History WhyFandomCantHaveNiceThings / WebOriginal

* ''WebAnimation/DeathBattle'' has made it clear that there will no more be match-ups between characters from ''Anime/DragonBallZ'' and ''Franchise/{{Superman}}'' after the divisive Goku vs. Superman battles caused a lot of {{Flame War}}s from the results. That doesn't mean they won't use those franchises again - indeed, ComicBook/LexLuthor battled ComicBook/IronMan, and Hercule battled [[Franchise/StreetFighter Dan Hibiki]] after the two Goku vs. Superman fights were posted. You just won't see something like, say, Gohan vs. Superboy.

* Voice actress Wubcake was quite prominent in the fandom for ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyEquestriaGirls'' and ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'', including being widely thought of as ''the'' fan voice for Sunset Shimmer. In 2020, Wubcake announced that she would no longer be making MLP-related content, choosing to focus on ''Franchise/{{Danganronpa}}'' content instead. [[https://youtu.be/aSbB498SnCQ?t=1234 In a livestream]], Wubcake cited general burnout with [[{{Typecasting}} being asked to do the same kinds of lines over and over in brony videos]], as well as meeting very toxic people in the brony fandom.
** She also cited a specific incident in which IDW MLP comic creator Jenn Blake raised tens of thousands of dollars on [=GoFundMe=] for her cancer treatment, then deleted all of her social media accounts shortly aftwards (per Blake's close friends, [[https://mlpfanart.fandom.com/wiki/Wubcake?commentId=4400000000000060743 this was due to the former comic creator's increasing irrationality resulting from the progression of her end-stage brain cancer]]). Wubcake posted in a now-deleted Twitter thread accusing Blake of scamming fans and not adequately expressing gratitude. When a fan backlash resulted from her accusation, she then accused Peter New, a voice actor from ''Friendship is Magic'' and friend of Jenn Blake, of [[QuoteMine quote mining]] her out of context and sending his Twitter followers to harass her. However, [[https://mlpfanart.fandom.com/wiki/Wubcake?commentId=4400000000000060743 the deleted Twitter thread was later recovered]] and showed that she had not only been quoted accurately, but had repeated her scam accusation even after the social-media disappearance had been explained by Blake's close friends. This led to further backlash against Wubcake, who then decided to bolt from the ''MLP'' fandom for a while.

** Circa 2014, the three creators gave their blessing for fans to do their own versions of the Seven Trials of HABIT (with all three making personal cameos in fan-made games). Some people abused the privilege, and began using the cast members' real names[[note]]the main characters [[TheDanza share the first names of their actors]], but are not given last names in the series (aside from Vincent's stage name, "Everyman")[[/note]] and incorporating details from their personal lives into fan-made content, with some going as far as to "borrow" and edit family photos from their social media accounts. This came to a head in 2021 when one underage fan (who claimed to have Dissociative Identity Disorder) began using Evan Jennings's identity online, claiming that his EMH character was one of their [[SplitPersonality alters]]; said individual's accounts began to turn up in Evan's background checks, complete with posts suicide baiting other fans of the series and [[UnfortunateImplications talking to and about their (also underage) partner]]. When Evan and his girlfriend asked the person to stop, they were [[InsaneTrollLogic accused of being ableist]], and a cancellation campaign was formed against them. Finally, Evan held a Twitter poll and had fans choose a last name for his character in order to differentiate himself from his onscreen persona (with "Evan Myers" winning out).

** Circa 2014, the three creators gave their blessing for fans to do their own versions of the Seven Trials of HABIT (with all three making personal cameos in fan-made games). Some people abused the privilege, and began using the cast members' real names[[note]]the main characters [[TheDanza share the first names of their actors]], but are not given last names in the series (aside from Vincent's stage name, "Everyman")[[/note]] and incorporating details from their personal lives into fan-made content, with some going as far as to "borrow" and edit family photos from their social media accounts. This came to a head in 2021, when one underage fan (who claimed to have Dissociative Identity Disorder) began using Evan Jennings's identity online, claiming that his EMH character was one of their [[SplitPersonality alters]]; said individual's accounts began to turn up in Evan's background checks, complete with [[UnfortunateImplications posts talking to and about their (also underage) partner]]. When Evan and his girlfriend asked the person to stop, they were [[InsaneTrollLogic accused of being ableist]], and a cancellation campaign was formed against them. Finally, Evan held a Twitter poll and had fans choose a last name for his character in order to differentiate himself from his onscreen persona (with "Evan Myers" winning out).

** All three of the creators have also endured harassment from enamored fans. Vinnie quit posting on social media entirely in 2019 after a female fan stalked him across his accounts, sending him suggestive photos and claiming that the two of them were "soul mates" (and, after Vinnie ignored her advances, that he was abusing her). He has since made it known that he no longer has any desire to interact with fans, stating that fans treat content creators as "disposable entertainment" at best, and that he will only be using social media for career-related purposes in the future.

** Elsagate ended up causing this for Website/YouTube, although this has more to do with bringing the site into compliance with existing laws forbidding ads targeted at young children than it does with the fandom of the site. For those unaware of what Elsagate is, it was a major controversy surrounding channels that were making inappropriate videos targeted at kids that featured characters from children's media (most prominently Franchise/{{Spiderman}} and Elsa from ''[[WesternAnimation/Frozen2013 Frozen]]'', hence the name). [=YouTube=] largely ignored it until news outlets reported what was happening, at which point [=YouTube=] had to do something to salvage their reputation. However, the removal of "Elsagate" started a chain reaction that caused [=YouTube=] to implement a rating system, which consists of "kid-friendly" and "not kid-friendly" - and only not-kid-friendly content is eligible for monetization. In essence, [=YouTube=] started operating on the concept of RatedMForMoney taken to its logical extreme thanks to what was once a series of prank videos snowballing into a major scandal.

* Music database and community website [=RateYourMusic=] has "comment boxes" on release pages, meant as a place to post statements that are related to the music but not qualitative enough for a review. However, in practice a number of them end up host to intensely volatile atmospheres, for reasons ranging from serious (discussion on artists who have committed [[RoleEndingMisdemeanor Role-Ending Misdemeanors]]) to petty (arguments over whether a release/artist is "actually good" or not), some releases reaching a point where their comment boxes are disabled indefinitely. A list documenting them (and a few whose comment boxes have been restored) can be found [[https://rateyourmusic.com/list/Xaman_/albums-where-the-rym-comment-box-has-been-euthanized/ here]].

** Circa 2014, the three creators gave their blessing for fans to do their own versions of the Seven Trials of HABIT (with all three making personal cameos in fan-made games). Some people took this as a carte blanche invitation, and began using the cast members' real names[[note]]the main characters [[TheDanza share the first names of their actors]], but are not given last names in the series (aside from Vincent's stage name, "Everyman")[[/note]] and incorporating details from their personal lives into fan-made content, with some going as far as to "borrow" and edit family photos from their social media accounts. This came to a head in 2021, when one underage fan (who claimed to have Dissociative Identity Disorder) began using Evan Jennings's identity online, claiming that his EMH character was one of their [[SplitPersonality alters]]; said individual's accounts began to turn up in Evan's background checks -- complete with [[UnfortunateImplications posts talking to and about their (also underage) partner]]. When Evan and his girlfriend asked the fan to stop, they were [[InsaneTrollLogic accused of being ableist]] and had a cancellation campaign started started against the two of them. Finally, Evan held a Twitter poll and had fans choose a last name for his character in order to differentiate himself from his onscreen persona (with "Evan Myers" winning out).

* When WebVideo/JennyNicholson reviewed a published SoBadItsGood ''WebOriginal/JeffTheKiller'' fanfiction called ''Insanity'', she [[SequelHook heavily implied at the end that she'd review its sequel next]]. However, some of Jenny's fans tracked down the socials of the fanfic's author and harassed her with overly negative reviews and judgments, prompting the author to apologize and offer to delist her stories from the Internet. Due to this, Jenny decided to not review the sequel and chastised fans for their behavior. Since then, Jenny has tried to make it clear that she does not want her fans to chase down the creators of work she reviews.

** In September of 2020, Coco Kiryu and Haato Akai were placed on suspension as a result of mentioning Taiwan as an independent nation while discussing viewer metrics in a live stream. Not in support of Taiwan, not in any way that disparaged China, simply acknowledging Taiwan's existence as an independent nation - which is a hot-button issue in the Chinese government. The main purpose of the suspension was not to punish Coco and Haato, but to protect them from Chinese nationalists that would harass them. After three weeks, their suspension ended, and they apologized in their following streams, but a large number of Chinese viewers continued to call for their termination. Unwilling to fire one of their biggest stars, and with the brand becoming tarnished in China, hololive ultimately ceased all business in China, which included the closure of their fledgling Chinese branch. As a sort of mercy, the streamers from the Chinese branch of hololive were allowed to keep almost all of their stream donations until their departure.

** In August 2022, the company released ''Holostars EN'', the first set of male performers who primarily streamed in English. As a way for the new boys to build up a fanbase, they collabed with various female ''Hololive'' English stars, including [[Characters/HololiveOuroKroniiCh Ouro Kronii]]. This caused several of Kronii's more toxic shipper fans to attack the members of ''Holostars EN'' that she collabed with. Kronii eventually [[https://youtu.be/g_v3T1DWnQU addressed the drama]], telling these toxic fans to knock it off unless they wanted her to stop collabing with everyone (much less any dudes). Kronii denied she had any romantic attraction to any of the ''Holostars'' members, and added that even if she did, she wouldn't engage in OfficeRomance with anybody because it would be unprofessional and would risk damaging her reputation. She ended with an appeal to not "act as if you're [[VideoGame/EldenRing maidenless]]" to her fanbase.

* The creators of ''WebVideo/EverymanHYBRID'' were formerly very accommodating with fans and loved interacting with them on social media and in livestreams. Following the 2018 end of the series, however, this is no longer the case, due to some extremely unpleasant interactions with fans:
** Circa 2014, the three creators gave their blessing for fans to do their own versions of the Seven Trials of HABIT (with all three making personal cameos in some of the games). Some people took this as a carte blanche invitation, and began using the cast members' real names[[note]]the main characters [[TheDanza share the first names of their actors]], but are not given last names in the series (aside from Vincent's stage name, "Everyman")[[/note]] and incorporating details from their personal lives into fan-made content, with some going as far as to "borrow" and edit family photos from their social media accounts. This came to a head in 2021, when one underage fan (who claimed to have Dissociative Identity Disorder) began using Evan Jennings's identity online, claiming that his EMH character was one of their [[SplitPersonality alters]]; said individual's accounts began to turn up in background checks -- complete with [[UnfortunateImplications posts talking to and about their (also underage) partner]]. When Evan and his girlfriend asked the fan to stop, they were [[InsaneTrollLogic accused of being ableist]], and the fan rallied their friends to start a harassment campaign against the two of them. Finally, Evan held a Twitter poll and had fans choose a last name for his character in order to differentiate himself from his onscreen persona (with "Evan Myers" winning out).

** All three of the creators have also endured harassment from enamored fans. Vinnie quit posting on social media entirely in 2019, after a female fan stalked him across his social media accounts, sending him suggestive photos and claiming that the two of them were "soul mates" (and, after Vinnie ignored her, that he was abusing her). He has since made it known that he no longer has any desire to interact with fans, stating that fans treat content creators as "disposable entertainment" at best, and that he will only be using social media for career-related purposes in the future.

* ''WebOriginal/WellBeRightBack'': After many people began spamming [=TapeWorm=] with requests for anomaly videos, she [[https://twitter.com/tape_w0rm/status/1658224558975926278?s=46&t=f-GLQ5-uoF5V2SjmrCco_A instituted a blacklist]] for all future video requests.

** The site made dislikes only visible to the videos' creators in late 2021 in order to prevent dislike-bombing and embarrassing the creators, putting an end to "ratioing" and "missing the like button" jokes.

* John Darko, an audiophile [=YouTuber=] has always been cynical towards the audiophile community. Starting around 2019, he started getting a lot of hateful and toxic comments regarding his audio set up, paid sponsorships and his positive remarks towards bad audio products. The toxicity reached a point that in November 2020, he disabled comments on his [=YouTube=] channel and his Instagram. In 2021, he reinstated the comments on most of his videos, though on “approval only” mode. However, the comments on his Instagram, his [=YouTube=] community page and all (pre-May 2018) videos have remained disabled.

* Zaranyzerak, a movie and comic book collecting [=YouTuber=] and gamer was also known for his rant videos on various fandoms. However, in April 2018, he posted a rant video on ''The Last Jedi'' where he liked the movie and defended it. The video was met with instant backlash as well as attacks and harassment from trolls and ''Star Wars'' fans for his opinion on the movie. Before long, it started to spill into the comments sections of all his the videos he posted after his ''TLJ'' and even his older videos as well. The harassment and troll attacks got so bad that it even led to him being doxxed and they even started attacking at his daughter. This lasted for nearly nine months, until January 2019 when he finally had enough of it and disabled both comments and ratings on all his videos. As of of 2022, he has since reinstated the comments on all of his videos as well as ratings. However, he has since privated his video on ''TLJ'' and has refused to make the video available again. The backlash and harassment he endured for his video on ''TLJ'' is the main reason why he semi-retired from [=YouTube=] to instead mostly focus on his livestreams on Twitch. Currently the majority of new content he posts to his [=YouTube=] channel are livestream highights from his Twitch streams, which has resulted in his channel going into partal [[NetworkDecay Network Decay]]. While he occasionally still does movie collection videos, he has refused to go back and make nerd rage videos again, out of fear of creating and facing more backlash and harassment from other fandoms.

** LetsPlay/{{Markiplier}} started a Let's Play series for the game. However, after two videos, he abruptly stopped the series after the fandom commented on the videos and expressed their dislike at both his voices for the characters and his playstyle not being how ''they'' wanted him to play, dropping spoilers along the way. When Mark finally returned to it via Twitch, he made it a point to ignore the chat the entire time so he didn't get spoiled or harassed again.

** In late 2021, Connor of the ''Trash Taste'' podcast (also known as [=CDawgVA=]) argued in an interview with Ironmouse that becoming a member of hololive was a recipe for quick success because of the built-in fanbase for the brand itself rather than the merits of the talent. In early 2022, [[Characters/HololiveMoriCalliopeCh Mori Calliope]] was given a superchat in a members-only stream that argued she shouldn't collaborate with Connor anymore because of his previous comments, which Calliope thought was ridiculous. However, this one superchat ended up starting a firestorm of drama around both Connor and Calliope when a few toxic members of Calliope's fanbase, aka "deadbeats", began harassing Connor. This lead to a week-long break from streaming for Calliope, with clarification that she was waiting for the heat from the drama to die down before returning.

* The creators of ''WebVideo/EverymanHYBRID'' were formerly very accommodating with fans and loved interacting with them on social media and in livestreams. Following the end of the series, however, this is no longer the case, due to some extremely unpleasant incidents:
** Circa 2014, the three creators gave their blessing for fans to do their own versions of the Seven Trials of HABIT (with all three making personal cameos in some of the games). Some people took this as a carte blanche invitation, and began using the cast members' real names[[note]]the main characters [[TheDanza share the first names of their actors]], but are not given last names in the series (aside from Vincent's stage name, "Everyman")[[/note]] and incorporating details from their personal lives into fan-made content -- with some people going as far as to "borrow" and edit family photos from their social media accounts. This came to a head in 2021, when one underage fan (who allegedly Dissociative Identity Disorder) began using Evan Jennings's full name and identity online, claiming that his EMH character was one of their [[SplitPersonality alters]]. Said individual's accounts began to turn up in Evan's background checks -- complete with posts talking to and about their (also underage) partner. When Evan and his girlfriend asked the fan to stop, he [[InsaneTrollLogic accused them of being ableist]], and rallied his friends to harass the two of them. Finally, Evan held a Twitter poll and had fans choose a last name for his character in order to differentiate between himself and his onscreen persona (with "Evan Myers" winning out).

* Several characters from ''WebAnimation/HelluvaBoss'' have [[CharacterBlog Instagram accounts, where official artwork is uploaded and presented as posts the characters have made in-universe]]. This included Octavia, Stolas' teenage daughter. Unfortunately, Octavia's account was quickly bombarded with [[RuleThirtyFour porn of her]], some of which featured Octavia ''[[ParentalIncest and her father]]''. While [[Creator/VivienneMedrano the creator of the series]] [[RuleThirtyFourCreatorReactions expected porn of the characters to be created]], she wasn't expecting fans to be so mean-spirited and {{Squick}}y about posting it, causing [[https://www.reddit.com/r/HelluvaBoss/comments/kz9fd0/the_via_situation/ the account to be archived in January 2021]], with out-of-character posts on both Octavia and Stolas' accounts explaining that the people who ran the accounts were incredibly uncomfortable with how the fandom was behaving. This also caused at least [[WebAnimation/HazbinHotel Niffty and Velvet's]] accounts to be archived as well.

* ''WebAnimation/SuperMarioBrosZ'' creator Alvin Earthworm was constantly being asked on his social media when the next episode of the series was coming out. The show was something he does as a hobby and he, by his own admission, didn't expect it to take off like it did.

** Circa 2014, the three creators gave their blessing for fans to do their own versions of the Seven Trials of HABIT (with all three making personal cameos in some of the games). Some people took this as a carte blanche invitation, and began using the cast members' real names[[note]]the main characters [[TheDanza share the first names of their actors]], but are not given last names in the series (aside from Vincent's stage name, "Everyman")[[/note]] and incorporating details from their personal lives into fan-made content -- with some people going as far as to "borrow" and edit family photos from their social media accounts. This came to a head in 2021, when one underage fan (who allegedly Dissociative Identity Disorder) began using Evan Jennings's full name and identity online, claiming that his EMH character was one of their [[SplitPersonality alters]]. Said individual's accounts began to turn up in Evan's background checks, complete with posts talking to and about their (also underage) partner; given that Evan was in nearly thirty at the time, this left [[UnfortunateImplications a]] ''[[UnfortunateImplications very]]'' [[UnfortunateImplications bad impression]]. When Evan and his girlfriend asked him to stop, the fan [[InsaneTrollLogic accused them of being ableist]] and rallied their friends to harass the pair. Finally, Evan held a Twitter poll and had fans choose a last name for his character in order to differentiate between himself and his onscreen persona (with "Evan Myers" winning out).
** Due to the above, both Evan and Jeff will now automatically block and report ''any'' follower on social media who has a profile pic featuring their faces (unless it's FanArt or an image from the series).
** On top of fans stealing their personal information, all three of the creators have also endured harassment from enamored fans. Vinnie quit posting on social media entirely in 2019, after a female fan stalked him across his social media accounts, sending him suggestive photos and claiming that the two of them were "soul mates" (and, after Vinnie ignored her, that he was abusing her). He has since made it known that he no longer has any desire to interact with fans, stating that fans treat content creators as "disposable entertainment" at best, and that he will only be using social media for career-related purposes in the future.

** Circa 2014, the three creators granted permission for fans to do their own versions of the Seven Trials of HABIT (with Jeff and Vinny even making personal cameos in some of the early games). Some people took this as a carte blanche invitation, and began using the cast members' real names[[note]]the main characters [[TheDanza share the first names of their actors]], but are not given last names in the series (aside from Vincent's stage name, "Everyman")[[/note]] and incorporating details from their personal lives into fan-made content -- with some people going as far as to "borrow" and edit family photos from their social media accounts. This came to a head in 2021, when one underage fan (who allegedly Dissociative Identity Disorder) began using Evan Jennings's full name and identity online, claiming that his EMH character was one of their [[SplitPersonality alters]]. Said individual's accounts began to turn up in Evan's background checks, complete with posts talking to and about their (also underage) partner -- which, given that Evan was in his late twenties at the time, gave [[UnfortunateImplications a]] ''[[UnfortunateImplications very]]'' [[UnfortunateImplications bad impression]]. When Evan and his girlfriend asked him to stop, the fan [[InsaneTrollLogic accused them of being ableist]] and rallied their friends to harass the pair. Finally, Evan held a Twitter poll and had fans choose a last name for his character in order to differentiate between himself and his onscreen persona (with "Evan Myers" winning out).
** Due to the above, both Evan and Jeff will now automatically block and report ''any'' follower who has a profile pic featuring their faces (unless it's FanArt or an image from the series).

* Music database and community website [=RateYourMusic=] has "comment boxes" on release pages, meant as a place to post statements that are related to the music but not qualitative enough for a review. However, in practice a number of them end up host to intensely volatile atmospheres for reasons ranging from serious (discussion on artists who have committed [[RoleEndingMisdemeanor Role-Ending Misdemeanors]]) to petty (arguments over whether a release/artist is "actually good" or not), some releases reaching a point where their comment boxes are disabled indefinitely. A list documenting such releases (and a few whose comment boxes have been restored) can be found [[https://rateyourmusic.com/list/Xaman_/albums-where-the-rym-comment-box-has-been-euthanized/ here]].

* John Darko, an audiophile YouTuber has always been cynical towards the audiophile community. Starting around 2019, he started getting a lot of hateful and toxic comments regarding his audio set up, paid sponsorships and his positive remarks towards bad audio products. The toxicity reached a point that in November 2020, he disabled comments on his [=YouTube=] channel and his Instagram. In 2021, he reinstated the comments on most of his videos, though on “approval only” mode. However, the comments on his Instagram, his [=YouTube=] community page and all (pre-May 2018) videos have remained disabled.

** She also cited a specific incident in which IDW MLP comic creator Jenn Blake raised tens of thousands of dollars on [=GoFundMe=] for her cancer treatment, then deleted all of her social media accounts shortly aftwards (per Blake's close friends, [[https://mlpfanart.fandom.com/wiki/Wubcake?commentId=4400000000000060743 this was due to the former comic creator's increasing irrationality resulting from the progression of her end-stage brain cancer]]). Wubcake posted in a now-deleted Twitter thread accusing Blake of scamming fans and not adequately expressing gratitude. When a fan backlash resulted from her accusation, she then accused Peter New, a voice actor from ''Friendship is Magic'' and friend of Jenn Blake, of [[QuoteMine quote mining]] her out of context and sending his Twitter followers to harass her. However, [[https://mlpfanart.fandom.com/wiki/Wubcake?commentId=4400000000000060743 the deleted Twitter thread was later recovered]] and showed that she had not only been quoted accurately, but had repeated her scam accusation even after the social-media disappearance had been explained by Blake's close friends. This led to further backlash against Wubcake, who then decided to bolt from the ''MLP'' fandom and never look back.

* WebVideo/VOMSProject VirtualYoutuber Amano Pikamee announced in March 2023 her retirement from all activities related to her, primarily streaming, as well as [[KeepCirculatingTheTapes privatizing all previous streams on her account]]. While she quietly danced around the reasons why, it's widely accepted to have been the result of an incident she experienced the previous month where upon announcing her intent to stream ''VideoGame/HogwartsLegacy'' -- [[OvershadowedByControversy a game subject to an astonishingly hostile profile for its close association to franchise creator J.K. Rowling and her various controversial political statements]] -- Pikamee was targeted with a massive harassment/smear campaign that endured even after she rescinded her plan to play the game, apologized (acknowledging her interest in the game as having nothing to do with its politics), and went on a month-long hiatus from social media. Some peripheral comments have suggested she had already planned to retire in the near future for unrelated personal reasons, but the toxicity of the situation forced her into leaving far earlier than what anyone had planned.