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Stardestroyer.net is a ''Franchise/StarWars'' vs ''Franchise/StarTrek'' website started in 1998 by a Canadian Engineer named Michael Wong. Compares the strengths and weaknesses of both franchises, examining them with real science. The site has been inactive for some time, but the forum is still active. Also the source of the Trek/Wars fic ''Fanfic/{{Conquest}}''.

* AlternateCharacterInterpretation[[invoked]]: Wong argues that the Federation is actually an oppressively conformist, communist {{dystopia}} [[http://www.stardestroyer.net/Empire/Essays/Trek-Marxism.html]].
* CausticCritic: Many of them. Most are cyber bullies, the masquerades as a website dedicated to the Star Destroyer, In reality, it is a haven for cyber bullies to harass people who don't agree with them.

* ParentalMarriageVeto: Happened to the Site Owner. Part of the reason he dislikes religion.

* CausticCritic: Many of them.
* CavemenVsAstronautsDebate[=/=]HypotheticalFightDebate: Who would win in a fight between the Enterprise and a Star Destroyer? That would be the Enterprise of course.

* ClusterFBomb: Site rules allow profanity, and many forumgoers are all too happy to take full advantage. What's not allowed is untruthfulness or making claims without backing them up.

* LogicalFallacies: The main site has an essay on several of the most common ones, and the forum has a rule against using them.

* CavemenVsAstronautsDebate[=/=]HypotheticalFightDebate: Who would win in a fight between the Enterprise and a Star Destroyer? That would be the Stardestroyer of course.

* {{Deconstruction}}: They poke holes in the Federation utopia idea, and Mike Wong writes at length about how the small towns he's lived in are not the idyllic paradises the movies portray them as.

** [[invoked]] The main site is centered around the question of who would win if the [[Franchise/StarTrek United Federation of Planets]] and the [[Franchise/StarWars Galactic Empire]] went to war. TheEmpire comes out on top due to drastic advantages in canonical firepower, numbers, and industrial capacity, as well as a distinct lack of morals and a better selection of ground weapons[[note]]{{the Federation}} has been seen using exactly ''one'' armed ground vehicle, whereas the Empire has a full-on StandardSciFiArmy[[/note]].
*** In the interest of full disclosure, some forum members dispute the firepower argument (on grounds that [[SciFiWritersHaveNoSenseOfScale the highest level of canon has never demonstrated the numbers given in the Incredible Cross-Sections books]]). They still generally agree that the Empire's numerical and industrial lead is insurmountable.

A ''Franchise/StarWars'' vs ''Franchise/StarTrek'' website started in 1998 by a Canadian Engineer named Michael Wong. Compares the strengths and weaknesses of both franchises, examining them with real science. The site has been inactive for some time, but the forum is still active. Also the source of the Trek/Wars fic ''Fanfic/{{Conquest}}''.

* CavemenVsAstronautsDebate: Who would win in a fight between the Enterprise and a Star Destroyer? That would be the Stardestroyer of course.

** Meanwhile, the forums debate all manner of other X versus Y matchups (everything from the [[TabletopGame/{{Warhammer40000}} Imperium of Man]] versus the [[NewJediOrder Yuuzhan Vong]][[note]]winner: Imperium, due to being singularly well-equipped to defeat the Yuuzhan Vong's primary strategies[[/note]] to Series/{{Airwolf}} versus the [[Film/{{Transformers}} Bayformers]][[note]]winner: Transformers, due to advantages in demonstrated durability and the fact that there's more than one of them[[/note]]).

* CavemenVsAstronautsDebate: Who would win in a fight between the Enterprise and a Star Destroyer? That would be the Stardestroyer of course [[note]] Assuming, as Stardestroyer.net does, that you tie the Federations's hands behind it's back by limiting Trek to only what is shown "on screen", ignore important facts like [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYENq1cp27E faster than light drives that can be used tactially]] (Star Wars ships can travel further, faster, but cannot maneuver at translight speeds in combat like Trek ships can), assume that transporters [[PhlebotinumBreakdown NEVER work, ever,]] and allow Star Wars to use every single fanfic ever written as canon, and make ridiculous assertions from the Star Wars technical manuals about the firepower of Star Wars weapons, like every shot from a "Small" turbolaser conveying the same energy as millions of atomic bombs. [[/note]]

** [[invoked]] The main site is centered around the question of who would win if the [[Franchise/StarTrek United Federation of Planets]] and the [[Franchise/StarWars Galactic Empire]] went to war. TheEmpire comes out on top due to drastic advantages in canonical [[note]] but see "note" above about what stardestroyer.net "allows" as canon in the debate. Trek gets no tech manuals or even prose novels by Gene Roddenberry, but if a fanfic says wookies can fart antimatter, they can, so long as George Lucas hasn't personally come out and said they can't [[/note]] firepower, numbers, and industrial capacity, as well as a distinct lack of morals[[note]]the Empire has no qualms about using chemical weapons or bombarding civilian populations[[/note]] and a better selection of ground weapons[[note]]{{the Federation}} has been seen using exactly ''one'' armed ground vehicle, whereas the Empire has a full-on StandardSciFiArmy[[/note]].

* CavemenVsAstronautsDebate: Who would win in a fight between the Enterprise and a Star Destroyer? That would be the Stardestroyer of course [[note]] Assuming, as Stardestroyer.net does, that you tie the Federations's hands behind it's back by limiting Trek to only what is shown "on screen", ignore important facts like faster than light drives that can be used tactially (Star Wars ships can travel further, faster, but cannot maneuver at translight speeds in combat like Trek ships can), assume that transporters [[PhlebotinumBreakdown NEVER work, ever,]] and allow Star Wars to use every single fanfic ever written as canon, and make ridiculous assertions from the Star Wars technical manuals about the firepower of Star Wars weapons, like every shot from a "Small" turbolaser conveying the same energy as millions of atomic bombs. [[/note]]

* CavemenVsAstronautsDebate: Who would win in a fight between the Enterprise and a Star Destroyer? That would be the Stardestroyer of course [[note]] Assuming, as Stardestroyer.net does, that you tie the Federations's hands behind it's back by limiting Trek to only what is shown "on screen", ignore important facts like faster than light drives that can be used tactially (Star Wars ships can travel further, faster, but cannot maneuver at translight speeds in combat like Trek ships can) and allow Star Wars to use every single fanfic ever written as canon, and make ridiculous assertions from the Star Wars technical manuals about the firepower of Star Wars weapons, like every shot from a "Small" turbolaser conveying the same energy as millions of atomic bombs. [[/note]]

** [[invoked]] The main site is centered around the question of who would win if the [[Franchise/StarTrek United Federation of Planets]] and the [[Franchise/StarWars Galactic Empire]] went to war. TheEmpire comes out on top due to drastic advantages in canonical firepower, numbers, and industrial capacity, as well as a distinct lack of morals[[note]]the Empire has no qualms about using chemical weapons or bombarding civilian populations[[/note]] and a better selection of ground weapons[[note]]{{the Federation}} has been seen using exactly ''one'' armed ground vehicle, whereas the Empire has a full-on StandardSciFiArmy[[/note]].

* CavemenVsAstronautsDebate: Who would win in a fight between the Enterprise and a Star Destroyer? That would be the Stardestroyer of course [[note]] Assuming, as Stardestroyer.net does, that you tie the Federations's hands behind it's back by limiting Trek to only what is shown "on screen", and allow Star Wars to use every single fanfic ever written as canon, and make ridiculous assertions from the Star Wars technical manuals about the firepower of Star Wars weapons, like every shot from a "Small" turbolaser conveying the same energy as millions of atomic bombs. [[/note]]

* CavemenVsAstronautsDebate: Who would win in a fight between the Enterprise and a Star Destroyer? That would be the Stardestroyer of course [[note]] Assuming, as Stardestroyer.net coes, that you tie the Federations's hands behind it's back by limiting Trek to only what is shown "on screen", and allow Star Wars to use every single fanfic ever written as canon, and make ridiculous assertions from the Star Wars technical manuals about the firepower of Star Wars weapons, like every shot from a "Small" turbolaser conveying the same energy as millions of atomic bombs. [[/note]]

* CavemenVsAstronautsDebate: Who would win in a fight between the Enterprise and a Star Destroyer? That would be the Stardestroyer of course

A ''Franchise/StarWars'' vs ''Franchise/StarTrek'' website started in 1998 by a Canadian Engineer named Michael Wong. Compares the strengths and weaknesses of both franchises, examining them with real science. The site has been inactive for some time, but the forum is still active. Also the source of the Trek/Wars FusionFic ''Fanfic/{{Conquest}}''.

* UltimateShowdownOfUltimateDestiny: [[invoked]] The main site is centered around the question of who would win if the [[Franchise/StarTrek United Federation of Planets]] and the [[Franchise/StarWars Galactic Empire]] went to war. TheEmpire comes out on top due to drastic advantages in canonical firepower, numbers, and industrial capacity, as well as a distinct lack of morals[[note]]the Empire has no qualms about using chemical weapons or bombarding civilian populations[[/note]] and a better selection of ground weapons[[note]]{{the Federation}} has been seen using exactly ''one'' armed ground vehicle, whereas the Empire has a full-on StandardSciFiArmy[[/note]].
** In the interest of full disclosure, some forum members dispute the firepower argument (on grounds that [[SciFiWritersHaveNoSenseOfScale the highest level of canon has never demonstrated the numbers given in the Incredible Cross-Sections books]]). They still generally agree that the Empire's numerical and industrial lead is insurmountable.

A ''StarWars'' vs ''Franchise/StarTrek'' website started in 1998 by a Canadian Engineer named Michael Wong. Compares the strengths and weaknesses of both franchises, examining them with real science. The site has been inactive for some time, but the forum is still active.

* CloudCuckooLander: Shroom Man777, label: FUCKIN' DICK STABBER. Location: Bleeding breasts and stabbing dicks since 2003. Alternates between making perfect (if frenzied) sense and utter lunacy with little to no middle ground.

* ArchEnemy: For a while, it had something like this going on with Spacebattles.com

* UltimateShowdownOfUltimateDestiny: [[invoked]] The main site is centered around the question of who would win if the [[Franchise/StarTrek United Federation of Planets]] and the [[Franchise/StarWars Galactic Empire]] went to war. TheEmpire comes out on top due to drastic advantages in canonical firepower, numbers, and industrial capacity, as well as a distinct lack of morals[[hottip:*:the Empire has no qualms about using chemical weapons or bombarding civilian populations]] and a better selection of ground weapons[[hottip:*:{{the Federation}} has been seen using exactly ''one'' armed ground vehicle, whereas the Empire has a full-on StandardSciFiArmy]].

** Meanwhile, the forums debate all manner of other X versus Y matchups (everything from the [[TabletopGame/{{Warhammer40000}} Imperium of Man]] versus the [[NewJediOrder Yuuzhan Vong]][[hottip:*:winner: Imperium, due to being singularly well-equipped to defeat the Yuuzhan Vong's primary strategies]] to {{Airwolf}} versus the [[Film/{{Transformers}} Bayformers]][[hottip:*:winner: Transformers, due to advantages in demonstrated durability and the fact that there's more than one of them]]).

* AlternateCharacterInterpretation[[invoked]]: Wong argues that the Federation is actually an oppressively conformist, communist [[http://www.stardestroyer.net/Empire/Essays/Trek-Marxism.html {{dystopia}}]].

* AlternateCharacterInterpretation[[invoked]]: Wong argues that the Federation is actually an oppressively conformist, communist [[{{dystopia}} http://www.stardestroyer.net/Empire/Essays/Trek-Marxism.html]].

* AlternateCharacterInterpretation[[invoked]]: Wong argues that the Federation is actually an oppressively conformist, communist {{dystopia}}.

* NoTrueScotsman: Just look at some of the entries on this page.

A ''StarWars'' vs ''StarTrek'' website started in 1998 by a Canadian Engineer named Michael Wong. Compares the strengths and weaknesses of both franchises, examining them with real science. The site has been inactive for some time, but the forum is still active.

** YourMileageMayVary: EXTREME example, both in Star Wars vs Star Trek and within the Star Wars fan community. Their extreme flaming practices (for example, they have a hidden forum dedicated to flaming people for "stupidity") and public banning forum, as well as the practice of posting the emails of banned users has prompted a lot of drama, to the point of multiple forum invasions.

* HeroicSociopath: MKSheppard, aka, the Nukesexual.