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'''Also''': It's implied that the Baby Elves were influencing Leviathan and Fefnir's actions, though now the question is "why didn't they take Elpizo on all at the same time instead of standing guard at each temple and letting him take them out one by one?"
'''Although''': Earlier on, during Elpizo's 'Operation Righteous Strike', Harpuia, Fefnir and Leviathan beat the entire invasion force and Elpizo without seemingly breaking a sweat. They may have simply under-estimated Elpizo, thinking that he wouldn't be a challenge, even with the Baby Elves.

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'''Also''': It's implied that the Baby Elves were influencing Leviathan and Fefnir's actions, though now the question is "why didn't they take Elpizo on all at the same time instead of standing guard at each temple and letting him take them out one by one?"
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'''Although''': Earlier on, during Elpizo's 'Operation Righteous Strike', Harpuia, Fefnir and Leviathan beat the entire invasion force and Elpizo without seemingly breaking a sweat. They may have simply under-estimated Elpizo, thinking that he wouldn't be a challenge, even with the Baby Elves.
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'''Although''': Earlier on, during Elpizo's "Operation Righteous Strike", Harpuia, Fefnir and Leviathan beat the entire invasion force and Elpizo without seemingly breaking a sweat. They may have simply under-estimated Elpizo, thinking that he wouldn't be a challenge, even with the Baby Elves.

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'''Although''': Earlier on, during Elpizo's "Operation 'Operation Righteous Strike", Strike', Harpuia, Fefnir and Leviathan beat the entire invasion force and Elpizo without seemingly breaking a sweat. They may have simply under-estimated Elpizo, thinking that he wouldn't be a challenge, even with the Baby Elves.
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'''Although''': Earlier on, during Elpizo's "Operation Righteous Strike", Harpuia, Fefnir and Leviathan beat the entire invasion force and Elpizo without seemingly breaking a sweat. They may have simply under-estimated Elpizo, thinking that he wouldn't be a challenge, even with the Baby Elves.
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* Dr. Weil has just been captured, after cursing the Dark Elf and creating [[OmnicidalManiac Omega]], who has wiped out 60% of the human population and 90% of the Reploid population (This is in the century following the Maverick Wars, including the Eurasia Incident, which already nearly wiped out all life on Earth, meaning Weil followed a near-mass extinction event with ''another one''.) All mostly ForTheEvulz. X, ever the kind soul, spares his life, and instructs his subjects to do the same.\\

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* Dr. Weil has just been captured, after cursing the Dark Elf and creating [[OmnicidalManiac Omega]], who has wiped out 60% of the human population and 90% of the Reploid population (This is in the century following the Maverick Wars, including the Eurasia Incident, which already nearly wiped out all life on Earth, meaning Weil followed up a near-mass extinction event with ''another one''.) one''). All mostly ForTheEvulz. X, ever the kind soul, spares his life, and instructs his subjects to do the same.\\
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* Dr. Weil has just been captured, after cursing the Dark Elf and creating [[OmnicidalManiac Omega]], who has wiped out 60% of the human population and 90% of the Reploid population. All mostly ForTheEvulz. X, ever the kind soul, spares his life, and instructs his subjects to do the same.\\

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* Dr. Weil has just been captured, after cursing the Dark Elf and creating [[OmnicidalManiac Omega]], who has wiped out 60% of the human population and 90% of the Reploid population. population (This is in the century following the Maverick Wars, including the Eurasia Incident, which already nearly wiped out all life on Earth, meaning Weil followed a near-mass extinction event with ''another one''.) All mostly ForTheEvulz. X, ever the kind soul, spares his life, and instructs his subjects to do the same.\\

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'''You'd expect''': Weil knows damn well that Zero is a force to be reckoned with given the countless numbers of foes he's cut down regardless of the odds (not to mention purifying the Dark Elf ''and'' destroying Omega, two things X and Zero weren't able to do together a hundred years previous), and would immediately do everything in his damnedest to kill the robot with whatever he's got. He also has a regenerative body that would allow him to stall for time as Ragnarok continues its descending course, as it's allowed him to survive a hundred years already without dying.\\
'''Instead''': [[ExplainingYourPowerToTheEnemy He tells Zero about his special body]] in the midst of his mix of MotiveRant and [[SmugSnake mockery;]] he gets whooped, floats right back in to curse Zero, then fuses himself with the core of Ragnarok in a fit of megalomania and then [[TemptingFate dares him to cut down a]] [[AmbiguouslyHuman 'human']] out of a moment of FantasticRacism over the ThreeLawsCompliant concept (that Zero and Reploids in general do not follow) in a last-ditch attempt to complete his ColonyDrop plan; [[HoistByHisOwnPetard he fails, as this lets Zero destroy the core and defeat him simultaneously.]] [[PyrrhicVictory While this succeeds in killing Zero,]] it also results in Ragnarok breaking up in the atmosphere before it can harm anything and Weil himself [[AndIMustScream effectively trapped in the pieces of ruins and debris]] out of the sheer fact that he [[EvilCannotComprehendGood absolutely underestimated Zero.]] About the only justification Weil has for being this thoughtlessly reckless is that he's a potential DeathSeeker aiming to escape his immortality, but he still ruined his plans near-entirely.

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'''You'd expect''': Weil knows damn well that Zero is a force to be reckoned with given the countless numbers of foes he's cut down regardless of the odds (not to mention purifying the Dark Elf ''and'' destroying Omega, two things X and Zero weren't able to do together a hundred years previous), and would should immediately do everything in ''everything'' within his damnedest immense power to kill the robot with whatever he's got. He also has a regenerative regenerative, nigh-immortal body that would allow him to stall for time as Ragnarok continues its descending course, as it's allowed him to survive his imposed exile to the hellish wastelands outside Neo Arcadia for a hundred years already without dying.century already.\\
'''Instead''': [[ExplainingYourPowerToTheEnemy He tells Zero about his special body]] in the midst of his mix of MotiveRant and [[SmugSnake mockery;]] he gets whooped, floats right back in to curse directly fights Zero, then fuses which doesn't go according to plan and causes him to get struck down momentarily.\\
'''And Then''': This causes Weil to fuse
himself with the core of Ragnarok in a fit of megalomania and then [[TemptingFate dares him to cut down a]] [[AmbiguouslyHuman 'human']] a human]] out of a moment of FantasticRacism being a contemptuous, [[FantasticRacism racist]] prick over the ThreeLawsCompliant concept (that Zero and Reploids in general do not follow) in a last-ditch attempt to complete his ColonyDrop plan; plan.\\
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[[HoistByHisOwnPetard he fails, He fails]], as this lets Zero directly destroy the core and defeat him simultaneously.]] finally kill Weil simultaneously. [[PyrrhicVictory While this succeeds in killing Zero,]] it also results in Ragnarok breaking up in the atmosphere before it can harm anything and Weil himself [[AndIMustScream effectively trapped in the pieces of ruins and debris]] out of the sheer fact that he [[EvilCannotComprehendGood absolutely underestimated Zero.]] Zero. ''Yet again.'' About the only justification Weil has for being this thoughtlessly reckless is that he's a potential DeathSeeker aiming to escape his immortality, but he still ruined his plans near-entirely.
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''[[JustifiedTrope Justification]]'': [[AllThereInTheManual Supplementary materials]] reveal that [[spoiler:the Eight Gentle Judges presided over his case--Reploids ''Weil'' designed. It's quite possible that Weil, predicting the consequences of his actions, secretly programmed them to opt for imprisonment over execution]]. Another possible explanation is that the Reploids ''did'' want to kill Weil, but were too afraid of being branded as Mavericks to go through with it. That being said, this doesn't explain why no ''humans'' killed Weil. \\

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''[[JustifiedTrope Justification]]'': '''[[JustifiedTrope Justification]]''': [[AllThereInTheManual Supplementary materials]] reveal that [[spoiler:the Eight Gentle Judges presided over his case--Reploids whom ''Weil'' designed. It's quite possible that Weil, predicting the consequences of his actions, secretly programmed them to opt for imprisonment over execution]]. Another possible explanation is that the Reploids ''did'' want to kill Weil, but were too afraid of being branded as Mavericks to go through with it. That being said, this doesn't explain why no ''humans'' ''[[ExactWords humans]]'' killed Weil. \\
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* The incident that started the series was made of this. After decades of research, the scientists of Neo Arcadia have finally managed to create the ultimate vaccine to the Sigma Virus thanks to their studies of Zero. The government has effectively cured every viral maverick on the planet, but also plan to clear every maverick (including ones acting without the influence of the virus) of all charges. This does not sit well with Dr. Weil.\\
'''You'd expect''': He'd appeal to his superiors that the mavericks who could reasonably be said to have acted of their own free will, such as Dynamo, for example, would be charged not as Mavericks, but as ''criminals''. As ''X8'' shows, the two are (or are ''supposed'' to be) separate classifications. As for the former Mavericks, he could simply suggest surveillance measures be put in place, for safety's sake. After all, this wouldn't be [[VideoGame/MegaManX3 the first time]] a so-called vaccine turned out to be a placebo.\\

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* The incident that started the series was made of this. After decades of research, the scientists of Neo Arcadia have finally managed to create the ultimate vaccine to the Sigma Virus thanks to their studies of Zero. The government has effectively cured every viral maverick Maverick on the planet, but also plan to clear every maverick (including ones acting ''every'' Maverick--even those without the influence of the virus) of Virus--of all charges. This does not sit well with Dr. Weil.\\
'''You'd expect''': He'd appeal to his superiors that the mavericks Mavericks who could reasonably be said to have acted of their own free will, such as Dynamo, for example, would be charged not as Mavericks, but as ''criminals''. As ''X8'' shows, [[ContinuitySnarl later shows]], the two are (or are ''supposed'' to be) separate classifications. As for the former Mavericks, he could simply suggest surveillance measures be put in place, for safety's sake. After all, this wouldn't be [[VideoGame/MegaManX3 the first time]] a so-called vaccine turned out to be a placebo.\\
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''[[JustifiedTrope Justification]]'': [[AllThereInTheManual Supplementary materials]] reveal that [[spoiler:the Eight Gentle Judges presided over his case--Reploids ''Weil'' designed. It's quite possible that Weil, predicting the consequences of his actions, secretly programmed them to opt for imprisonment over execution. Another possible explanation is that the Reploids ''did'' want to kill Weil, but were too afraid of being branded as Mavericks to go through with it]]. That being said, this doesn't explain why no ''humans'' killed Weil.]] \\

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''[[JustifiedTrope Justification]]'': [[AllThereInTheManual Supplementary materials]] reveal that [[spoiler:the Eight Gentle Judges presided over his case--Reploids ''Weil'' designed. It's quite possible that Weil, predicting the consequences of his actions, secretly programmed them to opt for imprisonment over execution. execution]]. Another possible explanation is that the Reploids ''did'' want to kill Weil, but were too afraid of being branded as Mavericks to go through with it]].it. That being said, this doesn't explain why no ''humans'' killed Weil.]] \\
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'''Instead''': They obey X's exact words and punish Weil via a loophole, an escapable FateWorseThanDeath: they seal him in a capsule that prevents aging, but ''keeps'' his memory intact, so he can see how the world thrived despite his actions. Naturally, when some idiot decades later breaks the seal down, he becomes more monstrous and vengeful and eventually succeeds in [[TakeOverTheWorld taking over the world]] and creates a [[CrapsackWorld hell on earth]] to rival the Elf Wars. [[spoiler:[[JustifiedTrope Later on, it's revealed that the people who decided to seal him away were the Eight Gentle Judges, who Weil himself created. It may not be too far-fetched to think that Weil secretly programmed them to do that instead of killing him when he created them, because he knew that something like this could happen, wich would explain all of this. Another possible explanation is that the reploids ''did'' want to kill Weil, but were too afraid of being labeled as Mavericks for disobeying orders and getting destroyed by X, so they didn't do so.]] That being said, this doesn't explain why the humans didn't kill Weil instead.]] \\

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'''Instead''': They obey X's exact words and punish Weil via a loophole, an escapable FateWorseThanDeath: they seal him in a capsule that prevents aging, but ''keeps'' his memory intact, so he can see how the world thrived despite his actions. Naturally, when some idiot decades later breaks the seal down, he becomes more monstrous and vengeful and eventually succeeds in [[TakeOverTheWorld taking over the world]] and creates a [[CrapsackWorld hell on earth]] to rival the Elf Wars. [[spoiler:[[JustifiedTrope Later on, it's revealed \\
''[[JustifiedTrope Justification]]'': [[AllThereInTheManual Supplementary materials]] reveal
that the people who decided to seal him away were the [[spoiler:the Eight Gentle Judges, who Weil himself created. It may not be too far-fetched to think Judges presided over his case--Reploids ''Weil'' designed. It's quite possible that Weil Weil, predicting the consequences of his actions, secretly programmed them to do that instead of killing him when he created them, because he knew that something like this could happen, wich would explain all of this. opt for imprisonment over execution. Another possible explanation is that the reploids Reploids ''did'' want to kill Weil, but were too afraid of being labeled branded as Mavericks for disobeying orders and getting destroyed by X, so they didn't do so.]] to go through with it]]. That being said, this doesn't explain why the humans didn't kill Weil instead.no ''humans'' killed Weil.]] \\
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'''Instead''': They obey X's exact words and punish Weil via a loophole, an escapable FateWorseThanDeath: they seal him in a capsule that prevents aging, but ''keeps'' his memory intact, so he can see how the world thrived despite his actions. Naturally, when some idiot decades later breaks the seal down, he becomes more monstrous and vengeful and eventually succeeds in [[TakeOverTheWorld taking over the world]] and makes it so [[CrapsackWorld crapsack]] that it's worse than hell. [[spoiler:[[JustifiedTrope Later on, it's revealed that the people who decided to seal him away were the Eight Gentle Judges, who Weil himself created. It may not be too far-fetched to think that Weil secretly programmed them to do that instead of killing him when he created them, because he knew that something like this could happen, wich would explain all of this. Another possible explanation is that the reploids ''did'' want to kill Weil, but were too afraid of being labeled as Mavericks for disobeying orders and getting destroyed by X, so they didn't do so.]] That being said, this doesn't explain why the humans didn't kill Weil instead.]] \\

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'''Instead''': They obey X's exact words and punish Weil via a loophole, an escapable FateWorseThanDeath: they seal him in a capsule that prevents aging, but ''keeps'' his memory intact, so he can see how the world thrived despite his actions. Naturally, when some idiot decades later breaks the seal down, he becomes more monstrous and vengeful and eventually succeeds in [[TakeOverTheWorld taking over the world]] and makes it so creates a [[CrapsackWorld crapsack]] that it's worse than hell.hell on earth]] to rival the Elf Wars. [[spoiler:[[JustifiedTrope Later on, it's revealed that the people who decided to seal him away were the Eight Gentle Judges, who Weil himself created. It may not be too far-fetched to think that Weil secretly programmed them to do that instead of killing him when he created them, because he knew that something like this could happen, wich would explain all of this. Another possible explanation is that the reploids ''did'' want to kill Weil, but were too afraid of being labeled as Mavericks for disobeying orders and getting destroyed by X, so they didn't do so.]] That being said, this doesn't explain why the humans didn't kill Weil instead.]] \\
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'''Instead''': He decides ''all'' Repoids should pay for what Sigma and the other Mavericks did -- the ones who've been cured, innocent civilians, and even the Maverick Hunters who fought to protect people from the Mavericks -- and uses the Dark Elf to commit an act of global terrorism. With her and his own personal WMD, Omega, he proceeds to slaughter the majority of the planet's population.

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'''Instead''': He decides ''all'' Repoids Reploids should pay for what Sigma and the other Mavericks did -- the ones who've those who have been cured, innocent civilians, and even the Maverick Hunters who fought to protect people from the Mavericks -- and uses the Dark Elf to commit an act of global terrorism. With her and his own personal WMD, Omega, he proceeds to slaughter the majority of the planet's population.
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'''Instead''': Only Harpuia is sent, while Leviathan and Fefnir dick around waiting to play with Zero.

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'''Instead''': Only Harpuia is sent, while Leviathan and Fefnir dick around waiting to play with Zero.\\
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'''Instead''': Only Harpuia is sent, while Leviathan and Fafnir dick around waiting to play with Zero.

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'''Instead''': Only Harpuia is sent, while Leviathan and Fafnir Fefnir dick around waiting to play with Zero.
'''Also''': It's implied that the Baby Elves were influencing Leviathan and Fefnir's actions, though now the question is "why didn't they take Elpizo on all at the same time instead of standing guard at each temple and letting him take them out one by one?"
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* Craft is dead. Weil is [[spoiler:presumed]] dead. Without anybody at the controls, the Ragnarok satellite is no longer firing. Zero is still on Ragnarok, in the main control room in which he had just fought Craft. It came at a considerable cost to all involved, but it seems that our heroes may have won the day.\\
'''You'd Think:''' Zero would make sure Ragnarok gets destroyed -- or at least disabled beyond all capacity of ever being fired again -- before transferring back to Earth. Zero may not remember much of his experience from the ''X'' series[[note]]''Mega Man X4'' and ''X5'' put focus on Dr. Wily's spirit living on past death through Zero, and then the Maverick Virus[[/note]], but he has seen enough in the ''Zero'' series to know when an important character might still be able to influence events after being KilledOffForReal. If Dr. Weil didn't survive Craft's assassination attempt, and if he doesn't have a means of firing Ragnarok from beyond the grave, he's sure to have another BrainwashedAndCrazy disciple willing to do it in his name.\\

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* Craft is dead. Weil is [[spoiler:presumed]] dead. Weil's forces are defeated. Without anybody at the controls, the Ragnarok satellite is no longer firing. Zero is still on Ragnarok, in the main control room in which he had just fought Craft. It came at a considerable cost to all involved, but it seems that our heroes may have won the day.\\
'''You'd Think:''' Zero would make sure Ragnarok gets destroyed -- or at least disabled beyond all capacity of ever being fired again -- before transferring back to Earth. Zero may not remember much of his experience from the ''X'' series[[note]]''Mega Man X4'' DeathIsCheap for a MagnificentBastard BigBad in a ''Mega Man'' game, and ''X5'' put focus on Dr. Wily's spirit living on past death through Zero, and then the Maverick Virus[[/note]], but he has Zero's seen enough in the ''Zero'' series [[VideoGame/MegaManClassic Dr. Wily]] team up with [[VideoGame/MegaManX Sigma]] to know when an important character might still be able to influence events after torment him despite being KilledOffForReal. If long-dead. Even if Dr. Weil didn't survive Craft's assassination attempt, and if he doesn't have a means of firing Ragnarok from beyond the grave, he's sure to have another really is dead, Zero has no idea how many BrainwashedAndCrazy disciple willing to do it in his name.followers he still has left.\\

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'''You'd expect''': His captors would realize that the threat he poses is simply too great, and that [[MoralEventHorizon he is]] [[CompleteMonster thoroughly]] ''[[ThisIsUnforgivable irredeemable]]'', and [[ScrewTheRulesImDoingWhatsRight kill him, X's orders be damned.]]\\

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'''You'd expect''': His captors would realize that the threat he poses is simply too great, and that [[MoralEventHorizon he is]] [[CompleteMonster thoroughly]] thoroughly ''[[ThisIsUnforgivable irredeemable]]'', and [[ScrewTheRulesImDoingWhatsRight kill him, X's orders be damned.]]\\
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* Dr. Weil has just been captured, after cursing the Dark Elf and creating [[OmnicidalManiac Omega]], who has wiped out 60% of the human population and 90% of the Reploid population. All mostly ForTheEvulz.\\ X, ever the kind soul, spares his life, and instructs his subjects to do the same.\\
'''You'd expect''': His captors would realize the threat he poses is simply too great, and that he is thoroughly ''[[ThisIsUnforgivable irredeemable]]'', and [[ScrewTheRulesImDoingWhatsRight kill him, X's orders be damned.]]\\
'''Instead''': They obey X's exact words and punish Weil via a loophole, an escapable FateWorseThanDeath: they seal him in a capsule that prevents aging, but ''keeps'' his memory intact, so he can see how the world thrived despite his actions. Naturally, when some idiot decades later breaks the seal down, he becomes more monstrous and vengeful and eventually succeeds in [[TakeOverTheWorld taking over the world]] and makes it so [[CrapsackWorld crapsack]] that it's worse than hell. [[spoiler:[[JustifiedTrope Later on, it's revealed that the people who decided to seal him away were the Eight Gentle Judges, who Weil himself created. It may not be too far-fetched to think that Weil secretly programmed them to do that instead of killing him when he created them, because he knew that something like this could happen, wich would explain all of this. Another possible explanation is that the reploids DID want to kill Weil, but were too afraid to be labeled as Mavericks for disobeying orders and destroyed by X, so they didn't do so.]] That being said, this doesn't explain why the humans didn't kill Weil instead.]] \\

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* Dr. Weil has just been captured, after cursing the Dark Elf and creating [[OmnicidalManiac Omega]], who has wiped out 60% of the human population and 90% of the Reploid population. All mostly ForTheEvulz.\\ X, ever the kind soul, spares his life, and instructs his subjects to do the same.\\
'''You'd expect''': His captors would realize that the threat he poses is simply too great, and that [[MoralEventHorizon he is thoroughly is]] [[CompleteMonster thoroughly]] ''[[ThisIsUnforgivable irredeemable]]'', and [[ScrewTheRulesImDoingWhatsRight kill him, X's orders be damned.]]\\
'''Instead''': They obey X's exact words and punish Weil via a loophole, an escapable FateWorseThanDeath: they seal him in a capsule that prevents aging, but ''keeps'' his memory intact, so he can see how the world thrived despite his actions. Naturally, when some idiot decades later breaks the seal down, he becomes more monstrous and vengeful and eventually succeeds in [[TakeOverTheWorld taking over the world]] and makes it so [[CrapsackWorld crapsack]] that it's worse than hell. [[spoiler:[[JustifiedTrope Later on, it's revealed that the people who decided to seal him away were the Eight Gentle Judges, who Weil himself created. It may not be too far-fetched to think that Weil secretly programmed them to do that instead of killing him when he created them, because he knew that something like this could happen, wich would explain all of this. Another possible explanation is that the reploids DID ''did'' want to kill Weil, but were too afraid to be of being labeled as Mavericks for disobeying orders and getting destroyed by X, so they didn't do so.]] That being said, this doesn't explain why the humans didn't kill Weil instead.]] \\



* Craft is dead. Weil is [[spoiler: presumed]] dead. Without anybody at the controls, the Ragnarok satellite is no longer firing. Zero is still on Ragnarok, in the main control room in which he had just fought Craft. It came at a considerable cost to all involved, but it seems that our heroes may have won the day.\\
'''You'd Think:''' Zero would make sure Ragnarok gets destroyed--or at least disabled beyond all capacity of ever being fired again--before transferring back to Earth. Zero may not remember much of his experience from the ''X'' series,[[note]]''Mega Man X4'' and ''X5'' put focus on Dr. Wily's spirit living on past death through Zero, and then the Maverick Virus[[/note]] but he has seen enough in the ''Zero'' series to know when an important character might still be able to influence events after being KilledOffForReal. If Dr. Weil didn't survive Craft's assassination attempt, and if he doesn't have a means of firing Ragnarok from beyond the grave, he's sure to have another BrainwashedAndCrazy disciple willing to do it in his name.\\

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* Craft is dead. Weil is [[spoiler: presumed]] [[spoiler:presumed]] dead. Without anybody at the controls, the Ragnarok satellite is no longer firing. Zero is still on Ragnarok, in the main control room in which he had just fought Craft. It came at a considerable cost to all involved, but it seems that our heroes may have won the day.\\
'''You'd Think:''' Zero would make sure Ragnarok gets destroyed--or destroyed -- or at least disabled beyond all capacity of ever being fired again--before again -- before transferring back to Earth. Zero may not remember much of his experience from the ''X'' series,[[note]]''Mega series[[note]]''Mega Man X4'' and ''X5'' put focus on Dr. Wily's spirit living on past death through Zero, and then the Maverick Virus[[/note]] Virus[[/note]], but he has seen enough in the ''Zero'' series to know when an important character might still be able to influence events after being KilledOffForReal. If Dr. Weil didn't survive Craft's assassination attempt, and if he doesn't have a means of firing Ragnarok from beyond the grave, he's sure to have another BrainwashedAndCrazy disciple willing to do it in his name.\\
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* Craft is dead. Without anybody at the controls, the Ragnarok satellite is no longer firing. Zero is still on Ragnarok, in the main control room in which he had just fought Craft. It came at a considerable cost to all involved, but it seems that our heroes may have won the day.\\
'''You'd Think:''' Zero would make sure Ragnarok gets destroyed--or at least disabled beyond all capacity of ever being fired again--before transferring back to Earth. Dr. Weil is such a grand master of the XanatosGambit that he may not necessarily need to be alive in order to use that KillSat again. If he doesn't have a means of doing it from beyond the grave, he's sure to have a BrainwashedAndCrazy disciple of his willing to do it in his name.\\

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* Craft is dead. Weil is [[spoiler: presumed]] dead. Without anybody at the controls, the Ragnarok satellite is no longer firing. Zero is still on Ragnarok, in the main control room in which he had just fought Craft. It came at a considerable cost to all involved, but it seems that our heroes may have won the day.\\
'''You'd Think:''' Zero would make sure Ragnarok gets destroyed--or at least disabled beyond all capacity of ever being fired again--before transferring back to Earth. Zero may not remember much of his experience from the ''X'' series,[[note]]''Mega Man X4'' and ''X5'' put focus on Dr. Wily's spirit living on past death through Zero, and then the Maverick Virus[[/note]] but he has seen enough in the ''Zero'' series to know when an important character might still be able to influence events after being KilledOffForReal. If Dr. Weil is such a grand master of the XanatosGambit that he may not necessarily need to be alive in order to use that KillSat again. If didn't survive Craft's assassination attempt, and if he doesn't have a means of doing it firing Ragnarok from beyond the grave, he's sure to have a another BrainwashedAndCrazy disciple of his willing to do it in his name.\\
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* On the heroes' side to the above, Craft is dead, and without anybody at the controls, the Ragnarok satellite is no longer firing. Zero is still on Ragnarok, in the main control room in which he just fought Craft.\\
'''You'd Think:''' Zero would make sure Ragnarok gets destroyed--or at least disabled beyond all capacity of ever being fired again--before transferring back to Earth. Dr. Weil is such a grand master of the XanatosGambit that he may not necessarily need to be alive in order to use that KillSat again. If he doesn't have a means of doing it from beyond the grave, he's sure to have a BrainwashedAndCrazy disciple of his do it in his name.\\
'''Instead:''' He just transfers out, leaving a fully-operational KillSat in orbit with the keys still in the ignition. He gets the chance to follow through on destroying Ragnarok after Weil's moment above, but Weil's escalating efforts to destroy Area Zero in spite of Zero's efforts to stop him drive the cost [[HeroicSacrifice significantly higher.]]

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* On the heroes' side to the above, Craft is dead, and without dead. Without anybody at the controls, the Ragnarok satellite is no longer firing. Zero is still on Ragnarok, in the main control room in which he had just fought Craft.Craft. It came at a considerable cost to all involved, but it seems that our heroes may have won the day.\\
'''You'd Think:''' Zero would make sure Ragnarok gets destroyed--or at least disabled beyond all capacity of ever being fired again--before transferring back to Earth. Dr. Weil is such a grand master of the XanatosGambit that he may not necessarily need to be alive in order to use that KillSat again. If he doesn't have a means of doing it from beyond the grave, he's sure to have a BrainwashedAndCrazy disciple of his willing to do it in his name.\\
'''Instead:''' He Zero just transfers out, leaving a fully-operational KillSat in orbit with the keys still in the ignition. He gets the chance to follow through on destroying Ragnarok after Weil's moment above, but Weil's escalating efforts to destroy Area Zero in spite of Zero's efforts to stop him drive the cost [[HeroicSacrifice significantly higher.]]
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'''You'd Think:''' Zero would make sure Ragnarok gets destroyed--or at least rendered incapable of firing again--before transferring back to Earth. If Dr. Weil doesn't [[MagnificentBastard have some contingency plan for reactivating Ragnarok]] [[ThanatosGambit even in death]], he's sure to have some BrainwashedAndCrazy loyalist willing to do it in his name. Both have been known to happen in previous games.\\

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'''You'd Think:''' Zero would make sure Ragnarok gets destroyed--or at least rendered incapable disabled beyond all capacity of firing ever being fired again--before transferring back to Earth. If Dr. Weil is such a grand master of the XanatosGambit that he may not necessarily need to be alive in order to use that KillSat again. If he doesn't [[MagnificentBastard have some contingency plan for reactivating Ragnarok]] [[ThanatosGambit even in death]], a means of doing it from beyond the grave, he's sure to have some a BrainwashedAndCrazy loyalist willing to disciple of his do it in his name. Both have been known to happen in previous games.name.\\
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'''You'd Think:''' Zero would make sure Ragnarok gets destroyed--or at least rendered incapable of firing again--before transferring back to Earth. If Dr. Weil doesn't [[MagnificantBastard have some contingency plan for reactivating Ragnarok]] [[ThanatosGambit even in death]], he's sure to have some BrainwashedAndCrazy loyalist willing to do it in his name. Both have been known to happen in previous games.\\

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'''You'd Think:''' Zero would make sure Ragnarok gets destroyed--or at least rendered incapable of firing again--before transferring back to Earth. If Dr. Weil doesn't [[MagnificantBastard [[MagnificentBastard have some contingency plan for reactivating Ragnarok]] [[ThanatosGambit even in death]], he's sure to have some BrainwashedAndCrazy loyalist willing to do it in his name. Both have been known to happen in previous games.\\
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* On the heroes' side to the above, Craft is dead, and the Ragnarok satellite is disabled. Zero is still on Ragnarok, in the main control room in which he just fought Craft.\\
'''You'd Think:''' Zero would make sure Ragnarok gets destroyed before transferring back to Earth. Weil is by far the most MagnificentBastard in ''Mega Man'' history. If he doesn't have some contingency plan for reactivating Ragnarok himself even in death, he's sure to have some BrainwashedAndCrazy loyalist willing to do it in his name.\\
'''Instead:''' He just transfers out, leaving an extremely dangerous KillSat in orbit with the keys still in the ignition. He gets the chance to follow through on destroying Ragnarok after Weil's moment above, but Weil's escalating efforts to destroy Area Zero in spite of Zero's efforts to stop him make the cost [[HeroicSacrifice significantly higher.]]

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* On the heroes' side to the above, Craft is dead, and without anybody at the controls, the Ragnarok satellite is disabled.no longer firing. Zero is still on Ragnarok, in the main control room in which he just fought Craft.\\
'''You'd Think:''' Zero would make sure Ragnarok gets destroyed before destroyed--or at least rendered incapable of firing again--before transferring back to Earth. If Dr. Weil is by far the most MagnificentBastard in ''Mega Man'' history. If he doesn't [[MagnificantBastard have some contingency plan for reactivating Ragnarok himself Ragnarok]] [[ThanatosGambit even in death, death]], he's sure to have some BrainwashedAndCrazy loyalist willing to do it in his name.name. Both have been known to happen in previous games.\\
'''Instead:''' He just transfers out, leaving an extremely dangerous a fully-operational KillSat in orbit with the keys still in the ignition. He gets the chance to follow through on destroying Ragnarok after Weil's moment above, but Weil's escalating efforts to destroy Area Zero in spite of Zero's efforts to stop him make drive the cost [[HeroicSacrifice significantly higher.]]
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'''You'd Think:''' Zero would make sure Ragnarok gets destroyed before transferring back to Earth. Weil has proven throughout the series that he is by far the most MagnificentBastard in the main ''Mega Man'' canon's history; if he doesn't have some contingency plan for reactivating Ragnarok himself even in death, he's sure to have some BrainwashedAndCrazy loyalist willing to do it in his name.\\

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'''You'd Think:''' Zero would make sure Ragnarok gets destroyed before transferring back to Earth. Weil has proven throughout the series that he is by far the most MagnificentBastard in the main ''Mega Man'' canon's history; if history. If he doesn't have some contingency plan for reactivating Ragnarok himself even in death, he's sure to have some BrainwashedAndCrazy loyalist willing to do it in his name.\\
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'''Instead:''' He just transfers out, leaving a highly dangerous KillSat in orbit with the keys still in the ignition. He gets the chance to follow through on destroying Ragnarok after Weil's moment above, but Weil's actions make the cost to do it [[HeroicSacrifice significantly higher.]]

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'''Instead:''' He just transfers out, leaving a highly an extremely dangerous KillSat in orbit with the keys still in the ignition. He gets the chance to follow through on destroying Ragnarok after Weil's moment above, but Weil's actions escalating efforts to destroy Area Zero in spite of Zero's efforts to stop him make the cost to do it [[HeroicSacrifice significantly higher.]]
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'''Instead:''' He just transfers out, leaving a highly dangerous KillSat in orbit with the keys still in the ignition. He gets the chance to follow through on destroying Ragnarok after Weil's moment above, but thanks to Weil it takes a HeroicSacrifice to do it.

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'''Instead:''' He just transfers out, leaving a highly dangerous KillSat in orbit with the keys still in the ignition. He gets the chance to follow through on destroying Ragnarok after Weil's moment above, but thanks to Weil it takes a HeroicSacrifice Weil's actions make the cost to do it.
it [[HeroicSacrifice significantly higher.]]
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'''You'd Think:''' Zero would make sure Ragnarok gets destroyed before transferring back to Earth. Weil has proven throughout the series that he is by far the most MagnificentBastard in the main ''Mega Man'' canon's history; if he doesn't have some contingency plan for reactivating Ragnarok himself even in death, he's sure to have some BrainwashedAndCrazy loyalist willing to do it in his name.

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'''You'd Think:''' Zero would make sure Ragnarok gets destroyed before transferring back to Earth. Weil has proven throughout the series that he is by far the most MagnificentBastard in the main ''Mega Man'' canon's history; if he doesn't have some contingency plan for reactivating Ragnarok himself even in death, he's sure to have some BrainwashedAndCrazy loyalist willing to do it in his name.\\
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* On the heroes' side to the above, Craft is dead, and the Ragnarok satellite is disabled. Zero is still on Ragnarok, in the main control room in which he just fought Craft.\\
'''You'd Think:''' Zero would make sure Ragnarok gets destroyed before transferring back to Earth. Weil has proven throughout the series that he is by far the most MagnificentBastard in the main ''Mega Man'' canon's history; if he doesn't have some contingency plan for reactivating Ragnarok himself even in death, he's sure to have some BrainwashedAndCrazy loyalist willing to do it in his name.
'''Instead:''' He just transfers out, leaving a highly dangerous KillSat in orbit with the keys still in the ignition. He gets the chance to follow through on destroying Ragnarok after Weil's moment above, but thanks to Weil it takes a HeroicSacrifice to do it.
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* The incident that started the series was made of this. After decades of research, the scientists of Neo Arcadia have finally managed to create the ultimate vaccine to the Sigma Virus thanks to their studies of Zero. The government has effectively cured every viral maverick on the planet, but also plan to clear every maverick(including ones acting without the influence of the virus) of all charges. This does not sit well with Dr. Weil.\\
'''You'd expect''': He'd appeal to his superiors that the mavericks who could reasonably be said to have acted of their own free will, such as Dynamo, for example, would be charged not as Mavericks, but as ''criminals''. As X8 shows, the two are(or are ''supposed'' to be) separate classifications. As for the former Mavericks, he could simply suggest surveillance measures be put in place, for safety's sake. After all, this wouldn't be the first time a so-called vaccine turned out to be a placebo.\\
'''Instead''': He decides ''all'' Repoids should pay for what Sigma and the other mavericks did. The ones who've been cured, innocent civilians, and even the Maverick Hunters who fought to protect people from the Mavericks , and uses the Dark Elf to commit an act of global terrorism. With her and his own personal WMD, Omega, he proceeds to slaughter the majority of the planet's population.

* Dr. Weil has just been captured, after cursing the Dark Elf and creating [[OmnicidalManiac Omega]], who has wiped out 60% of human population and 90% of Reploid population. All mostly ForTheEvulz.\\ X, ever the kind soul, spares his life, and instructs his subjects to do the same.\\
'''You'd expect''': His captors would realize the threat he poses is simply too great, and ''[[ThisIsUnforgivable irredeemable]]'' and [[ScrewTheRulesImDoingWhatsRight kill him, X's orders be damned.]]\\
'''Instead''': They obey X's exact words and punish Weil via a loophole, an escapable FateWorseThanDeath: they seal him in a capsule that prevents aging, but ''keeps'' his memory intact, so he can see how the world thrived despite his actions. Naturally, when some idiot decades later break the seal down, he becomes more monstrous and vengeful and eventually succeeds in [[TakeOverTheWorld taking over the world]] and make it so [[CrapsackWorld crapsack]] that it's worse than hell. [[spoiler: [[JustifiedTrope Later on, it's revealed that the people who decided to seal him away were the Eight Gentle Judges, who Weil himself created. It may not be too far-fetched to think that Weil secretly programmed them to do that instead of killing him when he created them, because he knew that something like this could happen, wich would explain all of this. Another possible explanation is that the reploids DID want to kill Weil, but were too afraid to be labeled as Mavericks for disobeying orders and destroyed by X, so they didn't do so.]] That being said, this doesn't explain why the humans didn't kill Weil instead.]] \\

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* The incident that started the series was made of this. After decades of research, the scientists of Neo Arcadia have finally managed to create the ultimate vaccine to the Sigma Virus thanks to their studies of Zero. The government has effectively cured every viral maverick on the planet, but also plan to clear every maverick(including maverick (including ones acting without the influence of the virus) of all charges. This does not sit well with Dr. Weil.\\
'''You'd expect''': He'd appeal to his superiors that the mavericks who could reasonably be said to have acted of their own free will, such as Dynamo, for example, would be charged not as Mavericks, but as ''criminals''. As X8 ''X8'' shows, the two are(or are (or are ''supposed'' to be) separate classifications. As for the former Mavericks, he could simply suggest surveillance measures be put in place, for safety's sake. After all, this wouldn't be [[VideoGame/MegaManX3 the first time time]] a so-called vaccine turned out to be a placebo.\\
'''Instead''': He decides ''all'' Repoids should pay for what Sigma and the other mavericks did. The Mavericks did -- the ones who've been cured, innocent civilians, and even the Maverick Hunters who fought to protect people from the Mavericks , -- and uses the Dark Elf to commit an act of global terrorism. With her and his own personal WMD, Omega, he proceeds to slaughter the majority of the planet's population.

* Dr. Weil has just been captured, after cursing the Dark Elf and creating [[OmnicidalManiac Omega]], who has wiped out 60% of the human population and 90% of the Reploid population. All mostly ForTheEvulz.\\ X, ever the kind soul, spares his life, and instructs his subjects to do the same.\\
'''You'd expect''': His captors would realize the threat he poses is simply too great, and that he is thoroughly ''[[ThisIsUnforgivable irredeemable]]'' irredeemable]]'', and [[ScrewTheRulesImDoingWhatsRight kill him, X's orders be damned.]]\\
'''Instead''': They obey X's exact words and punish Weil via a loophole, an escapable FateWorseThanDeath: they seal him in a capsule that prevents aging, but ''keeps'' his memory intact, so he can see how the world thrived despite his actions. Naturally, when some idiot decades later break breaks the seal down, he becomes more monstrous and vengeful and eventually succeeds in [[TakeOverTheWorld taking over the world]] and make makes it so [[CrapsackWorld crapsack]] that it's worse than hell. [[spoiler: [[JustifiedTrope [[spoiler:[[JustifiedTrope Later on, it's revealed that the people who decided to seal him away were the Eight Gentle Judges, who Weil himself created. It may not be too far-fetched to think that Weil secretly programmed them to do that instead of killing him when he created them, because he knew that something like this could happen, wich would explain all of this. Another possible explanation is that the reploids DID want to kill Weil, but were too afraid to be labeled as Mavericks for disobeying orders and destroyed by X, so they didn't do so.]] That being said, this doesn't explain why the humans didn't kill Weil instead.]] \\



'''Instead''': He goes away without so much as a word, resulting in the need to replace him, forcing the higher ups to put a (unintentionally) psychotic KnightTemplar clone in charge.\\

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'''Instead''': He goes away without so much as a word, resulting in the need to replace him, forcing the higher ups higher-ups to put a (unintentionally) psychotic KnightTemplar clone in charge.\\






'''You'd expect''': Neo Arcadia would dispatch every available resource including and especially the Guardians to intercept Elpizo.\\

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'''You'd expect''': Neo Arcadia would dispatch every available resource resource, including and especially the Guardians Guardians, to intercept Elpizo.\\



* After Craft seemingly kills Dr. Weil with the Ragnarok Cannon in the fourth game's final levels, the heroes briefly think that everything's done and finished after taking down TheDragon since the cannon seems to of ceased functioning. Except the BigBad is still very much active, and was directly interfaced with and charging the cannon without absolutely anyone noticing.\\

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* After Craft seemingly kills Dr. Weil with the Ragnarok Cannon in the fourth game's final levels, the heroes briefly think that everything's done and finished after taking down TheDragon since the cannon seems to of have ceased functioning. Except the BigBad is still very much active, and was directly interfaced with and charging the cannon without absolutely anyone noticing.\\



'''Instead''': [[ExplainingYourPowerToTheEnemy He tells Zero about his special body]] in the midst of his mix of MotiveRant and [[SmugSnake mockery;]] he gets whooped, floats right back in to curse Zero, then fuses himself with the core of Ragnarok in a fit of megalomania and then [[TemptingFate dares him to cut down a]] [[AmbiguouslyHuman 'human']] out of a moment of FantasticRacism over the ThreeLawsCompliant concept (that Zero and Reploids in general do not follow) in a last ditch attempt to complete his ColonyDrop plan; [[HoistByHisOwnPetard he fails as this lets Zero destroy the core and defeat him simultaneously.]] [[PyrrhicVictory While this succeeds in killing Zero,]] it also results in Ragnarok breaking up in the atmosphere before it can harm anything and Weil himself [[AndIMustScream effectively trapped in the pieces of ruins and debris]] out of the sheer fact that he [[EvilCannotComprehendGood absolutely underestimated Zero.]] About the only justification Weil has for being this thoughtlessly reckless is that he's a potential DeathSeeker aiming to escape his immortality, but he still ruined his plans near-entirely.

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'''Instead''': [[ExplainingYourPowerToTheEnemy He tells Zero about his special body]] in the midst of his mix of MotiveRant and [[SmugSnake mockery;]] he gets whooped, floats right back in to curse Zero, then fuses himself with the core of Ragnarok in a fit of megalomania and then [[TemptingFate dares him to cut down a]] [[AmbiguouslyHuman 'human']] out of a moment of FantasticRacism over the ThreeLawsCompliant concept (that Zero and Reploids in general do not follow) in a last ditch last-ditch attempt to complete his ColonyDrop plan; [[HoistByHisOwnPetard he fails fails, as this lets Zero destroy the core and defeat him simultaneously.]] [[PyrrhicVictory While this succeeds in killing Zero,]] it also results in Ragnarok breaking up in the atmosphere before it can harm anything and Weil himself [[AndIMustScream effectively trapped in the pieces of ruins and debris]] out of the sheer fact that he [[EvilCannotComprehendGood absolutely underestimated Zero.]] About the only justification Weil has for being this thoughtlessly reckless is that he's a potential DeathSeeker aiming to escape his immortality, but he still ruined his plans near-entirely.
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'''Instead''': They obey X's exact words and punish Weil via a loophole, an escapable FateWorseThanDeath: they seal him in a capsule that prevents aging, but ''keeps'' his memory intact, so he can see how the world thrived despite his actions. Naturally, when some idiot decades later break the seal down, he becomes more monstrous and vengeful and eventually succeeds in [[TakeOverTheWorld taking over the world]] and make it so [[CrapsackWorld crapsack]] that it's worse than hell. [[spoiler: Later on, it's revealed that the people who decided to seal him away were the Eight Gentle Judges, who Weil himself created. It may not be too far-fetched to think that Weil secretly programmed them to do that instead of killing him when he created them, because he knew that something like this could happen, wich would explain all of this. Another possible explanation is that the reploids DID want to kill Weil, but were too afraid to be labeled as Mavericks for disobeying orders and destroyed by X, so they didn't do so. That being said, this doesn't explain why the humans didn't kill Weil instead.]] \\

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'''Instead''': They obey X's exact words and punish Weil via a loophole, an escapable FateWorseThanDeath: they seal him in a capsule that prevents aging, but ''keeps'' his memory intact, so he can see how the world thrived despite his actions. Naturally, when some idiot decades later break the seal down, he becomes more monstrous and vengeful and eventually succeeds in [[TakeOverTheWorld taking over the world]] and make it so [[CrapsackWorld crapsack]] that it's worse than hell. [[spoiler: [[JustifiedTrope Later on, it's revealed that the people who decided to seal him away were the Eight Gentle Judges, who Weil himself created. It may not be too far-fetched to think that Weil secretly programmed them to do that instead of killing him when he created them, because he knew that something like this could happen, wich would explain all of this. Another possible explanation is that the reploids DID want to kill Weil, but were too afraid to be labeled as Mavericks for disobeying orders and destroyed by X, so they didn't do so. ]] That being said, this doesn't explain why the humans didn't kill Weil instead.]] \\
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'''Instead''': They obey X's exact words and punish Weil via a loophole, an escapable FateWorseThanDeath: they seal him in a capsule that prevents aging, but ''keeps'' his memory intact, so he can see how the world thrived despite his actions. Naturally, when some idiot decades later break the seal down, he becomes more monstrous and vengeful and eventually succeeds in [[TakeOverTheWorld taking over the world]] and make it so [[CrapsackWorld crapsack]] that it's worse than hell.\\

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'''Instead''': They obey X's exact words and punish Weil via a loophole, an escapable FateWorseThanDeath: they seal him in a capsule that prevents aging, but ''keeps'' his memory intact, so he can see how the world thrived despite his actions. Naturally, when some idiot decades later break the seal down, he becomes more monstrous and vengeful and eventually succeeds in [[TakeOverTheWorld taking over the world]] and make it so [[CrapsackWorld crapsack]] that it's worse than hell. [[spoiler: Later on, it's revealed that the people who decided to seal him away were the Eight Gentle Judges, who Weil himself created. It may not be too far-fetched to think that Weil secretly programmed them to do that instead of killing him when he created them, because he knew that something like this could happen, wich would explain all of this. Another possible explanation is that the reploids DID want to kill Weil, but were too afraid to be labeled as Mavericks for disobeying orders and destroyed by X, so they didn't do so. That being said, this doesn't explain why the humans didn't kill Weil instead.]] \\

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