon had ever seen and made his way to the gate. The boar stalked after him. The falling snow covered up their tracks behind them.
-->“That’s done, then,” Rory said when they were gone.
-->''No'', thought Jon Snow, ''it has only just begun''.



* {{Squick}}: The rather graphic depiction of [[spoiler:Dany]] suffering from both dysentery and her period at the same time.
* TakeThat:
** Martin slipped in a shot at NFL head coach Bill Belichick (whom he's referred to many times as "Evil Little Bill" on his [[InsistentTerminology Not A Blog]].) In this book, a "Belicho" is mentioned in passing as a man with an unbroken string of victories before being eaten by giants. Belichick's Patriots reached the 2008 Super Bowl undefeated, before losing to the New York Giants (Martin's favorite team).
** Among a LongList of outrageously ineffective Yunkish slave soldiers, Quentyn notes a hundred who are lean, muscular, and naked but for [[Film/ThreeHundred breechclouts, cloaks, and large bronze shields]].

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* {{Squick}}: The rather graphic depiction of [[spoiler:Dany]] suffering from both dysentery and her period at the same time.
* TakeThat:
** Martin slipped in a shot at NFL head coach Bill Belichick (whom he's referred to many times as "Evil Little Bill" on his [[InsistentTerminology Not A Blog]].) In this book, a "Belicho" is mentioned in passing as a man with an unbroken string of victories before being eaten by giants. Belichick's Patriots reached the 2008 Super Bowl undefeated, before losing to the New York Giants (Martin's favorite team).
** Among a LongList of outrageously ineffective Yunkish slave soldiers, Quentyn notes a hundred who are lean, muscular, and naked but for [[Film/ThreeHundred breechclouts, cloaks, and large bronze shields]].
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* {{Squick}}: The rather graphic depiction of Dany suffering from both dysentery and her period at the same time.

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* {{Squick}}: The rather graphic depiction of Dany [[spoiler:Dany]] suffering from both dysentery and her period at the same time.


* NoYay: Ramsay Bolton's very... ''fond'' of his Reek. This only makes being Reek even more terrifying, if that's even ''possible.''

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* NoYay: Ramsay Bolton's very... ''fond'' of his Reek. This only makes being Reek Ramsay even more terrifying, if that's even ''possible.''

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* HarsherInHindsight: The Sand Snakes are rightly enraged and horrified about finding out [[spoiler: of Cersei's plot of having their younger cousin Trystane killed in an ambush on the Dornish party by a group claiming to belong to Tyrion. After [[Series/GameOfThrones their TV counterpart]] killed Trystane and his father by themselves this one leaves now a bad taste in the mouth]].


* ArcFatigue[=/=]TrappedByMountainLions: Daenerys' story arc, nicknamed the Meereenese Knot, is one of the most disliked plots in the series because it feels like she's just wasting time in Meereen when she should be taking her dragons to Westeros. By the end of the book, it still hasn't been fully resolved.

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* ArcFatigue[=/=]TrappedByMountainLions: ArcFatigue: Daenerys' story arc, nicknamed the Meereenese Knot, is one of the most disliked plots in the series because it feels like she's just wasting time in Meereen when she should be taking her dragons to Westeros. By the end of the book, it still hasn't been fully resolved.



* BaseBreaker: Tyrion becomes a much darker character in this book, having crossed the DespairEventHorizon that last we saw of him. While some fans consider this great character development, others are not pleased and have started to dislike Tyrion.

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* BaseBreaker: BaseBreakingCharacter: Tyrion becomes a much darker character in this book, having crossed the DespairEventHorizon that last we saw of him. While some fans consider this great character development, others are not pleased and have started to dislike Tyrion.



* ItWasHisSled:
** [[spoiler:Rhaegar's son Aegon is very much alive.]]
** [[spoiler:The Children of the Forest aren't extinct.]]
** [[spoiler:An attempt on Jon's life is made.]]
** [[spoiler:Theon Greyjoy is alive, but tortured and made a slave.]]


* {{Narm}}: Dany hears Quaithe talking to her in the stars, telling her "Remember who you are." This sequence is very close to events in ''Film/TheLionKing'', preventing some readers from taking it seriously.

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* {{Narm}}: Dany hears Quaithe talking to her in the stars, telling her "Remember who you are." This sequence is very close to events in ''Film/TheLionKing'', ''Disney/TheLionKing'', preventing some readers from taking it seriously.


--->"And what do you want, my sweet Reek?" Ramsay murmured, as softly as a lover. His breath smelled of mulled wine and cloves, so sweet.

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--->"And -->"And what do you want, my sweet Reek?" Ramsay murmured, as softly as a lover. His breath smelled of mulled wine and cloves, so sweet.



* TakeThat: Martin slipped in a shot at NFL head coach Bill Belichick (whom he's referred to many times as "Evil Little Bill" on his [[InsistentTerminology Not A Blog]].) In this book, a "Belicho" is mentioned in passing as a man with an unbroken string of victories before being eaten by giants. Belichick's Patriots reached the 2008 Super Bowl undefeated, before losing to the New York Giants (Martin's favorite team).



* {{Squick}}: The rather graphic depiction of Dany suffering from both dysentery and her period at the same time.

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* {{Squick}}: The rather graphic depiction of Dany suffering from both dysentery and her period at the same time.time.
* TakeThat:
** Martin slipped in a shot at NFL head coach Bill Belichick (whom he's referred to many times as "Evil Little Bill" on his [[InsistentTerminology Not A Blog]].) In this book, a "Belicho" is mentioned in passing as a man with an unbroken string of victories before being eaten by giants. Belichick's Patriots reached the 2008 Super Bowl undefeated, before losing to the New York Giants (Martin's favorite team).
** Among a LongList of outrageously ineffective Yunkish slave soldiers, Quentyn notes a hundred who are lean, muscular, and naked but for [[Film/ThreeHundred breechclouts, cloaks, and large bronze shields]].

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