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* StrawCharacter: Luke takes this role from time to time, sharing the hatred for something the Sonic fandom also hates. This make his ButtMonkey status more noticeable. Subverted,however,[[StrawmanHasAPoint is that Luke also has some very good opinions that Roger agrees with.]]. It came to a point where he has to throw the script, because Roger made him said that he likes the [[SonicRiders Babylon Rogues]].

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* StrawCharacter: Luke takes this role from time to time, sharing the hatred for something the Sonic fandom also hates. This make his ButtMonkey status more noticeable. Subverted,however,[[StrawmanHasAPoint is that Luke also has some very good opinions that Roger agrees with.]]. It came to a point where he has to throw the script, because Roger made him said say that he likes the [[SonicRiders Babylon Rogues]].
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* CaptainObvious: The reason they didn't talk about Videogame/SonicTheHedgehog2006 for a long time, is that most of the problems were already talked about by other reviewers.And even then, it was pointless to complain. Roger compared this with a train competition, with the judges dissecting how the trains worked, but in the case of 2006, it would a train that is a giant mess that everyone can notice.

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* CaptainObvious: The reason they didn't talk about Videogame/SonicTheHedgehog2006 for a long time, is that most of the problems were already talked about by other reviewers.And even then, it was pointless to complain. Roger compared this with a train competition, with the judges dissecting how the trains worked, but in the case of 2006, it would be a train that is a giant mess that everyone can notice.
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* Chapter 2: Sonic, from zero to hero to Mary Sue... ero.: Roger and Luke talk about Sonic's {{flanderization}} into becoming a Mary Sue.

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* Chapter 2: Sonic, from zero to hero to Mary Sue... ero.: : Roger and Luke talk about Sonic's {{flanderization}} into becoming a Mary Sue.
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* Chapter 2: [[MarySue Sonic, from zero to hero to Mary Sue... ero.]]: Roger and Luke talk about Sonic {{flanderization}} into becoming a Mary Sue.

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* Chapter 2: [[MarySue 2: Sonic, from zero to hero to Mary Sue... ero.]]: : Roger and Luke talk about Sonic Sonic's {{flanderization}} into becoming a Mary Sue.

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* PacingProblems: Luke talk about this with the storytelling rules, and how Sonic Colors waste its time with bad jokes.

--> '''Luke: ‘‘‘ Storytelling lesson 1: Don’t waste my time!"

* TakeThat: They make fun of the ReviewsAreGospel mentality in the first episode.

--> '''Roger, with a annoying voice:''' "I heard some funny guy on Youtube make a joke about Sonic having too many characters and me, having no personality or basic thoughts on my own branlessly repeat what they said.”

--> '''Luke: ‘‘‘ That describes a good chunk of Youtube"

** In the same episode, there is an attack on [[NostalgiaFilter Genwunners]]

--> '''Roger, with a annoying voice:''' "I'm an elitist jerk who hasn't grown up since the 90's and demand the Sonic games never evolve beyond the Genesis games.”

--> '''Luke: ‘‘‘Bah, everything was better on my days when the NES was released!"

CausticCritic: Luke, being more prone to anger, and hating things like Sonic 06 and characters like Cream, Charmy and Big, is also the guy more prone to make fun of the fandom.
StrawCharacter: Luke take this role from time to time, sharing the hatred for something the Sonic fandom also hates. This make his ButtMonkey status more noticeable. Subverted,
however,[[StrawmanHasAPoint is that Luke also have some very good opinions that Roger agree with.]]. It came to a point where he has to throw the script, because Roger made him said that he likes the [[SonicRiders Babylon Rogues]].

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* PacingProblems: Luke talk about this with the storytelling rules, and how Sonic Colors waste its time with bad jokes.

--> '''Luke: ‘‘‘ Storytelling lesson 1: Don’t waste my time!"

* TakeThat: They make fun of the ReviewsAreGospel mentality in the first episode.

--> '''Roger, with a annoying voice:''' "I heard some funny guy on Youtube make a joke about Sonic having too many characters and me, having no personality or basic thoughts on my own branlessly repeat what they said.”

--> '''Luke: ‘‘‘ That describes a good chunk of Youtube"

** In the same episode, there is an attack on [[NostalgiaFilter Genwunners]]

--> '''Roger, with a annoying voice:''' "I'm an elitist jerk who hasn't grown up since the 90's and demand the Sonic games never evolve beyond the Genesis games.”

--> '''Luke: ‘‘‘Bah, everything was better on my days when the NES was released!"

CausticCritic: Luke, being more prone to anger, and hating things like Sonic 06 and characters like Cream, Charmy and Big, is also the guy more prone to make fun of the fandom.
StrawCharacter: Luke take this role from time to time, sharing the hatred for something the Sonic fandom also hates. This make his ButtMonkey status more noticeable. Subverted,
however,[[StrawmanHasAPoint is that Luke also have some very good opinions that Roger agree with.]]. It came to a point where he has to throw the script, because Roger made him said that he likes the [[SonicRiders Babylon Rogues]].









* CausticCritic: Luke, being more prone to anger, and hating things like [[Videogame/SonicTheHedgehog2006 Sonic 06]] and characters like Cream, Charmy and Big, is also the guy more prone to make fun of the fandom.



* PacingProblems: Luke talks about this with the storytelling rules, and how SonicColors wastes its time with bad jokes.

--> '''Luke''': Storytelling lesson 1: Don’t waste my time!



* RunningGag: Every time [[SonicTheHedgehog2006 Sonic 06]] is mentioned, Luke will start to rant about his quality. It came to a point where he needed a recording machine to do his rants.

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* RunningGag: Every time [[SonicTheHedgehog2006 Sonic 06]] is mentioned, Luke will start to rant about his it's quality. It came to a point where he needed a recording machine to do his rants.


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* StrawCharacter: Luke takes this role from time to time, sharing the hatred for something the Sonic fandom also hates. This make his ButtMonkey status more noticeable. Subverted,however,[[StrawmanHasAPoint is that Luke also has some very good opinions that Roger agrees with.]]. It came to a point where he has to throw the script, because Roger made him said that he likes the [[SonicRiders Babylon Rogues]].


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* TakeThat: They make fun of the ReviewsAreTheGospel mentality in the first episode.

--> '''Roger, with a annoying voice:''' I heard some funny guy on {{Youtube}} make a joke about Sonic having too many characters and me, having no personality or basic thoughts on my own, brainlessly repeat what they said.

--> '''Luke''':That describes a [[TakeThatAudience good chunk of Youtube]]

** In the same episode, there is an attack on [[NostalgiaFilter Genrunners]]

--> '''Roger, with a annoying voice:''' "I'm an elitist jerk who hasn't grown up since the 90's and demand that the Sonic games never evolve beyond the Genesis games.”

--> '''Luke''': Bah!,[[GrumpyOldMan everything was better in my day]] when the NES was released!"

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* {{Flanderization}}: Discussed. Roger gives the argument that Sonic was a more emotional character during the Adventure series, showing emotions like sadness, fear, being worried, surprised, among others. But in the newest games, Sonic's only personality trait is being [[TheAce “Cocky and in control”]]. Roger says that Sonic being always in control ruins the balance, and doesn't allow Eggman to have a moment of victory, making the whole conflict meaningless.

--> '''Roger''': Sonic get's down a few times, says a cocky one liner, and if earned, [[MomentOfAwesome is awesome]]. If Sonic is incredible from start to finish, then it's less “exciting adventures of Sonic The Hedgehog” and more like “Sonic The Asshole beats helpless robots down". Sonic needs to be scared every now and then to give a proper story momentum.

** He also makes the observation that in the newer games,every time Sonic is being shown wounded in battle, being in love, or sharing his feelings, is always with the [[OneShotCharacter character of the week, who doesn’t appear in later games]], [[DemotedToExtra and never with the main cast.]] If a villain even manages to defeat him, it's always through cheating, because the if the heavens don’t allow Sonic to be properly beaten and allow him to overcome danger, then the conflict is boring.

--> '''Luke''': [[SonicRiders So you are from the Babylon Rogues]], a tribe of people who travelled for several generations in becoming the ultimate Air Riders, and being your only purpose and goal in the entire world. Well, sucks to be you, Sonic never touched an Air Board before, randomly grabs one, and is as good as the champion of the world in 30 seconds!
-->[[SonicStorybookSeries You are one of the Knights of the Round Table]], you dedicated your life in becoming the perfect knight. Well, Sonic just stumbles in, waves vaguely with his sword for 5 minutes and immediately gives you lectures about how you could be a much better knight.

--> '''Sonic,to Sir Gawain''': "Is that the best that chivalry of yours can do?"

--> '''Roger''': Yeah Knuckles, you suck! Go to the corner! JESUS CHUCK NORRIS Sonic will save the day!

* LoadsAndLoadsOfCharacters: “The first ElephantInTheRoom” in the Sonic franchise. Roger believes this is the wrong complain, saying that is not that Sonic has too many characters, after all, other videogames franchises have even more characters, is that issues are more complex than simply that:

** When the game [[ButThouMust forces you to play]] [[ItsTheSameSoItsSucks the same levels with minor changes]], you will alienate the player. Luke names SonicHeroes.

** [[UnexpectedGameplayChange When the game abruptly changes its style to something different. Luke names [[SonicTheHedgehog2006 Sonic 06]] with this poor gimmick, with an image from the infamous ball level with Silver.

** The fandom reaction when their favorite character doesn’t appear or have enough screentime. Luke makes fun of them.

--> '''Luke:''' "Oh boo boo, Shadow was on the screen for 3 seconds!"

** “The Characters are badly written.”

** “The other characters are completely unnecesary within the story”. Roger discuss that Sonic [[{{Escapism}} is all about empowerment]], and as soon as you introduce a large cast, is no longer about empowerment, is about balance.

--> '''Roger:''' "Since the classic Sonic games, you had Sonic. Awesome, fast, more perfect, whatever. Then you add Tails. In order to give him a purpose in the story, then you need unique character elements. Tails is a smart, down to earth guy, likes technical stuff, then that means Sonic must lack at this element, so that means he's bad at techno stuff for his own good. If Sonic was also good at technology and also down to earth, then Tails would be pointless. Now add more characters, Knuckles and Amy, and you must add elements than Sonic and Tails have. Knuckles is a strong, noble savage, Amy is a social person. Balance. Every quality Sonic friends have, is a flaw Sonic should have”

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* {{Flanderization}}: Discussed. Roger gives the argument that Sonic was a more emotional character during the Adventure series, showing emotions like sadness, fear, being worried, surprised, among others. But in the newest games, Sonic's only personality trait is being [[TheAce “Cocky and in control”]]. Roger says that Sonic being always in control ruins the balance, and doesn't allow Eggman to have a moment of victory, making the whole conflict meaningless.

--> '''Roger''': Sonic get's down a few times, says a cocky one liner, and if earned, [[MomentOfAwesome is awesome]]. If Sonic is incredible from start to finish, then it's less “exciting adventures of Sonic The Hedgehog” and more like “Sonic The Asshole beats helpless robots down". Sonic needs to be scared every now and then to give a proper story momentum.

** He also makes the observation that in the newer games,every time Sonic is being shown wounded in battle, being in love, or sharing his feelings, is always with the [[OneShotCharacter character of the week, who doesn’t appear in later games]], [[DemotedToExtra and never with the main cast.]] If a villain even manages to defeat him, it's always through cheating, because the if the heavens don’t allow Sonic to be properly beaten and allow him to overcome danger, then the conflict is boring.

--> '''Luke''': [[SonicRiders So you are from the Babylon Rogues]], a tribe of people who travelled for several generations in becoming the ultimate Air Riders, and being your only purpose and goal in the entire world. Well, sucks to be you, Sonic never touched an Air Board before, randomly grabs one, and is as good as the champion of the world in 30 seconds!
-->[[SonicStorybookSeries You are one of the Knights of the Round Table]], you dedicated your life in becoming the perfect knight. Well, Sonic just stumbles in, waves vaguely with his sword for 5 minutes and immediately gives you lectures about how you could be a much better knight.

--> '''Sonic,to Sir Gawain''': "Is that the best that chivalry of yours can do?"

--> '''Roger''': Yeah Knuckles, you suck! Go to the corner! JESUS CHUCK NORRIS Sonic will save the day!

* LoadsAndLoadsOfCharacters: “The first ElephantInTheRoom” in the Sonic franchise. Roger believes this is the wrong complain, saying that is not that Sonic has too many characters, after all, other videogames franchises have even more characters, is that issues are more complex than simply that:

** When the game [[ButThouMust forces you to play]] [[ItsTheSameSoItsSucks the same levels with minor changes]], you will alienate the player. Luke names SonicHeroes.

** [[UnexpectedGameplayChange When the game abruptly changes its style to something different. Luke names [[SonicTheHedgehog2006 Sonic 06]] with this poor gimmick, with an image from the infamous ball level with Silver.

** The fandom reaction when their favorite character doesn’t appear or have enough screentime. Luke makes fun of them.

--> '''Luke:''' "Oh boo boo, Shadow was on the screen for 3 seconds!"

** “The Characters are badly written.”

** “The other characters are completely unnecesary within the story”. Roger discuss that Sonic [[{{Escapism}} is all about empowerment]], and as soon as you introduce a large cast, is no longer about empowerment, is about balance.

--> '''Roger:''' "Since the classic Sonic games, you had Sonic. Awesome, fast, more perfect, whatever. Then you add Tails. In order to give him a purpose in the story, then you need unique character elements. Tails is a smart, down to earth guy, likes technical stuff, then that means Sonic must lack at this element, so that means he's bad at techno stuff for his own good. If Sonic was also good at technology and also down to earth, then Tails would be pointless. Now add more characters, Knuckles and Amy, and you must add elements than Sonic and Tails have. Knuckles is a strong, noble savage, Amy is a social person. Balance. Every quality Sonic friends have, is a flaw Sonic should have”





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* {{Flanderization}}: Discussed. Roger gives the argument that Sonic was a more emotional character during the Adventure series, showing emotions like sadness, fear, being worried, surprised, among others. But in the newest games, Sonic's only personality trait is being [[TheAce “Cocky and in control”]]. Roger says that Sonic being always in control ruins the balance, and doesn't allow Eggman to have a moment of victory, making the whole conflict meaningless.

--> '''Roger''': Sonic get's down a few times, says a cocky one liner, and if earned, [[MomentOfAwesome is awesome]]. If Sonic is incredible from start to finish, then it's less “exciting adventures of Sonic The Hedgehog” and more like “Sonic The Asshole beats helpless robots down". Sonic needs to be scared every now and then to give a proper story momentum.

** He also makes the observation that in the newer games,every time Sonic is being shown wounded in battle, being in love, or sharing his feelings, is always with the [[OneShotCharacter character of the week, who doesn’t appear in later games]], [[DemotedToExtra and never with the main cast.]] If a villain even manages to defeat him, it's always through cheating, because the if the heavens don’t allow Sonic to be properly beaten and allow him to overcome danger, then the conflict is boring.

--> '''Luke''': [[SonicRiders So you are from the Babylon Rogues]], a tribe of people who travelled for several generations in becoming the ultimate Air Riders, and being your only purpose and goal in the entire world. Well, sucks to be you, Sonic never touched an Air Board before, randomly grabs one, and is as good as the champion of the world in 30 seconds!
-->[[SonicStorybookSeries You are one of the Knights of the Round Table]], you dedicated your life in becoming the perfect knight. Well, Sonic just stumbles in, waves vaguely with his sword for 5 minutes and immediately gives you lectures about how you could be a much better knight.

--> '''Sonic,to Sir Gawain''': "Is that the best that chivalry of yours can do?"

--> '''Roger''': Yeah Knuckles, you suck! Go in the corner! {{JESUS}} {{CHUCK NORRIS}} [[SonictheHedgehog SONIC]] will save the day!


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* LoadsAndLoadsOfCharacters: “The first ElephantInTheRoom” in the Sonic franchise. Roger believes this is the wrong complaint, saying that it is not that Sonic has too many characters. After all, other videogames franchises have even more characters.It's issues are more complex than simply that:

** When the game [[ButThouMust forces you to play]] [[ItsTheSameSoItSucks the same levels with minor changes]], you will alienate the player. Luke names SonicHeroes.

** [[UnexpectedGameplayChange When the game abruptly changes its style]] to something different. Luke names [[SonicTheHedgehog2006 Sonic 06]] with this poor gimmick, with an image from the infamous ball level with Silver.

** The fandom reaction when their favorite character doesn’t appear or have enough screentime. [[TakeThatAudience Luke makes fun of them]].

--> '''Luke:''' "Oh boo boo, Shadow was on the screen for 3 seconds!"

** The Characters are badly written.

** The other characters are completely unnecessary within the story”. Roger discuss that Sonic [[{{Escapism}} is all about empowerment]], and as soon as you introduce a large cast, it's no longer about empowerment, it's about balance.

--> '''Roger:''' "Since the classic Sonic games, you had Sonic. Awesome, fast, more perfect, whatever. Then you add Tails,in order to give him a purpose in the story, then you need unique character elements. Tails is a smart, down to earth guy, likes technical stuff, then that means Sonic must lack at this element. So that means he's bad at techno stuff for his own good. If Sonic was also good at technology and also down to earth, then Tails would be pointless. Now add more characters, Knuckles and Amy, and you must add elements that Sonic and Tails have. Knuckles is a strong, noble savage, Amy is a social person. Balance. Every quality Sonic's friends have, is a flaw Sonic should have."

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* Chapter 1: Too many characters is the wrong complain.

* Chapter 2: [[MarySue Sonic, from zero to hero to Mary Sue... ero.]]: Roger and Luke talk about Sonic flanderization into becoming a Mary Sue.

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* Chapter 1: Too many characters is the wrong complain.

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* Chapter 2: [[MarySue Sonic, from zero to hero to Mary Sue... ero.]]: Roger and Luke talk about Sonic flanderization {{flanderization}} into becoming a Mary Sue.



* RunningGag: Everytime [[SonicTheHedgehog2006 Sonic 06]] is mentioned, Luke will start to rant about his quality. It came to a point where he needed a recording machine to do his rants.

* LighterAndSofter: Discussed. Roger nicknamed the era starting from SonicUnleashed to SonicGenerations as “Adventures of Sonic the talking squirrel”, saying that while the gameplay is fine, they recall the plot as “Dumb Cartoon stories”

* Flanderization: Discussed. Roger gives the argument that Sonic was a more emotional character during the Adventure series, showing emotions like sadness, fear, being worried, surprise, among others, but in the newest games, Sonic only personality trait is being [[TheAce “Cocky and in control”]]. Roger says that Sonic being always in control ruins the balance, and don’t allow Eggman to have a momento of victory, making the whole conflict meaningless.

--> '''Roger'”: “Sonic get down a few times, says a cocky one liner, and is earned, [[MomentOfAwesome is awesome]]. If Sonic is incredible from start to finish is less “exciting adventures of Sonic The Hedgehog” and more like “Sonic The Asshole beats helpless robots down. Sonic needs to be scared every now and then to make a proper story momentum,"

** He also makes the observation that, in the newer games, everytime Sonic is being show wounded in battle, being in love, or sharing his feelings, is always with the [[OneShotCharacter character of the week, who doesn’t appear in later games]], [[DemotedToExtra and never with the main cast.]] If a villain even manages to defeat him, is always through cheating, because heavens don’t allow Sonic to be properly beaten and allow him to overcome danger, then the conflict is boring.

--> '''Luke”: “ [[SonicRiders So you are from the Babylon Rogues]], a tribe of people who traveled for several generations in becoming the ultímate air riders, and being your only purpose and goal in the entire world. Well, sucks to be you, Sonic never touched an air board before, ramdonly grabs one, and is as good as the champion of the world in 30 seconds! [[SonicStorybookSeries You are one of the Knights of the round table, you dedicated your life in becoming the perfect knight. Well, Sonic just stumbles in, waves vaguely with his sword for 5 minutes and inmediatly gives you lectures about how you could be a much better knight.

--> ''Sonic, to Sir Gawain: ‘‘‘Is that the best that chivalry of yours can do?"

--> ''Roger: ‘‘‘Yeah Knuckles, you suck! Go to the corner! JESUS CHUCK NORRIS Sonic will save the day!"

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* RunningGag: Everytime [[SonicTheHedgehog2006 Sonic 06]] is mentioned, Luke will start to rant about his quality. It came to a point where he needed a recording machine to do his rants.

* LighterAndSofter: Discussed. Roger nicknamed the era starting from SonicUnleashed to SonicGenerations as “Adventures of Sonic the talking squirrel”, saying that while the gameplay is fine, they recall the plot as “Dumb Cartoon stories”

* Flanderization:




*{{Flanderization}}:
Discussed. Roger gives the argument that Sonic was a more emotional character during the Adventure series, showing emotions like sadness, fear, being worried, surprise, surprised, among others, but others. But in the newest games, Sonic Sonic's only personality trait is being [[TheAce “Cocky and in control”]]. Roger says that Sonic being always in control ruins the balance, and don’t doesn't allow Eggman to have a momento moment of victory, making the whole conflict meaningless.

--> '''Roger'”: “Sonic get '''Roger''': Sonic get's down a few times, says a cocky one liner, and is if earned, [[MomentOfAwesome is awesome]]. If Sonic is incredible from start to finish is finish, then it's less “exciting adventures of Sonic The Hedgehog” and more like “Sonic The Asshole beats helpless robots down. down". Sonic needs to be scared every now and then to make give a proper story momentum,"

momentum.

** He also makes the observation that, that in the newer games, everytime games,every time Sonic is being show shown wounded in battle, being in love, or sharing his feelings, is always with the [[OneShotCharacter character of the week, who doesn’t appear in later games]], [[DemotedToExtra and never with the main cast.]] If a villain even manages to defeat him, is it's always through cheating, because the if the heavens don’t allow Sonic to be properly beaten and allow him to overcome danger, then the conflict is boring.

--> '''Luke”: “ '''Luke''': [[SonicRiders So you are from the Babylon Rogues]], a tribe of people who traveled travelled for several generations in becoming the ultímate air riders, ultimate Air Riders, and being your only purpose and goal in the entire world. Well, sucks to be you, Sonic never touched an air board Air Board before, ramdonly randomly grabs one, and is as good as the champion of the world in 30 seconds! [[SonicStorybookSeries seconds!
-->[[SonicStorybookSeries
You are one of the Knights of the round table, Round Table]], you dedicated your life in becoming the perfect knight. Well, Sonic just stumbles in, waves vaguely with his sword for 5 minutes and inmediatly immediately gives you lectures about how you could be a much better knight.

--> ''Sonic, to '''Sonic,to Sir Gawain: ‘‘‘Is Gawain''': "Is that the best that chivalry of yours can do?"

--> ''Roger: ‘‘‘Yeah '''Roger''': Yeah Knuckles, you suck! Go to the corner! JESUS CHUCK NORRIS Sonic will save the day!"
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* LighterAndSofter: Discussed. Roger nicknamed the era starting from Videogame/SonicUnleashed to SonicGenerations as “Adventures of Sonic the talking squirrel”, saying that while the gameplay is fine, they recall the plot as “Dumb Cartoon stories”


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* RunningGag: Every time [[SonicTheHedgehog2006 Sonic 06]] is mentioned, Luke will start to rant about his quality. It came to a point where he needed a recording machine to do his rants.
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The videos were originally labeled as episodes 1 and 2, with a series of chapters, but now their episodes are more specific, talking about a certain theme. Here is a list of themes they have talked so far.

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[[folder: Episodes 1 to 12]]

!!Episode 1:

* Chapter 1: Too many characters is the wrong complain.

* Chapter 2: [[MarySue Sonic, from zero to hero to Mary Sue... ero.]]: Roger and Luke talk about Sonic flanderization into becoming a Mary Sue.

* Chapter 3: Colorful exposition: They talk about storytelling rules, and how the franchise follows it.

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*RunningGag: Everytime [[SonicTheHedgehog2006 Sonic 06]] is mentioned, Luke will start to rant about his quality. It came to a point where he needed a recording machine to do his rants.

*LighterAndSofter: Discussed. Roger nicknamed the era starting from SonicUnleashed to SonicGenerations as “Adventures of Sonic the talking squirrel”, saying that while the gameplay is fine, they recall the plot as “Dumb Cartoon stories”

* Flanderization: Discussed. Roger gives the argument that Sonic was a more emotional character during the Adventure series, showing emotions like sadness, fear, being worried, surprise, among others, but in the newest games, Sonic only personality trait is being [[TheAce “Cocky and in control”]]. Roger says that Sonic being always in control ruins the balance, and don’t allow Eggman to have a momento of victory, making the whole conflict meaningless.

--> '''Roger'”: “Sonic get down a few times, says a cocky one liner, and is earned, [[MomentOfAwesome is awesome]]. If Sonic is incredible from start to finish is less “exciting adventures of Sonic The Hedgehog” and more like “Sonic The Asshole beats helpless robots down. Sonic needs to be scared every now and then to make a proper story momentum,"

** He also makes the observation that, in the newer games, everytime Sonic is being show wounded in battle, being in love, or sharing his feelings, is always with the [[OneShotCharacter character of the week, who doesn’t appear in later games]], [[DemotedToExtra and never with the main cast.]] If a villain even manages to defeat him, is always through cheating, because heavens don’t allow Sonic to be properly beaten and allow him to overcome danger, then the conflict is boring.

--> '''Luke”: “ [[SonicRiders So you are from the Babylon Rogues]], a tribe of people who traveled for several generations in becoming the ultímate air riders, and being your only purpose and goal in the entire world. Well, sucks to be you, Sonic never touched an air board before, ramdonly grabs one, and is as good as the champion of the world in 30 seconds! [[SonicStorybookSeries You are one of the Knights of the round table, you dedicated your life in becoming the perfect knight. Well, Sonic just stumbles in, waves vaguely with his sword for 5 minutes and inmediatly gives you lectures about how you could be a much better knight.

--> ''Sonic, to Sir Gawain: ‘‘‘Is that the best that chivalry of yours can do?"

--> ''Roger: ‘‘‘Yeah Knuckles, you suck! Go to the corner! JESUS CHUCK NORRIS Sonic will save the day!"

*LoadsAndLoadsOfCharacters: “The first ElephantInTheRoom” in the Sonic franchise. Roger believes this is the wrong complain, saying that is not that Sonic has too many characters, after all, other videogames franchises have even more characters, is that issues are more complex than simply that:

** When the game [[ButThouMust forces you to play]] [[ItsTheSameSoItsSucks the same levels with minor changes]], you will alienate the player. Luke names SonicHeroes.

** [[UnexpectedGameplayChange When the game abruptly changes its style to something different. Luke names [[SonicTheHedgehog2006 Sonic 06]] with this poor gimmick, with an image from the infamous ball level with Silver.

** The fandom reaction when their favorite character doesn’t appear or have enough screentime. Luke makes fun of them.

--> '''Luke:''' "Oh boo boo, Shadow was on the screen for 3 seconds!"

** “The Characters are badly written.”

** “The other characters are completely unnecesary within the story”. Roger discuss that Sonic [[{{Escapism}} is all about empowerment]], and as soon as you introduce a large cast, is no longer about empowerment, is about balance.

--> '''Roger:''' "Since the classic Sonic games, you had Sonic. Awesome, fast, more perfect, whatever. Then you add Tails. In order to give him a purpose in the story, then you need unique character elements. Tails is a smart, down to earth guy, likes technical stuff, then that means Sonic must lack at this element, so that means he's bad at techno stuff for his own good. If Sonic was also good at technology and also down to earth, then Tails would be pointless. Now add more characters, Knuckles and Amy, and you must add elements than Sonic and Tails have. Knuckles is a strong, noble savage, Amy is a social person. Balance. Every quality Sonic friends have, is a flaw Sonic should have”

*PacingProblems: Luke talk about this with the storytelling rules, and how Sonic Colors waste its time with bad jokes.

--> '''Luke: ‘‘‘ Storytelling lesson 1: Don’t waste my time!"

*TakeThat: They make fun of the ReviewsAreGospel mentality in the first episode.

--> '''Roger, with a annoying voice:''' "I heard some funny guy on Youtube make a joke about Sonic having too many characters and me, having no personality or basic thoughts on my own branlessly repeat what they said.”

--> '''Luke: ‘‘‘ That describes a good chunk of Youtube"

** In the same episode, there is an attack on [[NostalgiaFilter Genwunners]]

--> '''Roger, with a annoying voice:''' "I'm an elitist jerk who hasn't grown up since the 90's and demand the Sonic games never evolve beyond the Genesis games.”

--> '''Luke: ‘‘‘Bah, everything was better on my days when the NES was released!"

CausticCritic: Luke, being more prone to anger, and hating things like Sonic 06 and characters like Cream, Charmy and Big, is also the guy more prone to make fun of the fandom.
StrawCharacter: Luke take this role from time to time, sharing the hatred for something the Sonic fandom also hates. This make his ButtMonkey status more noticeable. Subverted,
however,[[StrawmanHasAPoint is that Luke also have some very good opinions that Roger agree with.]]. It came to a point where he has to throw the script, because Roger made him said that he likes the [[SonicRiders Babylon Rogues]].
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* EarlyInstallmentWeirdness: The Earlier episodes have Luke & Roger in a dark room and they both wear smoking jackets. Luke was even shown with a pipe. Then later on they are shown sitting outside a Royal Institute wearing the outfits they have now.

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* AcceptableTargets: Videogame/SonicColors and the modern writers, Ken Pontac and Warren Graff. Roger has issues with them.
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* AbortedArc: Luke mentions how Videogame/SonicColors brings subplots, only to make nothing out of them, and waste his time.
* AcceptableTargets: Videogame/SonicColors and the modern writers, Ken Pontac and Warren Graff. Roger has issues with them.


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* CaptainObvious: The reason they didn't talk about Videogame/SonicTheHedgehog2006 for a long time, is that most of the problems were already talked about by other reviewers.And even then, it was pointless to complain. Roger compared this with a train competition, with the judges dissecting how the trains worked, but in the case of 2006, it would a train that is a giant mess that everyone can notice.
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* NotThatKindOfDoctor: Frobman is probably this as he performs unprofessional surgery on Luke using a Dagger. Apparantly he is filling in for his brother..who’s a Dentist.

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* NotThatKindOfDoctor: Frobman is probably this as he performs unprofessional surgery on Luke using a Dagger. Apparantly he is filling in for his brother..who’s a Dentist.[[OpenHeartDentistry Dentist]].
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* {{YMMV}}: How Roger & Luke just wanted you to see and better understand the Sonic Games and how to interpret them in a different way. The relationships between the characters, how the level design relate to the character used. Roger’s latest video shows you that {{Sonic Boom}} might be more cleverly written than it actually is, and that Knuckles serves as the {{class clown}} rather than the {{dumb muscle}}. Luke, Roger and even the various Guests would discuss and share opinions and arguments on various games like {{Nintendo}} Vs. {{Sega}}, Videogame/SonicAdventure2, Videogame/SonicLostWorld and Videogame/SonicStorybookSeries.

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* TrialAndErrorGameplay: Discussed by Luke, Roger & Theory when they were talking about VideoGame/{{SonicUnleashed}}’s level design.

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Sonic Dissected is a web series that takes an analytic look at the {{Sonic the Hedgehog}} franchise, be it the games, animations or anything Sonic related that gets announced, (like {{Sonic Boom}}) and discusses them about its narrative, it’s flaws, its characters and gameplay and how we can improve them and see these games and characters from another point of view. The Sonic series can be quite controversial and are not there to just criticize the games or its audience. They just want to give you a better and deeper understanding of the games from a narrative perspective as well as to inform and educate you about them.

The series was launched in 2012, created and hosted by Roger Weide (of Sonic in Minutes, {{Kingdumb Hearts}} and I.M.P fame) and co-hosted by Luke the Fox (real name Luke Wholey), A British Sonic fancharacter who also voices in some of Roger’s animations. They also have a third guy, Captain Theory (voiced by Salacommander) who would sometimes pop in and explain a hypothesis on why certain things in Sonic work that way or why Sega/Sonic Team have done it.

Over the series they have discussed various games, its characters, had random guests that want to say their piece on certain Sonic Games and Roger has also done various Dissections on games such as {{Shenmue}} and {{Megaman}}.

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Sonic Dissected is a web series that takes an analytic look at the {{Sonic the Hedgehog}} Franchise/SonicTheHedgehog franchise, be it the games, animations or anything Sonic related that gets announced, (like {{Sonic Boom}}) and discusses them about its narrative, it’s flaws, its characters and gameplay and how we can improve them and see these games and characters from another point of view. The Sonic series can be quite controversial and are not there to just criticize the games or its audience. They just want to give you a better and deeper understanding of the games from a narrative perspective as well as to inform and educate you about them.

The series was launched in 2012, created and hosted by Roger Weide (of Sonic in Minutes, {{Kingdumb Hearts}} WebAnimation/KingdumbHearts and I.M.P fame) and co-hosted by Luke the Fox (real name Luke Wholey), A British Sonic fancharacter who also voices in some of Roger’s animations. They also have a third guy, Captain Theory (voiced by Salacommander) who would sometimes pop in and explain a hypothesis on why certain things in Sonic work that way or why Sega/Sonic Team have done it.

Over the series they have discussed various games, its characters, had random guests that want to say their piece on certain Sonic Games and Roger has also done various Dissections on games such as {{Shenmue}} VideoGame/{{Shenmue}} and {{Megaman}}.VideoGame/{{Megaman}}.



* {{Accidental Misnaming}}: Luke once called Captain Theory ‘Captain H’ due to the H emblem on his chest, not aware that it stands for Hypothesis, another word for Theory.
* {{AlcoholHic}}: Luke becomes very drunk during the ‘Things..Dissected’ episode, but still manages to act like himself..apart from the swearing & vomiting.
* {{Alternate character Interpretation}}: Roger & Luke compare & contrast the various versions of Sonic & friends and how their personalities keep changing in each game.

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* {{Accidental Misnaming}}: AccidentalMisnaming: Luke once called Captain Theory ‘Captain H’ due to the H emblem on his chest, not aware that it stands for Hypothesis, another word for Theory.
* {{AlcoholHic}}: AlcoholHic: Luke becomes very drunk during the ‘Things..Dissected’ episode, but still manages to act like himself..apart from the swearing & vomiting.
* {{Alternate character Interpretation}}: [[invoked]]AlternateCharacterInterpretation: Roger & Luke compare & contrast the various versions of Sonic & friends and how their personalities keep changing in each game.



* {{Applicability}}: How Roger & Luke just wanted you to see and better understand the Sonic Games and how to interpret them in a different way. The relationships between the characters, how the level design relate to the character used. Roger’s latest video shows you that {{Sonic Boom}} might be more cleverly written than it actually is, and that Knuckles serves as the {{Class Clown}} rather than the {{Dumb Muscle}}.
* {{Badass Beard}}: Roger has one which goes well with his ‘badass expression’ when talking about something epic related in a {{Sonic}} Game.
* {{Berserk Button}}: Luke nearly loses it in episode 2 over the cartoon sound effects used in {{Sonic Unleashed}}.

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* {{Applicability}}: How Roger & Luke just wanted you to see and better understand the Sonic Games and how to interpret them in a different way. The relationships between the characters, how the level design relate to the character used. Roger’s latest video shows you that {{Sonic Boom}} might be more cleverly written than it actually is, and that Knuckles serves as the {{Class Clown}} {{class clown}} rather than the {{Dumb Muscle}}.
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* {{Badass Beard}}: BadassBeard: Roger has one which goes well with his ‘badass expression’ when talking about something epic related in a {{Sonic}} Franchise/{{Sonic|TheHedgehog}} Game.
* {{Berserk Button}}: BerserkButton: Luke nearly loses it in episode 2 over the cartoon sound effects used in {{Sonic Unleashed}}.VideoGame/SonicUnleashed.



* {{Catapult Nightmare}}: In episode 8, Roger dreams about the announcement of [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/VideoGame/SonicLostWorld Sonic Lost World]] and woke up reacting to Lost Hex.

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* {{Catapult Nightmare}}: CatapultNightmare: In episode 8, Roger dreams about the announcement of [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/VideoGame/SonicLostWorld Sonic Lost World]] VideoGame/SonicLostWorld and woke up reacting to Lost Hex.



* {{Civilized Animal}}: Luke The Fox.
* {{Dont Explain the Joke}}: Pointed out when discussing the humor of certain games. However Roger points out that some jokes do need some sort of explanation.
* {{Early Installment Weirdness}}: The Earlier episodes have Luke & Roger in a dark room and they both wear smoking jackets. Luke was even shown with a pipe. Then later on they are shown sitting outside a Royal Institute wearing the outfits they have now.
* {{Feeling their age}}: In the ‘Sonic is dead’ video. Luke & Roger compare {{Sonic Boom}} to the Old Age stage in life, where the characters just act like old people and would feel like Sonic & co are caring for old people in a home. This seems evident in the episode ‘Hedgehog Day’ where Eggman would experience the same day over and over and Knuckles experiencing back problems.
* {{Gentleman and a Scholar}}: Both Roger and Luke resemble very sophisticated Highbrow Gentleman..that like to talk about Sonic Games.
* {{Gentleman Snarker}}: Roger & Luke would sometimes do this to one another on occasion.
* {{Hatedom}}/{{Broken Base}}: Roger’s ‘Merry little hat club’ on a Sonic Stadium forum that became more respective of the series once Roger explained himself on the thread. There are also people who dislike Roger’s criticisms and feel that he is just nitpicking on the games.
* {{Humiliation Conga}}: In the Episode, ‘Unleashed again’ [[spoiler:Luke gets struck by lightning and by the end of the episode an Ambulance falls on him.]]
* {{Malicious Misnaming}}/{{In Universe Nickname}}: At one point Captain Theory called Luke ‘British Tails’. But Luke doesn’t mind as he is supposed to represent the Sonic fans who depict themselves as Sonic characters (I.E 'x the Hedgehog')
* {{Never Bareheaded}}: Outside of Dissected, you rarely see an episode with Luke, Roger & Cpt. Theory without their hats.
* {{Nice Hat}}: Both Roger and Luke, as well as Captain Theory wear very nice Top Hats to fit their classy look. Even Guest Speaker Frobman wore a [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RuleOfCool Fez.]]
* {{Not that kind of Doctor}}/{{Open Heart Dentistry}}: Frobman is probably this as he performs unprofessional surgery on Luke using a Dagger. Apparantly he is filling in for his brother..who’s a Dentist.
* {{Quintessential British Gentleman}}: Luke is basically this. The theme of Dissected is set in a charming stereotypical British setting with the Hosts & Guests dressed in early 1900 outfits.
* {{Real Life writes the plot}}: When something Sonic related is announced, you’ll know a Dissected video will shortly follow.
* {{Sick Episode}}: There is an arc where the episodes are set in a Hospital ward due to Luke’s accident in ‘Unleashed again’
* {{Slasher Smile}}: Guest Speaker Steph sports this as she slowly walks over to Roger holding a knife in 'Pontac & Graff Bingo'.
* {{Stiff Upper lip}}: Luke & Roger would do this when talking about Sonic, usually {{played for laughs}}. Luke even said it to Roger in one episode.
* {{Superheroes wear capes}}: Captain Theory
* {{The Cameo}}/{{Special Guest}}: A random guest would sometimes pop in to say their piece on a certain Sonic Game,Or someone to fill in for Luke to talk about other games and subjects with Roger.
* {{The Professor}}: Both Roger & Luke act as Professors in the Studies of {{Sonic the Hedgehog.}} As the main host, Roger gives us the most information and his own views on the franchise.
* {{Trial and Error Gameplay}}: Discussed by Luke, Roger & Theory when they were talking about {{Sonic Unleashed}}’s level design.
* {{Unusually Uninteresting Sight}}: Throughout the series, the Royal Institute suddenly burns down, gets run over by Tanks and then is rebuilt as Royal Institute 2.0, which neither Roger or Luke notice about.
* [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/YMMV/HomePage Your Milage May Vary]]: Luke, Roger and even the various Guests would discuss and share opinions and arguments on various games like {{Nintendo}} Vs. {{Sega}},{{Sonic Adventure 2}},[[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/VideoGame/SonicLostWorld Sonic Lost World]] and [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/VideoGame/SonicStorybookSeries the Storybook games.]]

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* {{Civilized Animal}}: CivilizedAnimal: Luke The Fox.
* {{Dont Explain the Joke}}: DontExplainTheJoke: Pointed out when discussing the humor of certain games. However Roger points out that some jokes do need some sort of explanation.
* {{Early Installment Weirdness}}: EarlyInstallmentWeirdness: The Earlier episodes have Luke & Roger in a dark room and they both wear smoking jackets. Luke was even shown with a pipe. Then later on they are shown sitting outside a Royal Institute wearing the outfits they have now.
* {{Feeling their age}}: FeelingTheirAge: In the ‘Sonic is dead’ video. Luke & Roger compare {{Sonic Boom}} SonicBoom to the Old Age stage in life, where the characters just act like old people and would feel like Sonic & co are caring for old people in a home. This seems evident in the episode ‘Hedgehog Day’ where Eggman would experience the same day over and over and Knuckles experiencing back problems.
* {{Gentleman and a Scholar}}: GentlemanAndAScholar: Both Roger and Luke resemble very sophisticated Highbrow Gentleman..that like to talk about Sonic Games.
* {{Gentleman Snarker}}: GentlemanSnarker: Roger & Luke would sometimes do this to one another on occasion.
* {{Hatedom}}/{{Broken Base}}: Roger’s ‘Merry little hat club’ on a Sonic Stadium forum that became more respective of the series once Roger explained himself on the thread. There are also people who dislike Roger’s criticisms and feel that he is just nitpicking on the games.
* {{Humiliation Conga}}:
HumiliationConga: In the Episode, ‘Unleashed again’ [[spoiler:Luke gets struck by lightning and by the end of the episode an Ambulance falls on him.]]
* {{Malicious Misnaming}}/{{In Universe Nickname}}: InUniverseNickname: At one point Captain Theory called Luke ‘British Tails’. But Luke doesn’t mind as he is supposed to represent the Sonic fans who depict themselves as Sonic characters (I.E 'x the Hedgehog')
* {{Never Bareheaded}}: NeverBareheaded: Outside of Dissected, you rarely see an episode with Luke, Roger & Cpt. Theory without their hats.
* {{Nice Hat}}: NiceHat: Both Roger and Luke, as well as Captain Theory wear very nice Top Hats to fit their classy look. Even Guest Speaker Frobman wore a [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RuleOfCool [[RuleOfCool Fez.]]
* {{Not that kind of Doctor}}/{{Open Heart Dentistry}}: NotThatKindOfDoctor: Frobman is probably this as he performs unprofessional surgery on Luke using a Dagger. Apparantly he is filling in for his brother..who’s a Dentist.
* {{Quintessential British Gentleman}}: TheProfessor: Both Roger & Luke act as Professors in the Studies of Franchise/SonicTheHedgehog. As the main host, Roger gives us the most information and his own views on the franchise.
* QuintessentialBritishGentleman:
Luke is basically this. The theme of Dissected is set in a charming stereotypical British setting with the Hosts & Guests dressed in early 1900 outfits.
* {{Real Life writes the plot}}: RealLifeWritesThePlot: When something Sonic related is announced, you’ll know a Dissected video will shortly follow.
* {{Sick Episode}}: SickEpisode: There is an arc where the episodes are set in a Hospital ward due to Luke’s accident in ‘Unleashed again’
* {{Slasher Smile}}: SlasherSmile: Guest Speaker Steph sports this as she slowly walks over to Roger holding a knife in 'Pontac & Graff Bingo'.
* {{Stiff Upper lip}}: StiffUpperLip: Luke & Roger would do this when talking about Sonic, usually {{played for laughs}}. Luke even said it to Roger in one episode.
* {{Superheroes wear capes}}: SuperheroesWearCapes: Captain Theory
* {{The Cameo}}/{{Special Guest}}: SpecialGuest: A random guest would sometimes pop in to say their piece on a certain Sonic Game,Or someone to fill in for Luke to talk about other games and subjects with Roger.
* {{The Professor}}: Both Roger & Luke act as Professors in the Studies of {{Sonic the Hedgehog.}} As the main host, Roger gives us the most information and his own views on the franchise.
* {{Trial and Error Gameplay}}:
TrialAndErrorGameplay: Discussed by Luke, Roger & Theory when they were talking about {{Sonic Unleashed}}’s VideoGame/{{SonicUnleashed}}’s level design.
* {{Unusually Uninteresting Sight}}: UnusuallyUninterestingSight: Throughout the series, the Royal Institute suddenly burns down, gets run over by Tanks and then is rebuilt as Royal Institute 2.0, which neither Roger or Luke notice about.
* [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/YMMV/HomePage Your Milage May Vary]]: Luke, Roger and even the various Guests would discuss and share opinions and arguments on various games like {{Nintendo}} Vs. {{Sega}},{{Sonic Adventure 2}},[[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/VideoGame/SonicLostWorld Sonic Lost World]] and [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/VideoGame/SonicStorybookSeries the Storybook games.]] ----
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* {{Sick Episode}}: There is an arc where the episodes are set in a Hospital ward due to Luke’s accident in ‘Unleashed again’
* {{Slasher Smile}}: Guest Speaker Steph sports this as she slowly walks over to Roger holding a knife in 'Pontac & Graff Bingo'.
* {{Stiff Upper lip}}: Luke & Roger would do this when talking about Sonic, usually {{played for laughs}}. Luke even said it to Roger in one episode.
* {{Superheroes wear capes}}: Captain Theory
* {{The Cameo}}/{{Special Guest}}: A random guest would sometimes pop in to say their piece on a certain Sonic Game,Or someone to fill in for Luke to talk about other games and subjects with Roger.
* {{The Professor}}: Both Roger & Luke act as Professors in the Studies of {{Sonic the Hedgehog.}} As the main host, Roger gives us the most information and his own views on the franchise.
* {{Trial and Error Gameplay}}: Discussed by Luke, Roger & Theory when they were talking about {{Sonic Unleashed}}’s level design.
* {{Unusually Uninteresting Sight}}: Throughout the series, the Royal Institute suddenly burns down, gets run over by Tanks and then is rebuilt as Royal Institute 2.0, which neither Roger or Luke notice about.
* [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/YMMV/HomePage Your Milage May Vary]]: Luke, Roger and even the various Guests would discuss and share opinions and arguments on various games like {{Nintendo}} Vs. {{Sega}},{{Sonic Adventure 2}},[[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/VideoGame/SonicLostWorldSonic Lost World]] and the Storybook games.
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* {{Malicious Misnaming}}/{{In Universe Nickname}}: At one point Captain Theory called Luke ‘British Tails’. But Luke doesn’t mind as he is supposed to represent the Sonic fans who depict themselves as Sonic characters (I.E 'x the Hedgehog')
* {{Never Bareheaded}}: Outside of Dissected, you rarely see an episode with Luke, Roger & Cpt. Theory without their hats.
* {{Nice Hat}}: Both Roger and Luke, as well as Captain Theory wear very nice Top Hats to fit their classy look. Even Guest Speaker Frobman wore a [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RuleOfCool Fez.]]
* {{Not that kind of Doctor}}/{{Open Heart Dentistry}}: Frobman is probably this as he performs unprofessional surgery on Luke using a Dagger. Apparantly he is filling in for his brother..who’s a Dentist.
* {{Quintessential British Gentleman}}: Luke is basically this. The theme of Dissected is set in a charming stereotypical British setting with the Hosts & Guests dressed in early 1900 outfits.
* {{Real Life writes the plot}}: When something Sonic related is announced, you’ll know a Dissected video will shortly follow.
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* {{Catapult nightmare}}: In episode 8, Roger dreams about the announcement of [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/VideoGame/SonicLostWorld Sonic Lost World]] and woke up reacting to Lost Hex.

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* {{Catapult nightmare}}: Nightmare}}: In episode 8, Roger dreams about the announcement of [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/VideoGame/SonicLostWorld Sonic Lost World]] and woke up reacting to Lost Hex.



* {{Hatedom}}: Roger’s ‘Merry little hat club’ on a Sonic Stadium forum that became more respective of the series once Roger explained himself on the thread. There are also people who dislike Roger’s criticisms and feel that he is just nitpicking on the games.

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* {{Hatedom}}: {{Hatedom}}/{{Broken Base}}: Roger’s ‘Merry little hat club’ on a Sonic Stadium forum that became more respective of the series once Roger explained himself on the thread. There are also people who dislike Roger’s criticisms and feel that he is just nitpicking on the games.
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* {{Humiliation Conga}}: In the Episode, ‘Unleashed again’[[spoiler:Luke gets struck by lightning and by the end of the episode an Ambulance falls on him.]]

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* {{Humiliation Conga}}: In the Episode, ‘Unleashed again’[[spoiler:Luke again’ [[spoiler:Luke gets struck by lightning and by the end of the episode an Ambulance falls on him.]]
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* {{Hatedom}}: Roger’s ‘Merry little hat club’ on a {{Sonic Stadium}} Sonic Stadium forum that became more respective of the series once Roger explained himself on the thread. There are also people who dislike Roger’s criticisms and feel that he is just nitpicking on the games.

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* {{Anticlimax}}: Demonstrating the writing of Pontac & Graff In 'Pontac & Graff Bingo', Steph appears that she is about to Murder Roger then she dissapears and [[spoiler:Luke appears at the end with no explaination given.]]

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* {{Anticlimax}}: Demonstrating the writing of Pontac & Graff In 'Pontac & Graff Bingo', Steph appears that she is about to Murder Roger then she dissapears disappears and [[spoiler:Luke appears at the end with no explaination explanation given.]]




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* {{Civilized Animal}}: Luke The Fox.
* {{Dont Explain the Joke}}: Pointed out when discussing the humor of certain games. However Roger points out that some jokes do need some sort of explanation.
* {{Feeling their age}}: In the ‘Sonic is dead’ video. Luke & Roger compare {{Sonic Boom}} to the Old Age stage in life, where the characters just act like old people and would feel like Sonic & co are caring for old people in a home. This seems evident in the episode ‘Hedgehog Day’ where Eggman would experience the same day over and over and Knuckles experiencing back problems.
*{{Gentleman and a Scholar}}: Both Roger and Luke resemble very sophisticated Highbrow Gentleman..that like to talk about Sonic Games.
*{{Gentleman Snarker}}: Roger & Luke would sometimes do this to one another on occasion.
*{{Hatedom}}: Roger’s ‘Merry little hat club’ on a {{Sonic Stadium}} forum that became more respective of the series once Roger explained himself on the thread. There are also people who dislike Roger’s criticisms and feel that he is just nitpicking on the games.
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* {{Badass Beard}}: Roger has one which goes well with his ‘badass expression’ when talking about something epic related in a {{Sonic}} Game.
* {{Berserk Button}}: Luke nearly loses it in episode 2 over the cartoon sound effects used in {{Sonic Unleashed}}.
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* {{AlcoholHic}}: Luke becomes very drunk during the ‘Things..Dissected’ episode, but still manages to act like himself..apart from the swearing & vomiting.


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[[caption-width-right:350:Roger & Luke show you the deeper meanings of the Sonic games and how to better understand them]]



The series was launched in 2012 created and hosted by Roger Weide (of Sonic in Minutes, {{Kingdumb Hearts}} and I.M.P fame) and co-hosted by Luke the Fox (real name Luke Wholey), A British Sonic fancharacter who also voices in some of Roger’s animations. They also have A third guy, Captain Theory (voiced by Salacommander) who would sometimes pop in and explain a hypothesis on why certain things in Sonic work that way or why Sega/Sonic Team have done it.

Over the series they have discussed various games, its characters, had random guests that want to say their piece on certain Sonic Games and Roger has also done various Dissections such as {{Shenmue}} and {{Megaman}}.

The series can be found here: https://www.youtube.com/user/Rogerfromimp/videos

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The series was launched in 2012 2012, created and hosted by Roger Weide (of Sonic in Minutes, {{Kingdumb Hearts}} and I.M.P fame) and co-hosted by Luke the Fox (real name Luke Wholey), A British Sonic fancharacter who also voices in some of Roger’s animations. They also have A a third guy, Captain Theory (voiced by Salacommander) who would sometimes pop in and explain a hypothesis on why certain things in Sonic work that way or why Sega/Sonic Team have done it.

Over the series they have discussed various games, its characters, had random guests that want to say their piece on certain Sonic Games and Roger has also done various Dissections on games such as {{Shenmue}} and {{Megaman}}.

The series can be found here: https://www.[[https://www.youtube.com/user/Rogerfromimp/videos
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* {{Accidental Misnaming}}: Luke once called Captain Theory ‘Captain H’ due to the H emblem on his chest, not aware that it stands for Hypothesis, another word for Theory.
* {{Alternate character Interpretation}}: Roger & Luke compare & contrast the various versions of Sonic & friends and how their personalities keep changing in each game.

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Sonic Dissected is a web series that takes an analytic look at the Sonic the Hedgehog franchise, be it the games, animations or anything Sonic related that gets announced, (like Sonic Boom) and discusses them about its narrative, it’s flaws, its characters and gameplay and how we can improve them and see these games and characters from another point of view. The Sonic series can be quite controversial and are not there to just criticize the games or its audience. They just want to give you a better and deeper understanding of the games from a narrative perspective as well as to inform and educate you about them.

The series was launched in 2012 created and hosted by Roger Weide (of Sonic in Minutes, Kingdumb Hearts and I.M.P fame) and co-hosted by Luke the Fox (real name Luke Wholey), British Sonic fancharacter who also voices in some of Roger’s animations. They also have A third guy, Captain Theory (voiced by Salacommander) who would sometimes pop in and explain a hypothesis on why certain things in Sonic work that way or why Sega/Sonic Team have done it.

Over the series they have discussed various games, its characters, had random guests that want to say their peice on certain Sonic Games and Roger has also done various Dissections such as Shenmue and Megaman.

The series can be found here: https://www.youtube.com/user/Rogerfromimp/videos

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Sonic Dissected is a web series that takes an analytic look at the Sonic {{Sonic the Hedgehog Hedgehog}} franchise, be it the games, animations or anything Sonic related that gets announced, (like Sonic Boom) {{Sonic Boom}}) and discusses them about its narrative, it’s flaws, its characters and gameplay and how we can improve them and see these games and characters from another point of view. The Sonic series can be quite controversial and are not there to just criticize the games or its audience. They just want to give you a better and deeper understanding of the games from a narrative perspective as well as to inform and educate you about them.

The series was launched in 2012 created and hosted by Roger Weide (of Sonic in Minutes, Kingdumb Hearts {{Kingdumb Hearts}} and I.M.P fame) and co-hosted by Luke the Fox (real name Luke Wholey), A British Sonic fancharacter who also voices in some of Roger’s animations. They also have A third guy, Captain Theory (voiced by Salacommander) who would sometimes pop in and explain a hypothesis on why certain things in Sonic work that way or why Sega/Sonic Team have done it.

Over the series they have discussed various games, its characters, had random guests that want to say their peice piece on certain Sonic Games and Roger has also done various Dissections such as Shenmue {{Shenmue}} and Megaman.{{Megaman}}.

The series can be found here: https://www.youtube.com/user/Rogerfromimp/videoscom/user/Rogerfromimp/videos

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Sonic Dissected is a web series that takes an analytic look at the Sonic the Hedgehog franchise, be it the games, animations or anything Sonic related that gets announced, (like Sonic Boom) and discusses them about its narrative, it’s flaws, its characters and gameplay and how we can improve them and see these games and characters from another point of view. The Sonic series can be quite controversial and are not there to just criticize the games or its audience. They just want to give you a better and deeper understanding of the games from a narrative perspective as well as to inform and educate you about them.

The series was launched in 2012 created and hosted by Roger Weide (of Sonic in Minutes, Kingdumb Hearts and I.M.P fame) and co-hosted by Luke the Fox (real name Luke Wholey), British Sonic fancharacter who also voices in some of Roger’s animations. They also have A third guy, Captain Theory (voiced by Salacommander) who would sometimes pop in and explain a hypothesis on why certain things in Sonic work that way or why Sega/Sonic Team have done it.

Over the series they have discussed various games, its characters, had random guests that want to say their peice on certain Sonic Games and Roger has also done various Dissections such as Shenmue and Megaman.

The series can be found here: https://www.youtube.com/user/Rogerfromimp/videos

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