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* King Spykoran. [[spoiler: In order to ensure the Bag of Tirek would never be used again, he was forced to annihilate all of Dream Valley. Let that sink in. He was [[ShootTheDog forced to kill everyone he knew and loved plus their entire families]], all to prevent the bag from ever harming anyone else again (and in at least one universe, [[ShootTheShaggyDog that didn't work]])]]. His guilt is so massive that he can't even take his hundred-year nap [[OutDamnedSpot because he's still haunted by what he did]], even though he maintains [[IDidWhatIHadToDo he did what he had to do]].

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* King Spykoran. [[spoiler: In order to ensure the Bag of Tirek would never be used again, he was forced to annihilate all of Dream Valley. Let that sink in. He was [[ShootTheDog forced to kill everyone he knew and loved plus their entire families]], all to prevent the bag from ever harming anyone else again (and in at least one universe, [[ShootTheShaggyDog that didn't work]])]]. His guilt is so massive that he can't even take his hundred-year nap [[OutDamnedSpot because he's still haunted by what he did]], did, even though he maintains [[IDidWhatIHadToDo he did what he had to do]].
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* TCB!Bon-Bon, [[DrivenToMadness whose mind was broken]] [[WidowWoman after the Queen executed Lyra]]. Nowadays she's just a babbling mess diagnosed with chronological lobular desync disorder (think of it as a stroke [[DisSimile which lets you view both the present and any point of history at the same time]], [[MadOracle with everything that implies]]).

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* TCB!Bon-Bon, [[DrivenToMadness whose mind was broken]] [[WidowWoman after the Queen executed Lyra]].Lyra. Nowadays she's just a babbling mess diagnosed with chronological lobular desync disorder (think of it as a stroke [[DisSimile which lets you view both the present and any point of history at the same time]], [[MadOracle with everything that implies]]).



* Rio/Nepenthe. [[TraumaCongaLine Oh, lordy...]] Rio. It counts as almost a mercy that [[DarkAndTroubledPast her past]] hasn't been expanded upon and most of it is barely explained, but from what little she reveals, she was [[IHaveNoSon disowned by her family]], [[WidowWoman lost her husband]], [[RapeAsBackstory got raped by someone she considered a friend]] and [[ChildByRape got pregnant]] as a result (though she did love her child), and then her son went missing. After all that, it's not too hard to imagine why she thought the Solar Empire was a perfect paradise where she could live a happy life... and then it got worse for her, when she does get ponified and [[BeCarefulWhatYouWishFor learns the hard way]] that the Solar Empire doesn't care about her as she gets {{Mind Rape}}d into becoming everything she hated.

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* Rio/Nepenthe. [[TraumaCongaLine Oh, lordy...]] Rio. It counts as almost a mercy that [[DarkAndTroubledPast her past]] hasn't been expanded upon and most of it is barely explained, but from what little she reveals, she was [[IHaveNoSon disowned by her family]], [[WidowWoman lost her husband]], husband, [[RapeAsBackstory got raped by someone she considered a friend]] and [[ChildByRape got pregnant]] as a result (though she did love her child), and then her son went missing. After all that, it's not too hard to imagine why she thought the Solar Empire was a perfect paradise where she could live a happy life... and then it got worse for her, when she does get ponified and [[BeCarefulWhatYouWishFor learns the hard way]] that the Solar Empire doesn't care about her as she gets {{Mind Rape}}d into becoming everything she hated.
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* Viktor Kraber certainly qualifies, despite being a highly [[AxCrazy trigger-happy]] BloodKnight... or possibly ''because'' he is when you consider why. He accidentally got his girlfriend pregnant while they were still in college, but he stepped up to the plate, worked hard to get his medical degree so he could support his family, ''and succeeded'', and he went on to live a happy life for a while... only to promptly [[AdultFear lose them all]] to TCB!Pinkie Pie and the PER, an event he blames himself for because he hired Pinkie to plan out his kids' birthday party. It's very clear that between losing his whole family, his time in the HLF and eventual recruitment into the Bundeswehr, the war did not have a good effect on his general state of mind. He's frequently mentioned as being an alcoholic, and that's not even touching on his guilt for the (implicitly) horrifying things he did in the HLF. According to Luna, his [[ShellShockedVeteran nightmares hang over him, even when he's awake]]. Not to mention, [[spoiler: since the only way to free the Newfoals from the mind control is to MercyKill them, Kraber's going to lose his family all over again]]. On top of that, he's aware that he's a bastard, and full of self-loathing. He's also implied to be suicidal.

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* Viktor Kraber certainly qualifies, despite being a highly [[AxCrazy trigger-happy]] BloodKnight... or possibly ''because'' he is when you consider why. He accidentally got his girlfriend pregnant while they were still in college, but he stepped up to the plate, worked hard to get his medical degree so he could support his family, ''and succeeded'', and he went on to live a happy life for a while... only to promptly [[AdultFear lose them all]] all to TCB!Pinkie Pie and the PER, an event he blames himself for because he hired Pinkie to plan out his kids' birthday party. It's very clear that between losing his whole family, his time in the HLF and eventual recruitment into the Bundeswehr, the war did not have a good effect on his general state of mind. He's frequently mentioned as being an alcoholic, and that's not even touching on his guilt for the (implicitly) horrifying things he did in the HLF. According to Luna, his [[ShellShockedVeteran nightmares hang over him, even when he's awake]]. Not to mention, [[spoiler: since the only way to free the Newfoals from the mind control is to MercyKill them, Kraber's going to lose his family all over again]]. On top of that, he's aware that he's a bastard, and full of self-loathing. He's also implied to be suicidal.
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* Rio/Nepenthe. [[TraumaCongaLine Oh, lordy...]] Rio. It counts as almost a mercy that [[DarkAndTroubledPast her past]] hasn't been expanded upon and most of it is barely explained, but from what little she reveals, she was [[IHaveNoSon disowned by her family]], [[WidowWoman lost her husband]], [[RapeAsBackstory got raped by someone she considered a friend]] and [[ChildByRape got pregnant]] as a result (though she did love her child), and then [[AdultFear her son went missing]]. After all that, it's not too hard to imagine why she thought the Solar Empire was a perfect paradise where she could live a happy life... and then it got worse for her, when she does get ponified and [[BeCarefulWhatYouWishFor learns the hard way]] that the Solar Empire doesn't care about her as she gets {{Mind Rape}}d into becoming everything she hated.

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* Rio/Nepenthe. [[TraumaCongaLine Oh, lordy...]] Rio. It counts as almost a mercy that [[DarkAndTroubledPast her past]] hasn't been expanded upon and most of it is barely explained, but from what little she reveals, she was [[IHaveNoSon disowned by her family]], [[WidowWoman lost her husband]], [[RapeAsBackstory got raped by someone she considered a friend]] and [[ChildByRape got pregnant]] as a result (though she did love her child), and then [[AdultFear her son went missing]].missing. After all that, it's not too hard to imagine why she thought the Solar Empire was a perfect paradise where she could live a happy life... and then it got worse for her, when she does get ponified and [[BeCarefulWhatYouWishFor learns the hard way]] that the Solar Empire doesn't care about her as she gets {{Mind Rape}}d into becoming everything she hated.
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---> Sometimes she babbled about events that had yet to happen, or screamingly re-experienced past horrors, not just from her own life, but of Eldritch nightmares from eons before Equestria's founding.

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---> --> Sometimes she babbled about events that had yet to happen, or screamingly re-experienced past horrors, not just from her own life, but of Eldritch nightmares from eons before Equestria's founding.
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* And in the form of UnintentionallySympathetic, [[FallenHero Queen Celestia]] herself is [[spoiler:probably the biggest victim in the story, she was just as benevolent as her Prime counterpart, but the Bag of Tirek has corrupted her mind and is now a puppet controlled by Tirek. The reason why she's an example of UnintentionallySympathetic is because the story didn't put a lot of emphasis over the fact that she's possessed and has no control over her actions]].

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* And in the form of UnintentionallySympathetic, [[FallenHero Queen Celestia]] herself is [[spoiler:probably the biggest victim in the story, she story. She was just as benevolent as her Prime counterpart, but the Bag of Tirek has corrupted her mind and is now a puppet controlled by Tirek. The reason why she's an example of UnintentionallySympathetic is because the story didn't put a lot of emphasis over the fact that she's possessed and has no control over her actions]].
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* If you don't feel sorry for Prime!Berry Punch and her family, you have no heart. Already before the divergence and the war on Earth, Berry appears to have had it pretty rough, given the [[DisappearedDad (unexplained) absence of Ruby's father]] and her subsequent descent into alcoholism. Berry managed to go on the wagon but was left heavily anxiety-prone from the experience, motivated primarily by her desire to keep her daughter safe... which puts her in a rather tight spot once the humans arrive and, despite her misgivings, she's drawn to the Loyalists. [[spoiler:And just as she looked ready to face her fears, it ends with her getting stabbed to death by a crazed Blue Spy, as witnessed by both Ruby and Berry's own sister, Cheerilee]].

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* If you don't feel sorry for Prime!Berry Punch and her family, you have no heart. Already before the divergence and the war on Earth, Berry appears to have had it pretty rough, given the [[DisappearedDad (unexplained) absence of Ruby's father]] and her subsequent descent into alcoholism. Berry managed to go on the wagon but was left heavily anxiety-prone from the experience, motivated primarily by her desire to keep her daughter safe... which puts her in a rather tight spot once the humans arrive and, despite her misgivings, she's drawn to the Loyalists. [[spoiler:And just as she looked ready to face her fears, it ends with her getting stabbed to death by a crazed Blue Spy, as witnessed by both Ruby and Berry's own sister, Cheerilee]].Cheerilee]].
* And in the form of UnintentionallySympathetic, [[FallenHero Queen Celestia]] herself is [[spoiler:probably the biggest victim in the story, she was just as benevolent as her Prime counterpart, but the Bag of Tirek has corrupted her mind and is now a puppet controlled by Tirek. The reason why she's an example of UnintentionallySympathetic is because the story didn't put a lot of emphasis over the fact that she's possessed and has no control over her actions]].

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* Stephan more than qualifies during "Sons of Legacies". He might [[OnlySaneMan have it together a bit better]] than Marcus, but it's clear he's utterly destroyed by the destruction of his home country and he's had to do some brutal things to survive the war (including being forced to MercyKill a bunch of ponified children).



* Hyong-Jin. As if being a citizen of North Korea wasn't hard enough, his father died when he was young, he discovers his mother and little sister (whom he vowed to watch over after his father's death) were ponified, and ''then'' he finds out that his home country got nuked into oblivion.
* Viktor Kraber certainly qualifies, despite being a highly [[AxCrazy trigger-happy]] BloodKnight... or possibly ''because'' he is when you consider why. He accidentally got his girlfriend pregnant while they were still in college, but he stepped up to the plate, worked hard to get his medical degree so he could support his family, ''and succeeded'', and he went on to live a happy life for a while... only to promptly [[AdultFear lose them all]] to TCB!Pinkie Pie and the PER, an event he blames himself for because he hired Pinkie to plan out his kids' birthday party. It's very clear that between losing his whole family, his time in the HLF and eventual recruitment into the Bundeswehr, the war did not have a good effect on his general state of mind. He's frequently mentioned as being an alcoholic, and that's not even touching on his guilt for the (implicitly) horrifying things he did in the HLF. According to Luna, his [[ShellShockedVeteran nightmares hang over him, even when he's awake]]. Not to mention, [[spoiler: since the only way to free the Newfoals from the mind control is to MercyKill them, Kraber's going to lose his family all over again]]. On top of that, he's aware that he's a bastard, and full of self-loathing. He's also implied to be suicidal as well.
** This is cranked up even further in ''Light Despondent''. Yes, there's plenty of KickTheDog moments, some of which he commits, but he feels every one to his core. He's hallucinating a newfoal that wants him to get ponified, there's another hallucinatory newfoal that repeatedly calls him a bastard, and as of chapter 8, he thinks that his true self is a mass-murdering psycho and that he was never a good person, and that killing is the only thing he's good for anymore. Small wonder he slides into a VillainousBreakdown at the end of chapter 8...
* Tess Jones, who's lost literally everything to Equestria, has accidentally killed civilians at least twice, and accidentally [[spoiler: left her family to die during an evacuation]].
* Stephan more than qualifies during "Sons of Legacies, Part 2". He might [[OnlySaneMan have it together a bit better]] than Marcus, but it's clear he's utterly destroyed by the destruction of his home country and he's had to do some brutal things to survive the war (including being forced to MercyKill a bunch of ponified children).

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* Hyong-Jin. As if being a citizen of North Korea wasn't hard enough, his father died when he was young, he discovers his mother and little sister (whom he vowed to watch over after his father's death) were ponified, and ''then'' he finds out that his home country got nuked into oblivion.
* Viktor Kraber certainly qualifies, despite being a highly [[AxCrazy trigger-happy]] BloodKnight... or possibly ''because'' he is when you consider why. He accidentally got his girlfriend pregnant while they were still in college, but he stepped up to the plate, worked hard to get his medical degree so he could support his family, ''and succeeded'', and he went on to live a happy life for a while... only to promptly [[AdultFear lose them all]] to TCB!Pinkie Pie and the PER, an event he blames himself for because he hired Pinkie to plan out his kids' birthday party. It's very clear that between losing his whole family, his time in the HLF and eventual recruitment into the Bundeswehr, the war did not have a good effect on his general state of mind. He's frequently mentioned as being an alcoholic, and that's not even touching on his guilt for the (implicitly) horrifying things he did in the HLF. According to Luna, his [[ShellShockedVeteran nightmares hang over him, even when he's awake]]. Not to mention, [[spoiler: since the only way to free the Newfoals from the mind control is to MercyKill them, Kraber's going to lose his family all over again]]. On top of that, he's aware that he's a bastard, and full of self-loathing. He's also implied to be suicidal as well.
** This is cranked up even further in ''Light Despondent''. Yes, there's plenty of KickTheDog moments, some of which he commits, but he feels every one to his core. He's hallucinating a newfoal that wants him to get ponified, there's another hallucinatory newfoal that repeatedly calls him a bastard, and as of chapter 8, he thinks that his true self is a mass-murdering psycho and that he was never a good person, and that killing is the only thing he's good for anymore. Small wonder he slides into a VillainousBreakdown at the end of chapter 8...
* Tess Jones, who's lost literally everything to Equestria, has accidentally killed civilians at least twice, and accidentally [[spoiler: left her family to die during an evacuation]].
* Stephan more than qualifies during "Sons of Legacies, Part 2". He might [[OnlySaneMan have it together a bit better]] than Marcus, but it's clear he's utterly destroyed by the destruction of his home country and he's had to do some brutal things to survive the war (including being forced to MercyKill a bunch of ponified children).
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* Tess Jones, who's lost literally everything to Equestria, has accidentally killed civilians at least twice, and accidentally [[spoiler: left her family to die during an evacuation]].



* Hyong-Jin. As if being a citizen of North Korea wasn't hard enough, his father died when he was young, he discovers his mother and little sister (whom he vowed to watch over after his father's death) were ponified, and ''then'' he finds out that his home country got nuked into oblivion.



* Canon!Lightning Dust in the ''Last Train From Oblivion'' side-story counts as a JerkassWoobie. The fact that she is legitimately frightened and disgusted with what her TCB counterpart is doing to the humans does help to redeem her.

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* Canon!Lightning Prime!Lightning Dust in the ''Last Train From Oblivion'' side-story counts as a JerkassWoobie. The fact that she is legitimately frightened and disgusted with what her TCB counterpart is doing to the humans does help to redeem her.



* Rockwell. Sure, he's a grouchy and crotchety old stallion with a personal [[FantasticRacism dislike of unicorns]]... but he hasn't had it easy either, what with [[spoiler:feeling the corruption of Equestria hard enough to feel sick as a result, his attempt to save his Royal Guard brother from getting controlled by the geis ending with said brother being put in a coma, being forced to leave his wife and daughter on Earth to protect them, and then getting exposed to the Bag of Tirek, where he sees the awful fate that befell the TCB!Mane Six, the potion tests and even meets Tirek himself]]. He could also count as an IronWoobie too, as he still soldiers on despite his trauma.
* [[WordOfGod According to VoxAdam]], Weaver, a personal assassin of Queen Celestia's, is meant to be a JerkassWoobie. Sure, she's a cold blooded killer who wouldn't hesitate to follow any of her queen's orders, even [[WouldHurtAChild killing children]]... but it's also made clear that she is deeply mentally disturbed thanks to the untreated chronic depression she's endured since foalhood and she's [[NotBrainwashed genuinely convinced]] that the queen is leading all of ponykind and humanity to a truly more harmonious future. On top of that, she is well aware that [[NoPlaceForMeThere she could never belong in the ideal world she seeks to create]], and has already accepted that she will need to remove herself from the picture once the Empire's crusade is done.

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* Inkwell. Initially a sheltered young unicorn and aspiring IntrepidReporter with a desire to do good, his efforts to expose the unjust treatment of Newfoals gets him in very hot water when he ends up getting too close to the truth. He winds up in a brutal prison camp, forced to mine for raw materials, seeing the low depths his fellow ponies have sunk to in their xenophobic crusade, all the while the Warden has singled him out as someone to keep an eye on.
* Rockwell. Sure, he's a grouchy and crotchety old stallion with a personal [[FantasticRacism dislike of unicorns]]... but he hasn't had it easy either, what with [[spoiler:feeling the corruption of Equestria hard enough to feel sick as a result, his attempt to save his Royal Guard brother from getting controlled by the geis ending with said brother being put in a coma, being forced to leave his wife and daughter on Earth to protect them, and then getting exposed to the Bag of Tirek, where he sees the awful fate that befell the TCB!Mane Six, the potion tests and even meets Tirek himself]]. He could also count as an IronWoobie too, as he still soldiers on despite his trauma.
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* [[WordOfGod According to VoxAdam]], Weaver, a personal assassin of Queen Celestia's, is meant to be a JerkassWoobie. Sure, she's a cold blooded killer who wouldn't hesitate Weaver barely hesitates to follow any of her queen's orders, even [[WouldHurtAChild killing children]]... children]], but it's also made clear that she doesn't mean that she's in any way happy about it; hers is deeply mentally disturbed thanks to the fate of a desperate person, so ground down by the untreated chronic depression she's endured since foalhood and she's childhood that she had become [[NotBrainwashed genuinely convinced]] that the queen Tyrant is leading all of ponykind and humanity to into a truly more harmonious future. On top of that, she is well aware future... all while knowing that [[NoPlaceForMeThere she could never belong in the ideal world she seeks to create]], and has already accepted that she will need to remove herself from the picture once the Empire's crusade is done.done. Whichever way you look at it, the chances are slim to none that there's a happy ending in store for her.



* Inkwell. Initially a sheltered young unicorn and aspiring IntrepidReporter with a desire to do good, his efforts to expose the unjust treatment of Newfoals gets him in very hot water when he ends up getting too close to the truth. He winds up in a brutal prison camp, forced to mine for raw materials, seeing the low depths his fellow ponies have sunk to in their xenophobic crusade, all the while the Warden has singled him out as someone to keep an eye on.

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* Inkwell. Initially a sheltered young unicorn If you don't feel sorry for Prime!Berry Punch and aspiring IntrepidReporter with a her family, you have no heart. Already before the divergence and the war on Earth, Berry appears to have had it pretty rough, given the [[DisappearedDad (unexplained) absence of Ruby's father]] and her subsequent descent into alcoholism. Berry managed to go on the wagon but was left heavily anxiety-prone from the experience, motivated primarily by her desire to do good, his efforts to expose keep her daughter safe... which puts her in a rather tight spot once the unjust treatment of Newfoals gets him in very hot water when he humans arrive and, despite her misgivings, she's drawn to the Loyalists. [[spoiler:And just as she looked ready to face her fears, it ends up with her getting too close stabbed to the truth. He winds up in death by a brutal prison camp, forced to mine for raw materials, seeing the low depths his fellow ponies have sunk to in their xenophobic crusade, all the while the Warden has singled him out crazed Blue Spy, as someone to keep an eye on.witnessed by both Ruby and Berry's own sister, Cheerilee]].

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* Canon!Catseye, [[JerkassWoobie believe it]] [[TheScrappy or not]]. She may seem like another PoliticallyIncorrectVillain who is endangering all Equestria stands for by listening to the Solar Tyrant in her dreams. But between her [[HalfBreedDiscrimination heritage]] and her [[BoomerangBigot attitude towards non-ponies and pony hybrids]], it's not hard to imagine how miserable and self-loathing she is and how pliable that made her towards Queen Celestia's influence. The worst part is there are hints in her narration that she has her doubts about this, but both the Queen and her own followers keep shooting down any second guessing in someone who's ripe for a HeelRealization.

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* Canon!Catseye, Prime!Catseye, [[JerkassWoobie believe it]] [[TheScrappy or not]]. She may seem like another PoliticallyIncorrectVillain who is endangering all Equestria stands for by listening to the Solar Tyrant in her dreams. But between her [[HalfBreedDiscrimination heritage]] and her [[BoomerangBigot attitude towards non-ponies and pony hybrids]], it's not hard to imagine how miserable and self-loathing she is and how pliable that made her towards Queen Celestia's influence. The worst part is there are hints in her narration that she has her doubts about this, but both the Queen and her own followers keep shooting down any second guessing in someone who's ripe for a HeelRealization.



* TCB!Comet Tail doesn't have it easy either. In ''Asia'', she still tries to stay cheerful despite everything that's been happening to her, up to and including losing her her once-beloved father (whom she disowned out of anger and bitterness), her friend (and [[PuppyLove mutual crush]]) Frost Wind, and just being [[HarmfulToMinors exposed to things]] that ''no'' child should be exposed to. By the time ''Other Side of the Mirror'' rolls around, she's a pretty effective ChildSoldier who guns down Newfoals with ruthless efficiency (to the point her perfectly well-adjusted Prime counterpart sees her as a badass hero... much to her own parents' shock and disgust).

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* TCB!Comet Tail doesn't have it easy either. In ''Asia'', she still tries to stay cheerful despite everything that's been happening to her, up to and including losing her her once-beloved father (whom she disowned out of anger and bitterness), her friend (and [[PuppyLove mutual crush]]) Frost Wind, and just being [[HarmfulToMinors exposed to things]] that ''no'' child should be exposed to. By the time ''Other Side of the Mirror'' rolls around, she's a pretty effective ChildSoldier who guns down Newfoals with ruthless efficiency (to the point her perfectly well-adjusted Prime counterpart sees her as a badass hero... much to her own parents' shock and disgust).disgust).
* Inkwell. Initially a sheltered young unicorn and aspiring IntrepidReporter with a desire to do good, his efforts to expose the unjust treatment of Newfoals gets him in very hot water when he ends up getting too close to the truth. He winds up in a brutal prison camp, forced to mine for raw materials, seeing the low depths his fellow ponies have sunk to in their xenophobic crusade, all the while the Warden has singled him out as someone to keep an eye on.
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* Poor little TCB!Frost Wind in ''Joy to the Worlds''. His older brother is a soldier fighting in the war on Earth and most likely has died in action, his fun cousin (and surrogate big brother of sorts) left home and never came back, his friend (and [[PuppyLove crush]]) Comet Tail left home thanks to the war, and on top of that, he has to watch his home turn into a fascist, poverty stricken hellhole filled with the freaky zombie-like Newfoals.

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* Poor little TCB!Frost Wind in ''Joy to the Worlds''. His older brother is a soldier fighting in the war on Earth and most likely has died in action, his fun cousin (and surrogate big brother of sorts) left home and never came back, his friend (and [[PuppyLove crush]]) Comet Tail left home thanks to the war, and on top of that, he has to watch his home turn into a fascist, poverty stricken hellhole filled with the freaky zombie-like Newfoals.Newfoals.
* TCB!Comet Tail doesn't have it easy either. In ''Asia'', she still tries to stay cheerful despite everything that's been happening to her, up to and including losing her her once-beloved father (whom she disowned out of anger and bitterness), her friend (and [[PuppyLove mutual crush]]) Frost Wind, and just being [[HarmfulToMinors exposed to things]] that ''no'' child should be exposed to. By the time ''Other Side of the Mirror'' rolls around, she's a pretty effective ChildSoldier who guns down Newfoals with ruthless efficiency (to the point her perfectly well-adjusted Prime counterpart sees her as a badass hero... much to her own parents' shock and disgust).
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* [[WordOfGod According to VoxAdam]], Weaver, a personal assassin of Queen Celestia's, is meant to be a JerkassWoobie. Sure, she's a cold blooded killer who wouldn't hesitate to follow any of her queen's orders, even [[WouldHurtAChild killing children]]... but it's also made clear that she is deeply mentally disturbed thanks to the untreated chronic depression she's endured since foalhood and she's [[NotBrainwashed genuinely convinced]] that the queen is leading all of ponykind and humanity to a truly more harmonious future. On top of that, she is well aware that [[NoPlaceForMeThere she could never belong in the ideal world she seeks to create]], and has already accepted that she will need to remove herself from the picture once the Empire's crusade is done.

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* [[WordOfGod According to VoxAdam]], Weaver, a personal assassin of Queen Celestia's, is meant to be a JerkassWoobie. Sure, she's a cold blooded killer who wouldn't hesitate to follow any of her queen's orders, even [[WouldHurtAChild killing children]]... but it's also made clear that she is deeply mentally disturbed thanks to the untreated chronic depression she's endured since foalhood and she's [[NotBrainwashed genuinely convinced]] that the queen is leading all of ponykind and humanity to a truly more harmonious future. On top of that, she is well aware that [[NoPlaceForMeThere she could never belong in the ideal world she seeks to create]], and has already accepted that she will need to remove herself from the picture once the Empire's crusade is done.done.
* Poor little TCB!Frost Wind in ''Joy to the Worlds''. His older brother is a soldier fighting in the war on Earth and most likely has died in action, his fun cousin (and surrogate big brother of sorts) left home and never came back, his friend (and [[PuppyLove crush]]) Comet Tail left home thanks to the war, and on top of that, he has to watch his home turn into a fascist, poverty stricken hellhole filled with the freaky zombie-like Newfoals.
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It would take far less time to list the characters that don't qualify as a {{Woobie}} in the ''Spectrumverse''. But since we're committed to this, and literally every heroic character ([[spoiler: and even a few antagonists]]) qualifies as an example, we might as well...

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It would take far less time to list the characters that don't qualify as a {{Woobie}} in the ''Spectrumverse''. But since we're committed to this, and literally every heroic character ([[spoiler: and ([[spoiler:and even a few antagonists]]) qualifies as an example, we might as well...
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* [[WordOfGod According to VoxAdam]], Weaver, a personal assassin of Queen Celestia's, is meant to be a JerkassWoobie. Sure, she's a cold blooded killer who wouldn't hesitate to follow any of her queen's orders, even [[WouldHurtAChild killing children]]... but it's also made clear that she is deeply mentally disturbed thanks to the untreated chronic depression she's endured since foalhood and she's genuinely convinced that the queen is leading all of ponykind and humanity to a truly more harmonious future. On top of that, she is well aware that [[NoPlaceForMeThere she could never belong in the ideal world she seeks to create]], and has already accepted that she will need to remove herself from the picture once the Empire's crusade is done.

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* [[WordOfGod According to VoxAdam]], Weaver, a personal assassin of Queen Celestia's, is meant to be a JerkassWoobie. Sure, she's a cold blooded killer who wouldn't hesitate to follow any of her queen's orders, even [[WouldHurtAChild killing children]]... but it's also made clear that she is deeply mentally disturbed thanks to the untreated chronic depression she's endured since foalhood and she's [[NotBrainwashed genuinely convinced convinced]] that the queen is leading all of ponykind and humanity to a truly more harmonious future. On top of that, she is well aware that [[NoPlaceForMeThere she could never belong in the ideal world she seeks to create]], and has already accepted that she will need to remove herself from the picture once the Empire's crusade is done.
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-->'''Lightning Dust''': “Then suddenly, I’m the enemy and beings I’ve never seen before are trying to kill me! And apparently, I’m in love with that filly that did a sonic rainboom in this world, and my home’s at war and trying to turn people into what look like zombies! I still have barely any idea what’s going on, I’ve gotten nothing but horror since I got to this nightmare world, I have NOTHING to go back to, and I’ll probably get killed if I try to go back to Equestria!”

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-->'''Lightning Dust''': “Then Dust:''' "Then suddenly, I’m I'm the enemy and beings I’ve I've never seen before are trying to kill me! And apparently, I’m I'm in love with that filly that did a sonic rainboom in this world, and my home’s home's at war and trying to turn people into what look like zombies! I still have barely any idea what’s what's going on, I’ve I've gotten nothing but horror since I got to this nightmare world, I have NOTHING to go back to, and I’ll I'll probably get killed if I try to go back to Equestria!”Equestria!"
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* The [[NoNameGiven unnamed former Headmaster]] of Celestia's School for Gifted Unicorns can count. For one thing, [[spoiler: the Bag of Tirek forced him to carry it over to TCB!Celestia]], and he's utterly traumatized by the experience. But he [[IronWoobie steps up to the plate]] nonetheless to atone for his mistake, putting considerable mental and physical stress on himself as he goes between Equus and Earth, seeing the worst depths both ponykind and humanity have sunk to and seeing his beloved homeland turn into a fascist hellhole. Oh, and to rub more salt into his emotional wounds, Weaver was [[APupilOfMineUntilHeTurnedToEvil his former student]], and as a result he feels directly responsible for many of her crimes too.

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* The [[NoNameGiven unnamed former Headmaster]] of Celestia's School for Gifted Unicorns can count. For one thing, [[spoiler: the Bag of Tirek forced him to carry it over to TCB!Celestia]], and he's utterly traumatized by the experience. But he [[IronWoobie steps up to the plate]] nonetheless to atone for his mistake, putting considerable mental and physical stress on himself as he goes between Equus and Earth, seeing the worst depths both ponykind and humanity have sunk to and seeing his beloved homeland turn into a fascist hellhole. Oh, and to rub more salt into his emotional wounds, Weaver was [[APupilOfMineUntilHeTurnedToEvil his former student]], and as a result he feels directly responsible for many of her crimes too.too.
* Canon!Lightning Dust in the ''Last Train From Oblivion'' side-story counts as a JerkassWoobie. The fact that she is legitimately frightened and disgusted with what her TCB counterpart is doing to the humans does help to redeem her.
* Rockwell. Sure, he's a grouchy and crotchety old stallion with a personal [[FantasticRacism dislike of unicorns]]... but he hasn't had it easy either, what with [[spoiler:feeling the corruption of Equestria hard enough to feel sick as a result, his attempt to save his Royal Guard brother from getting controlled by the geis ending with said brother being put in a coma, being forced to leave his wife and daughter on Earth to protect them, and then getting exposed to the Bag of Tirek, where he sees the awful fate that befell the TCB!Mane Six, the potion tests and even meets Tirek himself]]. He could also count as an IronWoobie too, as he still soldiers on despite his trauma.
* [[WordOfGod According to VoxAdam]], Weaver, a personal assassin of Queen Celestia's, is meant to be a JerkassWoobie. Sure, she's a cold blooded killer who wouldn't hesitate to follow any of her queen's orders, even [[WouldHurtAChild killing children]]... but it's also made clear that she is deeply mentally disturbed thanks to the untreated chronic depression she's endured since foalhood and she's genuinely convinced that the queen is leading all of ponykind and humanity to a truly more harmonious future. On top of that, she is well aware that [[NoPlaceForMeThere she could never belong in the ideal world she seeks to create]], and has already accepted that she will need to remove herself from the picture once the Empire's crusade is done.
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* Porter is revealed to be one in "The Face of the Enemy" when he reveals that he convinced Eun-Hee to go to the press conference in Berne [[ILetGwenStacyDie where she was ponified]] and continues to [[ItsAllMyFault carry a lot guilt]] on his conscience for it. He even admits that if he didn't have the support system he has now, he would've become just as vicious and vengeful as any other HLF member.

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* Porter is revealed to be one in "The Face of the Enemy" when he reveals that he convinced Eun-Hee to go to the press conference in Berne [[ILetGwenStacyDie where she was ponified]] and continues to [[ItsAllMyFault carry a lot guilt]] on his conscience for it. He even admits that if he didn't have the support system he has now, he would've become just as vicious and vengeful as any other HLF member.member.
* The [[NoNameGiven unnamed former Headmaster]] of Celestia's School for Gifted Unicorns can count. For one thing, [[spoiler: the Bag of Tirek forced him to carry it over to TCB!Celestia]], and he's utterly traumatized by the experience. But he [[IronWoobie steps up to the plate]] nonetheless to atone for his mistake, putting considerable mental and physical stress on himself as he goes between Equus and Earth, seeing the worst depths both ponykind and humanity have sunk to and seeing his beloved homeland turn into a fascist hellhole. Oh, and to rub more salt into his emotional wounds, Weaver was [[APupilOfMineUntilHeTurnedToEvil his former student]], and as a result he feels directly responsible for many of her crimes too.

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* Hyong-Jin from the Asia Side-Story. As if being a citizen of North Korea wasn't hard enough, his father died when he was young, he discovers his mother and little sister (whom he vowed to watch over after his father's death) were ponified, and ''then'' he finds out that his home country got nuked into oblivion.

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* Hyong-Jin from the Asia Side-Story.Hyong-Jin. As if being a citizen of North Korea wasn't hard enough, his father died when he was young, he discovers his mother and little sister (whom he vowed to watch over after his father's death) were ponified, and ''then'' he finds out that his home country got nuked into oblivion.



* Verity Carter. For all her attitude problems, it's also pretty clear she's a very scared and sad young woman who has lost just about everything to the Solar Empire. Her beloved mother took the ponification serum as a cure for a medical condition she had, and then abandoned her to live in Equestria, spurning her to join the HLF. And then she somehow was turned into a pony yet still retained her free will and original personality. Besides getting turned into what she hated most, there's also the fact that her father disowned her after seeing her as a pony and all her former friends and comrades are gunning for her.

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* Verity Carter. For all her attitude problems, it's also pretty clear she's a very scared and sad young woman who has lost just about everything to the Solar Empire. Her beloved mother took the ponification serum as a cure for a medical condition she had, and then abandoned her to live in Equestria, spurning her to join the HLF. And then she somehow was turned into a pony yet still retained her free will and original personality. Besides getting turned into what she hated most, there's also the fact that her father [[IHaveNoSon disowned her her]] after seeing her as a pony and all her former friends and comrades are gunning for her.her.
* Porter is revealed to be one in "The Face of the Enemy" when he reveals that he convinced Eun-Hee to go to the press conference in Berne [[ILetGwenStacyDie where she was ponified]] and continues to [[ItsAllMyFault carry a lot guilt]] on his conscience for it. He even admits that if he didn't have the support system he has now, he would've become just as vicious and vengeful as any other HLF member.
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* The TCB!Princesses; Cadance was betrayed by her true love thanks to him being brainwashed into an unshakable fanatic for the Queen's cause – in Marcus's words, TCB!Shining Armor "attempted to subdue [Cadance] and drag her to the Tyrant with a smile." And Luna was emotionally manipulated by her sister (through her fears of becoming [[SuperPoweredEvilSide Nightmare Moon]] - Celestia used any of Luna's doubts to make her afraid she was becoming Nightmare Moon once more) despite her doubts about the conversion bureaus and the war, and when she finally gained the courage to defy Celestia once more, she ended up getting turned to stone for her trouble.

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* The TCB!Princesses; Cadance was betrayed by her true love thanks to him being brainwashed into an unshakable fanatic for the Queen's cause – in Marcus's words, cause, and Marcus states that at one point, TCB!Shining Armor "attempted to subdue [Cadance] and drag her to the Tyrant with a smile." And Luna was emotionally manipulated by her sister (through her fears of becoming [[SuperPoweredEvilSide Nightmare Moon]] - (specifically, Celestia used any of Luna's doubts to make her afraid she was becoming Nightmare Moon once more) again) despite her doubts about the conversion bureaus and the war, and when she finally gained the courage to defy Celestia once more, she ended up getting turned to stone for her trouble.
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* The TCB!Princesses; Cadance was betrayed by her true love thanks to him being brainwashed into an unshakable fanatic for the Queen's cause – in Marcus's words, TCB!Shining Armor "attempted to subdue [Cadance] and drag her to the Tyrant with a smile." And Luna was emotionally manipulated by her sister despite her doubts about the conversion bureaus and the war, and when she finally gained the courage to defy Celestia once more, she ended up getting turned to stone for her trouble.

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* The TCB!Princesses; Cadance was betrayed by her true love thanks to him being brainwashed into an unshakable fanatic for the Queen's cause – in Marcus's words, TCB!Shining Armor "attempted to subdue [Cadance] and drag her to the Tyrant with a smile." And Luna was emotionally manipulated by her sister (through her fears of becoming [[SuperPoweredEvilSide Nightmare Moon]] - Celestia used any of Luna's doubts to make her afraid she was becoming Nightmare Moon once more) despite her doubts about the conversion bureaus and the war, and when she finally gained the courage to defy Celestia once more, she ended up getting turned to stone for her trouble.
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* The TCB!Princesses; Cadance was betrayed by her true love thanks to him being brainwashed into an unshakable fanatic for the Queen's cause – in Marcus's words, TCB!Shining Armor "attempted to subdue [Cadance] and drag her to the Tyrant with a smile." And Luna was so sickened by what her sister was doing that she defied Celestia once more, but ended up getting turned to stone for her trouble.

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* The TCB!Princesses; Cadance was betrayed by her true love thanks to him being brainwashed into an unshakable fanatic for the Queen's cause – in Marcus's words, TCB!Shining Armor "attempted to subdue [Cadance] and drag her to the Tyrant with a smile." And Luna was so sickened emotionally manipulated by what her sister was doing that despite her doubts about the conversion bureaus and the war, and when she defied finally gained the courage to defy Celestia once more, but she ended up getting turned to stone for her trouble.

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* Viktor Kraber certainly qualifies, despite being a highly [[AxCrazy trigger-happy]] BloodKnight... or possibly ''because'' he is when you consider why. He accidentally got his girlfriend pregnant while they were still in college, but he stepped up to the plate, worked hard to get his medical degree so he could support his family, ''and succeeded'', and he went on to live a happy life for a while... only to promptly [[AdultFear lose them all]] to TCB!Pinkie Pie and the PER, an event he blames himself for because he hired Pinkie to plan out his kids' birthday party. It's very clear that between losing his whole family, his time in the HLF and eventual recruitment into the Bundeswehr, the war did not have a good effect on his general state of mind. He's frequently mentioned as being an alcoholic, and that's not even touching on his guilt for the (implicitly) horrifying things he did in the HLF. According to Luna, his [[ShellShockedVeteran nightmares hang over him, even when he's awake]]. Not to mention, [[spoiler: since the only way to free the Newfoals from the mind control is to MercyKill them, Kraber's going to lose his family all over again]].

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* Viktor Kraber certainly qualifies, despite being a highly [[AxCrazy trigger-happy]] BloodKnight... or possibly ''because'' he is when you consider why. He accidentally got his girlfriend pregnant while they were still in college, but he stepped up to the plate, worked hard to get his medical degree so he could support his family, ''and succeeded'', and he went on to live a happy life for a while... only to promptly [[AdultFear lose them all]] to TCB!Pinkie Pie and the PER, an event he blames himself for because he hired Pinkie to plan out his kids' birthday party. It's very clear that between losing his whole family, his time in the HLF and eventual recruitment into the Bundeswehr, the war did not have a good effect on his general state of mind. He's frequently mentioned as being an alcoholic, and that's not even touching on his guilt for the (implicitly) horrifying things he did in the HLF. According to Luna, his [[ShellShockedVeteran nightmares hang over him, even when he's awake]]. Not to mention, [[spoiler: since the only way to free the Newfoals from the mind control is to MercyKill them, Kraber's going to lose his family all over again]]. On top of that, he's aware that he's a bastard, and full of self-loathing. He's also implied to be suicidal as well.
** This is cranked up even further in ''Light Despondent''. Yes, there's plenty of KickTheDog moments, some of which he commits, but he feels every one to his core. He's hallucinating a newfoal that wants him to get ponified, there's another hallucinatory newfoal that repeatedly calls him a bastard, and as of chapter 8, he thinks that his true self is a mass-murdering psycho and that he was never a good person, and that killing is the only thing he's good for anymore. Small wonder he slides into a VillainousBreakdown at the end of chapter 8...
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* Canon!Catseye, [[JerkassWoobie believe it]] [[TheScrappy or not]]. She may seem like another PoliticallyIncorrectVillain who is endangering all Equestria stands for by listening to the Solar Tyrant in her dreams. But between her [[HalfBreedDiscrimination heritage]] and her [[BoomerangBigot attitude towards non-ponies and pony hybrids]], it's not hard to imagine how miserable and self-loathing she is and how pliable that made her towards Queen Celestia's influence. The worst part is there are hints in her narration that she has her doubts about this, but both the Queen and her own followers keep shooting down any second guessing in someone who's ripe for a HeelRealization.

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* Canon!Catseye, [[JerkassWoobie believe it]] [[TheScrappy or not]]. She may seem like another PoliticallyIncorrectVillain who is endangering all Equestria stands for by listening to the Solar Tyrant in her dreams. But between her [[HalfBreedDiscrimination heritage]] and her [[BoomerangBigot attitude towards non-ponies and pony hybrids]], it's not hard to imagine how miserable and self-loathing she is and how pliable that made her towards Queen Celestia's influence. The worst part is there are hints in her narration that she has her doubts about this, but both the Queen and her own followers keep shooting down any second guessing in someone who's ripe for a HeelRealization.HeelRealization.
* Verity Carter. For all her attitude problems, it's also pretty clear she's a very scared and sad young woman who has lost just about everything to the Solar Empire. Her beloved mother took the ponification serum as a cure for a medical condition she had, and then abandoned her to live in Equestria, spurning her to join the HLF. And then she somehow was turned into a pony yet still retained her free will and original personality. Besides getting turned into what she hated most, there's also the fact that her father disowned her after seeing her as a pony and all her former friends and comrades are gunning for her.
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*** The TCB!Princesses; Cadance was betrayed by her true love thanks to him being brainwashed into an unshakable fanatic for the Queen's cause – in Marcus's words, TCB!Shining Armor "attempted to subdue [Cadance] and drag her to the Tyrant with a smile." And Luna was so sickened b what her sister was doing that she defied Celestia once more, but ended up getting turned to stone for her trouble.

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*** * The TCB!Princesses; Cadance was betrayed by her true love thanks to him being brainwashed into an unshakable fanatic for the Queen's cause – in Marcus's words, TCB!Shining Armor "attempted to subdue [Cadance] and drag her to the Tyrant with a smile." And Luna was so sickened b by what her sister was doing that she defied Celestia once more, but ended up getting turned to stone for her trouble.

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* TheWoobie: It would take far less time to list the characters that don't qualify. But since we're committed to this, and literally every heroic character ([[spoiler: and even a few antagonists]]) qualifies as an example, we might as well:
** Let us start with our hero, Marcus. The war has turned him into a [[ShellShockedVeteran nearly empty]] and [[SociopathicSoldier borderline psychotic]] shell of a man. Even before the invasion, he lost his father at a young age, then witnessed the worst of mankind during his time as a soldier in the Middle East. When the story begins, Marcus is the last member of his family still alive, and he's done some pretty brutal things fighting to stop the Solar Empire.
** The argument could be made for every surviving human. By the year 2023, three years into the war, millions of people are refugees with literally no homeland to return to, since the Barrier annihilates any man-made object in its way (not even leaving dust behind). Even those who haven't lost their home yet are just counting down until the Barrier reaches their front lawn. Try living for all that time, attempting to go about your daily lives, while knowing that your world is dying inch by inch.
*** Hyong-Jin from the Asia Side-Story. As if being a citizen of North Korea wasn't hard enough, his father died when he was young, he discovers his mother and little sister (whom he vowed to watch over after his father's death) were ponified, and ''then'' he finds out that his home country got nuked into oblivion.
*** Viktor Kraber certainly qualifies, despite being a highly [[AxCrazy trigger-happy]] BloodKnight... or possibly ''because'' he is when you consider why. He accidentally got his girlfriend pregnant while they were still in college, but he stepped up to the plate, worked hard to get his medical degree so he could support his family, ''and succeeded'', and he went on to live a happy life for a while... only to promptly [[AdultFear lose them all]] to TCB!Pinkie Pie and the PER, an event he blames himself for because he hired Pinkie to plan out his kids' birthday party. It's very clear that between losing his whole family, his time in the HLF and eventual recruitment into the Bundeswehr, the war did not have a good effect on his general state of mind. He's frequently mentioned as being an alcoholic, and that's not even touching on his guilt for the (implicitly) horrifying things he did in the HLF. According to Luna, his [[ShellShockedVeteran nightmares hang over him, even when he's awake]]. Not to mention, [[spoiler: since the only way to free the Newfoals from the mind control is to MercyKill them, Kraber's going to lose his family all over again]].
*** Tess, who's lost literally everything to Equestria, has killed civilians at least twice, and accidentally [[spoiler: left her family to die]]. Though considering her personality and less than kind treatment towards the ponies, she could be closer to a JerkassWoobie.
*** Stephan more than qualifies during "Sons of Legacies, Part 2". He might [[OnlySaneMan have it together a bit better]] than Marcus, but it's clear he's utterly destroyed by the destruction of his home country and he's had to do some brutal things to survive the war (including being forced to MercyKill a bunch of ponified children).
** The same goes for the ponies who fled Equestria, many of whom are fighting the imperialist nightmare their once beloved home country has turned into. Making things worse is that even though most of them were just as taken by surprise as mankind when Queen Celestia declared war on Earth, there are enough humans who hate all ponies indiscriminately for their lives to be continuously endangered by the very people they are trying to help.
*** TCB!Lyra surely counts, though it doesn't get as much focus as [[BigGood the more inspirational]] [[MessianicArchetype side of]] [[RebelLeader her character]]. This is a mare who got to live her dream of meeting humans, and thanks to being in Celestia's good graces, she got to become an ambassador to humanity. But then she realized just what the Queen was planning, feeling utterly betrayed, and it was clear that denouncing her once beloved home country was not easy for her. And aside from the burdens of leading a planet-wide rebellion against her own homeland, facing fear and mistrust from the same humans she was trying to protect, her own girlfriend (initially) decrying her cause as little more than paranoia and a waste of time, and getting sentenced to a horrible death (while her girlfriend was forced to watch, no less), there's also [[spoiler: the fact that if she found out what the Bag of Tirek did to Celestia, Lyra would have had to live with the guilt of knowing that what happened was all her fault, without ever being able to tell anyone]]. BeingGoodSucks, indeed.
*** TCB!Bon-Bon, [[DrivenToMadness whose mind was broken]] [[WidowWoman after the Queen executed Lyra]]. Nowadays she's just a babbling mess diagnosed with chronological lobular desync disorder (think of it as a stroke [[DisSimile which lets you view both the present and any point of history at the same time]], [[MadOracle with everything that implies]]).

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* TheWoobie: It would take far less time to list the characters that don't qualify. qualify as a {{Woobie}} in the ''Spectrumverse''. But since we're committed to this, and literally every heroic character ([[spoiler: and even a few antagonists]]) qualifies as an example, we might as well:
**
well...

*
Let us start with our hero, Marcus. The war has turned him into a [[ShellShockedVeteran nearly empty]] and [[SociopathicSoldier borderline psychotic]] shell of a man. man who is barely able to keep his head above the water. Even before the Solar Empire's invasion, he lost his father at a young age, then witnessed the worst of mankind during his time as a soldier in the Middle East. When the story begins, Marcus is the last member of his family still alive, and he's done some pretty brutal things fighting to stop the Solar Empire.
** * The argument could be made for every surviving human. By the year 2023, three years into the war, millions of people are refugees with literally no homeland to return to, since the Barrier annihilates any man-made object in its way (not even leaving dust behind). Even those who haven't lost their home yet are just counting down until the Barrier reaches their front lawn. Try living for all that time, attempting to go about your daily lives, while knowing that your world is dying inch by inch.
*** * Hyong-Jin from the Asia Side-Story. As if being a citizen of North Korea wasn't hard enough, his father died when he was young, he discovers his mother and little sister (whom he vowed to watch over after his father's death) were ponified, and ''then'' he finds out that his home country got nuked into oblivion.
*** * Viktor Kraber certainly qualifies, despite being a highly [[AxCrazy trigger-happy]] BloodKnight... or possibly ''because'' he is when you consider why. He accidentally got his girlfriend pregnant while they were still in college, but he stepped up to the plate, worked hard to get his medical degree so he could support his family, ''and succeeded'', and he went on to live a happy life for a while... only to promptly [[AdultFear lose them all]] to TCB!Pinkie Pie and the PER, an event he blames himself for because he hired Pinkie to plan out his kids' birthday party. It's very clear that between losing his whole family, his time in the HLF and eventual recruitment into the Bundeswehr, the war did not have a good effect on his general state of mind. He's frequently mentioned as being an alcoholic, and that's not even touching on his guilt for the (implicitly) horrifying things he did in the HLF. According to Luna, his [[ShellShockedVeteran nightmares hang over him, even when he's awake]]. Not to mention, [[spoiler: since the only way to free the Newfoals from the mind control is to MercyKill them, Kraber's going to lose his family all over again]].
*** Tess, * Tess Jones, who's lost literally everything to Equestria, has accidentally killed civilians at least twice, and accidentally [[spoiler: left her family to die]]. Though considering her personality and less than kind treatment towards the ponies, she could be closer to a JerkassWoobie.
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die during an evacuation]].
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Stephan more than qualifies during "Sons of Legacies, Part 2". He might [[OnlySaneMan have it together a bit better]] than Marcus, but it's clear he's utterly destroyed by the destruction of his home country and he's had to do some brutal things to survive the war (including being forced to MercyKill a bunch of ponified children).
** * The same goes for the ponies who fled Equestria, many of whom are fighting the imperialist nightmare their once beloved home country has turned into. Making things worse is that even though most of them were just as taken by surprise as mankind when Queen Celestia declared war on Earth, there are enough humans who hate all ponies indiscriminately for their lives to be continuously endangered by the very people they are trying to help.
*** * TCB!Lyra surely counts, though it doesn't get as much focus as [[BigGood the more inspirational]] [[MessianicArchetype side of]] [[RebelLeader her character]]. This is a mare who got to live her dream of meeting humans, and thanks to being in Celestia's good graces, she got to become an ambassador to humanity. But then she realized just what the Queen was planning, feeling utterly betrayed, and it was clear that denouncing her once beloved home country was not easy for her. And aside from the burdens of leading a planet-wide rebellion against her own homeland, facing fear and mistrust from the same humans she was trying to protect, her own girlfriend (initially) decrying her cause as little more than paranoia and a waste of time, and getting sentenced to a horrible death (while her girlfriend was forced to watch, no less), there's also [[spoiler: the fact that if she found out what the Bag of Tirek did to Celestia, Lyra would have had to live with the guilt of knowing that what happened was all her fault, without ever being able to tell anyone]]. BeingGoodSucks, indeed.
*** * TCB!Bon-Bon, [[DrivenToMadness whose mind was broken]] [[WidowWoman after the Queen executed Lyra]]. Nowadays she's just a babbling mess diagnosed with chronological lobular desync disorder (think of it as a stroke [[DisSimile which lets you view both the present and any point of history at the same time]], [[MadOracle with everything that implies]]).



*** The TCB!Cutie Mark Crusaders; Scootaloo [[spoiler: suffers from a disease which causes the tissues of her wings to become necrotic, eventually requiring her to have them amputated. Her [[HopeSpot having]] [[AllJustADream an elaborate dream]] of gaining use of them only twists the knife further, so to speak]]. Meanwhile, Sweetie Belle and Applebloom could only helplessly watch as their beloved sisters became hateful nutjobs hellbent on destroying all of humanity.
*** TCB!Trixie (aka the Blue Spy) is a PHL operative who seems to be BecomingTheMask to the multiple personae used in her spy work, and fears that she is becoming [[HeWhoFightsMonsters just as bad, if not worse than the people she fights against]].
** TCB!Spike. [[spoiler: Once he and Rarity realized what was happening to the other Elements of Harmony, they tried to escape, but failed. Not only were his friends and the mare he loved corrupted by darkness into becoming the Queen's tools of evil, but he himself was imprisoned and [[ColdBloodedTorture horribly tortured]] for going against Celestia. When Trixie finds him, he's pretty much a shell of his former self]].
** King Spykoran. [[spoiler: In order to ensure the Bag of Tirek would never be used again, he was forced to annihilate all of Dream Valley. Let that sink in. He was [[ShootTheDog forced to kill everyone he knew and loved plus their entire families]], all to prevent the bag from ever harming anyone else again (and in at least one universe, [[ShootTheShaggyDog that didn't work]])]]. His guilt is so massive that he can't even take his hundred-year nap [[OutDamnedSpot because he's still haunted by what he did]], even though he maintains [[IDidWhatIHadToDo he did what he had to do]].
** Shockingly, "[[WhamEpisode For Whom the Bell Tolls]]" reveals that [[spoiler: the TCB!Mane Six are this. TCB!Twilight was initially against the plans for ponification, which provoked the Queen to horribly MindRape and [[AndIMustScream imprison her within her own body]], while a dark personality was implanted to take over it. All she could do was helplessly watch as her friends were led to suffer the same fate and the homunculi using their bodies to commit MoralEventHorizon grade acts against the humans (Twilight in particular was ForcedToWatch as the thing inhabiting her body ''killed nearly three thousand people'' to perfect the ponification potion). When Luna [[JourneyToTheCenterOfTheMind explores her mind to get some information]], TCB!Twilight desperately begs Luna to kill her and the other Bearers. A special mention also goes to TCB!Rarity, who was the last one to be corrupted; she realized what was happening to her friends and tried to escape with Spike's help, but failed]].
** Rio/Nepenthe. [[TraumaCongaLine Oh, lordy...]] Rio. It counts as almost a mercy that [[DarkAndTroubledPast her past]] hasn't been expanded upon and most of it is barely explained, but from what little she reveals, she was [[IHaveNoSon disowned by her family]], [[WidowWoman lost her husband]], [[RapeAsBackstory got raped by someone she considered a friend]] and [[ChildByRape got pregnant]] as a result (though she did love her child), and then [[AdultFear her son went missing]]. After all that, it's not too hard to imagine why she thought the Solar Empire was a perfect paradise where she could live a happy life... and then it got worse for her, when she does get ponified and [[BeCarefulWhatYouWishFor learns the hard way]] that the Solar Empire doesn't care about her as she gets {{Mind Rape}}d into becoming everything she hated.
** Canon!Catseye, [[JerkassWoobie believe it]] [[TheScrappy or not]]. She may seem like another PoliticallyIncorrectVillain who is endangering all Equestria stands for by listening to The Queen in her dreams. But between her [[HalfBreedDiscrimination heritage]] and her [[BoomerangBigot attitude towards non-ponies and pony hybrids]], it's not hard to imagine how miserable and self-loathing she is and how pliable that made her towards The Queen's influence. The worst part is there are hints in her narration that she has her doubts about this, but both the Queen and her own followers keep shooting down any second guessing in someone who's ripe for a HeelRealization.

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*** * The TCB!Cutie Mark Crusaders; Scootaloo [[spoiler: suffers from a disease which causes the tissues of her wings to become necrotic, eventually requiring her to have them amputated. Her [[HopeSpot having]] [[AllJustADream an elaborate dream]] of gaining use of them only twists the knife further, so to speak]]. Meanwhile, Sweetie Belle and Applebloom could only helplessly watch as their beloved sisters became hateful nutjobs hellbent on destroying all of humanity.
*** * TCB!Trixie (aka the Blue Spy) is a PHL operative who seems to be BecomingTheMask to the multiple personae used in her spy work, and fears that she is becoming [[HeWhoFightsMonsters just as bad, if not worse than the people she fights against]].
** * TCB!Spike. [[spoiler: Once he and Rarity realized what was happening to the other Elements of Harmony, they tried to escape, but failed. Not only were his friends and the mare he loved corrupted by darkness into becoming the Queen's tools of evil, but he himself was imprisoned and [[ColdBloodedTorture horribly tortured]] for going against Celestia. When Trixie finds him, he's pretty much a shell of his former self]].
** * King Spykoran. [[spoiler: In order to ensure the Bag of Tirek would never be used again, he was forced to annihilate all of Dream Valley. Let that sink in. He was [[ShootTheDog forced to kill everyone he knew and loved plus their entire families]], all to prevent the bag from ever harming anyone else again (and in at least one universe, [[ShootTheShaggyDog that didn't work]])]]. His guilt is so massive that he can't even take his hundred-year nap [[OutDamnedSpot because he's still haunted by what he did]], even though he maintains [[IDidWhatIHadToDo he did what he had to do]].
** * Shockingly, "[[WhamEpisode For Whom the Bell Tolls]]" reveals that [[spoiler: the TCB!Mane Six are this. TCB!Twilight was initially against the plans for ponification, which provoked the Queen to horribly MindRape and [[AndIMustScream imprison her within her own body]], while a dark personality was implanted to take over it. All she could do was helplessly watch as her friends were led to suffer the same fate and the homunculi using their bodies to commit MoralEventHorizon grade acts against the humans (Twilight in particular was ForcedToWatch as the thing inhabiting her body ''killed nearly three thousand people'' to perfect the ponification potion). When Luna [[JourneyToTheCenterOfTheMind explores her mind to get some information]], TCB!Twilight desperately begs Luna to kill her and the other Bearers. A special mention also goes to TCB!Rarity, who was the last one to be corrupted; she realized what was happening to her friends and tried to escape with Spike's help, but failed]].
** * Rio/Nepenthe. [[TraumaCongaLine Oh, lordy...]] Rio. It counts as almost a mercy that [[DarkAndTroubledPast her past]] hasn't been expanded upon and most of it is barely explained, but from what little she reveals, she was [[IHaveNoSon disowned by her family]], [[WidowWoman lost her husband]], [[RapeAsBackstory got raped by someone she considered a friend]] and [[ChildByRape got pregnant]] as a result (though she did love her child), and then [[AdultFear her son went missing]]. After all that, it's not too hard to imagine why she thought the Solar Empire was a perfect paradise where she could live a happy life... and then it got worse for her, when she does get ponified and [[BeCarefulWhatYouWishFor learns the hard way]] that the Solar Empire doesn't care about her as she gets {{Mind Rape}}d into becoming everything she hated.
** * Canon!Catseye, [[JerkassWoobie believe it]] [[TheScrappy or not]]. She may seem like another PoliticallyIncorrectVillain who is endangering all Equestria stands for by listening to The Queen the Solar Tyrant in her dreams. But between her [[HalfBreedDiscrimination heritage]] and her [[BoomerangBigot attitude towards non-ponies and pony hybrids]], it's not hard to imagine how miserable and self-loathing she is and how pliable that made her towards The Queen's Queen Celestia's influence. The worst part is there are hints in her narration that she has her doubts about this, but both the Queen and her own followers keep shooting down any second guessing in someone who's ripe for a HeelRealization.
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* TheWoobie: It would take far less time to list the characters that don't qualify. But since we're committed to this, and literally every heroic character ([[spoiler: and even a few antagonists]]) qualifies as an example, we might as well:
** Let us start with our hero, Marcus. The war has turned him into a [[ShellShockedVeteran nearly empty]] and [[SociopathicSoldier borderline psychotic]] shell of a man. Even before the invasion, he lost his father at a young age, then witnessed the worst of mankind during his time as a soldier in the Middle East. When the story begins, Marcus is the last member of his family still alive, and he's done some pretty brutal things fighting to stop the Solar Empire.
** The argument could be made for every surviving human. By the year 2023, three years into the war, millions of people are refugees with literally no homeland to return to, since the Barrier annihilates any man-made object in its way (not even leaving dust behind). Even those who haven't lost their home yet are just counting down until the Barrier reaches their front lawn. Try living for all that time, attempting to go about your daily lives, while knowing that your world is dying inch by inch.
*** Hyong-Jin from the Asia Side-Story. As if being a citizen of North Korea wasn't hard enough, his father died when he was young, he discovers his mother and little sister (whom he vowed to watch over after his father's death) were ponified, and ''then'' he finds out that his home country got nuked into oblivion.
*** Viktor Kraber certainly qualifies, despite being a highly [[AxCrazy trigger-happy]] BloodKnight... or possibly ''because'' he is when you consider why. He accidentally got his girlfriend pregnant while they were still in college, but he stepped up to the plate, worked hard to get his medical degree so he could support his family, ''and succeeded'', and he went on to live a happy life for a while... only to promptly [[AdultFear lose them all]] to TCB!Pinkie Pie and the PER, an event he blames himself for because he hired Pinkie to plan out his kids' birthday party. It's very clear that between losing his whole family, his time in the HLF and eventual recruitment into the Bundeswehr, the war did not have a good effect on his general state of mind. He's frequently mentioned as being an alcoholic, and that's not even touching on his guilt for the (implicitly) horrifying things he did in the HLF. According to Luna, his [[ShellShockedVeteran nightmares hang over him, even when he's awake]]. Not to mention, [[spoiler: since the only way to free the Newfoals from the mind control is to MercyKill them, Kraber's going to lose his family all over again]].
*** Tess, who's lost literally everything to Equestria, has killed civilians at least twice, and accidentally [[spoiler: left her family to die]]. Though considering her personality and less than kind treatment towards the ponies, she could be closer to a JerkassWoobie.
*** Stephan more than qualifies during "Sons of Legacies, Part 2". He might [[OnlySaneMan have it together a bit better]] than Marcus, but it's clear he's utterly destroyed by the destruction of his home country and he's had to do some brutal things to survive the war (including being forced to MercyKill a bunch of ponified children).
** The same goes for the ponies who fled Equestria, many of whom are fighting the imperialist nightmare their once beloved home country has turned into. Making things worse is that even though most of them were just as taken by surprise as mankind when Queen Celestia declared war on Earth, there are enough humans who hate all ponies indiscriminately for their lives to be continuously endangered by the very people they are trying to help.
*** TCB!Lyra surely counts, though it doesn't get as much focus as [[BigGood the more inspirational]] [[MessianicArchetype side of]] [[RebelLeader her character]]. This is a mare who got to live her dream of meeting humans, and thanks to being in Celestia's good graces, she got to become an ambassador to humanity. But then she realized just what the Queen was planning, feeling utterly betrayed, and it was clear that denouncing her once beloved home country was not easy for her. And aside from the burdens of leading a planet-wide rebellion against her own homeland, facing fear and mistrust from the same humans she was trying to protect, her own girlfriend (initially) decrying her cause as little more than paranoia and a waste of time, and getting sentenced to a horrible death (while her girlfriend was forced to watch, no less), there's also [[spoiler: the fact that if she found out what the Bag of Tirek did to Celestia, Lyra would have had to live with the guilt of knowing that what happened was all her fault, without ever being able to tell anyone]]. BeingGoodSucks, indeed.
*** TCB!Bon-Bon, [[DrivenToMadness whose mind was broken]] [[WidowWoman after the Queen executed Lyra]]. Nowadays she's just a babbling mess diagnosed with chronological lobular desync disorder (think of it as a stroke [[DisSimile which lets you view both the present and any point of history at the same time]], [[MadOracle with everything that implies]]).
---> Sometimes she babbled about events that had yet to happen, or screamingly re-experienced past horrors, not just from her own life, but of Eldritch nightmares from eons before Equestria's founding.
*** The TCB!Princesses; Cadance was betrayed by her true love thanks to him being brainwashed into an unshakable fanatic for the Queen's cause – in Marcus's words, TCB!Shining Armor "attempted to subdue [Cadance] and drag her to the Tyrant with a smile." And Luna was so sickened b what her sister was doing that she defied Celestia once more, but ended up getting turned to stone for her trouble.
*** The TCB!Cutie Mark Crusaders; Scootaloo [[spoiler: suffers from a disease which causes the tissues of her wings to become necrotic, eventually requiring her to have them amputated. Her [[HopeSpot having]] [[AllJustADream an elaborate dream]] of gaining use of them only twists the knife further, so to speak]]. Meanwhile, Sweetie Belle and Applebloom could only helplessly watch as their beloved sisters became hateful nutjobs hellbent on destroying all of humanity.
*** TCB!Trixie (aka the Blue Spy) is a PHL operative who seems to be BecomingTheMask to the multiple personae used in her spy work, and fears that she is becoming [[HeWhoFightsMonsters just as bad, if not worse than the people she fights against]].
** TCB!Spike. [[spoiler: Once he and Rarity realized what was happening to the other Elements of Harmony, they tried to escape, but failed. Not only were his friends and the mare he loved corrupted by darkness into becoming the Queen's tools of evil, but he himself was imprisoned and [[ColdBloodedTorture horribly tortured]] for going against Celestia. When Trixie finds him, he's pretty much a shell of his former self]].
** King Spykoran. [[spoiler: In order to ensure the Bag of Tirek would never be used again, he was forced to annihilate all of Dream Valley. Let that sink in. He was [[ShootTheDog forced to kill everyone he knew and loved plus their entire families]], all to prevent the bag from ever harming anyone else again (and in at least one universe, [[ShootTheShaggyDog that didn't work]])]]. His guilt is so massive that he can't even take his hundred-year nap [[OutDamnedSpot because he's still haunted by what he did]], even though he maintains [[IDidWhatIHadToDo he did what he had to do]].
** Shockingly, "[[WhamEpisode For Whom the Bell Tolls]]" reveals that [[spoiler: the TCB!Mane Six are this. TCB!Twilight was initially against the plans for ponification, which provoked the Queen to horribly MindRape and [[AndIMustScream imprison her within her own body]], while a dark personality was implanted to take over it. All she could do was helplessly watch as her friends were led to suffer the same fate and the homunculi using their bodies to commit MoralEventHorizon grade acts against the humans (Twilight in particular was ForcedToWatch as the thing inhabiting her body ''killed nearly three thousand people'' to perfect the ponification potion). When Luna [[JourneyToTheCenterOfTheMind explores her mind to get some information]], TCB!Twilight desperately begs Luna to kill her and the other Bearers. A special mention also goes to TCB!Rarity, who was the last one to be corrupted; she realized what was happening to her friends and tried to escape with Spike's help, but failed]].
** Rio/Nepenthe. [[TraumaCongaLine Oh, lordy...]] Rio. It counts as almost a mercy that [[DarkAndTroubledPast her past]] hasn't been expanded upon and most of it is barely explained, but from what little she reveals, she was [[IHaveNoSon disowned by her family]], [[WidowWoman lost her husband]], [[RapeAsBackstory got raped by someone she considered a friend]] and [[ChildByRape got pregnant]] as a result (though she did love her child), and then [[AdultFear her son went missing]]. After all that, it's not too hard to imagine why she thought the Solar Empire was a perfect paradise where she could live a happy life... and then it got worse for her, when she does get ponified and [[BeCarefulWhatYouWishFor learns the hard way]] that the Solar Empire doesn't care about her as she gets {{Mind Rape}}d into becoming everything she hated.
** Canon!Catseye, [[JerkassWoobie believe it]] [[TheScrappy or not]]. She may seem like another PoliticallyIncorrectVillain who is endangering all Equestria stands for by listening to The Queen in her dreams. But between her [[HalfBreedDiscrimination heritage]] and her [[BoomerangBigot attitude towards non-ponies and pony hybrids]], it's not hard to imagine how miserable and self-loathing she is and how pliable that made her towards The Queen's influence. The worst part is there are hints in her narration that she has her doubts about this, but both the Queen and her own followers keep shooting down any second guessing in someone who's ripe for a HeelRealization.

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