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* PuttingOnTheReich: The US Army has adopted many of the traditions and aesthetics of their allies the German Empire, most notably [[NiceHat the iconic]] iconic [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pickelhaube Pickelhaube.]]
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''Forgotten No More: A Presidential TL'' is an election game on the forum Website/AlternateHistoryDotCom, originally created by Osk and expanded with the help of many people. As the name implies, history is retold through the lens of the US Presidency - although with a twist: None of the Presidents may have run for the office in real life, no matter how notable. So not only are George Washington or Abraham Lincoln barred from the White House, but also people like Al Gore, Eugene Debs, or [[DeweyDefeatsTruman Thomas Dewey.]] This has created a colorful and often [[DysfunctionJunction dysfunctional]] cast of Presidents.

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''Forgotten No More: A Presidential TL'' is an election game on the forum Website/AlternateHistoryDotCom, originally created by Osk and expanded with the help of many people. As the name implies, history is retold through the lens of the US Presidency - although with a twist: None of the Presidents may have run for the office in real life, no matter how notable. So not only are George Washington or Abraham Lincoln barred from the White House, but also people like Al Gore, Eugene Debs, or [[DeweyDefeatsTruman Thomas Dewey.]] Dewey. This has created a colorful and often [[DysfunctionJunction dysfunctional]] cast of Presidents.
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** There are a number of other minor parties who are notably more powerful than real American third parties. They include the [[DirtyCommunists Soqu]][[ChummyCommies alists,]] the [[SlaveryIsASpecialKindOfEvil Consti]][[StillFightingTheCivilWar tution]] [[RenegadeSplinterFaction Party,]] and the [[ExactlyWhatitSaysOnTheTin Prohibition Party.]] As of the turn of the 20th Century, the SLP has fallen apart due to suppression on the part of the Custer administration, and they have mostly been lapped up by the WP, while the Prohibition movement fizzled during the war and has not resurged since.

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** There are a number of other minor parties who are notably more powerful than real American third parties. They include the [[DirtyCommunists Soqu]][[ChummyCommies alists,]] the [[SlaveryIsASpecialKindOfEvil Consti]][[StillFightingTheCivilWar tution]] [[RenegadeSplinterFaction Party,]] and the [[ExactlyWhatitSaysOnTheTin Prohibition Party.]] As of the turn of the 20th Century, the SLP has fallen apart due to suppression on the part of the Custer administration, and they have mostly been lapped up by the WP, while the Prohibition movement fizzled during the war and has not resurged since. As of 1917, this may be different - the CP beat the Federalists in both the electoral and popular vote, creating a potential upset in the American political scene.
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** The [[GoodShepherd Work]][[TheFundamentalist ers']] [[CapitalismIsBad Party]] is an unusual animal, fusing two ideologies (far-left populism/democratic socialism and Christian democracy) into a whole that has embodied the American anti-elite trend up until the "present day" (1900).

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** The [[GoodShepherd Work]][[TheFundamentalist ers']] [[CapitalismIsBad Party]] is an unusual animal, fusing two ideologies (far-left populism/democratic socialism and Christian democracy) into a whole that has embodied the American anti-elite trend up until the "present day" (1900).day." The advent of the 20th Century saw a dramatic shift towards secularism and "industrial" socialism, due in part to the collapse of Soqualist Labor, the New Gloom of the Miles Presidency, and the victory of Jewish Andy Rabinovich in 1912.
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''Forgotten No More: A Presidential TL'' is an election game on the forum AlternateHistoryDotCom, originally created by Osk and expanded with the help of many people. As the name implies, history is retold through the lens of the US Presidency - although with a twist: None of the Presidents may have run for the office in real life, no matter how notable. So not only are George Washington or Abraham Lincoln barred from the White House, but also people like Al Gore, Eugene Debs, or [[DeweyDefeatsTruman Thomas Dewey.]] This has created a colorful and often [[DysfunctionJunction dysfunctional]] cast of Presidents.

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''Forgotten No More: A Presidential TL'' is an election game on the forum AlternateHistoryDotCom, Website/AlternateHistoryDotCom, originally created by Osk and expanded with the help of many people. As the name implies, history is retold through the lens of the US Presidency - although with a twist: None of the Presidents may have run for the office in real life, no matter how notable. So not only are George Washington or Abraham Lincoln barred from the White House, but also people like Al Gore, Eugene Debs, or [[DeweyDefeatsTruman Thomas Dewey.]] This has created a colorful and often [[DysfunctionJunction dysfunctional]] cast of Presidents.
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* DemocracyIsFlawed: Hoo boy. The most recent President openly and brazenly rigged the Electoral College in the face of a landslide defeat to grab an unprecedented third term, sparking a chain of events that led to his eventual humiliation, [[HauledBeforeASenateSubcommittee impeachment,]] and [[BodyguardBetrayal death.]]

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* DemocracyIsFlawed: Hoo boy. The most recent last President of the 19th Century openly and brazenly rigged the Electoral College in the face of a landslide defeat to grab an unprecedented third term, sparking a chain of events that led to his eventual humiliation, [[HauledBeforeASenateSubcommittee impeachment,]] and [[BodyguardBetrayal death.]]



* ExpandedStatesOfAmerica: While it [[MexicoCalledTheyWantTexasBack doesn't have southern California,]] Texas, or much of the Louisiana Purchase, as of 1900 the US nevertheless controls all of modern-day Canada, Belize, and parts of Central America.

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* ExpandedStatesOfAmerica: While it [[MexicoCalledTheyWantTexasBack doesn't have southern California,]] Texas, California, Texas,]] or much of the Louisiana Purchase, as of 1900 the US nevertheless controls all of modern-day Canada, Belize, and parts of Central America.



** There are a number of other minor parties who are notably more powerful than real American third parties. They include the [[DirtyCommunists Soqu]][[ChummyCommies alists,]] the [[SlaveryIsASpecialKindOfEvil Consti]][[StillFightingTheCivilWar tution]] [[RenegadeSplinterFaction Party,]] and the [[ExactlyWhatitSaysOnTheTin Prohibition Party.]] As of the turn of the 20th Century, the SLP has fallen apart due to suppression on the part of the Custer administration, and they have mostly been lapped up by the WP.
* HistoricalVillainUpgrade: Libby Custer [[spoiler: assassinates Washington Gladden, Worker's Party Presidential nominee and the likely victor of the 1896 election, to ensure her husband's third term.]]

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** There are a number of other minor parties who are notably more powerful than real American third parties. They include the [[DirtyCommunists Soqu]][[ChummyCommies alists,]] the [[SlaveryIsASpecialKindOfEvil Consti]][[StillFightingTheCivilWar tution]] [[RenegadeSplinterFaction Party,]] and the [[ExactlyWhatitSaysOnTheTin Prohibition Party.]] As of the turn of the 20th Century, the SLP has fallen apart due to suppression on the part of the Custer administration, and they have mostly been lapped up by the WP.
WP, while the Prohibition movement fizzled during the war and has not resurged since.
* HistoricalVillainUpgrade: Libby Custer [[spoiler: assassinates Washington Gladden, Worker's Party Presidential nominee and the likely victor of the 1896 election, to ensure her husband's third term.]]
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* DifferentStatesofAmerica: Radically so.

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* DifferentStatesofAmerica: DifferentStatesOfAmerica: Radically so.
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* WeHardlyKnewYe: President Frederick T. Frelinghuysen.

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* WeHardlyKnewYe: President Presidents Frederick T. Frelinghuysen.Frelinghuysen, Fernando Wood, and Arthur Pue Gorman.
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** There are a number of other minor parties who are notably more powerful than real American third parties. They include the [[DirtyCommunists Soqu]][[ChummyCommies alists,]] the [[SlaveryIsASpecialKindOfEvil Consti]][[StillFightingTheCivilWar tution]] [[RenegadeSplinterFaction Party,]] and the [[ExactlyWhatitSaysOnTheTin Prohibition Party.]]

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** There are a number of other minor parties who are notably more powerful than real American third parties. They include the [[DirtyCommunists Soqu]][[ChummyCommies alists,]] the [[SlaveryIsASpecialKindOfEvil Consti]][[StillFightingTheCivilWar tution]] [[RenegadeSplinterFaction Party,]] and the [[ExactlyWhatitSaysOnTheTin Prohibition Party.]]]] As of the turn of the 20th Century, the SLP has fallen apart due to suppression on the part of the Custer administration, and they have mostly been lapped up by the WP.
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* VoteEarlyVoteOften: A distressingly common occurrence. Usually a staple of the Federalists, although the Workers get in on it too.
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** Henry B. Whipple, the first Workers president, is widely considered the epitome of [[NiceGuy President Personable.]] He was excellent at building bridges, genuinely a pleasant and pious man, and oversaw an economic boom.

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* DifferentStatesofAmerica: Radically so.
* ExpandedStatesOfAmerica: While it [[MexicoCalledTheyWantTexasBack doesn't have southern California,]] Texas, or much of the Louisiana Purchase, as of 1900 the US nevertheless controls all of modern-day Canada, Belize, and parts of Central America.



* HistoricalVillainUpgrade: Libby Custer [[spolier: assassinates Washington Gladden, Worker's Party Presidential nominee and the likely victor of the 1896 election, to ensure her husband's third term.]]

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* HistoricalVillainUpgrade: Libby Custer [[spolier: [[spoiler: assassinates Washington Gladden, Worker's Party Presidential nominee and the likely victor of the 1896 election, to ensure her husband's third term.]]
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** The [[CorruptPolitician Fed]][[EnlightenedSelfInterest era]]{{Realpolitik lists}} are a [[SubvertedTrope subversion;]] they [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federalist_Party actually existed in real life from 1789 to 1824,]] before they were mostly supplanted by the Democratic-Republicans. In this world, however, not only did they survive, but they have evolved enough over the years to be considered this trope in effect. They are often referred to as the "Natural Party of Government," due to their longevity, electoral success, and reputation for centrist policies. [[CorruptPolitician The fact that their success is often due to less-than-honest means is conveniently lost on their leadership.]]

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** The [[CorruptPolitician Fed]][[EnlightenedSelfInterest era]]{{Realpolitik lists}} era]][[{{Realpolitik}} lists]] are a [[SubvertedTrope subversion;]] they [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federalist_Party actually existed in real life from 1789 to 1824,]] before they were mostly supplanted by the Democratic-Republicans. In this world, however, not only did they survive, but they have evolved enough over the years to be considered this trope in effect. They are often referred to as the "Natural Party of Government," due to their longevity, electoral success, and reputation for centrist policies. [[CorruptPolitician The fact that their success is often due to less-than-honest means is conveniently lost on their leadership.]]



** The now-defunct American Party was a "radical liberal" party advocating small government and general libertarian policies. They got a few people into the White House before collapsing in the late 1800s in favor of the Workers. They teetered on the edge of oblivion as the Liberal Reform Party before finally succumbing in the 1880s, their base poached by both major parties and the Soqualists.

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** The now-defunct [[LibertyOverProsperity American Party Party]] was a "radical liberal" party advocating small government and general libertarian policies. They got a few people into the White House before collapsing in the late 1800s in favor of the Workers. They teetered on the edge of oblivion as the Liberal Reform Party before finally succumbing in the 1880s, their base poached by both major parties and the Soqualists.



* HistoricalVillainUpgrade: Libby Custer [[spolier: assassinates Washington Gladden, Worker's Party Presidential nominee and the likely victor of the 1896 election.]]

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* HistoricalVillainUpgrade: Libby Custer [[spolier: assassinates Washington Gladden, Worker's Party Presidential nominee and the likely victor of the 1896 election.election, to ensure her husband's third term.]]



* OurPresidentsAreDifferent: Considering that the
** George Custer (depending on your viewpoint of him) could be considered PresidentEvil, President Corrupt, and/or even President Lunatic. Those with a more sympathetic view of him see him as [[ActionPolitician President Action]] and President Iron, for his three-term leadership through the Great War against Britain. Without a doubt, he epitomizes {{Jerkass President Jerkass.}}

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* OurPresidentsAreDifferent: Considering that the
the timeline is ''based'' on the US Presidency, this is a given.
** George Custer (depending on your viewpoint of him) could be considered PresidentEvil, President Corrupt, and/or even President Lunatic. Those with a more sympathetic view of him see him as [[ActionPolitician President Action]] and President Iron, for his three-term leadership through the Great War against Britain. Without a doubt, he epitomizes {{Jerkass [[{{Jerkass}} President Jerkass.}}]]

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->''"Heh--Don't delude yourself. This war is far too big for any one man, battle, or campaign to bring to an end."''
-->-- '''Marshal Vostrikov'''

''Forgotten No More: A Presidential TL'' is an election game on the forum AlternateHistoryDotCom, originally created by Osk and expanded with the help of many people.

Forgotten No More has grown since May 2015 to become one of the more notable election games on Ah.com's Shared Worlds forum, with the timeline having just hit the year 1900 after a rather ''interesting'' three-term presidency.

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->''"Heh--Don't delude yourself. This war is far too big for any one man, battle, or campaign to bring to an end.->''"History will remember what I did here."''
-->-- '''Marshal Vostrikov'''

'''[[RichardNixonTheUsedCarSalesman President]] [[PresidentEvil George A]][[ActionPolitician . Custer]]'''

''Forgotten No More: A Presidential TL'' is an election game on the forum AlternateHistoryDotCom, originally created by Osk and expanded with the help of many people. \n\n As the name implies, history is retold through the lens of the US Presidency - although with a twist: None of the Presidents may have run for the office in real life, no matter how notable. So not only are George Washington or Abraham Lincoln barred from the White House, but also people like Al Gore, Eugene Debs, or [[DeweyDefeatsTruman Thomas Dewey.]] This has created a colorful and often [[DysfunctionJunction dysfunctional]] cast of Presidents.

Forgotten No More has grown since May 2015 to become one of the more notable election games on Ah.com's Shared Worlds forum, with the timeline having just hit the year 1900 after a rather ''interesting'' three-term presidency. \n The main thread can be found [[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/forgotten-no-more-an-ode-to-john-main-thread.353288/ here;]] as it is in the Shared Worlds subforum, you require an account to view it. However, there is a thread of only the main updates [[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/forgotten-no-more-an-american-presidential-tl.355964/ here,]] which can be viewed without an account. Most of the player-created content is in the main thread, unfortunately, as are the elections that actually push the history forward.



* BodyguardBetrayal: [[PlayingWith Played with,]] as the President in question had been impeached and accused of assassinating his political rival; the [[PraetorianGuard Presidential Guard]] [[MurderByMistake accidentally assassinate Custer in the Oval Office while trying to arrest him.]]
* DemocracyIsFlawed: Hoo boy. The most recent President openly and brazenly rigged the Electoral College in the face of a landslide defeat to grab an unprecedented third term, sparking a chain of events that led to his eventual humiliation, [[HauledBeforeASenateSubcommittee impeachment,]] and [[BodyguardBetrayal death.]]
* FictionalPoliticalParty: Of course, given the nature of the game:
** The [[CorruptPolitician Fed]][[EnlightenedSelfInterest era]]{{Realpolitik lists}} are a [[SubvertedTrope subversion;]] they [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federalist_Party actually existed in real life from 1789 to 1824,]] before they were mostly supplanted by the Democratic-Republicans. In this world, however, not only did they survive, but they have evolved enough over the years to be considered this trope in effect. They are often referred to as the "Natural Party of Government," due to their longevity, electoral success, and reputation for centrist policies. [[CorruptPolitician The fact that their success is often due to less-than-honest means is conveniently lost on their leadership.]]
** The [[GoodShepherd Work]][[TheFundamentalist ers']] [[CapitalismIsBad Party]] is an unusual animal, fusing two ideologies (far-left populism/democratic socialism and Christian democracy) into a whole that has embodied the American anti-elite trend up until the "present day" (1900).
** The now-defunct American Party was a "radical liberal" party advocating small government and general libertarian policies. They got a few people into the White House before collapsing in the late 1800s in favor of the Workers. They teetered on the edge of oblivion as the Liberal Reform Party before finally succumbing in the 1880s, their base poached by both major parties and the Soqualists.
** There are a number of other minor parties who are notably more powerful than real American third parties. They include the [[DirtyCommunists Soqu]][[ChummyCommies alists,]] the [[SlaveryIsASpecialKindOfEvil Consti]][[StillFightingTheCivilWar tution]] [[RenegadeSplinterFaction Party,]] and the [[ExactlyWhatitSaysOnTheTin Prohibition Party.]]
* HistoricalVillainUpgrade: Libby Custer [[spolier: assassinates Washington Gladden, Worker's Party Presidential nominee and the likely victor of the 1896 election.]]
* LandslideElection: Notably [[AvertedTrope averted]] for the most part; very few Presidents even win a majority of the popular vote, and several elections have gone to Congress.



** George Custer (depending on your viewpoint of him) could be considered PresidentEvil, President Corrupt, and/or even President Lunatic. Those with a more sympathetic view of him see him as [[ActionPolitician President Action]] and President Iron, for his three-term leadership through the Great War against Britain. Without a doubt, he epitomizes [[Jerkass President Jerkass.]]

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** George Custer (depending on your viewpoint of him) could be considered PresidentEvil, President Corrupt, and/or even President Lunatic. Those with a more sympathetic view of him see him as [[ActionPolitician President Action]] and President Iron, for his three-term leadership through the Great War against Britain. Without a doubt, he epitomizes [[Jerkass {{Jerkass President Jerkass.]]}}
** Poor Frederick Frelinghuysen only occupied the White House for a single year before he became President Target, assassinated by a man he'd passed over for promotion.
** Artemas Ward, the first President, was an early version of President Focus Group - he spent much of his time trying to hold together the squabbling young country.
* PraetorianGuard: The Presidential Guard, established as both bodyguard and garrison for the District of Columbia.
* PuttingOnTheReich: The US Army has adopted many of the traditions and aesthetics of their allies the German Empire, most notably [[NiceHat the iconic]] [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pickelhaube Pickelhaube.]]
* WeHardlyKnewYe: President Frederick T. Frelinghuysen.
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->''"Heh--Don't delude yourself. This war is far too big for any one man, battle, or campaign to bring to an end."''
-->-- '''Marshal Vostrikov'''

''Forgotten No More: A Presidential TL'' is an election game on the forum AlternateHistoryDotCom, originally created by Osk and expanded with the help of many people.

Forgotten No More has grown since May 2015 to become one of the more notable election games on Ah.com's Shared Worlds forum, with the timeline having just hit the year 1900 after a rather ''interesting'' three-term presidency.

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This work provides examples of:
* OurPresidentsAreDifferent: Considering that the
** George Custer (depending on your viewpoint of him) could be considered PresidentEvil, President Corrupt, and/or even President Lunatic. Those with a more sympathetic view of him see him as [[ActionPolitician President Action]] and President Iron, for his three-term leadership through the Great War against Britain. Without a doubt, he epitomizes [[Jerkass President Jerkass.]]

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