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This moment cannot be attributed to What An Idiot. What An Idiot it is when character makes a very stupid, unreasonable or simply illogical action but action Obito can be assessed only in terms of morality but not in terms of logic. Besides, even if he and wanted to do as it is written in "You'd Expect" Madara simply would not let it happen since he was the one who organized all this.


* That same moment has Obito witnessing Rin's death at the hands of Kakashi and the Kiri ninjas.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' That after he kills off all the Kiri ninjas, he took both Rin and Kakashi back to Konoha, give Rin a proper burial then make a vow to her that he will make the ninja world a better place so that no one else will suffer her fate.\\
'''Instead:''' He immediately declares the world to be nothing more than despair all because his crush died and decides to work with Madara to accomplish his incredibly petty dream of seeing Rin again. If ''Naruto'' is a lot more cynical, Obito would have straight up cross the MoralEventHorizon because of atrocious acts.
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'''You'd expect:''' She confides this important information to ''somebody'' on her team in order for the group to formulate an effective plan to trick Toneri, track down his castle, locate the Tenseigan, save Hanabi and the rest of the world.\\

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'''You'd expect:''' She confides this bit of important information to ''somebody'' on her team in order for team, preferably the commanding officer with an IQ of over 200. The group to formulate then forms an effective plan in order to trick Toneri, track down and infiltrate his castle, locate and destroy the Tenseigan, save Hanabi and prevent the rest of the world.world from being destroyed.\\



'''Result:''' Naruto gets seriously wounded and his heart gets broken thinking that Hinata betrayed him and stopped loving him. He then goes into a HeroicBSOD giving up on everything. Meanwhile, Hinata gets caught red-handed by the BigBad trying to destroy his WeaponOfMassDestruction, and [[HypnotizeThePrincess she gets turned into one of his puppets.]] And THEN it turns out that she didn't have the necessary power to destroy the Tenseigan on her own anyway. Really, it was only because of a bit of ContrivedCoincidence that the world didn't get destroyed.

** Toneri's Tenseigan is fully activated. He captures Hinata and [[DamselInDistress put her in a cage]]. The only thing that stands behind him and completion of his plans is Naruto.\\
'''You'd expect:''' He uses the same successful tactic he used previously in the movie. He [[ManaDrain drains Naruto of his chakra]] and kills him while he is completely powerless.\\
'''Instead:''' He goes into a big CockFight with Naruto while he is at full strength, wanting to demonstrate to Hinata how powerful his Tenseigan is.\\

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'''Result:''' Naruto gets seriously wounded and his heart gets broken thinking that Hinata betrayed him and stopped loving him. He then goes into a HeroicBSOD giving up on everything. Meanwhile, Hinata gets caught red-handed by the BigBad trying to destroy his WeaponOfMassDestruction, and [[HypnotizeThePrincess she gets turned into one of his puppets.]] And THEN it turns out that [[DidntThinkThisThrough she didn't have the necessary power to destroy the Tenseigan on her own anyway.anyway]]. Really, it was only because of a bit of ContrivedCoincidence that the world didn't get destroyed.

** Toneri's Tenseigan is fully activated. He captures Hinata and [[DamselInDistress put puts her in a cage]]. The only thing that stands behind between him and completion of his plans is Naruto.\\
'''You'd expect:''' He uses the same successful tactic he ''he used previously in the movie.movie''. He [[ManaDrain drains Naruto of his chakra]] and kills him while he is completely powerless.\\
'''Instead:''' He goes into a big CockFight with Naruto while he is at full strength, [[VillainBall wanting to demonstrate to Hinata how powerful his Tenseigan is.\\]]\\
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* From the [[Anime/TheLastNarutoTheMovie seventh movie.]]
** Hinata gets hit by a vision that reveals to her that she is the only one that can destroy the Tenseigan and subsequently save the world. She doesn't know where the Tenseigan is located but she knows that [[BigBad Toneri]] is going to eventually come to pick her up in order to take her to his castle and marry her because he believes [[EntitledToHaveYou it's his destiny]].\\
'''You'd expect:''' She confides this important information to ''somebody'' on her team in order for the group to formulate an effective plan to trick Toneri, track down his castle, locate the Tenseigan, save Hanabi and the rest of the world.\\
'''Instead:''' She remains completely silent and opts to make a scarf instead until Toneri shows up to pick her up. She goes on to attempt to locate and destroy the Tenseigan alone in a fortress surrounded by enemies.\\
'''Result:''' Naruto gets seriously wounded and his heart gets broken thinking that Hinata betrayed him and stopped loving him. He then goes into a HeroicBSOD giving up on everything. Meanwhile, Hinata gets caught red-handed by the BigBad trying to destroy his WeaponOfMassDestruction, and [[HypnotizeThePrincess she gets turned into one of his puppets.]] And THEN it turns out that she didn't have the necessary power to destroy the Tenseigan on her own anyway. Really, it was only because of a bit of ContrivedCoincidence that the world didn't get destroyed.

** Toneri's Tenseigan is fully activated. He captures Hinata and [[DamselInDistress put her in a cage]]. The only thing that stands behind him and completion of his plans is Naruto.\\
'''You'd expect:''' He uses the same successful tactic he used previously in the movie. He [[ManaDrain drains Naruto of his chakra]] and kills him while he is completely powerless.\\
'''Instead:''' He goes into a big CockFight with Naruto while he is at full strength, wanting to demonstrate to Hinata how powerful his Tenseigan is.\\
'''Result:''' Not too good for him. See the HumiliationConga entry for this movie.

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* [[spoiler: Madara]] thinks he can take out the Bijuu by himself, blind, no eyes, no plan, no back-up, no weapons worth a damn.\\

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* [[spoiler: Madara]] Madara thinks he can take out the Bijuu by himself, blind, no eyes, no plan, no back-up, no weapons worth a damn.\\



* Madara wants to get his Rinnegan eye from Black Zetsu but Obito does not allow to do so.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' Madara try to take away the eye immediately.\\
'''Instead:''' Madara makes a convoluted explanation about Obito's impersonation and trying to convince him to give Rinnegan voluntarily (and this a man who had already betrayed him when become the Ten Tails Jinchuriki and also said him that had never considered him his ally). Also tells him come up and shake him hand.\\
'''Result:''' Obito beats him in the stomach and taking back Yin Kurama and a portion of Shukaku's and Gyuki's chakra (that Naruto is currently missing).

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* Madara wants to get return his Rinnegan eye from Black Zetsu but Obito does not allow to do so.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' Madara will try to take away the eye immediately.\\
'''Instead:''' Madara makes a convoluted explanation about Obito's impersonation and trying to convince him to give Rinnegan voluntarily (and this a it is the man who had already betrayed him when become the Ten Tails Jinchuriki and also that who said him that had never considered him his ally). Also tells and aslo says him come up and shake him hand.\\
'''Result:''' Obito beats him in the stomach plunges his hand through Madara's chest and taking back Yin Kurama and a portion of Shukaku's and Gyuki's chakra (that Naruto is currently missing).



'''You'd Expect:''' While Madara engaged in battles he will restore his strength and teleports to Obito. So Madara can not return his Rinnegan.\\
'''Instead:''' He stands as a vegetable and does nothing.\\

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'''You'd Expect:''' While Madara engaged busy in battles battle he will restore his strength and teleports to Obito. So Madara can not return his Rinnegan.\\
'''Instead:''' [[ForgotAboutHisPowers He stands as a vegetable and does nothing.\\]]\\
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'''You'd Expect:''': That she'd turn on her "pursuers", stop moving, or run in the opposite direction. Anything to buy time for Minato to arrive and try to properly seal the three tails so it couldn't escape. Even if Minato hadn't been able to do anything, it was still a better option than what she did.\\

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'''You'd Expect:''': Expect:''' That she'd turn on her "pursuers", stop moving, or run in the opposite direction. Anything to buy time for Minato to arrive and try to properly seal the three tails so it couldn't escape. Even if Minato hadn't been able to do anything, it was still a better option than what she did.\\

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* Madara overheard conversation Hashirama and Tobirama, which said that Hashirama will elected the first Hokage and that Madara nobody trusts.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' Madara sincerely happy for Hashirama, and he would try to open up and work hard to prove the village that he trustworthy.\\
'''Instead:''' Madara decides that the peace between Uchiha and Senju impossible and the dedicated all his time to studying the Uchiha stone tablet leading to the following one.
* Madara learns that his ancestor broke a taboo and tried to use the power of God to put an end to all wars, yet in the end she only managed to cause more strife and conflict.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' He will learn a lesson from this story and would try help Hashirama create a village of their dreams.\\
'''Instead:''' He try to do the same that his ancestor to put an end to all wars.\\
'''Result:''' He did completed then what he wanted, but he ultimately ends as the biggest loser in the series, not only failing to achieve any of his goals, but only making things worse for himself and everyone else in the process.



'''You'd think''': That she'd turn on her "pursuers", stop moving, or run in the opposite direction. Anything to buy time for Minato to arrive and try to properly seal the three tails so it couldn't escape. Even if Minato hadn't been able to do anything, it was still a better option than what she did.\\

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'''You'd think''': Expect:''': That she'd turn on her "pursuers", stop moving, or run in the opposite direction. Anything to buy time for Minato to arrive and try to properly seal the three tails so it couldn't escape. Even if Minato hadn't been able to do anything, it was still a better option than what she did.\\
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'''Instead:''' Madara makes a convoluted explanation about Obito's impersonation and trying to convince him to give Rinnegan voluntarily (a man who had already betrayed him when become the Ten Tails Jinchuriki). Also tells him come up and shake him hand.\\

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'''Instead:''' Madara makes a convoluted explanation about Obito's impersonation and trying to convince him to give Rinnegan voluntarily (a (and this a man who had already betrayed him when become the Ten Tails Jinchuriki).Jinchuriki and also said him that had never considered him his ally). Also tells him come up and shake him hand.\\
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* Kakashi knows that his eye is the only way how to get in Obito's dimension.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' While Madara engaged in battles he will restore his strength and teleports to Obito. So Madara can not return his Rinnegan.\\
'''Instead:''' He stands as a vegetable and does nothing.\\
'''Result:''' Madara takes him eye and teleports to Obito.
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* Madara knows that Obito was going to resurrect Naruto and the only way to get to him this an eye Kakashi.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' Madara ignores all enemies, will take the eye Kakashi (what he would do later) and prevent Obito resurrect Naruto.\\
'''Instead:''' Madara is spending all their time fighting with Guy and even not think about it.\\
'''Result:''' Guy nearly kills him and Naruto resurrected with new power.
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* Madara wants to get his Rinnegan eye from Black Zetsu but Obito does not allow to do so.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' Madara try to take away the eye immediately.\\
'''Instead:''' Madara makes a convoluted explanation about Obito's impersonation and trying to convince him to give Rinnegan voluntarily (a man who had already betrayed him when become the Ten Tails Jinchuriki). Also tells him come up and shake him hand.\\
'''Result:''' Obito beats him in the stomach and taking back Yin Kurama and a portion of Shukaku's and Gyuki's chakra (that Naruto is currently missing).
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* That same moment has Obito witnessing Rin's death at the hands of Kakashi and the Kiri ninjas.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' That after he kills off all the Kiri ninjas, he took both Rin and Kakashi back to Konoha, give Rin a proper burial then make a vow to her that he will make the ninja world a better place so that no one else will suffer her fate.\\
'''Instead:''' He immediately declares the world to be nothing more than despair all because his crush died and decides to work with Madara to accomplish his incredibly petty dream of seeing Rin again. If ''Naruto'' is a lot more cynical, Obito would have straight up cross the MoralEventHorizon because of atrocious acts.
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* That same moment has Obito witnessing Rin's death at the hands of Kakashi and the Kiri ninjas.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' That after he kills off all the Kiri ninjas, he took both Rin and Kakashi back to Konoha, give Rin a proper burial then make a vow to her that he will make the ninja world a better place so that no one else will suffer her fate.\\
'''Instead:''' He immediately declares the world to be nothing more than despair all because his crush died and decides to work with Madara to accomplish his incredibly petty dream of seeing Rin again. If ''Naruto'' is a lot more cynical, Obito would have straight up cross the MoralEventHorizon because of atrocious acts.
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* Having been allowed to live at Naruto and Minato's request, their moment is interrupted by Madara who uses the Black Zetsu to resurrect himself from the Edo Tensei.\\

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* Having Obito been allowed to live at Naruto and Minato's request, their moment is interrupted by Madara who uses the Black Zetsu to resurrect himself from the Edo Tensei.\\
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* [[spoiler:Obito, the BigBad,]] clearly wants to carry out his [[spoiler:Eye of the Moon]] plan and is currently fighting a one-on-one battle against Kakashi.\\
'''You'd Expect''': That in order to proceed with his plan, [[spoiler:Obito]] would finish Kakashi off as quick as possible by ''any'' means necessary. After all, [[spoiler:Obito]] has Wood Release, the [[StoryBreakerPower Rinnegan]], and a Mangekyo Sharingan which allows him to be intangible.\\
'''Instead''': He chooses to fight in the Kamui Dimension where he is unable to use his intangible ability, meaning he's fighting without the advantage of having a Mangekyo Sharingan. In addition, he uses neither his Wood Release or Rinnegan ''at all''.\\
'''Result:''' Kakashi handily defeats [[spoiler:Obito]] who ends up with a large hole in his chest. After Madara notices [[spoiler:Obito]]'s critical condition, he proceeds to force [[spoiler:Obito]] to use the Rinne Tensei, a jutsu which would kill [[spoiler:Obito]]. [[spoiler:This still works out in the end for Obito, though...]]
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'''Instead''': [[StupidSacrifice She makes Kakashi kill her]], kicking off the entire series.\\

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'''Instead''': [[StupidSacrifice She makes Kakashi kill her]], kicking off the entire series.\\



'''Instead:''' She lands on him and ''bites his arm'', doing nothing while he repeatedly punches her on the head.\\

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'''Instead:''' She lands on him and ''bites his arm'', doing nothing while he repeatedly punches her on the head.\\



'''Instead:''' [[TooDumbToLive He uses the uber-move]]. To make matters worse, the guy he uses it on is unaffected, thanks to his teammate, making Lee's actions pretty much a [[StupidSacrifice stupid sacrifice]].\\

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'''Instead:''' [[TooDumbToLive He uses the uber-move]]. To make matters worse, the guy he uses it on is unaffected, thanks to his teammate, making Lee's actions pretty much a [[StupidSacrifice stupid sacrifice]].\\
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'''Worth noting''': After the revelation that Madara was behind the whole event, and that he chose a time when Minato was on a faraway mission to setup the whole event, Rin would have died regardless.



'''Worth noting:''' She ''did'' land a blow to him : she stabbed him in the arm because he tried to protect himself. However, why she didn't use her advantage to take another kunai and stab him again is anybody's guess.



'''Worth noting:''' [[SpellMyNameWithAnS Gai]] did put [[PowerLimiter restrictions]] for when Lee could take off the weights.

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'''Instead:''' [[TooDumbToLive He uses the uber-move]]. To make matters worse, the guy he uses it on is unaffected, thanks to his teammate, making Lee's actions pretty much a [[StupidSacrifice stupid sacrifice]].

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'''Instead:''' [[TooDumbToLive He uses the uber-move]]. To make matters worse, the guy he uses it on is unaffected, thanks to his teammate, making Lee's actions pretty much a [[StupidSacrifice stupid sacrifice]].\\
'''Worth noting:''' [[SpellMyNameWithAnS Gai]] did put [[PowerLimiter restrictions]] for when Lee could take off the weights.
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* Right after a masked man saves Sasuke from being killed, he seemingly introduce himself as [[TheDreaded Madara Uchiha]] in front of the Kages.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' That if he really is Madara, they demand that he unmask himself in order to prove he really is the man in legend. And if he really turns out to be [[spoiler: Obito Uchiha]], someone whom they have no idea of, they immediately fight him off until he is forced to retreat.\\
'''Instead:''' They immediately believed him to be "Madara" despite having little proof of his identity.
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* Assuming that he didn't intentionally throw the fight against the heroes to outgambit Tobi, Kabuto intends to supplement the [[BigBad BigBad's]] with his army of Edo Tenseied ninjas.\\

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* Assuming that he didn't intentionally throw the fight against the heroes to outgambit Tobi, Kabuto intends to supplement the [[BigBad BigBad's]] BigBad with his army of Edo Tenseied ninjas.\\
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* Assuming that he didn't intentionally throw the fight against the heroes to outgambit Tobi, Kabuto intends to supplement the [[BigBad BigBad's]] with his army of Edo Tenseied ninjas.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' When it comes to the heroic Shinobis who are unwilling to fight their own men, Kabuto erase their personalities in order to prevent them invoking ExplainingYourPowersToTheEnemy and gaining emotional closure because as shown what he did Zabuza and Third Raikage, they can easily steamroll the opposition thanks to their unlimited Chakra and HealingFactor, meanwhile he can keep some of their personalities for the ones more willing to fight the allied forces such as the Gold and Silver Brothers and Deidara to reduce micromanagement and allow them to use their creativity to perform better in war.\\
'''Instead:''' He only does erase their personalities if he really wants to, not thinking that it will somehow backfire against him. As a result, this ended up causing many of the heroic Edo Tensei nijas to get easily sealed with little resistance.
* Kabuto managed to acquire five of the seven swords for the 7 Swordsmen of the Mist with the last two being in possession of another living ninja.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' That he does the same for Sasori; hand over him the other puppet scrolls that Sasori kept in his own arsenal. Then with Deidara's teamwork, he can supplement each of the puppets with bombs and poison, allowing the two to easily steamroll the anyone standing in their way including the opposing Surprise division and properly conduct what they were supposed to do.\\
'''Instead:''' Kabuto never does this, forcing Sasori to use Shin as his exploding puppet without any poison in his arsenal. This cost them their defeat without accomplishing anything at all save the death of one Konoha member.
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'''Instead:''' She lands on him and ''bites his arm'', doing nothing while he repeatedly punches her on the head.

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'''Instead:''' She lands on him and ''bites his arm'', doing nothing while he repeatedly punches her on the head.\\
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'''Worth noting:''' She ''did'' land a blow to him : she stabbed him in the arm because he tried to protect himself. However, why she didn't use her advantage to take another kunai and stab him again is anybody's guess.
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'''Instead:''' She completely hesitates out of fear, resulting in Madara taking back his other eye from Obito. [[NiceJobBreakingItHero Thanks a lot Sakura, you're actions brought about the beginning of Infinite Tsukuyomi]].

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'''Instead:''' She completely hesitates out of fear, resulting in Madara taking back his other eye from Obito. [[NiceJobBreakingItHero Thanks a lot Sakura, you're your actions brought about the beginning of Infinite Tsukuyomi]].
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* After he cause a cave-in in order to escape, Sasuke saves Karin from the collapse.\\

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* After he cause causes a cave-in in order to escape, Sasuke saves Karin from the collapse.\\



'''You'd Expect:''' Him to set up a trap to catch Itachi unawares, knowing what Itachi is capable of. Either a new type of clone, summoning a few of his backup Edo Tensei's, or even hiding under ground since the Sharingan can't see through the earth.\\

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'''You'd Expect:''' Him to set up a trap to catch Itachi unawares, unaware, knowing what Itachi is capable of. Either a new type of clone, summoning a few of his backup Edo Tensei's, or even hiding under ground since the Sharingan can't see through the earth.\\
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'''Worth noting''': After the revelation that Madara was behind the whole event, and that he choosed a time when Minato was on a faraway mission to setup the whole event, Rin would have died regardless.

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'''Worth noting''': After the revelation that Madara was behind the whole event, and that he choosed chose a time when Minato was on a faraway mission to setup the whole event, Rin would have died regardless.



'''You'd Expect:''' That after he kills off all the Kiri ninjas, he took both Rin and Kakashi back to Konoha, give Rin a proper burial then make a vow to her that he will make the ninja world a better place so that noone else will suffer her fate.\\
'''Instead:''' He immediately declares the world to be nothing more than despair all because his crush died and decides to work with Madara to accomplish his incredibly petty dream of seeing Rin again. If Naruto is a lot more cynical, Obito would have straight up cross the MoralEventHorizon because of atrocious acts.

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'''You'd Expect:''' That after he kills off all the Kiri ninjas, he took both Rin and Kakashi back to Konoha, give Rin a proper burial then make a vow to her that he will make the ninja world a better place so that noone no one else will suffer her fate.\\
'''Instead:''' He immediately declares the world to be nothing more than despair all because his crush died and decides to work with Madara to accomplish his incredibly petty dream of seeing Rin again. If Naruto ''Naruto'' is a lot more cynical, Obito would have straight up cross the MoralEventHorizon because of atrocious acts.
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'''Instead''': [[StupidSacrifice She makes Kakashi kill her]], kicking off the entire series.

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'''Worth noting''': After the revelation that Madara was behind the whole event, and that he choosed a time when Minato was on a faraway mission to setup the whole event, Rin would have died regardless.
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'''Instead:''' [[BlatantLies He says that she is]]. Sakura [[MegatonPunch reacts violently]] on both occasions. Even if she wasn't in earshot, lying about your status with someone is generally not good for your relationship with them.

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'''Instead:''' [[BlatantLies He says that she is]]. Sakura [[MegatonPunch [[ArmorPiercingSlap reacts violently]] on both occasions. Even if she wasn't in earshot, lying about your status with someone is generally not good for your relationship with them.
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'''You'd Expect:''' Sakura to remember that Sasuke took the death of HIS parents very badly, at one point showing clear disgust at her for thinking that not having them would be a good thing, as well as running away from the village solely so that he could become strong enough to kill the guy responsible for their deaths. In case it's not clear, he really misses them.\\
'''Instead:''' Sakura seems to think that Naruto would understand her desire to not have parents. [[NotMakingThisUpDisclaimer Not making this up]]. Depending on whether or not you consider the Naruto movies to be [[{{Canon}} canon]], at this point in the series, you could probably consider Sakura a [[{{Hypocrite}} hypocrite]] whenever she calls Naruto out for idiocy.

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'''You'd Expect:''' Sakura to remember that Sasuke took the death of HIS parents very badly, at one point showing clear disgust at her for thinking that not having them would be a good thing, as well as running away from the village solely so that he could become strong enough to kill the guy responsible for their deaths. In case it's not clear, he really misses them. Additionally, Naruto never even HAD parents growing up, but definitely would have liked to know them.\\
'''Instead:''' Sakura seems to think that Naruto they would understand her desire to not have parents. [[NotMakingThisUpDisclaimer Not making this up]]. Depending on whether or not you consider the Naruto movies to be [[{{Canon}} canon]], {{canon}}, at this point in the series, you could probably consider Sakura a [[{{Hypocrite}} hypocrite]] {{hypocrite}} whenever she calls Naruto out for idiocy.
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'''Instead:''' Sakura seems to think that Sasuke would understand her desire to not have parents. [[NotMakingThisUpDisclaimer Not making this up]]. Depending on whether or not you consider the Naruto movies to be [[{{Canon}} canon]], at this point in the series, you could probably consider Sakura a [[{{Hypocrite}} hypocrite]] whenever she calls Naruto out for idiocy.

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'''Instead:''' Sakura seems to think that Sasuke Naruto would understand her desire to not have parents. [[NotMakingThisUpDisclaimer Not making this up]]. Depending on whether or not you consider the Naruto movies to be [[{{Canon}} canon]], at this point in the series, you could probably consider Sakura a [[{{Hypocrite}} hypocrite]] whenever she calls Naruto out for idiocy.

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