History WhyFandomCantHaveNiceThings / WebOriginal

* While Creator/MatthewMercer is supremely patient with fans of ''WebVideo/CriticalRole'', and usually restrains himself to politely asking them to tone it down when they [[DudeNotFunny cross a line]] with him or the rest of the cast, after receiving a barrage of criticism from [[DieForOurShip disgruntled shippers]] in the aftermath of Campaign 2 Episode 118, Mercer aired his frustrations on Twitter.[[invoked]]

** In September of 2020, Coco Kiryu and Haato Akai were placed on suspension as a result of mentioning Taiwan as an independent nation while discussing viewer metrics in a live stream. Not in support of Taiwan, not in any way that disparaged China, simply acknowledging its existence as an independent nation - which is a hot-button issue in the Chinese government. The main purpose of the suspension was not to punish Coco and Haato but to protect them from Chinese nationalists that would harass them. After three weeks, their suspension ended, and they apologized in their following streams, but a large number of Chinese viewers continued to call for their termination. Unwilling to fire one of their biggest stars, and with the hololive name becoming completely tarnished in China, hololive ultimately decided to cease all business in China, which included the closure of their fledgling Chinese branch. As a sort of mercy, the streamers from the Chinese branch of hololive were allowed to keep almost all of their stream donations until their departure (a plan to let them keep their characters did not come to fruition, possibly due to some of the Chinese talents harassing Taiwanese members).

* The creators of ''WebVideo/EverymanHYBRID'' were formerly very accommodating with fans, even granting permission for fans to do their own versions of the Seven Trials of HABIT. Some people took this as a carte blanche invitation, and began using the cast members' actual names and incorporating details from their personal lives into fanmade content, with some going as far as to "borrow" and edit family photos from their social media accounts. In 2021, one fan (who claimed to have Dissociative Identity Disorder) begin using Evan Jennings's full name and OOG picture on social media, and [[InsaneTrollLogic accused Evan of being ableist]] when he asked them to stop. Finally, Evan held a Twitter poll and had fans choose a definitive last name for his character, to differentiate between himself and his onscreen persona. ("Evan Myers" won out.)
** All three of the creators ''and'' their girlfriends have had to delete, privatize, or purge the followers from their social media accounts, due to harassment from fans and enamored fangirls. Vinnie quit posting on social media entirely in 2019, after one female fan began stalking him on social media, claiming that the two were in a relationship (and, after he ignored her, that she was being emotionally and physically abused).

* Zaranyzerak, a movie collecting YouTuber disabled both comments and ratings in early 2019 after dealing with months of hateful attacks from trolls regarding his review of ''The Last Jedi'' where he gave the film a positve review. He later reinstated the comments on all his videos less than four months later. However, ratings on his pre-2019 videos have remained disabled.

* A fair number of fanfiction sites (like Fanfiction.net) used to allow ''Series/MysteryScienceTheater3000'' fanfic and even outright {{MST}}ing on other categories. However, thanks to how many {{jerkass}}es used them to attack authors and/or insult their work, these types of fics got banned altogether.
* The website Website/KnowYourMeme has locked submissions to some image galleries after misuse or drama got out of control:
** "Cringeworthy" was locked after people started flooding it with fetish art, most notably a series of pictures depicting a drawing of an inflated WesternAnimation/{{Hercules}}, as well as the fact that the image gallery as a whole was becoming a haven for lots of incoming Flame Wars thanks to people uploading things they themselves found cringeworthy but others did not.[[note]]Especially political subject matter.[[/note]] In response, a forum thread was created in which people posted these images, which was seen as an acceptable compromise since, as a forum, it was clearer that the posts specifically reflected the opinion of the poster, but even ''that'' ended up being shut down when users started posting screenshot of Tumblr blogs expressing views they disagreed with, which led to people contacting/harassing said blogs' owners to let them know they were "cringe".
** The galleries for "Childhood Enhanced" and "Ruined Childhood" followed suit, mostly because "Childhood Enhanced" would mostly be pictures of female characters in more sexual scenes while "Ruined Childhood" mostly contained cover art of child-oriented media considered low-quality.

* This is likely the reason for Website/GoAnimate's removal of the casual [=GoPlus=] subscription plan accounts and retool as a pay-only business website in 2015. Even though the site was initially made with anybody's usage in mind, it was soon viewed as the laughingstock of the internet due to it only being used to make videos where characters from shows like WesternAnimation/{{Caillou}} [[YouAreGrounded get grounded]] and assaulted. However, the Comedy World themes were still accessible through a hidden menu in the main video maker until 2016, when the non-business themes were removed as part of the company's transition from Flash to [=HTML5=]. This led to users to latch on to [=GoAnimate=] for Schools, which still hosted the non-business themes until they were also removed from the service in mid-2016 before it was shut down entirely in 2019. As time went on, the site continually removed features that were left as artifacts on other websites until the only way users could make the videos was by using a web browser extension. Because of all this, coupled with the irrelevance of non-business themes on the website, it's likely that this means the use of the platform for Grounded and other videos for casual purposes will likely and finally come to an end entirely. Fortunately on the bright side, we wouldn't have to worry about the Vyond Shovelware content anymore.

* LetsPlay/RoahmMythril ended up cutting his first ''VideoGame/MakeAGoodMegaManLevelContest'' Let's Play short due to the comments on his videos personally attacking the judges of the contest, especially Blackmore Darkwing. Not only did it greatly upset Roahm, but it also greatly upset [=SnoruntPyro=] (the contest's leader) so much that she asked him to not cover the second game due to this. Fortunately, Roahm eventually recovered from this ordeal and announced that he will be finishing the playthrough; as well as going to do a playthrough of the second game after all.

** In 2018, [=YouTube=] severely tightened its monetization rules so that eligibility is only possible for those with at least 4,000 hours of overall watch time and at least 1,000 subscribers. Though advertising on inappropriate content was not a new problem, there were indications everywhere that the controversies involving Logan Paul had everything to do with it.
** Elsagate ended up causing this for Website/YouTube, although this has more to do with bringing the site into compliance with existing laws forbidding ads targeted at young children than it does with the fandom of the site. Essentially, channels were making inappropriate videos targeted at kids that featured characters from children's media (most prominently Elsa from ''[[WesternAnimation/Frozen2013 Frozen]]'', hence the name). [=YouTube=] largely ignored it until news outlets reported what was happening, at which point [=YouTube=] had to do something to salvage their reputation. However, the removal of "Elsagate" (unfortunately, there's still too many Shovelware Videos invading) started a chain reaction that caused [=YouTube=] to implement a rating system, which consists of "kid-friendly" and "not kid-friendly" (what's even worse is more videos got mistakenly labeled with the former; fortunately they occasionally later got fixed). And only not-kid-friendly content is eligible for monetization. In essence, [=YouTube=] operates on the concept of RatedMForMoney taken to its logical extreme thanks to what was once a series of prank videos snowballing into many divisive changes across the entire website.

* For a short period after retiring from updating his review site, Creator/MarkPrindle would use his Facebook account to briefly post about albums he listened to recently. This changed, partially because some fans would constantly ask him to just un-retire his site since he's still reviewing things. Instead, he started posting a list of music he listened to, with factual information included in parentheses (year of release, genre, and where the artist is from), inviting his followers to discuss ''their'' opinions in comments. However, if someone asks his opinion about an album, he'll give an answer, so it's not a complete loss.

** In late January 2020, Enter deleted his Twitter account due to heavy backlash and criticism towards his Nick-O-Rama series, in addition to excessive hostility towards him in general.

--->'''[=LittleVMills=]''': Alright, so this is my last Persona cover. Not only did people spoil the game for me after I specifically told everyone not to, the constant "NO, YOU'RE WRONG" comments about the one word I misspoke and addressed is exhausting. Both of these comments were pinned at one point, making it impossible to miss while commenting, so it's clear they were done out of spite. I removed the spoiler comments to protect others still playing so you should still be good if you haven't finished the game, like I have. I had 4 more P5 covers planned, by the way, and was planning to announce a small EP this coming week, but I'll be doing other tunes now and from fandoms that are more respectful. To my core fanbase that was hoping for more, sorry to disappoint but all of my energy and excitement for Persona has been basically wiped out due to the comments on this video. Hope it was worth it, guys.
* WebVideo/{{PIEGUYRULZ}} admitted that harassment from fans over him ''not'' making his "Every Episode Of [[WesternAnimation/SpongeBobSquarePants SpongeBob]] Reviewed" series in favor of other content played a significant factor in why he ultimately lost his passion for making said videos and put them along with any other videos explicitly about ''[=SpongeBob SquarePants=]'' on indefinite hold. Not helping was backlash over his to-date final Every Episode of [=SpongeBob=], where Pie Guy gave Season 10 (a season that the ''[=SpongeBob=]'' fanbase largely saw as [[WinBackTheCrowd a return to form]]) [[SoOkayItsAverage a "Meh" rating]] for [[ItsTheSameSoItSucks using too many ideas and concepts from earlier seasons for it to merit a total pass from him]], resulting in [[HePannedItNowHeSucks backlash from fans]] who disagreed. He has since started other "Every Episode Reviewed" series for other shows (such as ''WesternAnimation/AdventureTime''), but Pie Guy is adamant about not continuing the ''Every Episode of [=SpongeBob=] Reviewed'' series.

** Generation 5's Mano Aloe accidentally leaked footage of her character via test stream before her official debut, which resulted in a two-week suspension. However, "anti-fans" then uncovered her personal information and used it to send her harassing phonecalls and [=DMs=] on social media, as well as tracking down her family members and even her then-boyfriend (with their relationship ending specifically because of the harassment he was getting) and harassed ''them'' as well. After the suspension was up, COVER Corporation (who runs hololive) announced that Aloe had decided to permanently retire from the role because she was "not physically or mentally prepared to continue with her activities".
** In September of 2020, Coco Kiryu and Haato Akai were placed on suspension as a result of mentioning Taiwan as an independent nation while discussing viewer metrics in a live stream. Not in support of Taiwan, not in any way that disparaged China, simply acknowledging its existence as an independent nation - which is a hot-button issue in the Chinese government. The main purpose of the suspension was not to punish Coco and Haato, but to protect them from Chinese nationalists that would harass them. After three weeks, their suspension ended, and they apologized in their following streams, but a large number of Chinese viewers continued to call for their termination. Unwilling to fire one of their biggest stars, and with the hololive name becoming completely tarnished in China, hololive ultimately decided to cease all business in China, which included the closure of their fledgling Chinese branch. As a sort of mercy, the streamers from the Chinese branch of hololive were allowed to keep almost all of their stream donations until their departure (a plan to let them keep their characters did not come to fruition, possibly due to some of the Chinese talents harassing Taiwanese members).

* In April 2021, Verizon Media announced that they would be shutting down [[Website/{{Yahoo}} Yahoo Answers]]. The exact reasoning was not stated, but it was presumably due to the reputation it built up over the years, as well as increased amounts of fighting among users since the 2016 American presidential election[[note]]They initially disabled comments to combat this, but it did not work[[/note]].
* Creator/MatthewMercer is supremely patient with fans of ''WebVideo/CriticalRole'', and restrains himself to politely asking them to tone it down when they [[DudeNotFunny cross a line]] with him or the rest of the cast. However, after receiving a barrage of criticism from [[DieForOurShip disgruntled shippers]] in the aftermath of Campaign 2 Episode 118, Mercer aired his frustrations on Twitter.[[invoked]]

* In December 2021, Creator/LindsayEllis announced through her Patreon that she would be retiring from [=YouTube=] and content creating due to a virulent harassment campaign aimed towards her following some poorly worded comments she made about ''WesternAnimation/RayaAndTheLastDragon''.

--->'''[=LittleVMills=]: Alright, so this is my last Persona cover. Not only did people spoil the game for me after I specifically told everyone not to, the constant "NO, YOU'RE WRONG" comments about the one word I misspoke and addressed is exhausting. Both of these comments were pinned at one point, making it impossible to miss while commenting, so it's clear they were done out of spite. I removed the spoiler comments to protect others still playing so you should still be good if you haven't finished the game, like I have. I had 4 more P5 covers planned, by the way, and was planning to announce a small EP this coming week, but I'll be doing other tunes now and from fandoms that are more respectful. To my core fanbase that was hoping for more, sorry to disappoint but all of my energy and excitement for Persona has been basically wiped out due to the comments on this video. Hope it was worth it, guys.

* In January 2018, Creator/GavinFree (a well-known member of Creator/RoosterTeeth and creator of ''WebVideo/TheSlowMoGuys'') and his girlfriend (former Rooster Teeth member Meg Turney) had a crazed fan break into their house armed with a handgun, their intention being killing Gavin, as the fan had an obsession with Meg and hated Gavin for being with her. While Gavin has mostly recovered from the incident, he stopped doing meet and greets with fans at live events, had his RTX schedule privatized, and significantly scaled back his online presence and social media output. Meg didn't recover too well, since her [=YouTube=] channel went silent for six months before she put up a video letting her fans know about what's going on and saying that she was nervous to return to her videos in fear of a copycat.

* The website Website/KnowYourMeme ended up shutting down its "Cringeworthy" image gallery after a series of pictures depicting a drawing of an inflated WesternAnimation/{{Hercules}} kept getting posted and upvoted by fans, as well as the fact that the image gallery as a whole was becoming a haven for lots of incoming Flame Wars thanks to people uploading things they themselves found cringeworthy but others did not.[[note]]Especially political subject matter.[[/note]] The galleries for "Childhood Enhanced" and "Ruined Childhood" followed suit, mostly because "Childhood Enhanced" would mostly be pictures of female characters in more sexual scenes.

* In April 2021, Verizon Media announced that they would be shutting down [[Website/{{Yahoo}} Yahoo Answers]]. The exact reasoning was not stated, but it was presumably due to the reputation it built up over the years, as well as increased amounts of fighting among users since the 2016 election[[note]]They initially disabled comments to combat this, but it did not work[[/note]].

* [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Seigenthaler_Sr._Wikipedia_biography_controversy#Wikimedia_Foundation_reaction One result]] of the [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Seigenthaler_Sr._Wikipedia_biography_controversy Seigenthaler incident]] was [[Wiki/{{Wikipedia}} The Other Wiki]] barred unregistered users (i.e., those with IP addresses only) from starting articles (although they are still free to edit those started by registered users).

* The creators of ''WebVideo/EverymanHYBRID'' were formerly very accommodating with their fans, even granting permission for fans to do their own versions of the Seven Trials of HABIT. Some people took this as a carte blanche invitation, and began using cast members' actual names and incorporating details from their personal lives into fanmade content, with some going as far as to "borrow" and edit family photos from their social media accounts. This came to a head in 2021, when a fan (who claimed to have Dissociative Identity Disorder) begin using Evan Jennings's identity on social media. When Evan asked them to stop, the fan [[InsaneTrollLogic accused him of being ableist]]. Finally, Evan held a Twitter poll and had fans choose a definitive last name for his character, to differentiate between himself and his onscreen persona. ("Evan Myers" won out.)
** All three of the creators ''and'' their girlfriends have had to delete, privatize, or purge the followers from their social media accounts, due to harassment from obsessed fans and enamored fangirls.

* The creators of ''WebVideo/EverymanHYBRID'' were very liberal and accommodating with their fans, even granting permission for fans to do their own versions of the Seven Trials of HABIT. Some took this as a carte blanche invitation, and began using cast members' actual last names and incorporating details from their personal lives into roleplays and [=ARGs=] (with some going as far as to "borrow" and edit family photos from their social media accounts). This came to a head in 2021 when an underage fan begin using Evan Jennings's full name for Tumblr roleplays with their partner, who was also underage. When Evan asked them to stop (fearing that people might believe he was dating a minor), the fans claimed that the roleplays were an outlet for their mental health issues and [[InsaneTrollLogic accused him of being ableist]]. Finally, Evan held a Twitter poll and had fans choose a definitive last name for his character, to differentiate between himself and his onscreen persona. ("Evan Myers" won out.)

* The creators of ''WebVideo/EverymanHYBRID'' were very liberal and accommodating with their fans, even granting permission for fans to do their own versions of the Seven Trials of HABIT. Some took this as a carte blanche invitation, and began using the guys' actual last names and incorporating details from their real lives into roleplays and [=ARGs=] (with some going as far as to "borrow" and edit family photos from their social media accounts). This came to a head in 2021, when an underage fan begin using Evan Jennings's full name for Tumblr [=EMH=] roleplays with their partner, who was also underage. When Evan asked them to stop (fearing that people might believe he was dating a minor), the fans claimed that the roleplays were an outlet for their mental health issues and [[InsaneTrollLogic accused him of being ableist]]. Finally, Evan held a Twitter poll and had fans choose a definitive last name for his character, to differentiate between himself and his onscreen persona. ("Evan Myers" won out.)

** All three of the creators ''and'' their girlfriends have had to close or purge the followers from their social media accounts, due to harassment from enamored fangirls.

* The creators of ''WebVideo/EverymanHYBRID'' were very liberal and accommodating with their fans, even granting permission for fans to do their own versions of the Seven Trials of HABIT. Some took this as a carte blanche invitation, and began using the guys' actual last names and incorporating details from their real lives into roleplays and [=ARGs=], with some going as far as to "borrow" and edit family photos from their social media accounts. This came to a head in 2021, when an underage fan begin using Evan Jennings's real name in Tumblr roleplays with their partner, who was also underage. When Evan asked them to stop (fearing that people might believe he was dating a minor), the fans claimed that the roleplays were an outlet for their mental health issues, and [[InsaneTrollLogic accused him of being ableist]]. Finally, Evan held a Twitter poll and had fans choose a definitive last name for his character, to differentiate between himself and his onscreen persona. ("Evan Myers" won out.)

* Japanese artists, particularly on Pixiv, are staunchly against the posting of their art on other sites; pages like the Japan-based [[http://ofp.yu.to/ Online Fanarts Protection]] exist to inform people about such policies. Although artists are generally fine with people linking to the pages for their art on sites like Twitter and Facebook, they draw the line at their art being uploaded onto sites such as Website/{{Tumblr}}, and will often have a quip on their Pixiv profile warning users against the unauthorized posting of their art on other sites, or at the least telling fans to ask them before reposting. Some artists will go as far as to make their works private or delete them altogether if this problem is bad enough. Reactions to this sort of policy have been mixed; fellow artists generally agree with them, citing that they prefer to control where on the web their works show up (especially considering some users don't bother to give credit to the original artist when posting their images, or worse, [[UsefulNotes/{{Plagiarism}} claim the art as their own]]) while many non-artists, especially Westerners, feel that there's no point complaining about it by virtue of content on the Internet being easily reposted elsewhere and that asking artists for permission to post art on other sites is too much of a hassle, especially when [[LanguageBarrier most artists on Pixiv do not understand English and most Westerners don't know Japanese]]. Many Japanese artists are otherwise critical of the Western and overseas fandom and claim they do not respect their rules and boundaries. So this ties into ValuesDissonance since the Western fanbases interact differently than Japanese fanbases (in addition to language barriers), and they thus have different views on what is considered acceptable behavior.

* ''VideoGame/{{Undertale}}'' was a commonly requested game for many [[LetsPlay Let's Players]] to play. Unfortunately, fans of the game became notorious for spoiling and ruining the game for most [=YouTubers=] who did not do the [[TrueEnding true]] PacifistRun on their first playthrough. Between the level of vitriol such [=YouTubers=] received and the fact that it's a game [[MisaimedFandom best experienced blind]], this frequently caused many Let's Players to have the experience ruined for them and sometimes end their runs of the game prematurely. Here are some of the more infamous cases:

-->Seeing some VERY weird conversation about planned "aging" of characters and the like... which is very much not the case? [[{{Improv}} A randomly rolled encounter combined with unexpected player choices makes for unexpected outcomes.]] I'm seeing some really toxic discussions, based in (surprise) shipping spaces. Don't get me wrong, I'm all for shipping. I think, when engaged with in a HEALTHY way, [it] can be a great way to enjoy media and engage with it. However, the misinterpretation of a story (especially improvised) [[ShipToShipCombat wielded as a weapon against others who disagree with your ship]], or [[DieForOurShip anger against not seeing YOUR ship realized and turning into hate for a fandom and/or it's creators]] is [[HateDumb toxic beyond belief.]] Sometimes the mental gymnastics I read when folks try to justify a perceived personal slight by creators and storytellers who both made no promises to you, or did nothing but continue to follow an organic, honest path with care, makes me not want to create. [[ArtistDisillusionment Scenarios like this continue to push me away from engaging online, for my own mental health.]] I don't want to pull away, but man... sometimes you all try my patience. The conspiracies, the assumptions, the untrue, unwarranted statements... *sigh*

* WebVideo/{{PIEGUYRULZ}} admitted that harassment from fans over him ''not'' making his "Every Episode Of [[WesternAnimation/SpongeBobSquarePants SpongeBob]] Reviewed" and "Bottom of the Bakery" series in favor of other content played a significant factor in why he ultimately lost his passion for making said videos and put them on indefinite hold. Not helping was backlash over his to-date final Every Episode of [=SpongeBob=], where Pie Guy gave Season 10 (a season that the ''[=SpongeBob=]'' fanbase largely saw as [[WinBackTheCrowd a return to form]]) [[SoOkayItsAverage a "Meh" rating]] for [[ItsTheSameSoItSucks using too many ideas and concepts from earlier seasons for it to merit a total pass from him]], resulting in [[HePannedItNowHeSucks backlash from fans]] who disagreed.

* In January 2018, Creator/GavinFree (a well-known member of Creator/RoosterTeeth and creator of ''WebVideo/TheSlowMoGuys'') and his girlfriend (former Rooster Teeth member Meg Turney) had a crazed fan break into their house with a shotgun with the intention of killing Gavin, as the fan had an obsession with Meg and hated Gavin for being with her. While Gavin has mostly recovered from the incident, he stopped doing meet and greets with fans at live events, had his RTX schedule privatized, and significantly scaled back his online presence and social media output. Meg didn't recover too well, since her [=YouTube=] channel went silent for six months before she put up a video letting her fans know about what's going on and saying that she was nervous to return to her videos in fear of a copycat.

* Creator/MattMercer is supremely patient with fans of ''WebVideo/CriticalRole'', and usually restrains himself to politely asking them to tone it down when they [[DudeNotFunny cross a line]] with him or the rest of the cast. However, after receiving a barrage of criticism from [[DieForOurShip disgruntled shippers]] in the aftermath of Campaign 2 Episode 118, Mercer aired his frustrations on Twitter.[[invoked]]

* In April 2021, Verizon Media announced that they would be shutting down [[Website/{{Yahoo}} Yahoo Answers]]. The exact reasoning was not stated, but it was presumably due to the reputation it built up over the years, as well as increased amounts of fighting among users since the 2016 election[[note]]They initially disabled comments to combat this, but it did not work[[/note]].

* Many [=LPers=] have quit playing [[GameMod ROM Hacks]] because they were sick of getting nothing but [[SturgeonsLaw poorly made]] "[[VideoGame/KaizoMarioWorld Kaizo]] [[FollowTheLeader Clones]]" made to [[{{Troll}} make them angry enough to]] RageQuit. Some examples include LetsPlay/ProtonJon, who's at least indifferent to people asking him about it, even though he constantly makes it clear that he won't do ROM Hack [=LPs=] again, and LetsPlay/{{Azureblade49}}, which it's [[CreatorBacklash not a particularly wise thing to ask him about.]]

* Even when {{Creator/JoshScorcher}} begged people not to harass the target of his response videos (such as Creator/LilyOrchard, with whom Josh has a long-standing feud), it still happened anyway. As a result of this, Josh decided to stop doing response videos altogether.

* Many [[GameMod ROM Hack]] [=LPers=] have quit playing ROM Hacks because they were sick and tired of getting nothing but [[SturgeonsLaw poorly made]] "[[VideoGame/KaizoMarioWorld Kaizo]] [[FollowTheLeader Clones]]" specifically made to piss them off on camera for the lulz. Some examples include LetsPlay/ProtonJon, who's at least indifferent to people asking him about it, even though he constantly makes it clear that he won't do ROM Hack [=LPs=] again, and LetsPlay/{{Azureblade49}}, which it's [[CreatorBacklash not a particularly wise thing to ask him about.]]

* In April 2021, Verizon Media announced that they would be shutting down [[Website/{{Yahoo}} Yahoo Answers]]. The exact reasoning was not stated, but it was presumably due to the reputation it built up over the years, as well as increased amounts of fighting among users since the 2016 election[[note]]They initially disabled comments to combat this, but it did not work[[/note]].
* When Emman became [[BewareTheNiceOnes more enraged (even if he is a Nice Man with Autism)]] when he got conflicted to the extreme by a certain IdolSinger Fanboy from Malaysia from Facebook just because Emman used CommonKnowledge that before we can get [[Franchise/{{DOOM}} Doom Slayer]] or other FirstPersonShooter representation in VideoGame/SuperSmashBrosUltimate in which, he is right that Japan has it's very own RatedMForManly Badasses such as [[Manga/FistOfTheNorthStar Kenshiro]] and [[Manga/{{Berserk}} Guts]], to the point that the latter's statements that Japanese people love Idols more than FPS Games doesn't make any sense '''AT ALL''' (however, Emman found out that there are specific FPS games that Japanese people are fans of such as ''VideoGame/{{Overwatch}}'', of all things) and not to mention, he is getting even more enraged when he saw one of his comments that he went too far as not only he blocked him but also, he would minimize one of the discussions about it at times (plus, similar to what [[OldShame Emman admiteddly felt ashamed of doing so back then]], he even said profanes..albeit in a more tamer level along with a surprising thing he has said...the word ''Stupid'' in which, is one of the words for describing how Idols are a better fit in Smash when he called out calling RatedMForManly anime that can be fierce as the Doom series look and feel even more '''''stupid''''' along with some sane FPS Fans who also enjoy such titles too). Fortunately, Emman at least has Francis on his side, as he is like the certain Malaysian person he doesn't really wanna talk about, but much better as on certain occasions, Emman posted Birthday Celebration Group Pictures of any particular Japanese Seiyuu or English Voice Actor/Actress on FB.